Should i buy an inspire? - HTC Inspire 4G

so i've got an att nexus one right now, been using that and a captivate, the screen on the captivate is excellent especially in sunlight but the browsers slow and it doesnt run gingerbread roms right now too well either.
I'm considering picking up an Inspire cause i like htc build quality, the screen is larger than the nexus one and it seems faster than both the captivate and nexus one, which are both pretty fast for what they are.
Was wondering if you guys could tell me if they've fixed the issue with "4g" and what the connection is like for you guys as im usually not on wifi, what battery life is like and how you guys are coping with the screen.
i dont know if you guys have compared it to the samsung or iphone screens but it just wanes in comparison. these are the 3 things holding me back from the purchase, right now just looking for something to hold me off till the new dual core wave comes crashing on in

thatg said:
so i've got an att nexus one right now, been using that and a captivate, the screen on the captivate is excellent especially in sunlight but the browsers slow and it doesnt run gingerbread roms right now too well either.
I'm considering picking up an Inspire cause i like htc build quality, the screen is larger than the nexus one and it seems faster than both the captivate and nexus one, which are both pretty fast for what they are.
Was wondering if you guys could tell me if they've fixed the issue with "4g" and what the connection is like for you guys as im usually not on wifi, what battery life is like and how you guys are coping with the screen.
i dont know if you guys have compared it to the Samsung or iPhone screens but it just wanes in comparison. these are the 3 things holding me back from the purchase, right now just looking for something to hold me off till the new dual core wave comes crashing on in
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When comparing anything its going to boil down to personal preference. I have had the iPhone 3g, 3gs, 4 and the Samsung captivate. I am happy with the inspire. More so then with the captivate I had gps issues and the random power down problem. And don't really miss the iPhone because i enjoy the ability to customize android and the larger screen (I also had all my phones jailbroken). In my area the "4g" connection isn't really any better then 3g. But really that's going to depend on your area. What "4g" issue are you referring to?

I personally do not like the Samsungs.. they seem to be a little more square for my taste. I love my inspire.. now Radioshack is going to start selling a red inspire instead of the standard color one. I love sense so that's why I went with an HTC

Carlrobling said:
What "4g" issue are you referring to?
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Probably the AT&T "4G*" vs "4G LTE" issue.

zuriken said:
Probably the AT&T "4G*" vs "4G LTE" issue.
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That's not an issue though. Nothing is broken or not working properly. It's just the way ATT is marketing its "4g".
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Carlrobling said:
When comparing anything its going to boil down to personal preference. I have had the iPhone 3g, 3gs, 4 and the Samsung captivate. I am happy with the inspire. More so then with the captivate I had gps issues and the random power down problem. And don't really miss the iPhone because i enjoy the ability to customize android and the larger screen (I also had all my phones jailbroken). In my area the "4g" connection isn't really any better then 3g. But really that's going to depend on your area. What "4g" issue are you referring to?
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i meant for a while they didnt have the 4g antennas activated in the atrix and inspire and only recently made them usuable through an update but some were reporting no differences in speed and some found the iphone 4 almost twice as fast. i put the 4g in quotes for the lte argument yes
I think im going to throw miui on the inspire, its my favorite rom for all android phones, its like the best of both worlds, the simplicity and organization of an iphone with the customization and widgets of android.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=969436

thatg said:
i meant for a while they didnt have the 4g antennas activated in the atrix and inspire and only recently made them usuable through an update but some were reporting no differences in speed and some found the iphone 4 almost twice as fast. i put the 4g in quotes for the lte argument yes
I think im going to throw miui on the inspire, its my favorite rom for all android phones, its like the best of both worlds, the simplicity and organization of an iphone with the customization and widgets of android.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=969436
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Ok I think you miss understood what was going on with the "4g" they were not allowing the "4g" upload connection. That's all the update changed was upload capability. So that you could get "4g" upload speeds. Nothing with download connection or speed changed.

Speed always is determined on how closely are to a tower and of that tower actually supports 4g(hspa+). Most people right now won't see a big difference because hspa+ is relatively new. Personaly I get 6Mbps down such I believe is very good. BTW you cannot even compare this phone to an iPhone, it just blows it put of the water (4. 3 inch screen that is absolutely stunning for only being "super lcd", the flexibility of the Android OS is just insane, battery life is okay on stock but with the right ROM it can last well over a day, almost no defects-except battery cover issue wich has been fixed- and the amazing quality of the. Phone itself.
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Personally, if I were in your position with a functional Captivate, I would stick with it for awhile as you wont see much improvement from the HTC Inspire 4G (unless you are dying to have HTC sense).
I can tell you, I came from the captivate to the inspire for two specific reasons:
1. My captivate had crummy gps and a not-so responsive back button
2. I'm an HTC fanboy
Although I'm happy with my decision, it's mainly because of the working GPS and back button. Here are the items I miss most from my captivate:
1. Touchwiz core apps. Samsungs Calendar, Clock/Alarm, contacts, and other core apps are just flat out better in my opinion. (HTC Sense is nice, and works somewhat well, but I really don't actually 'use' the widgets much at all, and I had the exact same kinds of widgets for my cappy if i wanted them.)
2. The screen on the captivate is most definitely better, and could also lead to better battery life.
As for "radio performance," I travel a lot in PA, DE, MD, DC, and VA... And I haven't noticed any better radio performance or specifically; no real speed increases from my captivate (with Cognition from back around january, haha). Amazingly, I'm trying out different radios now, because my inspire performs worse with the new ATT OTA - 06.06.30_M radio (much higher ping = 500ms to 1,500ms) and about the same speeds most of the time. Sometimes I get nice upload or download speeds, but it's so random at the moment I just want more consistent low ping for noticably better web page loading, syncing, etc. I don't often download MB's of data unless I'm getting a new app or downloading a podcast (which I can wait a few more seconds for, seriously).
In the end, it boils down to personal preference. I was able to explain my GPS and back button issues to AT&T in order to get upgrade eligability, so it made sense (ended up selling the Captivate to someone via craigslist). If you plan on paying more than the usual <$100 for the Inspire, I would stick with your captivate for the contract period.

