OK, I've had my Captivate for 3 weeks now and while I really like it, I have a major decision to make before my window to return it closes. Coming from a WinMo Tilt 2 I was somewhat put off by it not being as easy to mod, but I can live with that. I bought it mainly because of Samsung's promise to upgrade it to Froyo. Looks like that was a mistake. I'm willing to root it to remove the bloat and allow sideloading, but I haven't yet felt comfortable to think about a custom ROM. Not sure I ever will as it is much different from doing the same on a WinMo phone. The biggest gripe I have, though, is the GPS performance. I've had both ends of the spectrum as far as getting locks with different programs, insode and outside, and lost lock several times while navigating in the car, both here in Cali and in Florida. I mountain bike and use my phone to track my rides, so GPS is important to me. My Tilt worked excellently in that regard.
So, do I keep it and just learn to live with it, even though it looks like AT$T will have some really nice Android offerings in the near future, or do I cut my losses (about $100 worth of Cappy accessories I already purchased) and return it before my 30 days are up? I like the form factor, the performance, the way it plays my converted movies and all the apps available for it, but the crappy GPS and dismal battery life are really starting to bug me. What say you, XDA community?
Honestly I'd just bite the bullet & return it. Using Phoenix rom you could have great GPS but there's really gonna be some better **** coming out. That's what ID do.
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Return it, and stick to old phone. There are couple of good phones lined up to be released within the end of first quarter '11.
sure would miss an active member who knows what he's talking about in the captivate sub
I just seen in yahoos homepage about att new phones announced at the CES show, check it out, the one that has my interest is the"samsung infuse 4g" search to see photos if it, looks like captivate but bigger, I know why samsung or att hasn't released 2.2 because looks like they just moved on. Features include: 4.5 inch super omled screen, 8mp camera with 1.3mp front having camera, 1.2 ghz hummingbird processor, 2.2 froyo upgradeable to 2.3 "so they say unless they just move on again with a new phone" up to a 48gb sd card. And running hspda or 3g+, but att is calling this 4g. I have this on my cappy now with doc v7 rom now and it is faster than 3g.
I would just wait, they also announced others, check the site.
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Thanks for the input, guys. Well, I decided to keep the Cappy. Here's why: I only paid $49 for it on upgrade. The newer batch of Android phones will not see that kind of pricing for at least 6 months, likely longer. I spoke to an AT$T rep and she assured me that they are committed to providing the promised Froyo update ASAP. No time frame, but it will happen. My biggest complaint is with the GPS and I have done some things to improve it, at least outdoors, so I think I can live with it for my mountain bike excursions. I rarely use it for in-car navigation. Was more of a novelty while I was visiting Florida over the holidays.
So, thanks again to all that responded and XDA in general. I'm going to root my Cappy and remove the bloat in the next few days. Oh, and my 1800mah battery came yesterday and I'm currently conditioning it to see if it has any benefit over stock. Will post in that thread.
Return it. I wish i had... They promised me the Froyo update asap back in august when i bought the phone. i made a HUGE mistake buying this phone. i HATE AT&T
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So, thanks again to all that responded and XDA in general. I'm going to root my Cappy and remove the bloat in the next few days.
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Flash a Froyo ROM and apply Da_G's GPS fix (if it's not built in to the ROM). You won't regret it.
Actually, if you wait a day or so, you'll be able to flash a bone-stock Captivate Froyo ROM from Rogers.
I just can't go back to my Tilt 2. I loved that phone, but it feels like a dinosaur, now. What if I do wipe the Cappy and return it? When I get another Android phone would I be able to download all my paid apps from Market without having to repurchase them? Is Market activity phone or user specific?
Don't quote me but I think its linked to your google acc. That you sign into to pay for apps
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Don't quote me but I think its linked to your google acc. That you sign into to pay for apps
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When I lost my Captivate on the Haul road and was sent a new one, all my paid apps popped up in the Market ready for installation as soon as I'd set up my Google account. So I think you're right.
It astonishes me how many people bought this phone based on the promise of Froyo. It's not like Froyo is so much better than Eclair, and it's not like the phone is a worthless POS without Froyo.
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It astonishes me how many people bought this phone based on the promise of Froyo. It's not like Froyo is so much better than Eclair, and it's not like the phone is a worthless POS without Froyo.
