Hey everyone,
My contract with AT&T just expired and I may switch to Verizon to go for the Galaxy Nexus or Razor Maxx. However, I like the Galaxy SII that AT&T only offers. I currently have a Captivate and love it. I just want to know if anyone has any opinions on the SGSII or Nexus. Thanks
LongLiveCappy92 said:
Hey everyone,
My contract with AT&T just expired and I may switch to Verizon to go for the Galaxy Nexus or Razor Maxx. However, I like the Galaxy SII that AT&T only offers. I currently have a Captivate and love it. I just want to know if anyone has any opinions on the SGSII or Nexus. Thanks
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I still have my captivate but it just collects dust after getting my att sgs2. I'm pretty unsure why you would even have to consider upgrading to a phone that is 100 times better then the captivate.
Well the Captivate was the first Android I had and it's so versatile. And I see developers are porting ICS for it. But I can't argue with the power and awesomeness of the SGS2
if I were you I would try an ics ROM. I would recommend docs Master ics (v3.1)
My cappy is blazing fast. I'm talking 0 lag!
MC 3 runs completely smooth with not a hint of stutter or lag. That's with no over clocking! When I oc/live oc it with nstools, I can get it up to 1500mghz.
Run it for a while and wait for the sgs 3.
Hope this helps you on your decision.
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I'm loving ICS and the anker battery on the cappy, it changed my decision on wanting to upgrade now. My upgrade was eligible last Oct, but I holding out till summer when all the quad-cores come out (I HOPE!!).
Yea, I guess waiting is always an option, especially if more powerful phones are still to come! I'll look more into ICS and see what I can do, I'm on Serendipity 7 right now and it's pretty laggy, at least for me.
I went from a Captivate running S7 to a SGSII. To say the SGSII blows away the Captivate is an understatement. I have felt zero need to even root the phone yet. It is great out of the box. Fast, stable, great battery life. Not one force close since I got it 6-7 weeks ago FYI, still running 2.3.4 Gingerbread. If you get one, don't update to 2.3.6. It has battery drain issues.
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FC out of the box was never an issue. Why anyone would buy a new phone that is only running GB is beyond me. If I was in a position to switch carriers I'd go with the Nexus, you're getting the good stuff that everyone else is just trying to catch up to.
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FC out of the box was never an issue. Why anyone would buy a new phone that is only running GB is beyond me. If I was in a position to switch carriers I'd go with the Nexus, you're getting the good stuff that everyone else is just trying to catch up to.
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Well isn't the sgs2 slated for an ICS upgrade? I know Samsung said that the captivate won't get ICS. And we all know how much of an ordeal it was just to get froyo, let alone gingerbread on it, so it'll probably be the same way for the sgs2, but it has better specs than the Nexus
If I were you I would upgrade in a heart beat. Hardware-wise the Captivate just can't compete with the dual-cores phone you mentioned. And the battery from the Maxx is a beast!
Keep in mind that AT&T is now charging doubled the upgrade fee (from $18 to $36). Switching to Verzion can easily get you free activation + free shipping via some online retailer in addition to their "Twice the data, same low price" data promo, which is quite a deal unless you got grandfathered with AT&T previous data plan.
I also loved the Galaxy S II, only downside is no 4G LTE with the exception of the Skyrocket. Rumor has it that Skyrocket HD is coming to AT&T, with a full 720p Super AMOLED screen upgrade from a 480x800. You might want to wait on that.
Just my two cents.
task650 said:
I still have my captivate but it just collects dust after getting my att sgs2. I'm pretty unsure why you would even have to consider upgrading to a phone that is 100 times better then the captivate.
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What he said
I still love my C(r)aptivate. I loathed it something aweful because of the utterly fail GPS, but all-in-all it's still a fantastic phone. Seeing that I have the LG Thrill as my main phone(I use nav a lot and needed better gps or i wouldn't have) which just came out and is still on FROYO and a phone that came out last July already has Gingerbread...It's nice to know that it is still supported. A lot is to be said about not having a contract being held over your head too. Personally if I were you I would keep the Captivate and leave my options open. Some awesome phones will be coming out Q3 this year. I'm looking forward to the Tegra 3 powered HTC Endeavor. Bide your time and know you can jump ship to another carrier any time you choose. IMHO
Yea, the GPS was a huge fail, I actually sent back my first one because apparently the first manufactured devices were "defective" but even after I got a new one my GPS didn't improve much. The captivate is under powered, but it sounds like some pretty awesome phones are in the works and not having a contract allows for some breathing room. I guess I'll just see which carrier releases the most desirable phone in the next few months or so and go from there.
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I have felt zero need to even root the phone yet. It is great out of the box. Fast, stable, great battery life. Not one force close since I got it 6-7 weeks ago FYI, still running 2.3.4 Gingerbread.
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Really? No interests in customization? Cuz rooting the phone for reasons you listed is a rather poor use of root access... No such thing as "good" stock!
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The captivate is under powered,
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No it's not, if anything call it "outdated." The device is getting close to two years old! When it came out no one was honestly considering a PHONE having a dual-core CPU. In all honesty they don't need it! Quad-core is just ridicules... The ICS ROMs we have now show that the phone is by no means under powered.
As to the other idea, all I can say is that AT&T seems to be getting more and more greedy, their practices more sleazy... Or at least being faster to jump on ways to improve profits and reduce costs, of which we the customers are seeing no benefits...
leaked from my ICS- FUSED SGS I897 contaminating you via XDA app.
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Improve profits and reduce costs as in raise rates and reduce services. Or Promise a technology, then abandon it before fruition. I liked the falsely advertising a technology ploy. I've been with this phone service since it was Cingular, which in my opinion was a far better company. It's been getting harder and harder to renew my contract. I find myself peering over the fence to see how green the grass is on the other side.