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Personally, if I were in your position with a functional Captivate, I would stick with it for awhile as you wont see much improvement from the HTC Inspire 4G (unless you are dying to have HTC sense).
I can tell you, I came from the captivate to the inspire for two specific reasons:
1. My captivate had crummy gps and a not-so responsive back button
2. I'm an HTC fanboy
Although I'm happy with my decision, it's mainly because of the working GPS and back button. Here are the items I miss most from my captivate:
1. Touchwiz core apps. Samsungs Calendar, Clock/Alarm, contacts, and other core apps are just flat out better in my opinion. (HTC Sense is nice, and works somewhat well, but I really don't actually 'use' the widgets much at all, and I had the exact same kinds of widgets for my cappy if i wanted them.)
2. The screen on the captivate is most definitely better, and could also lead to better battery life.
As for "radio performance," I travel a lot in PA, DE, MD, DC, and VA... And I haven't noticed any better radio performance or specifically; no real speed increases from my captivate (with Cognition from back around january, haha). Amazingly, I'm trying out different radios now, because my inspire performs worse with the new ATT OTA - 06.06.30_M radio (much higher ping = 500ms to 1,500ms) and about the same speeds most of the time. Sometimes I get nice upload or download speeds, but it's so random at the moment I just want more consistent low ping for noticably better web page loading, syncing, etc. I don't often download MB's of data unless I'm getting a new app or downloading a podcast (which I can wait a few more seconds for, seriously).
In the end, it boils down to personal preference. I was able to explain my GPS and back button issues to AT&T in order to get upgrade eligability, so it made sense (ended up selling the Captivate to someone via craigslist). If you plan on paying more than the usual <$100 for the Inspire, I would stick with your captivate for the contract period.
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i havent bought a phone on contract since my 3gs 2 years ago my contract expires in a couple weeks considering moving to tmobile and getting a sensation 4g. I wish they'd come out with an iphone for tmobile already cause honestly i intend to get the new iphone when it comes out. But i just purchased an inspire, something to mess with while waiting for some new stuff to pop up. i think the only downfall is really the screen, battery life isnt great on anything i've tried aside from the iphone 4 which has lasted me 3days with minimal use.

This phone is great! Enough said. Dev support... Is awesome! As far as 4G I get 6 to 7mbps. My brother has t-mobile there same HSPA + yeilds him 2-3mbps. 3g on AT&T
Gets me those same speeds
Inspire 4G / Inspired Ace v1.0.1

thatg said:
i havent bought a phone on contract since my 3gs 2 years ago my contract expires in a couple weeks considering moving to tmobile and getting a sensation 4g. I wish they'd come out with an iphone for tmobile already cause honestly i intend to get the new iphone when it comes out. But i just purchased an inspire, something to mess with while waiting for some new stuff to pop up. i think the only downfall is really the screen, battery life isnt great on anything i've tried aside from the iphone 4 which has lasted me 3days with minimal use.
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I guess the screen battery drain would suck If I needed this as a phone. I use mine as a toy. Internet, games, Texting, Facebook...I may have made a call/received one on it 3 weeks ago. Not sure its been so long. lol At work I have a direct ext. and at home I have a landline. So yeah. Heh

AT&T is going to release a dual core htc phone sometimes in the future from what i heard, HTC Holiday, if u can wait, why not save a few bucks, although Inspire 4g is a sick phone, and there are many great rom you can flash.
good luck !

I've been thinking about getting an Inspire also. I've never owned any touchscreen phone in the past, so I've been doing quite a bit of reading about them lately. From reading the inspire forums everyone that owns one seems to really like it. Is there another phone for att even being considered as the best? I looked at the Infuse, but seems like most folks don't really like the sammy ui's and its gigantic. I also read that the battery life was pretty bad. When you guys say the battery life is disappointing on the Inspire with stock roms, how bad is it? Can I expect to get 12-15 hours out of it just with normal usage (few phone calls, some texting, light browsing)? Some of the posts I read here make it sound as if I should only expect 8 hours or so stock.

Solidarn said:
I've been thinking about getting an Inspire also. I've never owned any touchscreen phone in the past, so I've been doing quite a bit of reading about them lately. From reading the inspire forums everyone that owns one seems to really like it. Is there another phone for att even being considered as the best? I looked at the Infuse, but seems like most folks don't really like the sammy ui's and its gigantic. I also read that the battery life was pretty bad. When you guys say the battery life is disappointing on the Inspire with stock roms, how bad is it? Can I expect to get 12-15 hours out of it just with normal usage (few phone calls, some texting, light browsing)? Some of the posts I read here make it sound as if I should only expect 8 hours or so stock.
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the infuse is quite lightweight, and the screen is nice, its not a bad phone, why not get one and if you dont like it, return it within 2 weeks or switch to inspire, i think you have 2 weeks
and the best way to fix a battery issue is buying an other charger

I'm considering trying to get the phone used, and avoid re-contracting with att. If I end up going that route then I cant test drive any phones. I do like the front facing camera and was originally attracted to it because of that. However it is quite a bit more expensive atm. I'm looking for the best value for money and so far the inspire fits, just a bit worried about the battery life.

then you are gonna love the inspire for the money you spend, in my own opinion.
honestly i feel that the battery is not as good as it can be, but i still get about 14 hours out of it and i use my phone ALOT!

burton813 said:
then you are gonna love the inspire for the money you spend, in my own opinion.
honestly i feel that the battery is not as good as it can be, but i still get about 14 hours out of it and i use my phone ALOT!
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Is that with the stock rom?