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You're right.
It's a worthless POS WITH Froyo.
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It astonishes me how many people bought this phone based on the promise of Froyo. It's not like Froyo is so much better than Eclair, and it's not like the phone is a worthless POS without Froyo.
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Which is why I'm willing to keep it. I am always amazed at the people who get so bummed when a new phone comes out as if it rendered their current phone inoperative. You're right that Froyo isn't a big deal, but a better working GPS and Flash support are desirable features. Samsung and AT$T just need to follow through on their promise of the update. If they don't, I'll still be happy with the phone, but it will definitely be the last Samsung product I'll buy. I stopped buying their HDTVs when the last one took a dump and I couldn't get warranty service.
You could also exchange it for a new one based on the poor GPS performance. I mean if it doesn't work right, they should exchange it with no questios asked right? Since it seems that the GPS issue is hit and miss with these phone, you may get one that works good right out of the box.
I went to the warranty center this past weekend and exchanged my Captivate for another one because of the GPS and a couple of shutdowns over the last 2 1/2 mos and the replacement I got has much improved GPS.
I've actually got my GPS dialed in and working pretty well right now.
Should have returned it. At&t has been bs'ing us on the froyo update since Google announced it. I'm enjoying my Phoenix rom but I wish I had the real deal. I'll be buying the motorolla with that duel core when it drops
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I've actually got my GPS dialed in and working pretty well right now.
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Glad to hear that.
I would keep it considering how much you got it for. I mean, $49 is a good deal for this phone even with its issues. When I got mine, I paid the same for a refurb.
Hope I can sell my captivate for a decent price and upgrade to the new motorola or htc phone relatively cheaply. I love this phone, but I hate it at the same time. Will be nice to not have to worry about lagfixes, scetchy gps, and updates that take damn near forever. Main thing I will miss is of course the samoled screen.
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Yea good luck with trying to sell it... at least here on XDA.
Might be luckier if you eBay/Craigs List it and hope some poor sap is willing to pay for it.
The whole Galaxy S line has a horrible reputation now - even the Nexus S!
I was hoping to trade for an AT&T Nexus... but A) they wouldn't take it as a trade and B) they wanted cash to go along with it.
Meh - I'll be keeping this phone till it pukes and then upgrade when the year comes up. At this point I don't care if AT&T ever releases a true Froyo update.
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Hi,
Just wanted to get some feedback from knowledgeable peeps around
My contract is up and was wondering if its a wise decision to switch from my utterly delightful Nexus One to more powerful Samsung Captivate
I like the flexibility and freedom to play around on my Nexus One, but the Super AMOLED and Faster GPU has been calling me to Samsung Captivate.
All the 2 cents are welcome.
Cheers
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Hi,
Just wanted to get some feedback from knowledgeable peeps around
My contract is up and was wondering if its a wise decision to switch from my utterly delightful Nexus One to more powerful Samsung Captivate
I like the flexibility and freedom to play around on my Nexus One, but the Super AMOLED and Faster GPU has been calling me to Samsung Captivate.
All the 2 cents are welcome.
Cheers
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I believe the CPU and RAM are similar in both devices (1GHz and 512 MB respectively). Considering that the Nexus One seems to be Google's "official" Android development device, I would stick to that until something substantially superior comes out.
On a side note, I think you're going to miss the notification light on the Nexus One.
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I believe the CPU and RAM are similar in both devices (1GHz and 512 MB respectively). Considering that the Nexus One seems to be Google's "official" Android development device, I would stick to that until something substantially superior comes out.
On a side note, I think you're going to miss the notification light on the Nexus One.
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Thanks for the response, Yes, Notification lights are awesome..
There is an app floating around here that uses a red dot on the screen as an LED indicator.
if you do decide to take that step, get one from amazon. Theyre selling for 49.99 with a 2 year.
im not too sure if it will work with an upgrade, but it never hurts to find out.
If I was to go back a couple of week in time, I'd wait until the GPS issue was fixed and the Froyo build was out from Samsung before taking the plunge on the Captivate. I am still thinking of returning my Captivate and going back to my sucky Blackberry until I can get a phone that I am not apologizing about by saying things like "it's better than the iPhone, but the GPS does not work and no, it isn't have the latest software but it definitely can make phone calls!". I'd wait on the Captivate.