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Improve profits and reduce costs as in raise rates and reduce services. Or Promise a technology, then abandon it before fruition. I liked the falsely advertising a technology ploy. I've been with this phone service since it was Cingular, which in my opinion was a far better company. It's been getting harder and harder to renew my contract. I find myself peering over the fence to see how green the grass is on the other side.
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I know what you mean here... I've been with them since Cingular as well and I know the prices will go up over time, but their service hasn't improved one bit. One big bonus of Verizon is the coverage they have nationwide is FAR superior to AT&T's. When you have to sell a Microcell to imporve coverage in your customer's houses, you know you need to upgrade your service. Verizon will probably end up having the better LTE network too, as AT&T never went nationwide 3G, as Verizon did looong ago
I'm switching to Verizon as well in March. Why? Att and their throttling madness .I get throttle every month right around the 2gb mark 2 weeks into my billing cycle after that data is unusable. I just sold my Sgs2 skyrocket yesterday using the captivate until my contract is over .
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I got the captivate the second day the phone came out, so I have the phone with all the problems. I ALMOST upgraded to the SGS2, until teamhacksung's ICS rom came out. It runs so smoothly that it actually makes my captivate usable! I would suggest waiting for the SGS3; thats what I am doing. Why buy a phone that has been out for a long time (SGS2) when the upgrade is just around the corner!
No matter how good these ROMs get, it is impossible to fix my terrible GPS, connection dropping issues, battery drains, and random crashes.
I just read an article about the throttling and how inconsistent it is at various data limits. I just can't believe they get away with it. It just shows how inferior their network is to Verizon if Verizon can handle it smoothly. Yea the SGS3 is worth waiting for. I think I'm gonna try ICS on my Captivate for now and hopefully that will hold me long enough. I just hate that it doesn't have a front facing camera.
Cappy still rules!
1. On stock ROMs - they don't cut it. XDA matured to fix all bugs and shortcomings of manufacturer ROM.
2. May be skip AT&T upgrade alltogether? See what they did to GSII Skyrocket and Note? Bastardized and downgraded to Snapdragon old chip.
3. Get GSII from ebay, may be? It is around 500 now.
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OK, I've had my Captivate for 3 weeks now and while I really like it, I have a major decision to make before my window to return it closes. Coming from a WinMo Tilt 2 I was somewhat put off by it not being as easy to mod, but I can live with that. I bought it mainly because of Samsung's promise to upgrade it to Froyo. Looks like that was a mistake. I'm willing to root it to remove the bloat and allow sideloading, but I haven't yet felt comfortable to think about a custom ROM. Not sure I ever will as it is much different from doing the same on a WinMo phone. The biggest gripe I have, though, is the GPS performance. I've had both ends of the spectrum as far as getting locks with different programs, insode and outside, and lost lock several times while navigating in the car, both here in Cali and in Florida. I mountain bike and use my phone to track my rides, so GPS is important to me. My Tilt worked excellently in that regard.
So, do I keep it and just learn to live with it, even though it looks like AT$T will have some really nice Android offerings in the near future, or do I cut my losses (about $100 worth of Cappy accessories I already purchased) and return it before my 30 days are up? I like the form factor, the performance, the way it plays my converted movies and all the apps available for it, but the crappy GPS and dismal battery life are really starting to bug me. What say you, XDA community?
Honestly I'd just bite the bullet & return it. Using Phoenix rom you could have great GPS but there's really gonna be some better **** coming out. That's what ID do.
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Return it, and stick to old phone. There are couple of good phones lined up to be released within the end of first quarter '11.
sure would miss an active member who knows what he's talking about in the captivate sub
I just seen in yahoos homepage about att new phones announced at the CES show, check it out, the one that has my interest is the"samsung infuse 4g" search to see photos if it, looks like captivate but bigger, I know why samsung or att hasn't released 2.2 because looks like they just moved on. Features include: 4.5 inch super omled screen, 8mp camera with 1.3mp front having camera, 1.2 ghz hummingbird processor, 2.2 froyo upgradeable to 2.3 "so they say unless they just move on again with a new phone" up to a 48gb sd card. And running hspda or 3g+, but att is calling this 4g. I have this on my cappy now with doc v7 rom now and it is faster than 3g.
I would just wait, they also announced others, check the site.
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Thanks for the input, guys. Well, I decided to keep the Cappy. Here's why: I only paid $49 for it on upgrade. The newer batch of Android phones will not see that kind of pricing for at least 6 months, likely longer. I spoke to an AT$T rep and she assured me that they are committed to providing the promised Froyo update ASAP. No time frame, but it will happen. My biggest complaint is with the GPS and I have done some things to improve it, at least outdoors, so I think I can live with it for my mountain bike excursions. I rarely use it for in-car navigation. Was more of a novelty while I was visiting Florida over the holidays.
So, thanks again to all that responded and XDA in general. I'm going to root my Cappy and remove the bloat in the next few days. Oh, and my 1800mah battery came yesterday and I'm currently conditioning it to see if it has any benefit over stock. Will post in that thread.
Return it. I wish i had... They promised me the Froyo update asap back in august when i bought the phone. i made a HUGE mistake buying this phone. i HATE AT&T
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So, thanks again to all that responded and XDA in general. I'm going to root my Cappy and remove the bloat in the next few days.
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Flash a Froyo ROM and apply Da_G's GPS fix (if it's not built in to the ROM). You won't regret it.
Actually, if you wait a day or so, you'll be able to flash a bone-stock Captivate Froyo ROM from Rogers.