Solidarn said:
Is that with the stock rom?
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no , right now im running leedroid and o/c'd to 1.5ghz, i am waiting for the v6.8 coredroid

burton813 said:
no , right now im running leedroid and o/c'd to 1.5ghz, i am waiting for the v6.8 coredroid
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Well I guess if im unhappy with stock battery performance I can rely on flashing to get me what I need. I can live with 14 hours, and I'm not really a "power user" so I may bet able to get a bit more out of it.

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SO, do you REALLY love your THUNDER bolt???

I just had to ask you guys/girls. I went to the store and this old lady in a wheel chair told the sales guy " I want the thunderbolt, where is it?" This thing is HOT?
I love it. Really a good phone...
I don't get 4G here so I think it's alright. Not the best. I'm coming from TMO and had a G2. I hate the battery life on this phone. It idles at 100+ma with the screen off as appose to my G2 which was around 30ma and my Nexus One at 3ma. But the display is really nice. I guess I'm just remorseful for leaving TMO.
Edit: just realized that all the other g2 find I was comparing this to had custom kernels so its unfair to compare both.
Phone is awesome, definitely worth the cash
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I absolutely love mine coming from a incredible. But I knew I would. Loved sense, wanted a bigger display, better gpu, and really fast 4g. It just made sense lol. ( stupid pun intended)
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ddgarcia05 said:
I don't get 4G here so I think it's alright. Not the best. I'm coming from TMO and had a G2. I hate the battery life on this phone. It idles at 100+ma with the screen off as appose to my G2 which was around 30ma and my Nexus One at 3ma. But the display is really nice. I guess I'm just remorseful for leaving TMO.
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How do you measure that? Also, you can turn off 4g if its not available in your area.
I like the phone...but seeing how I am right on the line for 3g and 4g, I have yet to be able to fully experience the speed possiblities. The problem I have is battery life, coming from TMO and a Vibrant and an HD2, both which were far better. I'm still experimenting with settings however, and i'm sure once I root, and a few custom ROM's come out, it will be tons better. Nothing but good things can come from a piece of equipment like this.
I love most of it.. There are minor annoyances, but I don't think I've ever owned a "perfect phone". I've gone past the point of no turning back (returns) and I'm happy about it.
I left T-Mobile this past Sunday. After I heard the news of AT&T buying them out, I knew I had to move on. I was using the Galaxy S 4G, which now for sale.
Anyway, I feel that I made the right move. I really love the Thunderbolt very much! None of the phones @ TMO has anything on this bad boy. Can't even tell you how much faster the TB is over any of the 4G phones I had on TMO.
Yes I know Battery Sucks, but Cant Expect Good Gas Mileage out of a ferrari... I can look at other phones and specs, but I have tried everything, and there isnt anything that this phone doesnt do.
And of course the 2 biggest reasons for me getting it:
- LTE, amazing in Orlando, Fl
- Talk and Surf, I literally needed this, and use it a lot when I drive with maps and talking.
andydumi said:
How do you measure that? Also, you can turn off 4g if its not available in your area.
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battery monitor widget. Allows you to set the interval at which it updates, so you can see your phones power usage every 60 seconds if you so please.
andydumi said:
How do you measure that? Also, you can turn off 4g if its not available in your area.
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Current widget
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I recently sold my iphone 4 (att) and converted to android. This is my first handset. I have been LOOOOOVVVVIIINNNGGGGGG this phone. Now that i can set my phone to stay on 3g or 4g battery has improved much and the LTE speeds ive gotten in NYC are amazing. Was bored of iOS. Really loving the tinkering with this phone. Now waiting for that easy root and cyanogen Gingerbread ROM
I am in love.
I came from ATT and the Tilt2
I love VZW.
I love Android
I love the TB
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I left T-Mobile this past Sunday. After I heard the news of AT&T buying them out, I knew I had to move on. I was using the Galaxy S 4G, which now for sale.
Anyway, I feel that I made the right move. I really love the Thunderbolt very much! None of the phones @ TMO has anything on this bad boy. Can't even tell you how much faster the TB is over any of the 4G phones I had on TMO.
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I left Tmo today also. I sold my g2, and im moving on. It breaks my heart to hear that the idiots at stupid T & T are going to corrupt Tmobile. But whatever i guess...business is business.
Im picking up my thunderbolt tomorrow from work, and im not going to look back anymore. I do miss my G2 and wish i coulda used it for Verizon, but whatevs.
A lil FYI guys!
My settings currently:
LTE only
extended battery
11 hrs off charger
47% battery left. being using it a pretty good amount also. Seems cdma/lte must be what is hurting battery life.
P.S. - yes i love my thunderbolt and could never imagine returning it for a bionic or anything else in the near future honestly.
Absolutely happy, great phone, network, and best community. Can't wait for future updates! More to come!
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Well, I just rooted (ADB Method), went perfectly, debloated, running MikRom's Perfect Storm (seems great so far), and I am tethering my laptop using wifi tether and getting ridiculous speeds. Yes, I think I love my Thunderbolt!
Only thing that could make me happier about this phone is if android had as many quality apps and games as iOS.
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Yeah I love it, it was worth the wait and I'm not even in a 4G area but its what i wanted, screen size, processor, ram all to my liking and I'm anti Moto now because of eFUSE with the DX and such. X was gonna be my choice but I canceled that pre-order when I heard about the eFUSE. So HTC it is and Tbolt is just to my liking. Rooted in under 5 days and running VirusROM R1B2 and loving it.

