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OK folks,
I have been a member follower of these groups for a longtime now. I love the android environment. I bought a charge yesterday that is giving me problems. I have not even begun to hack and am having lockups, robot voice, slow response, etc.
I have just factory reset before I take it back but wanted to know what the groups feel about the 2. I am looking for opinions with a reason. Please don't flame either device or me.
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I'm actually thinking about getting a charge. The product designer needs to get fired for making the tbolt. Not enough testing was done and it surprises me.
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Honestly if you can live without the charges screen, id go with the thunderbolt. In my opinion it has much better build quality, and the dev. support behind it is amazing, and will only get better with time. I dont think as many devs. will jump ship to the charge seeing how it isnt that much different then the fascinate. But thats just my two sense, both are great phones either way and are going to have their quirks.
def thunderbolt. faster, more support so far on xda sites, and samsung has been lazy with their updates..
Last week when I finally switched from Sprint to Verizon, I literally played with working models of the Thunderbolt and the Charge in the VZ store for 45min. I played with the app drawers,apps themselves,the cameras,hell I could probably have told you how many squares were on the back of the Charges battery case. After the 45 min there, I went to Best Buy and played with non working models for another 30 min (im VERY indecisive when it comes to new phones). I only went there because of my Silver reward zone membership and I had money off from the Zone rewards. In the end I chose the TBolt. I was very accustomed to Sense for one coming from my Evo for almost a year, and while sure the Charge as the Super Amoled screen, I like the screen on the Tbolt more. Touchwiz felt like a childrens coloring book in terms of the range of colors used opposed to Sense. The TBolt also feels good when held,actually feels like a phone while the Charge felt like a cheaply manufactured toy with a UI to match.
I read one review that I ended up agreeing with that said "The Droid Charge isnt worthy of the "Droid" name at all. Its nothing more then a Galaxy S class phone and Verizon needed a Droid branded 4G phone,so they slapped it on that (LTE radio) and bam, the DROID charge
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Last week when I finally switched from Sprint to Verizon, I literally played with working models of the Thunderbolt and the Charge in the VZ store for 45min. I played with the app drawers,apps themselves,the cameras,hell I could probably have told you how many squares were on the back of the Charges battery case. After the 45 min there, I went to Best Buy and played with non working models for another 30 min (im VERY indecisive when it comes to new phones). I only went there because of my Silver reward zone membership and I had money off from the Zone rewards. In the end I chose the TBolt. I was very accustomed to Sense for one coming from my Evo for almost a year, and while sure the Charge as the Super Amoled screen, I like the screen on the Tbolt more. Touchwiz felt like a childrens coloring book in terms of the range of colors used opposed to Sense. The TBolt also feels good when held,actually feels like a phone while the Charge felt like a cheaply manufactured toy with a UI to match.
I read one review that I ended up agreeing with that said "The Droid Charge isnt worthy of the "Droid" name at all. Its nothing more then a Galaxy S class phone and Verizon needed a Droid branded 4G phone,so they slapped it on that (LTE radio) and bam, the DROID charge
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I kinda feel the same way about the Thunderbolt TBH. I've had mine since Tuesday (the Thunderbolt), and I am really disappointed with Verizon's 4g initial lineup. The whole thing feels like Verizon had to rush there LTE network out, by annoucing it last year when they did (what Nov or Dec) and then they had to force out LTE phones, and none of them seem ready. I feel like we are all there test subjects, the problem is this isn't a test environment, and they are making some serious cash off the tests...
I am still torn on what to do. I have basically another 12 days before my 14 days left and I might switch to the charge within then.
Then again it doesn't matter for me...as LTE won't be in my area til later this year (as only based on Verizon press releases), I am only going this route to try for the grandfathered LTE...and kinda made up my mind this is the last phone I will ever buy on contract...
Go with the N64....
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Go with the N64....
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I would buy a 4G mobile nintento 64. i would also fail every class ever because of super smash bros and mario kart
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I would buy a 4G mobile nintento 64. i would also fail every class ever because of super smash bros and mario kart
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There is a n64 emulator on the market. I love it.
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Main reason I didn't go with the charge, is because I had the fascinate. And Samsung's customer service, and updates for the phone are almost non existent. I will never go back to Samsung because of that fact. HTC is great about keeping there phones up to date. Just my 2 cents.
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Main reason I didn't go with the charge, is because I had the fascinate. And Samsung's customer service, and updates for the phone are almost non existent. I will never go back to Samsung because of that fact. HTC is great about keeping there phones up to date. Just my 2 cents.
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Yeah, Samsung has a long way to go in terms of US software support before I'll own another one. I went android for the development community and no or long delayed updates/source code stifles development. Heck, most of the developers won't even touch a Samsung device.
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Honestly if you can live without the charges screen, id go with the thunderbolt. In my opinion it has much better build quality, and the dev. support behind it is amazing, and will only get better with time. I dont think as many devs. will jump ship to the charge seeing how it isnt that much different then the fascinate. But thats just my two sense, both are great phones either way and are going to have their quirks.