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If I was to go back a couple of week in time, I'd wait until the GPS issue was fixed and the Froyo build was out from Samsung before taking the plunge on the Captivate. I am still thinking of returning my Captivate and going back to my sucky Blackberry until I can get a phone that I am not apologizing about by saying things like "it's better than the iPhone, but the GPS does not work and no, it isn't have the latest software but it definitely can make phone calls!". I'd wait on the Captivate.
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Do not go back to your blackberry man! They are sooo boring. I could not wait to jump ship. I am kind of sad I am selling my bb 9700 though (GPS actually worked lol). Good times suing bbm. oh well I got android now and it the business.
If you really feel like going back to blackberry would you really be happy with their stale os?
Not yet man. Not til we get 2.2 IMO. I'd stick with the N1 for now. Don't get me wrong a few months from now galaxy s phones will be the new hot ****. But I don't think enough people have gotten their hands on them yet. No where near as many roms out there. GPS sucks a ****. Ahh hell, just get one.
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Do not go back to your blackberry man! They are sooo boring. I could not wait to jump ship. I am kind of sad I am selling my bb 9700 though (GPS actually worked lol). Good times suing bbm. oh well I got android now and it the business.
If you really feel like going back to blackberry would you really be happy with their stale os?
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Oh, it would be my old BB that I was using before I got my Captivate so I'll just be waiting very impatiently for the GPS fix and Froyo so I can come back! I'm a developer and have been mucking with the Android code to see if I could find/fix the GPS issues and port to Froyo myself but no luck yet. I am never going back to anything but Android - just need my first Android phone to actually work. I never actually use GPS except in a pinch when I am walking in the city but I need it to work at those times!
But for someone new, and who is not a developer - waiting on the Captivate is a good idea. Hopefully the fixes will come soon - I am just a little afraid that the GPS might be a hardware issue since the Galaxy S has been out for months and it has the same problems.
-Atin
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Oh, it would be my old BB that I was using before I got my Captivate so I'll just be waiting very impatiently for the GPS fix and Froyo so I can come back! I'm a developer and have been mucking with the Android code to see if I could find/fix the GPS issues and port to Froyo myself but no luck yet. I am never going back to anything but Android - just need my first Android phone to actually work. I never actually use GPS except in a pinch when I am walking in the city but I need it to work at those times!
But for someone new, and who is not a developer - waiting on the Captivate is a good idea. Hopefully the fixes will come soon - I am just a little afraid that the GPS might be a hardware issue since the Galaxy S has been out for months and it has the same problems.
-Atin
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Yeah I am in the same boat with the gps issues. I do not really use it but I would love for it to work as flawlessly as it did on my Bold 9700. I am trying to get into the developer scene but I find it kind of hard. I have used linux before and know some basic coding in C,C++, and python but I just do not know how to start.
Anyways off topic. If you're on the boat about this phone get and if you do not like it return it before the 30 days are up. Blame it on the ****ty gps if it has not been fixed by then and you might get the restocking fee waived.
JUST DO IT.
I got it. What else are you going to upgrade to? I have a n1 but wanted a new toy. The captivate is awesome. Sure gps may suck if you really need one. I have gps in all my cars so don't care for it. But having new technology is cool. At&t has nothing better. What u gonna get the iphone? Lol. I bought two of them on my upgrade for my parents line and sold that ***** for 600 each. So for 50 dollars i get it. BUT don't get rid of n1. I still use it everyday. Its my main phone. Captivate is a play phone. I flashed it bricked it returned it mod it and brick it again and exchanged it. I exchanged it about five times already. Lol one store told me they will charge me resgocking charge on next return so i just went to another store down the street. Lol. I spent 100 bucks but literally got it free when i sold the icrap. Also saved the money for the htc desire hd/ace. It will come around. But not sure if it will be better then captivate. Once froyo or maybe gingerbread cones to captivate, i prob be selling my n1. MAYBE? I don't know if i ever will. Its only six month old. I say it will be good til android 4.0 comes out. Til then i prob keep the n1. So get it. Play with it, but keep the n1.