[Q] Time to Upgrade: Need Information on Various Phones, and respective problems

As it comes time to upgrade once again, I find myself confronted my many options. The phones I am looking at are the Infuse 4g, Inspire 4g, Atrix 4g, Focus and iPhone 4. I am very partial to the Android devices and was hoping to end up with one. I currently have an iPhone 3g but want to trade up due to performance and battery life issues.
I would greatly appreciate some discussion and information on these various devices and the problems and plus's of each. I like the Atrix due to its power, battery and potential if the bootloader is ever unlocked. The Inspire is interesting due to the wide amount of development but I have sever concerns about the power in comeing years, battery life, despite ROM's and the speaker. I like the Infuse's screen, power, and, due to unlocked bootloader, development potential.
I have had Samsung "dumb" phones in the past, the SMS flawed Impression and the sub-par Solstice, so i have some concerns about Samsung phones. I like HTC but dislike them putting tiny batteries in their high end phones. Motorola is generally OK but I understand support is a bit lacking. iPhone is super reliable but I believe the OS is stale and boring. Also, i worry about the 4's future with the advent of the iPhone 5 in the coming months and, like I said, I like Androids.
Lets get some discussion going!
This is posted in the General's of all 3 phones. Excluding the Focus.
Hi there! i have had my Inspire for 2 and a half months. The first thing I must say is, I am unsure of how battery life was on the Iphone, but battery on the Inspire could be better. As any smartphone, the screen consumes A LOT of power. Only twice, however, has my battery not lasted me through the day. On average, I consumed 5% battery per hour on moderate use (25-30 texts per hour, fiddling with a few widgets, looking at stocks, etc) when unrooted on the stock ROM. On heavy usage (screen on especially if playing games, etc), expect to consume at least twice that. I have later rooted and upgraded to the Inspired Ace ROM and done a few battery calibrations and my battery has seemed to sustain much better.
Battery aside, this phone ROCKS! First impressions may be lacking as the battery cover was very difficult to remove on mine, even left scratches where a screwdriver was needed to pry it. The case covers that up though. The phone seems to be very fast and powerful. I have never had any major problems with this phone. It is by far the best phone I have every had. The only problems I have had were when this phone was stock and unrooted. I have more apps than any one person needs (>100) and the built in Froyo application manager does not seem to handle this number well. You have to exit the Manage Applications app then go back to it to load them all sometimes. This problem was fixed with the installation of a Gingerbread ROM, however.
Root was painless with bubby's simple root. (I was almost disappointed at the small amount of user input required! )
The HTC Sense ui makes the phone very user friendly, as it includes many custom widgets for things like mail, stocks, news, and other things. The SRS Enhancement included with Sense ROMs makes music sound amazing.
I have included the high parts here. If there are any more questions you have, please ask. I will be happy to answer any questions you have, as I would HIGHLY recommend this device.
hey will! im thinking about getting a inspire, but a user at the store todl me the phone freezes alot. is that true for all inspires or probably happened to him because he bough a faulty or defected device?
ThroughHymn said:
hey will! im thinking about getting a inspire, but a user at the store todl me the phone freezes alot. is that true for all inspires or probably happened to him because he bough a faulty or defected device?
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That's not true for my phone.
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thank you! and also, i saw the inspire in the store, and the picture and just the quality of the screen and colors was BEAUTIFUL, i thought it was the exact if not better than the iphones visual quality. But i saw somewehre that the iphones resolution is better? how!!!
It has to do with the inspire being superlcd whilest the iPhone has a retina display which in essence is a very high res lcd to the best of my understandings. Keep in mind, however that the inspire's screen is much larger. (take that, Mr. Jobs!) As for the freezes, the guy at the ATT store must be a fan of another phone he is trying to push (blackberry perhaps? Sure...) Or has a total lemon. Mine has never truly frozen. The app manager lagging due to so many apps in froyo and one time out of a thousand in a text message the keyboard would not type when unlocking the phone straight to messaging were the only "freezes" I found and like I said, hitting back and re entering solved instantly.
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ThroughHymn said:
thank you! and also, i saw the inspire in the store, and the picture and just the quality of the screen and colors was BEAUTIFUL, i thought it was the exact if not better than the iphones visual quality. But i saw somewehre that the iphones resolution is better? how!!!
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The iPhone is somewhat nice...But considering it is Apple I must hate it naturally, retina is wonderful, but side by side with an inspire I do not see much of a difference.
Also the 3.5 inch screen is such a huge turn off for me...having a nice 4.3 inch screen to type messages and play games on beats the iphone right there...
