Hey, I've done extensive searching on Google and these forums, something that is always left out is ABOUT GLUE.
I had a broken Nexus S screen and I changed my screen on the phone with a new one bought on eBay, the new screen works flawlessly but the OEM screen has a sort of adhesive tape that would make it adhere to the phone frame. And usually, all instructions for removing the screen talks about using some kind of a heat gun to make the glue loose.
Well the problem is that the new screens don't have this adhesive, I was wondering if anyone can suggest a kind of glue that would do the job for attaching the new screen to the phone. Right now as it is, the screen is only held in place to my phone by the wire which connects it to the phone's circuitboard.
on a german forum i've read a users experience... he used regular "super-glue" that you can buy everywhere. the one that makes your fingers stick in like 4-5 seconds.
he put little spots of glue everywhere the screen touches the plastic and quickly pushed the screen onto it. seems legit if you ask me - the screen doesnt weigh that much after all.
http://www.repairsuniverse.com/adhesive-strips-for-touch-screens.html
murfi said:
on a german forum i've read a users experience... he used regular "super-glue" that you can buy everywhere. the one that makes your fingers stick in like 4-5 seconds.
he put little spots of glue everywhere the screen touches the plastic and quickly pushed the screen onto it. seems legit if you ask me - the screen doesnt weigh that much after all.
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That is ideally what I would really like to do instead of dealing with adhesive strips and then cutting the pieces to fit. I live in Germany now and the electronic store here said you can absolutely not use superglue and suggested instead that I used double-sided tape you buy from a photo store (Doppelseitiges, dünnes Klebeband).
What is the name of this 'super-glue' in Germany?
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That is ideally what I would really like to do instead of dealing with adhesive strips and then cutting the pieces to fit. I live in Germany now and the electronic store here said you can absolutely not use superglue and suggested instead that I used double-sided tape you buy from a photo store (Doppelseitiges, dünnes Klebeband).
What is the name of this 'super-glue' in Germany?
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What if it broke again? I doubt you would be able to remove it if super glue it's used
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What if it broke again? I doubt you would be able to remove it if super glue it's used
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You're probably right but if it breaks again I'll just write off the phone as fully depreciated in my head.
Was the replacement one of these:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/All-New-Out...773?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3a77cd07e5
or was it a full unit that go over $100?
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Has anyone seen a good take apart/repair guide for the Inspire4G. Just got digitizer replacement and cannot for the life of me figure out how to attach the ribbon cable without totally disassembling the phone. Hoping to avoid this.
If this is the wrong forum, please direct me to a better one rather than flaming me.
Thanks
Fairly certain that ifixit.com has a good teardown.
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Thanks for the tip, but I find nothing for the DesireHD/Inspire4G there other than a total disassemble for the HD that I've already seen, but really did not help me. I just need to change to touch screen. I appreciate the try though.
Got it apart. And kinda back together. Apparently it is not a good idea to reuse the double sided tape that holds the LCD to the motherboard and the digitizer to the LCD. At least the phone works. Now, must order some proper adhesive tape and redo the whole thing.... Took me about 6 hours for whole breakdown and rebuild. Doesn't really seem to fit back together all that well though. Maybe I'll videotape my next breakdown.
Couple of questions as my phone is in need of a new digitizer too.
Did you have any other adhesive tapes in the process?
What did you use to cut the tape that held the LCD together after you baked it?
Does the phone mostly feel the same now that you have it back together, or does it feel flimsy now?
I'm disappointed that it's this difficult to replace the digitizer.
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Couple of questions as my phone is in need of a new digitizer too.
Did you have any other adhesive tapes in the process?
What did you use to cut the tape that held the LCD together after you baked it?
Does the phone mostly feel the same now that you have it back together, or does it feel flimsy now?
I'm disappointed that it's this difficult to replace the digitizer.