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captivate is the best phone ive used to date!
stick to n1 till we get froyo
Captivate kills the n1.. I've go both... gps isnt broke completely . I use it daily ... not too shabby, but could be a little better...
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Captivate kills the n1.. I've go both... gps isnt broke completely . I use it daily ... not too shabby, but could be a little better...
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GPS would be nice if it worked for everybody , it seems so random sometimes it works sometimes not so much
You will def miss the trackball notifications. That's one big gripe of mine. I also miss the rock solid GPS, pix with geotagging that works (w/ out having to have gps turned on), the cm mods, some of the stock apps (especially the stock calendar app), and how much it frickin flies in general when compared to the captivate. I still have my N1 and will probably be returning the captivate unless they get the gps shizz fixed. I do quite like the captivate's potential tho. Just needs some attention from the (very awesome) devs. I may buy it again sometime down the road.
If you don't mind paying the $35 restocking fee for returning it before the 30 days, it's worth playing around with it.
You'll be in for a shocker when you switch.. there isn't much ROM development going on (yet) That's why I still have my N1
I mean, we would get Infuse 4G in this spring. However that is not Galaxy S 2, just overclocked Captivate with better screen. Rumors confirmed that new Galaxy S series will come with Orion processor that is duelcore hummingbird. I know android OS and apps are not optimized to duel core so it could be useless battery hog until it get honeycomb.
But most concerning point is Infuse 4G will come with froyo and take time forever to get gingerbread, it is really dealbeaker. Also Infuse 4G will have no international brother like i9000 which is our ROM source.
Should I end up contract to AT&T and move on other carrier?
Given Galaxy S2 is still under tight wrap waiting to be announced at MWC, it is too early to talk about whether or not AT&T will get it.
Officially, Galaxy S2 does not even exit. So how do you know AT&T won't get it.
So far, the only Android OS I saw that mentioned dual-core support is HoneyComb (3.0) which is only for tablet. Gingerbread does not support dual core. So, having a dual core phone right now is quite useless, the other half will just stay unused.
Go to t-mobile and quit samsuck completely. AT&T is terrible with Android support, and Samsuck.....well......they suck. That is unless you want your phone to be a statistic in the Samsuck fragmentation universe.
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Go to t-mobile and quit samsuck completely. AT&T is terrible with Android support, and Samsuck.....well......they suck. That is unless you want your phone to be a statistic in the Samsuck fragmentation universe.
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T-mobile sucks in this area...so that really isn't a good alternative IMHO...and I have absolutely no idea what you are saying about the fragmentation..There really isn't any carrier that doesn't suck...they all do...some just more than others in some areas...
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lol @ relying on a carrier to provide OS support. Do it yourself. XDA is here for a reason.
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There really isn't any carrier that doesn't suck...they all do...some just more than others in some areas...
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Truer words have never been spoken.
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There really isn't any carrier that doesn't suck...they all do...some just more than others in some areas...
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QF the muther******* T!
there are rumors of the nexus s coming for at&t.
engadget dot com/2011/01/27/nexus-s-coming-in-a-new-atandt-flavor/
and at&t itself has said that this year they'll be bringing a lot of top end android phones (not gimping them to make iphone look superior). a good side-effect of them losing iphone exclusivity.
i'd wait for feb14-17 for the mobile world conference to get a better idea of which phones are coming.
Personally, the Captivate is the last Samsung product I'll buy, and probably the last product I'll buy from A**. The way I was ripped off on this phone by the customer support will survive in my memory for AT LEAST the duration of this contract. I don't care WHAT Samsung comes up with.
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Personally, the Captivate is the last Samsung product I'll buy, and probably the last product I'll buy from A**. The way I was ripped off on this phone by the customer support will survive in my memory for AT LEAST the duration of this contract. I don't care WHAT Samsung comes up with.
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I'm with you on that. Samsuck is dead to me. As soon as the Atrix or Optimus 2X hits AT&T I'm ditching my Captivate immediately.
I would like to leave AT&T too, but where I live, they have the best 3G speeds. With HSDPA/HSUPA enabled I get 2Mb down/1.5 Mb up. Verizon here cant touch that. Everybody at work has VZW and they get about 700kb up and down.
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lol @ relying on a carrier to provide OS support. Do it yourself. XDA is here for a reason.
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Here, here!