I just can't go back to my Tilt 2. I loved that phone, but it feels like a dinosaur, now. What if I do wipe the Cappy and return it? When I get another Android phone would I be able to download all my paid apps from Market without having to repurchase them? Is Market activity phone or user specific?
Don't quote me but I think its linked to your google acc. That you sign into to pay for apps
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Don't quote me but I think its linked to your google acc. That you sign into to pay for apps
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When I lost my Captivate on the Haul road and was sent a new one, all my paid apps popped up in the Market ready for installation as soon as I'd set up my Google account. So I think you're right.
It astonishes me how many people bought this phone based on the promise of Froyo. It's not like Froyo is so much better than Eclair, and it's not like the phone is a worthless POS without Froyo.
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It astonishes me how many people bought this phone based on the promise of Froyo. It's not like Froyo is so much better than Eclair, and it's not like the phone is a worthless POS without Froyo.
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You're right.
It's a worthless POS WITH Froyo.
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It astonishes me how many people bought this phone based on the promise of Froyo. It's not like Froyo is so much better than Eclair, and it's not like the phone is a worthless POS without Froyo.
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Which is why I'm willing to keep it. I am always amazed at the people who get so bummed when a new phone comes out as if it rendered their current phone inoperative. You're right that Froyo isn't a big deal, but a better working GPS and Flash support are desirable features. Samsung and AT$T just need to follow through on their promise of the update. If they don't, I'll still be happy with the phone, but it will definitely be the last Samsung product I'll buy. I stopped buying their HDTVs when the last one took a dump and I couldn't get warranty service.
You could also exchange it for a new one based on the poor GPS performance. I mean if it doesn't work right, they should exchange it with no questios asked right? Since it seems that the GPS issue is hit and miss with these phone, you may get one that works good right out of the box.
I went to the warranty center this past weekend and exchanged my Captivate for another one because of the GPS and a couple of shutdowns over the last 2 1/2 mos and the replacement I got has much improved GPS.
I've actually got my GPS dialed in and working pretty well right now.
Should have returned it. At&t has been bs'ing us on the froyo update since Google announced it. I'm enjoying my Phoenix rom but I wish I had the real deal. I'll be buying the motorolla with that duel core when it drops
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I've actually got my GPS dialed in and working pretty well right now.
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Glad to hear that.
I would keep it considering how much you got it for. I mean, $49 is a good deal for this phone even with its issues. When I got mine, I paid the same for a refurb.
Hope I can sell my captivate for a decent price and upgrade to the new motorola or htc phone relatively cheaply. I love this phone, but I hate it at the same time. Will be nice to not have to worry about lagfixes, scetchy gps, and updates that take damn near forever. Main thing I will miss is of course the samoled screen.
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Yea good luck with trying to sell it... at least here on XDA.
Might be luckier if you eBay/Craigs List it and hope some poor sap is willing to pay for it.
The whole Galaxy S line has a horrible reputation now - even the Nexus S!
I was hoping to trade for an AT&T Nexus... but A) they wouldn't take it as a trade and B) they wanted cash to go along with it.
Meh - I'll be keeping this phone till it pukes and then upgrade when the year comes up. At this point I don't care if AT&T ever releases a true Froyo update.
I mean, we would get Infuse 4G in this spring. However that is not Galaxy S 2, just overclocked Captivate with better screen. Rumors confirmed that new Galaxy S series will come with Orion processor that is duelcore hummingbird. I know android OS and apps are not optimized to duel core so it could be useless battery hog until it get honeycomb.
But most concerning point is Infuse 4G will come with froyo and take time forever to get gingerbread, it is really dealbeaker. Also Infuse 4G will have no international brother like i9000 which is our ROM source.
Should I end up contract to AT&T and move on other carrier?
Given Galaxy S2 is still under tight wrap waiting to be announced at MWC, it is too early to talk about whether or not AT&T will get it.
Officially, Galaxy S2 does not even exit. So how do you know AT&T won't get it.
So far, the only Android OS I saw that mentioned dual-core support is HoneyComb (3.0) which is only for tablet. Gingerbread does not support dual core. So, having a dual core phone right now is quite useless, the other half will just stay unused.
Go to t-mobile and quit samsuck completely. AT&T is terrible with Android support, and Samsuck.....well......they suck. That is unless you want your phone to be a statistic in the Samsuck fragmentation universe.
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Go to t-mobile and quit samsuck completely. AT&T is terrible with Android support, and Samsuck.....well......they suck. That is unless you want your phone to be a statistic in the Samsuck fragmentation universe.
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T-mobile sucks in this area...so that really isn't a good alternative IMHO...and I have absolutely no idea what you are saying about the fragmentation..There really isn't any carrier that doesn't suck...they all do...some just more than others in some areas...
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lol @ relying on a carrier to provide OS support. Do it yourself. XDA is here for a reason.
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There really isn't any carrier that doesn't suck...they all do...some just more than others in some areas...
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Truer words have never been spoken.
Mac11700 said:
There really isn't any carrier that doesn't suck...they all do...some just more than others in some areas...
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QF the muther******* T!
there are rumors of the nexus s coming for at&t.
engadget dot com/2011/01/27/nexus-s-coming-in-a-new-atandt-flavor/
and at&t itself has said that this year they'll be bringing a lot of top end android phones (not gimping them to make iphone look superior). a good side-effect of them losing iphone exclusivity.
i'd wait for feb14-17 for the mobile world conference to get a better idea of which phones are coming.
Personally, the Captivate is the last Samsung product I'll buy, and probably the last product I'll buy from A**. The way I was ripped off on this phone by the customer support will survive in my memory for AT LEAST the duration of this contract. I don't care WHAT Samsung comes up with.