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Just so you know, I was a TOTAL noob in phone deconstruction. That being said, the old adhesive seemed quite sticky after i took it apart so I just reused it. Mistake number one. Once it was back together, i notice it slowly opening up like an accordion. The tape wasn't holding and the LCD, digitizer assembly started to rise up. I have since ordered some adhesive tape from the place I got the digitizer from. Definitely get the tape.
I did not bake it as in the video (i assume you watched the same one I did). I used an old spark plug gauge tool thingie to just cut through the tape. It was still really sticky so after i struggled to insert the digitizer ribbon cable, I just reused it. Don't do this. Get new tape.
I did have some plain old scotch double sided tape. I used it in one spot. Lesson: Don't use this stuff. Get new tape.
Did I mention that I think you should get new tape? All in all, it was quite laborious. I went really slowly so as not to brick it. When it was done the phone worked, but like I said the LCD raised up after a couple of minutes. The adhesive was not working anymore. At least I have gained confidence for the next take-apart. I can't believe i GOTTA go alll the way back to total break down. Aaaarrrgh.
So something like this should do the trick?
http://www.harborfreight.com/32-piece-sae-metric-feeler-gauge-32214.html
Thanks for the heads up... Where exactly do you recommend putting the tape? Does it just go on the black edges of the digitizer, or does it actually go on the surface of the LCD? Sorry if that's a noob question, but I haven't gotten the glass off and I want to make sure I have enough adhesive tape from the Ebay Vendor. Did you have any issues with reusing the mylar?
Sorry for the 1000 questions, I really don't want to shell out off contract prices for another phone...
Mylars were all reusable if removed carefully. I photographed every step so I would know what to put back where. Still waiting for my tape from Repairs Universe. The biggest two culprits are:
1] Tape holding back of LCD to the silver chassis frame and
2] Tape holding SIM FPC to the main board.
You might also tape the PCB cover to the upper board, mine was loose after rebuild.
That I believe that is it for the major tape requirements. Of course the digitizer needs to be taped to the LCD. I'm curious, though, the tape framing the LCD holding the digitizer seemed to have some thickness to it. Almost like foam rubber, quite thin, but thicker than regular cellophane tape.
Good luck. Let me know if you have any tips after your attempt.
Got the tape. Retried to rebuild with new OEM tape. Same result. The phone when completed expands like an accordion. The digitizer/LCD assembly does not stay stick to whatever is under it. I know when to admit defeat. Looks like I'm shelling out 500 for another phone. At least I have spare parts!
yeah i was going to do my screen myself till i seen the tear down & then called afew places around here that does screen replacements and said NO we won't touch the Inspire, i spent the money and let HTC fix it. was worth it they replaced the whole shell not just the screen ... IE lcd / digitizer / Outer case that was scratched and dented... basically a new phone with the guts out of my phone
I attempted to do this and let me just say that I too now have spare parts. I purchased a phone off of ebay. I didn't realize the no contract price went up to around 500.00 I should have gone directly to HTC. Live and learn...
I will be in possession of an HTC Inspire for testing purposes that also has a cracked screen. Not sure how bad it is but I was planning on just replacing the display for learning purposes. However it seems that it may not be worth the time spent.
If I do decide to give it a go I'll post my results here. First thing is to acquire new tape. Did you all purchase it locally or did you buy the adhesive online?
YouTube has lots of videos. Best to watch a few a see the best way. If you are scared to break it best you send it in for repair instead. Get a digitizer and screen combo.
I have a blue Verizon S3. I recently dropped it and it of course landed such that there are a few chips in two corners. The damage is just cosmetic, but I'd like to fix it if possible. My understanding is that the bezel is attached to the screen,requiring either a difficult bezel replacement or a complete screen replacement, but both of which I'd prefer to avoid.
So, my guess is that the best plan would be to fill in the chips (if necessary) with epoxy and paint over it with nail polish or paint. But I don't know what would be the best match.
Has anyone tried doing this and had success with a particular type of nail polish/paint?