Unless it's the Nexus S, don't buy a Samsung anything. You'll regret it.
A nrw OS does not fix a broken phone. Even with the best OS, the bad phones turn themselves off and the GPS stays flakey. Thats not to mention that you're risking your warantee and the folks that bricked their phones upgrading. I have changed ROMS but for a top of the line smart phone, you shouldn't have to.
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lol @ relying on a carrier to provide OS support. Do it yourself. XDA is here for a reason.
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Very Good Phone
im far away from ATT so i dont know how its support works. For me the Captivate is the best phone ive ever had. I dont have any complains about it. And is even better with the great roms available here on XDA. iphone 4 lovers hate me when i show them all the things i can do... Sure there probably are better phones... but i dont see a reason to change mine for a while.
This will be my last Samsung as well. Thankfully Andromeda 1.0 makes it a usable phone to get me through this contract.
Yeah, the GPS leaves a lot to be desired. I've managed to finally get a ROM/Kernel/Modem combination that is stable, and can keep a GPS lock.
The only other Samsung phone I had prior to this was the WinMo Blackjack. Back then I didn't know enough about smartphones to be aware that it was horrible.
But, hey, I got my Captivate for free. Christmas present from my girlfriend, and she only paid $70 for the phone, screen protector, and 16 gig microSD card. So, I can't complain too much.
I am grateful to the Captivate, though. Without it, I wouldn't have learned about Android, and what true customization is all about.
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A nrw OS does not fix a broken phone. Even with the best OS, the bad phones turn themselves off and the GPS stays flakey. Thats not to mention that you're risking your warantee and the folks that bricked their phones upgrading. I have changed ROMS but for a top of the line smart phone, you shouldn't have to.
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Honestly not hating on you dude, but you should buy an IPhone. If you want something that works out of the box and you don't have to mess with that's the way to go. EVERY Android handset out there requires tweaking to some degree or another. And every other manufacturer has their own issues.
Samsung has a bit of a track record of not updating and now the GPS issues. But Motorola gets you a locked boot loader. LG currently doesn't have a real competitor in the US yet. HTC just took the EVO and rebadged it for Verizon and AT&T, not to mention the Desire HD for the rest of the world.
I'm not overly thrilled with the Captivate. It's a great phone, but the lack of support from Samsung (cmon, at&t may have it's faults but they have little to do with the lack of an update or support, they just sell phones, my opinion of course.) The biggest issue for me is GPS. I do have a standalone unit for trips and such but I really like having a phone that can get me from A to B easily. I don't carry my GPS everywhere, I do carry my phone.
Would I buy another Samsung Device?? Maybe. I'd certainly wait a few weeks after it was released to see what the main issues are. As far as software, I don't care. I flash ROM's more than I change my...... Well you get my point.
if att gets the galaxy 2? it will hit in the fall of course,they will milk the atrix ,infuse and the htc dealio for all they are worth. sad reaalllymost likely increase data charges for no reason than renaming their 3g network....sounds like the goverment at work here, we need bigger goverment to counteract this maddddnesss
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im far away from ATT so i dont know how its support works. For me the Captivate is the best phone ive ever had. I dont have any complains about it. And is even better with the great roms available here on XDA. iphone 4 lovers hate me when i show them all the things i can do... Sure there probably are better phones... but i dont see a reason to change mine for a while.
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Gotta agree with you there. When I switched from my iPhone to the Cappy, I'll admit I went through some withdrawal basically because a comparable cydia/rock alternative wasn't readily available (I really missed the streaming video and content apps...the ones that worked anyway :/ ). The work the devs are doing within the XDA community breathed new life and excitement into my cappy. I think in time, the overall developement scene for Android will rival and (hopefully) surpass what the iPhone community has accomplished.
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Gotta agree with you there. When I switched from my iPhone to the Cappy, I'll admit I went through some withdrawal basically because a comparable cydia/rock alternative wasn't readily available (I really missed the streaming video and content apps...the ones that worked anyway :/ ). The work the devs are doing within the XDA community breathed new life and excitement into my cappy. I think in time, the overall developement scene for Android will rival and (hopefully) surpass what the iPhone community has accomplished.
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Agreed. Before I got my Captivate, I was expecting the same Cydia/Installer combo to show up a couple minutes after I got it.