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Personally, the Captivate is the last Samsung product I'll buy, and probably the last product I'll buy from A**. The way I was ripped off on this phone by the customer support will survive in my memory for AT LEAST the duration of this contract. I don't care WHAT Samsung comes up with.
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I'm with you on that. Samsuck is dead to me. As soon as the Atrix or Optimus 2X hits AT&T I'm ditching my Captivate immediately.
I would like to leave AT&T too, but where I live, they have the best 3G speeds. With HSDPA/HSUPA enabled I get 2Mb down/1.5 Mb up. Verizon here cant touch that. Everybody at work has VZW and they get about 700kb up and down.
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lol @ relying on a carrier to provide OS support. Do it yourself. XDA is here for a reason.
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Here, here!
Unless it's the Nexus S, don't buy a Samsung anything. You'll regret it.
A nrw OS does not fix a broken phone. Even with the best OS, the bad phones turn themselves off and the GPS stays flakey. Thats not to mention that you're risking your warantee and the folks that bricked their phones upgrading. I have changed ROMS but for a top of the line smart phone, you shouldn't have to.
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lol @ relying on a carrier to provide OS support. Do it yourself. XDA is here for a reason.
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Very Good Phone
im far away from ATT so i dont know how its support works. For me the Captivate is the best phone ive ever had. I dont have any complains about it. And is even better with the great roms available here on XDA. iphone 4 lovers hate me when i show them all the things i can do... Sure there probably are better phones... but i dont see a reason to change mine for a while.
This will be my last Samsung as well. Thankfully Andromeda 1.0 makes it a usable phone to get me through this contract.
Yeah, the GPS leaves a lot to be desired. I've managed to finally get a ROM/Kernel/Modem combination that is stable, and can keep a GPS lock.
The only other Samsung phone I had prior to this was the WinMo Blackjack. Back then I didn't know enough about smartphones to be aware that it was horrible.
But, hey, I got my Captivate for free. Christmas present from my girlfriend, and she only paid $70 for the phone, screen protector, and 16 gig microSD card. So, I can't complain too much.
I am grateful to the Captivate, though. Without it, I wouldn't have learned about Android, and what true customization is all about.
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A nrw OS does not fix a broken phone. Even with the best OS, the bad phones turn themselves off and the GPS stays flakey. Thats not to mention that you're risking your warantee and the folks that bricked their phones upgrading. I have changed ROMS but for a top of the line smart phone, you shouldn't have to.
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Honestly not hating on you dude, but you should buy an IPhone. If you want something that works out of the box and you don't have to mess with that's the way to go. EVERY Android handset out there requires tweaking to some degree or another. And every other manufacturer has their own issues.
Samsung has a bit of a track record of not updating and now the GPS issues. But Motorola gets you a locked boot loader. LG currently doesn't have a real competitor in the US yet. HTC just took the EVO and rebadged it for Verizon and AT&T, not to mention the Desire HD for the rest of the world.
I'm not overly thrilled with the Captivate. It's a great phone, but the lack of support from Samsung (cmon, at&t may have it's faults but they have little to do with the lack of an update or support, they just sell phones, my opinion of course.) The biggest issue for me is GPS. I do have a standalone unit for trips and such but I really like having a phone that can get me from A to B easily. I don't carry my GPS everywhere, I do carry my phone.
Would I buy another Samsung Device?? Maybe. I'd certainly wait a few weeks after it was released to see what the main issues are. As far as software, I don't care. I flash ROM's more than I change my...... Well you get my point.
if att gets the galaxy 2? it will hit in the fall of course,they will milk the atrix ,infuse and the htc dealio for all they are worth. sad reaalllymost likely increase data charges for no reason than renaming their 3g network....sounds like the goverment at work here, we need bigger goverment to counteract this maddddnesss
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im far away from ATT so i dont know how its support works. For me the Captivate is the best phone ive ever had. I dont have any complains about it. And is even better with the great roms available here on XDA. iphone 4 lovers hate me when i show them all the things i can do... Sure there probably are better phones... but i dont see a reason to change mine for a while.
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Gotta agree with you there. When I switched from my iPhone to the Cappy, I'll admit I went through some withdrawal basically because a comparable cydia/rock alternative wasn't readily available (I really missed the streaming video and content apps...the ones that worked anyway :/ ). The work the devs are doing within the XDA community breathed new life and excitement into my cappy. I think in time, the overall developement scene for Android will rival and (hopefully) surpass what the iPhone community has accomplished.
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Gotta agree with you there. When I switched from my iPhone to the Cappy, I'll admit I went through some withdrawal basically because a comparable cydia/rock alternative wasn't readily available (I really missed the streaming video and content apps...the ones that worked anyway :/ ). The work the devs are doing within the XDA community breathed new life and excitement into my cappy. I think in time, the overall developement scene for Android will rival and (hopefully) surpass what the iPhone community has accomplished.
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Agreed. Before I got my Captivate, I was expecting the same Cydia/Installer combo to show up a couple minutes after I got it.
Honestly, Market serves as an undermined Cydia, but iPhone does have the better dev base by a landslide and that's why it's more popular, at least for devs and the like.
If Captivate had the dev base iPhone does, I wouldn't need anything else. Then again, I don't think anyone else would, either.
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I'm getting a straight trade +100~
Would out be worth it? Sounds nice......but.....its locked down and still only on froyo :/
Swyped from my gingerfied captivate
What its a straight trade +100~?
If you are getting atrix plus $100 then there is your answer, but if you are throwing in $100 with your captivate then no its not worth it.
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What its a straight trade +100~?
If you are getting atrix plus $100 then there is your answer, but if you are throwing in $100 with your captivate then no its not worth it.