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I could not have said it better myself. It's a great phone, and with all the dev support behind it, it will only continue to improve. T-bolt all the way.
I'm not a fan of the physical buttons on the Charge, and while Samsung was on the list of companies who would consistently update their devices at Google I/O, I'll have to see it before I believe it.
love my thunderbolt, hate the battery, but love the phone.
love my tb and the way the charge feels.. all plastic and they want 300? I would pass plus look who makes it.
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love my thunderbolt, hate the battery, but love the phone.
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I feel the same. Phone is awesome, but battery sucks so much Coo-Low.
I got bamf remix 1.6.3 with the 4.7.7 kernel and while the battery is much better now when on standby, if i start using my 4g is like my battery has a leak... drains so fast.
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I kinda feel the same way about the Thunderbolt TBH. I've had mine since Tuesday (the Thunderbolt), and I am really disappointed with Verizon's 4g initial lineup. The whole thing feels like Verizon had to rush there LTE network out, by annoucing it last year when they did (what Nov or Dec) and then they had to force out LTE phones, and none of them seem ready. I feel like we are all there test subjects, the problem is this isn't a test environment, and they are making some serious cash off the tests...
I am still torn on what to do. I have basically another 12 days before my 14 days left and I might switch to the charge within then.
Then again it doesn't matter for me...as LTE won't be in my area til later this year (as only based on Verizon press releases), I am only going this route to try for the grandfathered LTE...and kinda made up my mind this is the last phone I will ever buy on contract...
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Yeah I still have 6 days left in my trial,but im liking it so far. Only issues I have are signal strength. Guess I LIKE seeing full bars but in my house,backyard even, I sit at 0-2 tops. Tho my area is slated in the new June 16 LTE rollout (Menomonee Falls WI), im still on the fence because of the little to no bars issue. This is strange tho because even with this, I can get 1.9-2mb download speeds on speedtest lol
reason's to buy the thunderbolt:
(1) the charge is cheap plastic
(2) it took team cyanogen forever to get sammy phones to run CM
(3) touchwiz vs sense isn't nearly a fair fight
the thunderbolt is heavy, but it's a solid "i'm a $250 on contract phone" heavy
Thunderbolt..just the battery blows. but from stats and everything ive read id go TB
I wouldnt buy a samsung made phone other than the Galaxy S2 or Nexus S. The former wont be out on verizon until probably winter sometime and the later probably never will be (but you could buy the version made for sprint and probably activate it for use with verizon).
so i've got an att nexus one right now, been using that and a captivate, the screen on the captivate is excellent especially in sunlight but the browsers slow and it doesnt run gingerbread roms right now too well either.
I'm considering picking up an Inspire cause i like htc build quality, the screen is larger than the nexus one and it seems faster than both the captivate and nexus one, which are both pretty fast for what they are.
Was wondering if you guys could tell me if they've fixed the issue with "4g" and what the connection is like for you guys as im usually not on wifi, what battery life is like and how you guys are coping with the screen.
i dont know if you guys have compared it to the samsung or iphone screens but it just wanes in comparison. these are the 3 things holding me back from the purchase, right now just looking for something to hold me off till the new dual core wave comes crashing on in
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so i've got an att nexus one right now, been using that and a captivate, the screen on the captivate is excellent especially in sunlight but the browsers slow and it doesnt run gingerbread roms right now too well either.
I'm considering picking up an Inspire cause i like htc build quality, the screen is larger than the nexus one and it seems faster than both the captivate and nexus one, which are both pretty fast for what they are.
Was wondering if you guys could tell me if they've fixed the issue with "4g" and what the connection is like for you guys as im usually not on wifi, what battery life is like and how you guys are coping with the screen.
i dont know if you guys have compared it to the Samsung or iPhone screens but it just wanes in comparison. these are the 3 things holding me back from the purchase, right now just looking for something to hold me off till the new dual core wave comes crashing on in
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When comparing anything its going to boil down to personal preference. I have had the iPhone 3g, 3gs, 4 and the Samsung captivate. I am happy with the inspire. More so then with the captivate I had gps issues and the random power down problem. And don't really miss the iPhone because i enjoy the ability to customize android and the larger screen (I also had all my phones jailbroken). In my area the "4g" connection isn't really any better then 3g. But really that's going to depend on your area. What "4g" issue are you referring to?
I personally do not like the Samsungs.. they seem to be a little more square for my taste. I love my inspire.. now Radioshack is going to start selling a red inspire instead of the standard color one. I love sense so that's why I went with an HTC
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What "4g" issue are you referring to?
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Probably the AT&T "4G*" vs "4G LTE" issue.
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Probably the AT&T "4G*" vs "4G LTE" issue.
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That's not an issue though. Nothing is broken or not working properly. It's just the way ATT is marketing its "4g".