Thanks.
My recommendation is to buy a case that covers the phone completely, you'll forget about it...
I have a Diztronic case arriving Wednesday, but need to use it with my car dock without the case. It's not a big deal, but given that its trivial to do (except for finding the right paint) I would like to do it.
Well you're definately right, a simple cosmetic fix would be best, here's your part...
Not sure what to tell you man, maybe someone will chime in with some info or similar experience... It's just cheap plastic...
I found this on eHow:
How to Repair Chipped Plastic
You can actually get the bezel separately for $17, but the screen needs to be heated to come off - not easy. Plastic repair is easier (as you pointed out) but a good job requires good paint. Hopefully someone has already tried.
Thanks for the suggestions.
I remembered this thread from cappy section... With people making modifications to their housings... possibly you can msg one of them...
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I have a blue Verizon S3. I recently dropped it and it of course landed such that there are a few chips in two corners. The damage is just cosmetic, but I'd like to fix it if possible. My understanding is that the bezel is attached to the screen,requiring either a difficult bezel replacement or a complete screen replacement, but both of which I'd prefer to avoid.
So, my guess is that the best plan would be to fill in the chips (if necessary) with epoxy and paint over it with nail polish or paint. But I don't know what would be the best match.
Has anyone tried doing this and had success with a particular type of nail polish/paint?
Thanks.
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did you ever find a solution to this problem? I just recently scratched my bezel on my s3 as well...
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did you ever find a solution to this problem? I just recently scratched my bezel on my s3 as well...
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It's all kitted up into one part... the solution is a $250 front part of the phone...
Repairing the bezel itself is pretty hard which is also attached to the metal frame of the phone.
You will need to heat up the screen/metal frame then take the screen off, there is a high risk you could damage the screen.
If you do so, you will need to purchase a new screen which is around $200-250
If you look on ebay, you can find some that are preassembled (screen + bezel + frame) for $250
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Repairing the bezel itself is pretty hard which is also attached to the metal frame of the phone.
You will need to heat up the screen/metal frame then take the screen off, there is a high risk you could damage the screen.
If you do so, you will need to purchase a new screen which is around $200-250
If you look on ebay, you can find some that are preassembled (screen + bezel + frame) for $250
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thanks for repeating exactly what i said an hour before...
emckai said:
Repairing the bezel itself is pretty hard which is also attached to the metal frame of the phone.
You will need to heat up the screen/metal frame then take the screen off, there is a high risk you could damage the screen.
If you do so, you will need to purchase a new screen which is around $200-250
If you look on ebay, you can find some that are preassembled (screen + bezel + frame) for $250
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littlele87 said:
did you ever find a solution to this problem? I just recently scratched my bezel on my s3 as well...
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I looked in some drug stores for some nail polish that would match, but never found anything. It's currently in a case, so I rarely notice it. Maybe sometime when I have energy, I'll try to replace the bezel, but not for now.
Well I cracked the glass on my Galaxy S3 and there is some other superficial damage around the bezel. As I am going to be getting another phone shortly anyway I was thinking about this problem and how I could get my phone as possible to "new." After consideration I'm leaning to using an automotive paint/scratch repair pen as opposed to nailpolish. Depending on how it turns out, I'll upload my process, materials, and pictures.