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throwing in 100 with my captivate
can I ask why is it not worth it to you?
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throwing in 100 with my captivate
can I ask why is it not worth it to you?
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I hava an Atrix and a Captivate. I love both phones. He is right though, its not worth it. I would say that you should wait, hold off a few months and wait for the SGS II. AT&T has a variant coming sometime this year, and with the rollout of their LTE network starting this summer, you have to imagine that the SGS II would be a great canidate to be one of their 1st LTE enabled phones (that's personal opinion, not based on any verified info). Aside from that, the performance differences between the two phones is noticable, but not DRASTIC. Having actual, working GPS is nice, and some of the other features are cool, but honestly I would say wait.
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I hava an Atrix and a Captivate. I love both phones. He is right though, its not worth it. I would say that you should wait, hold off a few months and wait for the SGS II. AT&T has a variant coming sometime this year, and with the rollout of their LTE network starting this summer, you have to imagine that the SGS II would be a great canidate to be one of their 1st LTE enabled phones (that's personal opinion, not based on any verified info). Aside from that, the performance differences between the two phones is noticable, but not DRASTIC. Having actual, working GPS is nice, and some of the other features are cool, but honestly I would say wait.
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well TBH, I don't really mind about the SoC other than the fact that its a dual and it would be significantly better than the single core that my captivate has.
and I don't live in the states, so I"m not really affected about LTE and such since we don't have LTE or anything where I live.
what I am worried about is the locked bootloader and such cause I can safetly run gingerbread on my captivate, but I won't be able to be on gingerbread once I'm on the atrix and my ROM choices and tweakign and such will be very limited until we can get the bootloader unlocked since motorola is such an ass to lock it.
I'm still debating this....with half of me saying "no" and half of me saying "yes"
does your atrix "feel faster or smoother" compared to the captivate?
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well TBH, I don't really mind about the SoC other than the fact that its a dual and it would be significantly better than the single core that my captivate has.
and I don't live in the states, so I"m not really affected about LTE and such since we don't have LTE or anything where I live.
what I am worried about is the locked bootloader and such cause I can safetly run gingerbread on my captivate, but I won't be able to be on gingerbread once I'm on the atrix and my ROM choices and tweakign and such will be very limited until we can get the bootloader unlocked since motorola is such an ass to lock it.
I'm still debating this....with half of me saying "no" and half of me saying "yes"
does your atrix "feel faster or smoother" compared to the captivate?
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Ahh, then yea all the AT&T stuff is kinda irrelevant, lol. The rom choices out there are minimal due to the bootloader encryption, obviously, but there is a HELL of a lot of working going on to fix that. Don't want to speak too soon but we may be close. Khoulk, tenfar, TBH, and a bunch of others are working on it. The Atrix is faster and smoother, yes, but we still don't even have an ETA for Gingerbread.
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Ahh, then yea all the AT&T stuff is kinda irrelevant, lol. The rom choices out there are minimal due to the bootloader encryption, obviously, but there is a HELL of a lot of working going on to fix that. Don't want to speak too soon but we may be close. Khoulk, tenfar, TBH, and a bunch of others are working on it. The Atrix is faster and smoother, yes, but we still don't even have an ETA for Gingerbread.
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so do you"feel" that my captivate+100 would be a decent deal for a nice more "up to date" phone?
cheers
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so do you"feel" that my captivate+100 would be a decent deal for a nice more "up to date" phone?
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I have an atrix and since i have bought it i love my cappy more. The only thing better in atrix is GPS from end user perspective. Somebody was right when he mentioned that maybe its a better idea to wait for galaxy S II
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I have an atrix and since i have bought it i love my cappy more. The only thing better in atrix is GPS from end user perspective. Somebody was right when he mentioned that maybe its a better idea to wait for galaxy S II
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If you don't mind....can I ask you why do you like your captivate more?
Thanks
Swyped from my gingerfied captivate
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If you don't mind....can I ask you why do you like your captivate more?
Thanks
Swyped from my gingerfied captivate
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I would check online to see what the going rate for a used captivate is before offering it up + 100 for the Atrix. Compare that to the price for an off-contract atrix and you'll have your answer as to whether or not its a "fair" trade, value wise. Comparing the two phones to each other depends on how much you value aftermarket development. I'm a hardcore themer and that's why I kept my cappy. I haven't released anything for the Atrix yet, and I've had it almost since launch. I was able to get the Atrix through work at no cost, so it was win-win for me. Hardware wise, it is superior (except for the screen. Super Am. beats out the qhd 960x540 IMO). Development wise, there's no contest. Cappy is on Gingerbread. End of discussion. Its a trade-off either way. That's why I said wait for the SGS II to become available whereever you're at: dev friendly + hardware that is equal to or bettan than the atrix is almost every way. They're both great phones, IMO... but the SGS II is gonna be even better. And some phone that no one knows about that will be announced 2 months from now will be even better than the SGS II, lol.
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I would check online to see what the going rate for a used captivate is before offering it up + 100 for the Atrix. Compare that to the price for an off-contract atrix and you'll have your answer as to whether or not its a "fair" trade, value wise. Comparing the two phones to each other depends on how much you value aftermarket development. I'm a hardcore themer and that's why I kept my cappy. I haven't released anything for the Atrix yet, and I've had it almost since launch. I was able to get the Atrix through work at no cost, so it was win-win for me. Hardware wise, it is superior (except for the screen. Super Am. beats out the qhd 960x540 IMO). Development wise, there's no contest. Cappy is on Gingerbread. End of discussion. Its a trade-off either way. That's why I said wait for the SGS II to become available whereever you're at: dev friendly + hardware that is equal to or bettan than the atrix is almost every way. They're both great phones, IMO... but the SGS II is gonna be even better. And some phone that no one knows about that will be announced 2 months from now will be even better than the SGS II, lol.