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When comparing anything its going to boil down to personal preference. I have had the iPhone 3g, 3gs, 4 and the Samsung captivate. I am happy with the inspire. More so then with the captivate I had gps issues and the random power down problem. And don't really miss the iPhone because i enjoy the ability to customize android and the larger screen (I also had all my phones jailbroken). In my area the "4g" connection isn't really any better then 3g. But really that's going to depend on your area. What "4g" issue are you referring to?
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i meant for a while they didnt have the 4g antennas activated in the atrix and inspire and only recently made them usuable through an update but some were reporting no differences in speed and some found the iphone 4 almost twice as fast. i put the 4g in quotes for the lte argument yes
I think im going to throw miui on the inspire, its my favorite rom for all android phones, its like the best of both worlds, the simplicity and organization of an iphone with the customization and widgets of android.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=969436
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i meant for a while they didnt have the 4g antennas activated in the atrix and inspire and only recently made them usuable through an update but some were reporting no differences in speed and some found the iphone 4 almost twice as fast. i put the 4g in quotes for the lte argument yes
I think im going to throw miui on the inspire, its my favorite rom for all android phones, its like the best of both worlds, the simplicity and organization of an iphone with the customization and widgets of android.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=969436
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Ok I think you miss understood what was going on with the "4g" they were not allowing the "4g" upload connection. That's all the update changed was upload capability. So that you could get "4g" upload speeds. Nothing with download connection or speed changed.
Speed always is determined on how closely are to a tower and of that tower actually supports 4g(hspa+). Most people right now won't see a big difference because hspa+ is relatively new. Personaly I get 6Mbps down such I believe is very good. BTW you cannot even compare this phone to an iPhone, it just blows it put of the water (4. 3 inch screen that is absolutely stunning for only being "super lcd", the flexibility of the Android OS is just insane, battery life is okay on stock but with the right ROM it can last well over a day, almost no defects-except battery cover issue wich has been fixed- and the amazing quality of the. Phone itself.
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Personally, if I were in your position with a functional Captivate, I would stick with it for awhile as you wont see much improvement from the HTC Inspire 4G (unless you are dying to have HTC sense).
I can tell you, I came from the captivate to the inspire for two specific reasons:
1. My captivate had crummy gps and a not-so responsive back button
2. I'm an HTC fanboy
Although I'm happy with my decision, it's mainly because of the working GPS and back button. Here are the items I miss most from my captivate:
1. Touchwiz core apps. Samsungs Calendar, Clock/Alarm, contacts, and other core apps are just flat out better in my opinion. (HTC Sense is nice, and works somewhat well, but I really don't actually 'use' the widgets much at all, and I had the exact same kinds of widgets for my cappy if i wanted them.)
2. The screen on the captivate is most definitely better, and could also lead to better battery life.
As for "radio performance," I travel a lot in PA, DE, MD, DC, and VA... And I haven't noticed any better radio performance or specifically; no real speed increases from my captivate (with Cognition from back around january, haha). Amazingly, I'm trying out different radios now, because my inspire performs worse with the new ATT OTA - 06.06.30_M radio (much higher ping = 500ms to 1,500ms) and about the same speeds most of the time. Sometimes I get nice upload or download speeds, but it's so random at the moment I just want more consistent low ping for noticably better web page loading, syncing, etc. I don't often download MB's of data unless I'm getting a new app or downloading a podcast (which I can wait a few more seconds for, seriously).
In the end, it boils down to personal preference. I was able to explain my GPS and back button issues to AT&T in order to get upgrade eligability, so it made sense (ended up selling the Captivate to someone via craigslist). If you plan on paying more than the usual <$100 for the Inspire, I would stick with your captivate for the contract period.
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Personally, if I were in your position with a functional Captivate, I would stick with it for awhile as you wont see much improvement from the HTC Inspire 4G (unless you are dying to have HTC sense).
I can tell you, I came from the captivate to the inspire for two specific reasons:
1. My captivate had crummy gps and a not-so responsive back button
2. I'm an HTC fanboy
Although I'm happy with my decision, it's mainly because of the working GPS and back button. Here are the items I miss most from my captivate:
1. Touchwiz core apps. Samsungs Calendar, Clock/Alarm, contacts, and other core apps are just flat out better in my opinion. (HTC Sense is nice, and works somewhat well, but I really don't actually 'use' the widgets much at all, and I had the exact same kinds of widgets for my cappy if i wanted them.)
2. The screen on the captivate is most definitely better, and could also lead to better battery life.
As for "radio performance," I travel a lot in PA, DE, MD, DC, and VA... And I haven't noticed any better radio performance or specifically; no real speed increases from my captivate (with Cognition from back around january, haha). Amazingly, I'm trying out different radios now, because my inspire performs worse with the new ATT OTA - 06.06.30_M radio (much higher ping = 500ms to 1,500ms) and about the same speeds most of the time. Sometimes I get nice upload or download speeds, but it's so random at the moment I just want more consistent low ping for noticably better web page loading, syncing, etc. I don't often download MB's of data unless I'm getting a new app or downloading a podcast (which I can wait a few more seconds for, seriously).