I was trying to change digitizer to my tf300 by following this video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3_JRLd7lPv8 .The video is really bad, considering that this guy will show you a tf300 that has been opened before or something, because its very easy for him to do certain things, that i found very hard,and had to use other techniques.For example, i had really hard time separating the old digitizer and the plastic frame. In order to separate these two parts, i used some heat blowing gun (professional one) which turned to be very effective separating the digitizer from the plastic frame, but the plastic got wraped (as you can see in pic). Also, i don't have an adhesive tape or glue in order to stick the new digitizer to the frame so i m unable to stick the new digitizer to the frame.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/bwz1cw2pu1zrgst/IMG_20131010_135139.JPG
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I was trying to change digitizer to my tf300 by following this video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3_JRLd7lPv8 .The video is really bad, considering that this guy will show you a tf300 that has been opened before or something, because its very easy for him to do certain things, that i found very hard,and had to use other techniques.For example, i had really hard time separating the old digitizer and the plastic frame. In order to separate these two parts, i used some heat blowing gun (professional one) which turned to be very effective separating the digitizer from the plastic frame, but the plastic got wraped (as you can see in pic). Also, i don't have an adhesive tape or glue in order to stick the new digitizer to the frame so i m unable to stick the new digitizer to the frame.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/bwz1cw2pu1zrgst/IMG_20131010_135139.JPG
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You used too much heat. I don't think the warped frame will fit anymore. You might need to buy a new one. You really don't need heat initially though. Since you were gonna discard the broken digitizer anyway, you should've just scraped the glass off. Use this type of adhesive to glue back.
Thanks for you info!I was thinking of puting the frame on a table, put the new digitizer to fit as much as possible, put some towel on, and then heat it again by gently pressing it with the iron.Else, where can i find a replacement part?I don't even know the name of this specific part so i can search for it.
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Thanks for you info!I was thinking of puting the frame on a table, put the new digitizer to fit as much as possible, put some towel on, and then heat it again by gently pressing it with the iron.Else, where can i find a replacement part?I don't even know the name of this specific part so i can search for it.
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It's the front plastic bezel. Sometimes it's available used on Ebay. Best place to inquire would be Asus Parts located somewhere in Europe. I wouldn't try what you're thinking of doing unless you can straighten it again using the broken digitizer, as the screen is extremely brittle and the slightest pressure might crack it.
Just got the s5 from a family member..great phone..the bezel is chipped quite heavily .. the replacement part seems cheap enough but I don't know if it's worth the risk..maybe just case it up and be done with it..
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Just got the s5 from a family member..great phone..the bezel is chipped quite heavily .. the replacement part seems cheap enough but I don't know if it's worth the risk..maybe just case it up and be done with it..
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Your best bet for a guide to follow that also has images is on the following link.
https://www.ifixit.com/Device/Samsung_Galaxy_S5
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Just got the s5 from a family member..great phone..the bezel is chipped quite heavily .. the replacement part seems cheap enough but I don't know if it's worth the risk..maybe just case it up and be done with it..
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No, it isn't if you've never done this before.
Reasons are the next:
1. The risk to damage LCD-assembly is very high.
2. The risk to buy a non-suitable bezel (middle frame, or "rear case" how Samsung calls this part) is very high. They are different for different variants of S5 and contain different main antennas inside gray plastic.
Your best bet is to wait for a crack in the screen. You're also gonna screw up the adhesive around the screen and you could literally break keys underneath (no backlight anymore)
Unless you can pop in a nail and try to lift up the screen yourself... as it happens when device is old.
As of now new Original screen is around 100€, which is one of the best display today.
I'll just stick a case on and be done with it..just get a new charge port cover and that'll do..haha
I just installed a new charger port cover. Cost me $3.50 and took 5 minutes to install.. If you really want to change the bezel do a google search on how to do it.. There are plenty of videos which will show you the steps..
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Just got the s5 from a family member..great phone..the bezel is chipped quite heavily .. the replacement part seems cheap enough but I don't know if it's worth the risk..maybe just case it up and be done with it..
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after watching several instructional videos on how to disassemble my s5, i realized its not worth it. they water-proofed the crap out of it with multiple layers of adhesive. using a heat gun to soften the glue is a pain, and can also damage the components.
if you use some kind of very soft heat gun and a "sucker" while sliding in a small credit card, you can do it. it is all about being delicate...
The bad thing to replace the bezel frame is that you have to unmount the whole phone, and at last remove the screen. It's glued to the frame with an adhesive band and it's very difficult to remove it without breaking it. And probably you'll need a new adhesive to mount it again to the frame, otherwise parts of the screen will remain elevated from the bezel.