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going rate for the captivate is around 300~ but then the atrix goes for alot more as well........
Maybe I should just wait longer for more dual core phones.....?
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I definitely wouldn't do it - the Captivate just has so much more to offer with a thriving developer community. The Atrix is supposedly on the verge of being rooted, but it will likely take awhile for things to really boom (and there's no telling when the root will even be successful). I have a few friends with the Atrix, and while it looks to be a decent phone, most complain about battery life and call quality.
I'm no fanboy - I'd jump ship from the Captivate tomorrow if the price was right and hardware/software looked to be legit, but right now the Captivate feels like one of the best possible phones a regular user and geek can have.
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I definitely wouldn't do it - the Captivate just has so much more to offer with a thriving developer community. The Atrix is supposedly on the verge of being rooted, but it will likely take awhile for things to really boom (and there's no telling when the root will even be successful). I have a few friends with the Atrix, and while it looks to be a decent phone, most complain about battery life and call quality.
I'm no fanboy - I'd jump ship from the Captivate tomorrow if the price was right and hardware/software looked to be legit, but right now the Captivate feels like one of the best possible phones a regular user and geek can have.
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The devs have already rooted the phone I think. They are trying to unlock the bootloader.
Don't do it OP. After messing around on an Atrix for awhile, it is a good phone but feels a little finnicky.
A captivate on GB feels a lot smoother than a stock Froyo Atrix IMO.
My opinion you would be paying for a downgrade
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Syntax3600 said:
I definitely wouldn't do it - the Captivate just has so much more to offer with a thriving developer community. The Atrix is supposedly on the verge of being rooted, but it will likely take awhile for things to really boom (and there's no telling when the root will even be successful). I have a few friends with the Atrix, and while it looks to be a decent phone, most complain about battery life and call quality.
I'm no fanboy - I'd jump ship from the Captivate tomorrow if the price was right and hardware/software looked to be legit, but right now the Captivate feels like one of the best possible phones a regular user and geek can have.
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its already rooted....only thign missing is the bootloader's still locked
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The devs have already rooted the phone I think. They are trying to unlock the bootloader.
Don't do it OP. After messing around on an Atrix for awhile, it is a good phone but feels a little finnicky.
A captivate on GB feels a lot smoother than a stock Froyo Atrix IMO.
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"finnicky"? don't get me wrong
I'm running CM7 and have tried other gingerbread ROM's on my captivate
but I kill the battery so fast and it slows to a halt once I try to multi task with browsing and stuff
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why would I be paying for a downgrade?
can you describe in more detail please if you don't mind
I'm digging the front facing camera, the working GPS, and the resolution bump.
The atrix doesn't run as hot when playing games (my backplate used to burn me) or when running GPS and the battery last considerably longer.
What do you do on your phone? If you read more news and the like, the screen is great. If you watch more movies on your phone, then you might like the sammy screen better.
The fingerprint reader is nifty as well.
I am weary of samsung's gps on the infuse and the SGS II so I will steer clear..
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I'm digging the front facing camera, the working GPS, and the resolution bump.
The atrix doesn't run as hot when playing games (my backplate used to burn me) or when running GPS and the battery last considerably longer.
What do you do on your phone? If you read more news and the like, the screen is great. If you watch more movies on your phone, then you might like the sammy screen better.
The fingerprint reader is nifty as well.
I am weary of samsung's gps on the infuse and the SGS II so I will steer clear..
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I do a mix of both.....
I think i've decided....atrix it is.....now just to wait for the other party to finalize the deal
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I do a mix of both.....
I think i've decided....atrix it is.....now just to wait for the other party to finalize the deal
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In the end it's your decision. The only way you can really go wrong is if you went to the extremely locked down iphone. Enjoy your new atrix my friend.
don't do it! I have a captivate and I just bought an atrix for $300 and was planning on selling my captivate. But after using the atrix for a couple of days I decided to sell the atrix instead. It is just a bad user experience. Mainly because of the screen and the lack of response. Whenever I would use the slider to slide through contacts, it would lose track of my finger and call someone on accident. Also it is an eyesore to look at when you are scrolling.
[/B]Samsung is preparing to release the Galaxy S2 at last! We give you the latest on the Attain, Within, Function and Hercules inside.
Shin Jong-kyun, President of Samsung Mobile Business and Digital Imaging, told a Korean newspaper this week that the Galaxy S2 will be launched in the U.S. market sometime in August. While Samsung has released several new Android smartphones in recent months, such as the Droid Charge for Verizon and Infuse 4G for AT&T, the new flagship we've all been waiting has only appeared in leaks and rumors. The Galaxy S2 is by far the most feature-rich smartphone Samsung has come up with to date, and is expected to be available on several carriers.
Samsung Attain for AT&T
Ever since the Samsung Attain appeared on Samsung's official Facebook page in early June, it's basically just been a matter of time before we would see an official release. Last year's Captivate shined like a true star a year ago, and the Attain is expected to be a worthy successor. TouchWIZ 4 atop Android 2.3 Gingerbread is the name of the game for the Attain, coupled with a 4.3-inch Super AMOLED Plus display, 4G HSPA+ connectivity, dual-core processor and 1GB RAM. In other words, it'll pretty much challenge the ATRIX 4G by Motorola directly, and could eventually give the iPhone 5 a hard time.