(I just noticed im going against the iPhone alot)...Lets attack the Focus! I also considered this phone, I enjoy windows and all, but a mobile OS that is still new to the game didnt interest me much...4 inch screen was okay, I found it a little too small for my taste and I know most of you are saying "whoah .3 inches! Huge deal!" it actually is a really big difference, have you ever compared an inspire side-by-side with a focus? Plus its Samsung, every samsung takes forever to charge, and they are not the highest of quality.
The atrix is a nice competitor, but yet not one at the same time. Cool it has a dual core, so what? My inspire blows it out of the water overclocked at 1900Ghz(of course not constantly running). I can run my inspire at 500Mhz and it is still extremely fast and it surprised me. Also as many know the locked bootloader on the Atrix is also a big turn-off, not custom kernels and plus no ability to remove motoblur? jeez just the fact it runs motoblur makes me cringe, and also the fact that it is made by motorola.
Now moving onto the infuse, finally. This is the best competitor to the Inspire, although I had a choice of getting it I purchased the Inspire, here is why. A 4.5 inch screen was just to large for my hand, I would rather be using an actual tablet than using a half phone half tablet. Also the fact that it is Samsung also scares me, not the best quality device. Touchwiz is not my thing either! Although once rooted that all can change, I still dont like how it is the native OS. If you are really banking on buying an Infuse, you should really just wait for the Galaxy S2 to come to the US, that phone will be a beast. If you read this whole post then kudos to you, I apologize ahead of time for all of the grammatical mistakes and comma splices, but you cant blame me, just got out of school, time for summer .
Yeah I have not used and Samsung Android phones, but my last phone (well last 3 due to warranty replacements) was a Samsung Jack. Between WinMo and Samsung, I'm definitely a lifetime customer of any of its competitors. Plus HTCs recent decision to stop locking bootloaders will be nice for future phones if you are going to mod. My last Samsung was more like samsuck. Just saying.
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thank you both!! To me, HTC Sense is so well made that all the other operating systems? lol or whatever they are called in my opinion are just a more flexible edition of the IOS. I mean really, i look at the atrix, its widgets are boxes liek the iphone, it scrolls liek the iphone, and i find, well, i dont know if its the infuse or the atrix but the screen of one of them, may be both, is liek darkened? Its display isnt bright but its almost liek a gloomy type of brightness that the phone has. Im surprised no one else has commented or complained about it. But yea, i really want the Inspire, but ppl keep saying wait for a dual processor, but im only goign to get a dual processor phone that has HTC Sense the best in the business!
Not sure about the infuse, but I am pretty sure they do make sense based ROMs for non HTC devices. I know I have seen them for the galaxy s. So if you can get a non HTC dual core and want it to have sense, I'm sure you can find a ROM out there. However, from what I have read the second gen snapdragon (aka scorpion, according to HTC's specs) processor can hang with them fairly well especially with o/c kernels.
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I would like to add, that the Infuse has 428 of RAM and the Inspire has 768, very noticeable difference. Yes, gsII is going to be a beast, but I still don't wanna touch a Samsung. After having one of their dumbphones for a year and a half before getting this phone at the end of Feb, and reading their mishaps with the last year concerning the gs line and the fact I can't stand douchefizz, I will no longer consider Crapsung. I'd rather wait longer to give up my Inspire. The only phone I will give my Inspire up for right now is the rumored HTC Holiday. This is my first smartphone, and I am very happy! Liked em since I first saw the Evo and Incredible last year. Now, since owning this phone, I am HTC 4 Life!
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I would like to add, that the Infuse has 428 of RAM and the Inspire has 768, very noticeable difference. ...
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I am SO glad to see this. I had been jonesing an Infuse, but couldn't find a RAM spec. Jones now over. All I need is an overclockable kernel for Inspired Ace and even the 1200 MHz of the Infuse won't give me any envy.
I am very happy with the MDJ's v19 kernel on inspired ace. Overclock up to 1.6 GHz supported. I know some kernels will go up to 1.8 but I find this kernel good for battery life. I have leedroid on my sd card to try, but never have as I am happy with MDJ.
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I am very happy with the MDJ's v19 kernel on inspired ace. Overclock up to 1.6 GHz supported. I know some kernels will go up to 1.8 but I find this kernel good for battery life. I have leedroid on my sd card to try, but never have as I am happy with MDJ.
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Quick threadjack, been looking for an overclock kernel for IA!
The only d/l link I'm finding is for MDJ v22... any chance you can link me to v19?
I suppose I should keep up with the changing kernels a bit better! V22 is just the latest update. it should be as good or better that v19. Allows higher oc speed best I could tell by the changelog. I suppose I should update my kernel as well! Remeber to change the governor to smarta** for better battery life without the need to set screen off profiles with the ondemand governor. That is what I have read and seems to work, anyway.