In the end, it boils down to personal preference. I was able to explain my GPS and back button issues to AT&T in order to get upgrade eligability, so it made sense (ended up selling the Captivate to someone via craigslist). If you plan on paying more than the usual <$100 for the Inspire, I would stick with your captivate for the contract period.
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i havent bought a phone on contract since my 3gs 2 years ago my contract expires in a couple weeks considering moving to tmobile and getting a sensation 4g. I wish they'd come out with an iphone for tmobile already cause honestly i intend to get the new iphone when it comes out. But i just purchased an inspire, something to mess with while waiting for some new stuff to pop up. i think the only downfall is really the screen, battery life isnt great on anything i've tried aside from the iphone 4 which has lasted me 3days with minimal use.
This phone is great! Enough said. Dev support... Is awesome! As far as 4G I get 6 to 7mbps. My brother has t-mobile there same HSPA + yeilds him 2-3mbps. 3g on AT&T
Gets me those same speeds
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i havent bought a phone on contract since my 3gs 2 years ago my contract expires in a couple weeks considering moving to tmobile and getting a sensation 4g. I wish they'd come out with an iphone for tmobile already cause honestly i intend to get the new iphone when it comes out. But i just purchased an inspire, something to mess with while waiting for some new stuff to pop up. i think the only downfall is really the screen, battery life isnt great on anything i've tried aside from the iphone 4 which has lasted me 3days with minimal use.
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I guess the screen battery drain would suck If I needed this as a phone. I use mine as a toy. Internet, games, Texting, Facebook...I may have made a call/received one on it 3 weeks ago. Not sure its been so long. lol At work I have a direct ext. and at home I have a landline. So yeah. Heh
AT&T is going to release a dual core htc phone sometimes in the future from what i heard, HTC Holiday, if u can wait, why not save a few bucks, although Inspire 4g is a sick phone, and there are many great rom you can flash.
good luck !
I've been thinking about getting an Inspire also. I've never owned any touchscreen phone in the past, so I've been doing quite a bit of reading about them lately. From reading the inspire forums everyone that owns one seems to really like it. Is there another phone for att even being considered as the best? I looked at the Infuse, but seems like most folks don't really like the sammy ui's and its gigantic. I also read that the battery life was pretty bad. When you guys say the battery life is disappointing on the Inspire with stock roms, how bad is it? Can I expect to get 12-15 hours out of it just with normal usage (few phone calls, some texting, light browsing)? Some of the posts I read here make it sound as if I should only expect 8 hours or so stock.
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I've been thinking about getting an Inspire also. I've never owned any touchscreen phone in the past, so I've been doing quite a bit of reading about them lately. From reading the inspire forums everyone that owns one seems to really like it. Is there another phone for att even being considered as the best? I looked at the Infuse, but seems like most folks don't really like the sammy ui's and its gigantic. I also read that the battery life was pretty bad. When you guys say the battery life is disappointing on the Inspire with stock roms, how bad is it? Can I expect to get 12-15 hours out of it just with normal usage (few phone calls, some texting, light browsing)? Some of the posts I read here make it sound as if I should only expect 8 hours or so stock.
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the infuse is quite lightweight, and the screen is nice, its not a bad phone, why not get one and if you dont like it, return it within 2 weeks or switch to inspire, i think you have 2 weeks
and the best way to fix a battery issue is buying an other charger
I'm considering trying to get the phone used, and avoid re-contracting with att. If I end up going that route then I cant test drive any phones. I do like the front facing camera and was originally attracted to it because of that. However it is quite a bit more expensive atm. I'm looking for the best value for money and so far the inspire fits, just a bit worried about the battery life.
then you are gonna love the inspire for the money you spend, in my own opinion.
honestly i feel that the battery is not as good as it can be, but i still get about 14 hours out of it and i use my phone ALOT!
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then you are gonna love the inspire for the money you spend, in my own opinion.
honestly i feel that the battery is not as good as it can be, but i still get about 14 hours out of it and i use my phone ALOT!
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Is that with the stock rom?
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Is that with the stock rom?
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no , right now im running leedroid and o/c'd to 1.5ghz, i am waiting for the v6.8 coredroid
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no , right now im running leedroid and o/c'd to 1.5ghz, i am waiting for the v6.8 coredroid
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Well I guess if im unhappy with stock battery performance I can rely on flashing to get me what I need. I can live with 14 hours, and I'm not really a "power user" so I may bet able to get a bit more out of it.
I'm with att and im up for an upgrade. I currently have the inspire unlocked and rooted and I love it but I always like new toys. Was thinking about getting the samsung galaxy s II. What do you guys think? anybody made the move from the inspire to the sII yet? How is it?
I love the big screen on the inspire but the short battery life is starting to annoy me a little because I am a heavy user.