Samsung Within for Sprint
A hands-on photo of what is expected to be the Samsung Within for Sprint appeared only a few days ago. This version is specifically said to offer Android 2.3.4 Gingerbread, the recently released version that enables Google Talk video chats via Sprint's 4G network. The Within is also expected to offer integrated Google Voice and Google Wallet services. Like the Attain, it's also expected to offer a 4.3-inch Super AMOLED Plus display, 8-megapixel rear-facing and 2-megapixel front-facing cameras, as well as being packed with power under the hood in true Galaxy S2-grade style.
Samsung Function for Verizon
When Verizon introduced the Fascinate last fall, it instantly became a top-seller courtesy of its social networking focus. The follow-up, the Continuum, took the concept even further. However, the upcoming Samsung Function is expected to not only embrace the social networking crowd, but also business users. The Function has been equipped with Stealth MMXI technology, and is expected to take on the Droid Bionic in the "über-smartphone with 4G LTE connectivity" category this fall. Who the heck needs the 3G-only Verizon iPhone 5, anyway.
Samsung Hercules for T-Mobile
The Samsung Vibrant ruled T-Mobile's HSPA network last year, and the Samsung Hercules aims to rule the carrier's HSPA+ network this year, promising theoretical speeds of 42Mbps downlink and 6 Mbps uplink. While details of the Hercules are scarce, TmoNews recently reported that it is slated for release in late September. We imagine that's also when the above-mentioned Function for Verizon will appear, as they'll probably not all be released simultaneously. Interestingly, TmoNews has heard that it may get a 4.5-inch screen as opposed to the 4.3-inch screen found in the original Galaxy S2.
Im ready now.
It's about time we get this Beautiful Beast. I will be getting this and the Hercules when it's released in September.
I will eagerly await to see what the Great Developers come up with for these. I may even toss in a few requests after I see what they can and can not do.
WooHoo
That makes 2 of us LOL, I been waiting (it seems forever), for this monster too. I still have a few friends at AT&T. (used to work there), and one is a manager at store, so maybe get in on first batch hehe. good luck !
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That makes 2 of us LOL, I been waiting (it seems forever), for this monster too. I still have a few friends at AT&T. (used to work there), and one is a manager at store, so maybe get in on first batch hehe. good luck !
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Yeah that worked so well for the Captivate
My birthday is in August. What a good birthday it is going to be.
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My birthday is in August. What a good birthday it is going to be.
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My birthday is also in August, but I'm in the middle of a contract right now, so I highly doubt I'll be picking up the Attain anytime soon. I still love my Captivate, even if the battery life kinda sucks on any ROM but completely stock.
Excited for rogers to release something to rival the sgs2 for me to warrant me to get rid of my cappy.
If sgs II came out in june-july i would have already bought it
However im just gonna wait for android 4.0. now. Captivate is still a decent phone
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My two cappys are GREAT PHONES. One with CM7 perfection and the other with either the i897 Gingerbread or right now Apex 8.2 and I Love them Both. The ONLY phone I will TRADE UP for is the SGS2. I just tested my cappy cm7 against the Atrix 4G yesterday at the ATT store and my cappy was faster using speedtest than the atrix 4g side by side. Just barely beat it in upload and download speeds but it DID. So to me the SGS2 should BLOW it away. I also found out that I available for my next upgrade on August 31st. So HOPEFULLY lime my Cappy's 1007 builds it will be the second builds without the issues of the first builds
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I can't wait. I love my Captivate with Pheonix unleashed, but the Galaxy S II is the ultimate sounding phone. I would actually use the HDMI out alot, the front cam not so much.
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My birthday is also in August, but I'm in the middle of a contract right now, so I highly doubt I'll be picking up the Attain anytime soon. I still love my Captivate, even if the battery life kinda sucks on any ROM but completely stock.
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my birthday is in august as well. august ftw!
I wouldn't dream of being one of the first in line for one. After the horrible initial release and ensuing support from Samsung on the Galaxy S they have a long way to go to prove to me I should "upgrade". They obviously do not care if they rush out flawed hardware and when they do there is absolutely no effort to make things work properly. I'm mainly talking about the GPS issues but others as well. If I am buying into a device that is supposed to showcase a "location aware" OS then I sure would like it if my device had some clue where I was at. It doesn't even get the state I'm in correct a lot of the time, if it tells me where I'm at at all! I'm eligible for an upgrade in 2 months and my wife's HTC Inspire seems to be fairly dependable. I know for one thing the speed sure makes my Captivate look like decades old technology. If Samsung had shown any loyalty to us early Galaxy owners then I might feel a little loyalty back. Since they care about the almighty dollar more than they care about the customer then I will respond likewise. If HTC, which I've had HUGE success with in the past, offers me a good deal I'll happily jump ship from Samsung.
Yea it's going to be extremely hard for me to buy another carrier branded handset. Unlocked is the way to go. Glad they are finally getting the SGS2 out in the US though.
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Yea it's going to be extremely hard for me to buy another carrier branded handset. Unlocked is the way to go. Glad they are finally getting the SGS2 out in the US though.
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If I had the funds, and that is exactly how I would go. Unfortunately I can't pay an excess of 500 dollars, so I would need a carrier subsidized phone.
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If I had the funds, and that is exactly how I would go. Unfortunately I can't pay an excess of 500 dollars, so I would need a carrier subsidized phone.
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Buy a phone on contract (iPhone is good for this purpose) and sell it full price then buy the phone you want.
Support issues become fishy though.
I certainly hope they fixed the gps on the new release. I have been majorly disappointed in the gps functionality of the captivate.
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Buy a phone on contract (iPhone is good for this purpose) and sell it full price then buy the phone you want.
Support issues become fishy though.
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Yea. I'd be worried about that because I have insurance on my phone and use at least once or twice during a phones contract period due to my carelessness. Although I think they might still honor a insurance claim, I'm almost sure they won't do a warranty claim from those circumstances.