[Q] Considering Thunderbold

I'm looking to move to Verizon (for coverage reasons - I travel in the rural midwest and plains and have issues with AT&T coverage).
I currently have a Samsung Captivate, running a Gingerbread custom rom. I have no desire to get another Samsung phone - there post release ROM development is non-existent. Don't get me started.
It seems that all of the Android phones currently on Verizon have some issue (from my perspective), but the closest to being a good all-around smartphone is the Thunderbolt.
The primary issue with the TBolt is battery life (from what I can tell).
Here's my question:
Using a stock battery and running a custom rom is it reasonable to get 14 hours of battery life with the following usage:
- 2 hours talk time
- 1 hour email
- 30 minutes web browsing
- 1 hour streaming music (OK, I could do without this)
[edit] From browsing the TBolt Dev Forums, I am leaning towards the Cl3anTh3ory ROM. [/edit]
I would have 2 email accounts - 1 GMail, set up for push notification, 1 IMAP that would poll every 30 min (using K9). I have 6 GCal's to sync and just over 300 contacts.
If I can get 14 hours, here's a follow up question: would you personally wait for the next round of phones to be announced (Sept and Oct) or would you go ahead with a TBolt for $69 (from Amazon with 2 yr contract)?
thanks,
Any future HTC released for Verizon is going to have the same basic guts as an EVO 3D with LTE. At this point, the Tbolt is right in the prime of development. The newer bases are much better in every area and I have no problems getting the kind of life you need doing a bit more than what your asking. My setup is in my sig. Being mostly on cdma, as it sounds like you would be, will stretch your battery even further. And if the stock battery doesn't do the job, the 1750mAh unit that's the same size certainly will.
More than possible. Check out gingeritis 3d and chingys 7/17 radio leak. I get over 24+ hours with average use
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Using custom roms, definitely
id wait for the tbolt successor or the gs2 to come tbh.
myself, I would probably wait and see what htc announces next, or maybe the bionic if it ever hits the shelves. Depending on those releases, yeah the tbolt is a great phone that should meet your needs. It's not hard for me to swap batteries if needed, but with the newer roms, battery life is improving.
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myself, I would probably wait and see what htc announces next, or maybe the bionic if it ever hits the shelves. Depending on those releases, yeah the tbolt is a great phone that should meet your needs. It's not hard for me to swap batteries if needed, but with the newer roms, battery life is improving.
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by the time the bionic comes it will be outdated. verizon waits too long to release phones.
I'm assuming the bionic will have locked boot loaders, which a deal breaker for me. Also, not sure about a 4.5" screen... I actually prefer 4", but can live with 4.3". But 4.5"? Guess it depends on overall device size and weight.
It'd possible on monolithth3ory or cl3anth3ory.
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It'd possible on monolithth3ory or cl3anth3ory.
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Those are not the only two ROMs that get that life.
Come on off the bandwagon.
this is the best phone ever, and ive went through alot.. sure people complain about this and that. but ultimately imho i think its the best verizon phone hands down and built rock solid (physically) and great dev support, i bought the extended battery and never looked back.. my only problem is which theory rom to run sense or aosp lol.. but i think from att to verizon + LTE would be a great upgrade for you =]
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this is the best phone ever, and ive went through alot.. sure people complain about this and that. but ultimately imho i think its the best verizon phone hands down and built rock solid (physically) and great dev support, i bought the extended battery and never looked back.. my only problem is which theory rom to run sense or aosp lol.. but i think from att to verizon + LTE would be a great upgrade for you =]
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AT&T is no competition to Verizon.
They lack the customer service and the network to compete.
cobeebs said:
I'm assuming the bionic will have locked boot loaders, which a deal breaker for me. Also, not sure about a 4.5" screen... I actually prefer 4", but can live with 4.3". But 4.5"? Guess it depends on overall device size and weight.
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The only phones rumored to have larger than 4.3" screens so far are 2 Samsung phones, and they are expected to be similar to the size of current 4.3" phones because the extra screen size will most likely be in the area of the current buttons at the bottom since ice cream sandwich will not need them. The Bionic has been confirmed to be 4.3"
subsoniic said:
this is the best phone ever, and ive went through alot.. sure people complain about this and that. but ultimately imho i think its the best verizon phone hands down and built rock solid (physically) and great dev support, i bought the extended battery and never looked back.. my only problem is which theory rom to run sense or aosp lol.. but i think from att to verizon + LTE would be a great upgrade for you =]
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Where I travel on business, there is really no comparison. Verizon's coverage is sooooo much better. Thanks for the thoughts on the tb hardware.
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AT&T is no competition to Verizon.
They lack the customer service and the network to compete.
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Agreed. Although I haven't really had major issues with customer service.
I have pretty much the same use as you and I am getting about 1 1/2 days out of my phone. sometimes 2 days between charges and I am on stock battery. '
I am running the monolithth3ory rom and it is great so far. I also have ultimate juice defender running.
so get it, root it, and love it! I sure do

[Q] move on?