There's plenty of folks that have. I personally, am awaiting the Holiday/Raider.
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I love the big screen on the inspire but the short battery life is starting to annoy me a little because I am a heavy user.
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That's android for ya dude,
lol im sure there are android phones with better battery life then the inspire out there.
Tx Redneck, is there any offical date for raider? I googled and it sounds like a great phone but most of it seems to be rumors. I love my HTC's tho.
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lol im sure there are android phones with better battery life then the inspire out there.
Tx Redneck, is there any offical date for raider? I googled and it sounds like a great phone but most of it seems to be rumors. I love my HTC's tho.
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Do a little research. Android phones have been known to be crap on battery. The more we ask the phones to do the less battery they will have. Look in the other forums for Tue newer devices and you will see an average of about a day maybe a little more but that's about it. Hell the new dual core are showing 18 with minor use
I hear that the galaxy supposedly has pretty good battery life compared to the inspire. I guess its just different from different sources.
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I hear that the galaxy supposedly has pretty good battery life compared to the inspire. I guess its just different from different sources.
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It also depends on how you use it. I have a buddy that has he galaxy s II and he gets about a day out of it with mild use. The only way to tell is to get it and see how it stands up to how you use it.
The days of phones lasting days without charge are long gone so charging every night is expected and accepted
I'm ok with it lasting 1 day, the problem is to get it to last the whole day lol.
I use apps like veetle, hulu, fb, and pandora and from what I heard the samsung screen requires less battery then the lcd on the inspire so hopefully that would work to my benefit.
I'm not sure yet if I should get it or wait till the end of the year and see if at&t gets something interesting because these upgrades only come around so often.
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I'm ok with it lasting 1 day, the problem is to get it to last the whole day lol.
I use apps like veetle, hulu, fb, and pandora and from what I heard the samsung screen requires less battery then the lcd on the inspire so hopefully that would work to my benefit.
I'm not sure yet if I should get it or wait till the end of the year and see if at&t gets something interesting because these upgrades only come around so often.
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I cant say for sure as the SMOLD screen on the captivate used a ton more battery then my inspire. I would wait If i were you but that is just me. The screen on the Captivate was not enough for me to keep it so I traded it for the Inspire and after seeing the galaxy s II I wasnt really impressed. I am waiting on the the next good HTC. Ill never use a samsung phone again.
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There's plenty of folks that have. I personally, am awaiting the Holiday/Raider.
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I think that device is coming as the HTC vivid. One AT&T's Two LTE phones.
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From what I've heard the HTC phones are harder on the battery than other manufacturers because Sense is such a hog. But there's always ways around that (root)
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From what I've heard the HTC phones are harder on the battery than other manufacturers because Sense is such a hog. But there's always ways around that (root)
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Yeah sense is a resource hog indeed but with the right tweaks it can be onenof the best over all UI as it all works together seemlessly. I run a senseless rom my self as i have my fav 3rd party apps for launcher, messaging, email and stuff so other then the dialer and contacts app witch is the best dialer/contacts combo I have come across. But it is about the same as the TouchWiz from Samsung or motoblur from Motorola.
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lol im sure there are android phones with better battery life then the inspire out there.
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lol yeah there are a few. My last phone was an inspire and I picked up a gs2 a couple of weeks ago. My battery life has over doubled using the same habits. moderate/light use I can get 2 days, I never ever thought that would be possible on an android. My gs2 has better battery life than my friggin iphone. I have allot of phones and the inspire might be the worst battery life of any of them, but I still love that *****. I actually traded one of my inspires for a focus, but wp7 has some serious growing up to do before I make the switch full time.
Not trying to **** on the inspire and not trying to sway your decision. The new htc looks crazy nice, but I have yet to use it so I have no comment. The things I will be looking at closely on it are cell reception, battery life, glass fit, and of course a usable speaker. Those issues caused me to leave htc, for the first time in a while I might add. Here's to hoping the new holiday is all that and a bag of chips.
If your just looking for an htc then I would say screw it and get the holiday, but if your not married to one brand I would go to the stores and use the phones. Read online in the forums about issues and complaints and pick the phone that best suites your likes and needs. buying on launch day is just gonna make you one of the guinea pigs, which is fine with some like myself.
In my opinion the gs2 is a better buy than the new skyrocket due to screen size and the cpu. I dont have lte here and would rather have the horsepower and smaller screen, 4.3" is plenty big especially at that resolution. The new atrix 2 looks pretty nice to, but I havent messed with it that much. THe new motopoop is much much lighter than the last. And unlike the first atrix, it doesnt lag like hell out of the box, gingerbread was a God send for the first one. Happy hunting
My Inspire battery is pretty good. I charge it at night and go to work. I'm on WiFi all day at work and frequently check fb and other things. Even some YouTube or Pandora. When I get off I put it on my carcharger for the 15 min ride home and that's it till bedtime. Wasn't great though till I got advance task killer. I kill pretty much everything bout every hour or so now its pretty good.