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Loving my cappy still, but wish it had a forward facing camera and a flash. The GPS is better than it used to be due to some tweaks here and there. I also just installed the Telenav free version for the vibrant 4g and going to give it a jog this week on a road trip to see how it does.
Apex 8.2 w/Dark Core 2.9 & Tegrak OC to 1.2ghz
Wait for it
Sell your cappy off ebay, buy SGSII. 700-200=+500. Get ready to cough up some ca$h.
I'll be getting it for sure. I currently have the captivate, infuse and inspire, I bought the inspire off craigslist for $200 and gave it to my gf. Her upgrade is up in August so she'll probably buy the gs2 and ill see captivate and inspire for $500 I hope and pick up the galaxy.
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I'm looking to move to Verizon (for coverage reasons - I travel in the rural midwest and plains and have issues with AT&T coverage).
I currently have a Samsung Captivate, running a Gingerbread custom rom. I have no desire to get another Samsung phone - there post release ROM development is non-existent. Don't get me started.
It seems that all of the Android phones currently on Verizon have some issue (from my perspective), but the closest to being a good all-around smartphone is the Thunderbolt.
The primary issue with the TBolt is battery life (from what I can tell).
Here's my question:
Using a stock battery and running a custom rom is it reasonable to get 14 hours of battery life with the following usage:
- 2 hours talk time
- 1 hour email
- 30 minutes web browsing
- 1 hour streaming music (OK, I could do without this)
[edit] From browsing the TBolt Dev Forums, I am leaning towards the Cl3anTh3ory ROM. [/edit]
I would have 2 email accounts - 1 GMail, set up for push notification, 1 IMAP that would poll every 30 min (using K9). I have 6 GCal's to sync and just over 300 contacts.
If I can get 14 hours, here's a follow up question: would you personally wait for the next round of phones to be announced (Sept and Oct) or would you go ahead with a TBolt for $69 (from Amazon with 2 yr contract)?
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Any future HTC released for Verizon is going to have the same basic guts as an EVO 3D with LTE. At this point, the Tbolt is right in the prime of development. The newer bases are much better in every area and I have no problems getting the kind of life you need doing a bit more than what your asking. My setup is in my sig. Being mostly on cdma, as it sounds like you would be, will stretch your battery even further. And if the stock battery doesn't do the job, the 1750mAh unit that's the same size certainly will.
More than possible. Check out gingeritis 3d and chingys 7/17 radio leak. I get over 24+ hours with average use
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Using custom roms, definitely
id wait for the tbolt successor or the gs2 to come tbh.
myself, I would probably wait and see what htc announces next, or maybe the bionic if it ever hits the shelves. Depending on those releases, yeah the tbolt is a great phone that should meet your needs. It's not hard for me to swap batteries if needed, but with the newer roms, battery life is improving.
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myself, I would probably wait and see what htc announces next, or maybe the bionic if it ever hits the shelves. Depending on those releases, yeah the tbolt is a great phone that should meet your needs. It's not hard for me to swap batteries if needed, but with the newer roms, battery life is improving.
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by the time the bionic comes it will be outdated. verizon waits too long to release phones.
I'm assuming the bionic will have locked boot loaders, which a deal breaker for me. Also, not sure about a 4.5" screen... I actually prefer 4", but can live with 4.3". But 4.5"? Guess it depends on overall device size and weight.
It'd possible on monolithth3ory or cl3anth3ory.
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It'd possible on monolithth3ory or cl3anth3ory.
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Those are not the only two ROMs that get that life.
Come on off the bandwagon.
this is the best phone ever, and ive went through alot.. sure people complain about this and that. but ultimately imho i think its the best verizon phone hands down and built rock solid (physically) and great dev support, i bought the extended battery and never looked back.. my only problem is which theory rom to run sense or aosp lol.. but i think from att to verizon + LTE would be a great upgrade for you =]
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this is the best phone ever, and ive went through alot.. sure people complain about this and that. but ultimately imho i think its the best verizon phone hands down and built rock solid (physically) and great dev support, i bought the extended battery and never looked back.. my only problem is which theory rom to run sense or aosp lol.. but i think from att to verizon + LTE would be a great upgrade for you =]
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AT&T is no competition to Verizon.
They lack the customer service and the network to compete.
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I'm assuming the bionic will have locked boot loaders, which a deal breaker for me. Also, not sure about a 4.5" screen... I actually prefer 4", but can live with 4.3". But 4.5"? Guess it depends on overall device size and weight.
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The only phones rumored to have larger than 4.3" screens so far are 2 Samsung phones, and they are expected to be similar to the size of current 4.3" phones because the extra screen size will most likely be in the area of the current buttons at the bottom since ice cream sandwich will not need them. The Bionic has been confirmed to be 4.3"
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this is the best phone ever, and ive went through alot.. sure people complain about this and that. but ultimately imho i think its the best verizon phone hands down and built rock solid (physically) and great dev support, i bought the extended battery and never looked back.. my only problem is which theory rom to run sense or aosp lol.. but i think from att to verizon + LTE would be a great upgrade for you =]
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Where I travel on business, there is really no comparison. Verizon's coverage is sooooo much better. Thanks for the thoughts on the tb hardware.
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AT&T is no competition to Verizon.
They lack the customer service and the network to compete.
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Agreed. Although I haven't really had major issues with customer service.
I have pretty much the same use as you and I am getting about 1 1/2 days out of my phone. sometimes 2 days between charges and I am on stock battery. '
I am running the monolithth3ory rom and it is great so far. I also have ultimate juice defender running.
so get it, root it, and love it! I sure do