And it's very easy to break the AMOLED screen connector between the mainboard and the screen if you don't know where it is. First, you'll have to watch several youtube vids to get to know how to disasemble the phone and where the connector is.
And if you dare to replace it and you fail, there're cheap alternatives like this: https://lltrader.com/collections/s5/products/samsung-galaxy-s5-display-assembly-no-frame but it's not an original AMOLED, it's a LCD and very fragile, keep it in mind.
Hi guys
Sadly I have a cracked display...so there are no spare parts available and the shops in Germany would like to have something around 500€.
I changed in the past some Sony-Displays and thought about doing myself. I found on aliexpress some U12+Displays.
Sadly I didnt found a single "manual" or how to, to do this right - anyone can help?
Best regards
Maybe these vids from JerryRigEverything can help you out.
Good luck!
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Hi guys
Sadly I have a cracked display...so there are no spare parts available and the shops in Germany would like to have something around 500€.
I changed in the past some Sony-Displays and thought about doing myself. I found on aliexpress some U12+Displays.
Sadly I didnt found a single "manual" or how to, to do this right - anyone can help?
Best regards
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I just replaced mine yesterday and it was more difficult than any other one I've done in the past. Anyway I never found one single video on YouTube that showed the screen removal and pretty much had to play it by ear. There are a few videos that show the disassembly of the U12+ and each stops before removing the screen. My advice is to remove everything from the frame, I managed to piece together enough from the videos to know there are 15 screws to remove, one video said 14 but there's one more that's hidden until you've gotten under the motherboard holding the front facing cameras. Knowing I wanted to keep it simple I didn't remove all of the antenna wires, there's one at the bottom that's under the speaker cover that I left attached so I only disconnected it from the motherboard. Then the other I only disconnected near the vibrator, leaving it connected at the motherboard, so each piece had one wire that stayed connected. Meanwhile you'll have to undo every other plug on the device and with a little persuasion everything fell out. (Don't attempt to remove the button/pressure sensing strips along the sides!) Once you are down to the frame, and for me the ear piece speaker, I used a heat gun to soften the bond between the glass and the frame. It doesn't loosen up very easily, they are really bonded together. I got most of it and then began to chip away at the broken glass. You'll want a good heat gun for this part. I had to set mine to 300F to really get it to loosen up and then work mm by mm around the edge getting all of the glass and glue out of the track. This probably took me a half hour or more. I used E6000 glue but only because I would have had to order B7000 or any other recommended glue. E6000 is a good glue but just because many of the other videos I watched used B7000 I would have liked to use it too.
To install the new screen I used a syringe filled with my glue to follow the small glue track around the edge of the frame. Don't worry about squeeze out because this glue is very forgiving and wipes away easily with IPA Alcohol and a rag. I followed the old glue placement, adding a little extra near the bottom corners and a dab around the ear piece speaker holes. Then it's just reversing the process to assemble the electronics. Now here is another word of warning, the plugs are so small and some are not easy to align but be sure they snap into place and are flat when installed. I made the mistake of not getting the display plug flat and had to do a partial disassembly to correct the issue.
I didn't glue the back on but think I might today just to try and achieve the waterproof level the phone shipped with. You may have to glue yours but I had previously broken the back and already replaced it and the replacement came with a double sided adhesive strip that was still pretty sticky. If I remember correctly the original back was glued on and probably wouldn't have stuck if I had tried to just replace the back as I did.
One other note. After being disassembled and pulling the battery my finger print scanner didn't want to work. In fact it didn't even show up in the menu when I went looking for it but restarting the phone again caused it to show up. My advantage with the double sided adhesive was I was able to test everything and use the phone for a full day before committing to gluing the back on. Now that I know everything is working, the phone is charging and it all seems good I can glue the back on.
Best of luck