I'm with att and im up for an upgrade. I currently have the inspire unlocked and rooted and I love it but I always like new toys. Was thinking about getting the samsung galaxy s II. What do you guys think? anybody made the move from the inspire to the sII yet? How is it?
I love the big screen on the inspire but the short battery life is starting to annoy me a little because I am a heavy user.
There's plenty of folks that have. I personally, am awaiting the Holiday/Raider.
abehbeh said:
I love the big screen on the inspire but the short battery life is starting to annoy me a little because I am a heavy user.
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That's android for ya dude,
lol im sure there are android phones with better battery life then the inspire out there.
Tx Redneck, is there any offical date for raider? I googled and it sounds like a great phone but most of it seems to be rumors. I love my HTC's tho.
abehbeh said:
lol im sure there are android phones with better battery life then the inspire out there.
Tx Redneck, is there any offical date for raider? I googled and it sounds like a great phone but most of it seems to be rumors. I love my HTC's tho.
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Do a little research. Android phones have been known to be crap on battery. The more we ask the phones to do the less battery they will have. Look in the other forums for Tue newer devices and you will see an average of about a day maybe a little more but that's about it. Hell the new dual core are showing 18 with minor use
I hear that the galaxy supposedly has pretty good battery life compared to the inspire. I guess its just different from different sources.
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I hear that the galaxy supposedly has pretty good battery life compared to the inspire. I guess its just different from different sources.
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It also depends on how you use it. I have a buddy that has he galaxy s II and he gets about a day out of it with mild use. The only way to tell is to get it and see how it stands up to how you use it.
The days of phones lasting days without charge are long gone so charging every night is expected and accepted
I'm ok with it lasting 1 day, the problem is to get it to last the whole day lol.
I use apps like veetle, hulu, fb, and pandora and from what I heard the samsung screen requires less battery then the lcd on the inspire so hopefully that would work to my benefit.
I'm not sure yet if I should get it or wait till the end of the year and see if at&t gets something interesting because these upgrades only come around so often.
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I'm ok with it lasting 1 day, the problem is to get it to last the whole day lol.
I use apps like veetle, hulu, fb, and pandora and from what I heard the samsung screen requires less battery then the lcd on the inspire so hopefully that would work to my benefit.
I'm not sure yet if I should get it or wait till the end of the year and see if at&t gets something interesting because these upgrades only come around so often.
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I cant say for sure as the SMOLD screen on the captivate used a ton more battery then my inspire. I would wait If i were you but that is just me. The screen on the Captivate was not enough for me to keep it so I traded it for the Inspire and after seeing the galaxy s II I wasnt really impressed. I am waiting on the the next good HTC. Ill never use a samsung phone again.
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There's plenty of folks that have. I personally, am awaiting the Holiday/Raider.
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I think that device is coming as the HTC vivid. One AT&T's Two LTE phones.
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From what I've heard the HTC phones are harder on the battery than other manufacturers because Sense is such a hog. But there's always ways around that (root)
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From what I've heard the HTC phones are harder on the battery than other manufacturers because Sense is such a hog. But there's always ways around that (root)
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Yeah sense is a resource hog indeed but with the right tweaks it can be onenof the best over all UI as it all works together seemlessly. I run a senseless rom my self as i have my fav 3rd party apps for launcher, messaging, email and stuff so other then the dialer and contacts app witch is the best dialer/contacts combo I have come across. But it is about the same as the TouchWiz from Samsung or motoblur from Motorola.
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lol im sure there are android phones with better battery life then the inspire out there.
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lol yeah there are a few. My last phone was an inspire and I picked up a gs2 a couple of weeks ago. My battery life has over doubled using the same habits. moderate/light use I can get 2 days, I never ever thought that would be possible on an android. My gs2 has better battery life than my friggin iphone. I have allot of phones and the inspire might be the worst battery life of any of them, but I still love that *****. I actually traded one of my inspires for a focus, but wp7 has some serious growing up to do before I make the switch full time.
Not trying to **** on the inspire and not trying to sway your decision. The new htc looks crazy nice, but I have yet to use it so I have no comment. The things I will be looking at closely on it are cell reception, battery life, glass fit, and of course a usable speaker. Those issues caused me to leave htc, for the first time in a while I might add. Here's to hoping the new holiday is all that and a bag of chips.
If your just looking for an htc then I would say screw it and get the holiday, but if your not married to one brand I would go to the stores and use the phones. Read online in the forums about issues and complaints and pick the phone that best suites your likes and needs. buying on launch day is just gonna make you one of the guinea pigs, which is fine with some like myself.
In my opinion the gs2 is a better buy than the new skyrocket due to screen size and the cpu. I dont have lte here and would rather have the horsepower and smaller screen, 4.3" is plenty big especially at that resolution. The new atrix 2 looks pretty nice to, but I havent messed with it that much. THe new motopoop is much much lighter than the last. And unlike the first atrix, it doesnt lag like hell out of the box, gingerbread was a God send for the first one. Happy hunting
My Inspire battery is pretty good. I charge it at night and go to work. I'm on WiFi all day at work and frequently check fb and other things. Even some YouTube or Pandora. When I get off I put it on my carcharger for the 15 min ride home and that's it till bedtime. Wasn't great though till I got advance task killer. I kill pretty much everything bout every hour or so now its pretty good.
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How's the Thunderbolt holding up?