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I have never owned a Tbolt... I've owned the Charge, Bionic, DX, and now the Rezound. As many of you are probably aware, the Rezound is a great phone but it still has no true dev support to get the bootloader unlocked, and I miss flashing ROMs and such. I know someone who has their Tbolt for sale and it's very tempting for me to buy it and just hold on to the Rezound until proper dev support happens, IF it happens. But I need something to hold me over for now. Maybe I'll just return the Rezound and buy the Tbolt until the next batch of 4G phones come out. Who knows.
My question is simply this... how's the Tbolt holding up for as old as it is? I see there's a lot of support here and some awesome ROMs.
To be honest, and this is my opinion only. The Tbolt to me happens to be one of the best phones on verizon still. From everything I have looked at, there is no phone that has everything the Tbolt has. Yes there are dual core now or 1.5 ghz phones but you dont get the whole package the tbolt has. Still love that you can surf and talk on both 3g & 4g (i dont think they have any other phone that does that, but I could be wrong)
I personally have never experienced any issue with my phone that others have posted. Its always worked except when verizon data is down and its solid. The phone has received 5 updates since release (9 months) and that is impressive to me that they are still looking at the phone and sending patches for it.
I am fine waiting till my upgrade around 11/12. This phone has been fine for me..
The dev community is awesome and there is alot of support right now.... The Devs rock...
I've read so many posts about the bolt being "the red headed step child". After seeing Lindsay Lohan in playboy, I'm fine with that analogy. I have ZERO complaints from battery life to performance. There are sense 2.1,3.0 and two variations of 3.5. We have CM7 and several variations of it as well as MIUI. ICS is being worked on by some incredibly motivated and devoted devs, it's only a matter of time. Grab a Rezound battery, root and reap the benefits of the best 4g community there is (for now). Even though I haven't spend substantial time with any of the new phones, none have grabbed my eye. Besides dual core there haven't been drastic changes IMO, and dual core will be trumped by quad core in a few months. I've owned the OG DROID and now the Tbolt and I can't come up with a complaint for either....
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Awesome thanks guys. I wanted to grab a Tbolt when I returned my Charge to Costco but I read about the call quality being hit or miss, so it's a crap shoot with the phone I might be buying.
The only thing that prevents me from returning the Rezound is the fact that I sold the Beats headphones that came with it, lol. So I have to find another pair, undo my red button modification and send it back to the store since I bought it after they launched their "holiday return policy".
I am a former thunderbolt owner and have nothing but good things to say about it. My wife is using and running soab. I have a nexus but actually miss the thunderbolt in many ways. The radio is much better and I miss sense. I don't think you could go wrong buying this phone although development has definitely slowed.
If this gets ice cream sandwich it should be relevant for a lot longer
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Bought a like-new Tbolt last night, should be here by Saturday... just in time for Christmas!
I'll use it for now and if the Rezound doesn't get S-off by the time Verizon's holiday return policy ends, it goes back for good. If it does happen, then I'll hand the Tbolt off to my girlfriend. Win/win for everyone.
I've had my Tbolt since march 2011 and ive had no problems from the phone. everything still works flawlessly, despite my meddling and screwing things up a little =P. its not as flashy as the newer phones, but its beyond exeptional in terms of quality of use.
The TB I bought back in March has been working great, a few months ago I picked up the extended battery for it and while it's much more bulky, I can do whatever I want on the phone all day long without having to worry about the battery dying. The dev support has been great, I don't believe any other phone for VZW other then the new Nexus has had as much dev support behind it.
I'm confident in the radio in the phone I'm getting, the guy had a pic of his phone with FULL 4G signal and he lives in Wilmington, NC. It's not often that you see all bars lit up in a 4G area, so that's great. Screen looked perfect with no scratches, he said he's never had an issue with it... can't complain on the price I got it for either.
I'll admit, if I end up returning the Rezound I am going to miss the excellent call quality, the beautiful screen, the sheer speed even with Sense and bloat installed... makes me want to hold onto it anyway and wait for s-off, then switch back to it. Even if it's a couple of months from now. I did pay full price for it though...
I've had a number of VZW smartphones over the last few years (Moto Q, Moto Q9m, Samsung Saga, BB Pearl, BB Curve, BB Bold, HTC Droid Eris, HTC Thunderbolt) and so far the Thunderbolt has by far been my favorite. My only complaint was battery life (only getting around a day with heavy use), but as long as I get a full day, I don't care too much. It's a little bulky (compared to my Eris), but once you get use to the screen size it's hard to use anything else. Finally, it has a great modding community, and is relatively simple to mod these days. I would definitely recommend this smartphone to anyone with Verizon.
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I'm confident in the radio in the phone I'm getting, the guy had a pic of his phone with FULL 4G signal and he lives in Wilmington, NC. It's not often that you see all bars lit up in a 4G area, so that's great.
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Just to advise, the bars have nothing to do with 4G. The bars are voice signal strength indicators for cell service. the only indicator of 4G service is the 4G symbol..