I have never owned a Tbolt... I've owned the Charge, Bionic, DX, and now the Rezound. As many of you are probably aware, the Rezound is a great phone but it still has no true dev support to get the bootloader unlocked, and I miss flashing ROMs and such. I know someone who has their Tbolt for sale and it's very tempting for me to buy it and just hold on to the Rezound until proper dev support happens, IF it happens. But I need something to hold me over for now. Maybe I'll just return the Rezound and buy the Tbolt until the next batch of 4G phones come out. Who knows.
My question is simply this... how's the Tbolt holding up for as old as it is? I see there's a lot of support here and some awesome ROMs.
To be honest, and this is my opinion only. The Tbolt to me happens to be one of the best phones on verizon still. From everything I have looked at, there is no phone that has everything the Tbolt has. Yes there are dual core now or 1.5 ghz phones but you dont get the whole package the tbolt has. Still love that you can surf and talk on both 3g & 4g (i dont think they have any other phone that does that, but I could be wrong)
I personally have never experienced any issue with my phone that others have posted. Its always worked except when verizon data is down and its solid. The phone has received 5 updates since release (9 months) and that is impressive to me that they are still looking at the phone and sending patches for it.
I am fine waiting till my upgrade around 11/12. This phone has been fine for me..
The dev community is awesome and there is alot of support right now.... The Devs rock...
I've read so many posts about the bolt being "the red headed step child". After seeing Lindsay Lohan in playboy, I'm fine with that analogy. I have ZERO complaints from battery life to performance. There are sense 2.1,3.0 and two variations of 3.5. We have CM7 and several variations of it as well as MIUI. ICS is being worked on by some incredibly motivated and devoted devs, it's only a matter of time. Grab a Rezound battery, root and reap the benefits of the best 4g community there is (for now). Even though I haven't spend substantial time with any of the new phones, none have grabbed my eye. Besides dual core there haven't been drastic changes IMO, and dual core will be trumped by quad core in a few months. I've owned the OG DROID and now the Tbolt and I can't come up with a complaint for either....
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Awesome thanks guys. I wanted to grab a Tbolt when I returned my Charge to Costco but I read about the call quality being hit or miss, so it's a crap shoot with the phone I might be buying.
The only thing that prevents me from returning the Rezound is the fact that I sold the Beats headphones that came with it, lol. So I have to find another pair, undo my red button modification and send it back to the store since I bought it after they launched their "holiday return policy".
I am a former thunderbolt owner and have nothing but good things to say about it. My wife is using and running soab. I have a nexus but actually miss the thunderbolt in many ways. The radio is much better and I miss sense. I don't think you could go wrong buying this phone although development has definitely slowed.
If this gets ice cream sandwich it should be relevant for a lot longer
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Bought a like-new Tbolt last night, should be here by Saturday... just in time for Christmas!
I'll use it for now and if the Rezound doesn't get S-off by the time Verizon's holiday return policy ends, it goes back for good. If it does happen, then I'll hand the Tbolt off to my girlfriend. Win/win for everyone.
I've had my Tbolt since march 2011 and ive had no problems from the phone. everything still works flawlessly, despite my meddling and screwing things up a little =P. its not as flashy as the newer phones, but its beyond exeptional in terms of quality of use.
The TB I bought back in March has been working great, a few months ago I picked up the extended battery for it and while it's much more bulky, I can do whatever I want on the phone all day long without having to worry about the battery dying. The dev support has been great, I don't believe any other phone for VZW other then the new Nexus has had as much dev support behind it.
I'm confident in the radio in the phone I'm getting, the guy had a pic of his phone with FULL 4G signal and he lives in Wilmington, NC. It's not often that you see all bars lit up in a 4G area, so that's great. Screen looked perfect with no scratches, he said he's never had an issue with it... can't complain on the price I got it for either.
I'll admit, if I end up returning the Rezound I am going to miss the excellent call quality, the beautiful screen, the sheer speed even with Sense and bloat installed... makes me want to hold onto it anyway and wait for s-off, then switch back to it. Even if it's a couple of months from now. I did pay full price for it though...
I've had a number of VZW smartphones over the last few years (Moto Q, Moto Q9m, Samsung Saga, BB Pearl, BB Curve, BB Bold, HTC Droid Eris, HTC Thunderbolt) and so far the Thunderbolt has by far been my favorite. My only complaint was battery life (only getting around a day with heavy use), but as long as I get a full day, I don't care too much. It's a little bulky (compared to my Eris), but once you get use to the screen size it's hard to use anything else. Finally, it has a great modding community, and is relatively simple to mod these days. I would definitely recommend this smartphone to anyone with Verizon.
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I'm confident in the radio in the phone I'm getting, the guy had a pic of his phone with FULL 4G signal and he lives in Wilmington, NC. It's not often that you see all bars lit up in a 4G area, so that's great.
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Just to advise, the bars have nothing to do with 4G. The bars are voice signal strength indicators for cell service. the only indicator of 4G service is the 4G symbol..
You can have no bars and have great 4G service...
Jrocker23 said:
Just to advise, the bars have nothing to do with 4G. The bars are voice signal strength indicators for cell service. the only indicator of 4G service is the 4G symbol..
You can have no bars and have great 4G service...
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That's true, just feeling hopeful is all
I have owned my Thunderbolt since March 2011 and have had no issues. I really like this phone and have not even been tempted yet to look around at other phones. It has the perverbial buttload of features and I often wonder why it became the "red headed stepchild".. yeah there were issues at first that HTC/Verizon had to deal with but now that they are in the past, I think this is one of the better phones in the arsenal.
Mine is rooted and custom rom'ed .. no bloatware with my choice of everything possible instead of what Big Red tells me I want and that has a lot to do with why I like my phone.
I say if you can get a good deal then get one.
Got my Tbolt today, so far the phone is running great. No issues with anything at all on the latest OTA update. Not as quick or as beautiful as the Rezound, but I can manage easily.
Thunderbolt is a very good phone. Support(NotVZW) is great. Once i rooted the phone I can't put it down. The phone is stable, relatively quick and compared to newer phone smaller.
It's a great phone, but it seems all the devs are concentrating on the g nex now. Hopefully they don't forget about the bolt.
dirtyfingers said:
It's a great phone, but it seems all the devs are concentrating on the g nex now. Hopefully they don't forget about the bolt.
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Excellent phone, hopefully they come out with a very good ICS rom soon.
I got a thunderbolt from cowboom.com tonight for $138 shipped and 30 day return policy. Used coupon code Holiday15 for 15% off only good until tonight (the 25th).
Ill be swicthing from a DX.
Does it cost extra for 4g?
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I've had my bolt since the day it came out and still loving it. I don't plan to change until quad core phones become the standard, cause IMO, dual core will be obsolete soon.
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I've had my bolt since the day it came out and still loving it. I don't plan to change until quad core phones become the standard, cause IMO, dual core will be obsolete soon.
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+1 Quadcore will replace dualcore in less than 4 months.
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