You can have no bars and have great 4G service...
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Just to advise, the bars have nothing to do with 4G. The bars are voice signal strength indicators for cell service. the only indicator of 4G service is the 4G symbol..
You can have no bars and have great 4G service...
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That's true, just feeling hopeful is all
I have owned my Thunderbolt since March 2011 and have had no issues. I really like this phone and have not even been tempted yet to look around at other phones. It has the perverbial buttload of features and I often wonder why it became the "red headed stepchild".. yeah there were issues at first that HTC/Verizon had to deal with but now that they are in the past, I think this is one of the better phones in the arsenal.
Mine is rooted and custom rom'ed .. no bloatware with my choice of everything possible instead of what Big Red tells me I want and that has a lot to do with why I like my phone.
I say if you can get a good deal then get one.
Got my Tbolt today, so far the phone is running great. No issues with anything at all on the latest OTA update. Not as quick or as beautiful as the Rezound, but I can manage easily.
Thunderbolt is a very good phone. Support(NotVZW) is great. Once i rooted the phone I can't put it down. The phone is stable, relatively quick and compared to newer phone smaller.
It's a great phone, but it seems all the devs are concentrating on the g nex now. Hopefully they don't forget about the bolt.
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It's a great phone, but it seems all the devs are concentrating on the g nex now. Hopefully they don't forget about the bolt.
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Excellent phone, hopefully they come out with a very good ICS rom soon.
I got a thunderbolt from cowboom.com tonight for $138 shipped and 30 day return policy. Used coupon code Holiday15 for 15% off only good until tonight (the 25th).
Ill be swicthing from a DX.
Does it cost extra for 4g?
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I've had my bolt since the day it came out and still loving it. I don't plan to change until quad core phones become the standard, cause IMO, dual core will be obsolete soon.
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I've had my bolt since the day it came out and still loving it. I don't plan to change until quad core phones become the standard, cause IMO, dual core will be obsolete soon.
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+1 Quadcore will replace dualcore in less than 4 months.
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Hey everyone,
My contract with AT&T just expired and I may switch to Verizon to go for the Galaxy Nexus or Razor Maxx. However, I like the Galaxy SII that AT&T only offers. I currently have a Captivate and love it. I just want to know if anyone has any opinions on the SGSII or Nexus. Thanks
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Hey everyone,
My contract with AT&T just expired and I may switch to Verizon to go for the Galaxy Nexus or Razor Maxx. However, I like the Galaxy SII that AT&T only offers. I currently have a Captivate and love it. I just want to know if anyone has any opinions on the SGSII or Nexus. Thanks
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I still have my captivate but it just collects dust after getting my att sgs2. I'm pretty unsure why you would even have to consider upgrading to a phone that is 100 times better then the captivate.
Well the Captivate was the first Android I had and it's so versatile. And I see developers are porting ICS for it. But I can't argue with the power and awesomeness of the SGS2
if I were you I would try an ics ROM. I would recommend docs Master ics (v3.1)
My cappy is blazing fast. I'm talking 0 lag!
MC 3 runs completely smooth with not a hint of stutter or lag. That's with no over clocking! When I oc/live oc it with nstools, I can get it up to 1500mghz.
Run it for a while and wait for the sgs 3.
Hope this helps you on your decision.
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I'm loving ICS and the anker battery on the cappy, it changed my decision on wanting to upgrade now. My upgrade was eligible last Oct, but I holding out till summer when all the quad-cores come out (I HOPE!!).
Yea, I guess waiting is always an option, especially if more powerful phones are still to come! I'll look more into ICS and see what I can do, I'm on Serendipity 7 right now and it's pretty laggy, at least for me.
I went from a Captivate running S7 to a SGSII. To say the SGSII blows away the Captivate is an understatement. I have felt zero need to even root the phone yet. It is great out of the box. Fast, stable, great battery life. Not one force close since I got it 6-7 weeks ago FYI, still running 2.3.4 Gingerbread. If you get one, don't update to 2.3.6. It has battery drain issues.
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FC out of the box was never an issue. Why anyone would buy a new phone that is only running GB is beyond me. If I was in a position to switch carriers I'd go with the Nexus, you're getting the good stuff that everyone else is just trying to catch up to.
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FC out of the box was never an issue. Why anyone would buy a new phone that is only running GB is beyond me. If I was in a position to switch carriers I'd go with the Nexus, you're getting the good stuff that everyone else is just trying to catch up to.
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Well isn't the sgs2 slated for an ICS upgrade? I know Samsung said that the captivate won't get ICS. And we all know how much of an ordeal it was just to get froyo, let alone gingerbread on it, so it'll probably be the same way for the sgs2, but it has better specs than the Nexus
If I were you I would upgrade in a heart beat. Hardware-wise the Captivate just can't compete with the dual-cores phone you mentioned. And the battery from the Maxx is a beast!
Keep in mind that AT&T is now charging doubled the upgrade fee (from $18 to $36). Switching to Verzion can easily get you free activation + free shipping via some online retailer in addition to their "Twice the data, same low price" data promo, which is quite a deal unless you got grandfathered with AT&T previous data plan.
I also loved the Galaxy S II, only downside is no 4G LTE with the exception of the Skyrocket. Rumor has it that Skyrocket HD is coming to AT&T, with a full 720p Super AMOLED screen upgrade from a 480x800. You might want to wait on that.
Just my two cents.
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I still have my captivate but it just collects dust after getting my att sgs2. I'm pretty unsure why you would even have to consider upgrading to a phone that is 100 times better then the captivate.
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What he said
I still love my C(r)aptivate. I loathed it something aweful because of the utterly fail GPS, but all-in-all it's still a fantastic phone. Seeing that I have the LG Thrill as my main phone(I use nav a lot and needed better gps or i wouldn't have) which just came out and is still on FROYO and a phone that came out last July already has Gingerbread...It's nice to know that it is still supported. A lot is to be said about not having a contract being held over your head too. Personally if I were you I would keep the Captivate and leave my options open. Some awesome phones will be coming out Q3 this year. I'm looking forward to the Tegra 3 powered HTC Endeavor. Bide your time and know you can jump ship to another carrier any time you choose. IMHO
Yea, the GPS was a huge fail, I actually sent back my first one because apparently the first manufactured devices were "defective" but even after I got a new one my GPS didn't improve much. The captivate is under powered, but it sounds like some pretty awesome phones are in the works and not having a contract allows for some breathing room. I guess I'll just see which carrier releases the most desirable phone in the next few months or so and go from there.
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I have felt zero need to even root the phone yet. It is great out of the box. Fast, stable, great battery life. Not one force close since I got it 6-7 weeks ago FYI, still running 2.3.4 Gingerbread.
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Really? No interests in customization? Cuz rooting the phone for reasons you listed is a rather poor use of root access... No such thing as "good" stock!
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The captivate is under powered,
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No it's not, if anything call it "outdated." The device is getting close to two years old! When it came out no one was honestly considering a PHONE having a dual-core CPU. In all honesty they don't need it! Quad-core is just ridicules... The ICS ROMs we have now show that the phone is by no means under powered.
As to the other idea, all I can say is that AT&T seems to be getting more and more greedy, their practices more sleazy... Or at least being faster to jump on ways to improve profits and reduce costs, of which we the customers are seeing no benefits...
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Improve profits and reduce costs as in raise rates and reduce services. Or Promise a technology, then abandon it before fruition. I liked the falsely advertising a technology ploy. I've been with this phone service since it was Cingular, which in my opinion was a far better company. It's been getting harder and harder to renew my contract. I find myself peering over the fence to see how green the grass is on the other side.
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Improve profits and reduce costs as in raise rates and reduce services. Or Promise a technology, then abandon it before fruition. I liked the falsely advertising a technology ploy. I've been with this phone service since it was Cingular, which in my opinion was a far better company. It's been getting harder and harder to renew my contract. I find myself peering over the fence to see how green the grass is on the other side.
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I know what you mean here... I've been with them since Cingular as well and I know the prices will go up over time, but their service hasn't improved one bit. One big bonus of Verizon is the coverage they have nationwide is FAR superior to AT&T's. When you have to sell a Microcell to imporve coverage in your customer's houses, you know you need to upgrade your service. Verizon will probably end up having the better LTE network too, as AT&T never went nationwide 3G, as Verizon did looong ago
I'm switching to Verizon as well in March. Why? Att and their throttling madness .I get throttle every month right around the 2gb mark 2 weeks into my billing cycle after that data is unusable. I just sold my Sgs2 skyrocket yesterday using the captivate until my contract is over .
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I got the captivate the second day the phone came out, so I have the phone with all the problems. I ALMOST upgraded to the SGS2, until teamhacksung's ICS rom came out. It runs so smoothly that it actually makes my captivate usable! I would suggest waiting for the SGS3; thats what I am doing. Why buy a phone that has been out for a long time (SGS2) when the upgrade is just around the corner!
No matter how good these ROMs get, it is impossible to fix my terrible GPS, connection dropping issues, battery drains, and random crashes.
I just read an article about the throttling and how inconsistent it is at various data limits. I just can't believe they get away with it. It just shows how inferior their network is to Verizon if Verizon can handle it smoothly. Yea the SGS3 is worth waiting for. I think I'm gonna try ICS on my Captivate for now and hopefully that will hold me long enough. I just hate that it doesn't have a front facing camera.
Cappy still rules!
1. On stock ROMs - they don't cut it. XDA matured to fix all bugs and shortcomings of manufacturer ROM.
2. May be skip AT&T upgrade alltogether? See what they did to GSII Skyrocket and Note? Bastardized and downgraded to Snapdragon old chip.
3. Get GSII from ebay, may be? It is around 500 now.