Honestly, Market serves as an undermined Cydia, but iPhone does have the better dev base by a landslide and that's why it's more popular, at least for devs and the like.
If Captivate had the dev base iPhone does, I wouldn't need anything else. Then again, I don't think anyone else would, either.
So basically... I'm wondering what maybe some of the Captivate users are looking at getting.
I'm on my fourth Cappy. Now the speaker stopped working on it (Just the headphone jack works for sound now).
Pissed at this phone, honestly.
I'm going to see if I can talk AT&T into letting me get a different phone, on the basis of this being a lemon.
Any suggestions?
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So basically... I'm wondering what maybe some of the Captivate users are looking at getting.
I'm on my fourth Cappy. Now the speaker stopped working on it (Just the headphone jack works for sound now).
Pissed at this phone, honestly.
I'm going to see if I can talk AT&T into letting me get a different phone, on the basis of this being a lemon.
Any suggestions?
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If I had to replace my phone right now the Inspire is the one I would get. It's really a nice phone and has a lot of developer support.
I bought an inspire off-contract to replace my captivate... it's pretty nice. I would recommend it.
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My speaker stopped working twice and had a new one put in warranty. Third time it happened I just tapped on the speaker and it came back on and now I keep a lil peace of paper inside right below the speaker to keep a lil pressure on the connections. Been working great
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So basically... I'm wondering what maybe some of the Captivate users are looking at getting.
I'm on my fourth Cappy. Now the speaker stopped working on it (Just the headphone jack works for sound now).
Pissed at this phone, honestly.
I'm going to see if I can talk AT&T into letting me get a different phone, on the basis of this being a lemon.
Any suggestions?
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Press the speaker usually works.
I'm done with the Captivate, in other words. Too many issues with it.
Custom ROMs are the only reason I've hung on this long.
Would you not consider the Atrix or (shudder), Jailbroken iPhone 4? The Inspire's battery is so small.
My main thing- is I think I'll sorely miss the Super AMOLED. The next phone with AMOLED is looking to be the Infuse, and who knows when that comes out.
I've tried replacing my captivate but imo there is nothing out that compares yet.
I started with an inspire but took it back 3 times due to poor screen. Then tried an atrix but mine was junk. I had it for 2 weeks which for half of that time it was in it's box on the fridge while I went back to my trusty old captivate.
I think no matter what I end up buying eventually I will still keep my captivate as a backup just in case.
If I were you I would try to get another one, I've had not a single issue with mine other than the gps crap. Get another captivate and wait for something better to come out than the crap that att is pushing now. The inspire is an old design and the atrix was released too soon in my opinion.
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Its so sad that ATT doesnt have much options in smart phone section. Still the best android phones are inspire, atrix and captivate....
I own a captivate and i am very happy with it...but when atrix was launched i thought wow dual core will be so nice...my room mate got it...and i am so happy i didnt just jump on it....the first thing is screen...nothing can replace SAMOLED....other thing was I saw Atrix hanging, where as my custom rommed captivate was running smoothly...Atrix has that locked bootloader issues..
Sorry I'm on wrong forum but got a friend whose captivate wont turn on its dead not rooted.
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TexUs said:
So basically... I'm wondering what maybe some of the Captivate users are looking at getting.
I'm on my fourth Cappy. Now the speaker stopped working on it (Just the headphone jack works for sound now).
Pissed at this phone, honestly.
I'm going to see if I can talk AT&T into letting me get a different phone, on the basis of this being a lemon.
Any suggestions?
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you talking about the speaker phone or the internal speaker??? i have an extra internal speaker if ya need one. they're really easy to replace
Wow I've had my Captivate since 3 days before official release and it still works perfectly.
Honestly I'm waiting to see if T-Mobile and AT&T merge, that way when I get my upgrade (In August) I can hopefully buy the sidekick 4g... But that's depending on so many circumstances, plus samsung is making it. *gags*
Design Gears dumped the Atrix, eh? That isn't too reassuring, lol.
Infuse is out based on the battery life.
It looks like the only option is the iPhone 4..... 3.5" display... Not as much power under the hood as my Captivate, either...
Hmmm, I've got some decisions.
I guess I could always sell said iPhone 4 in 6 months when the GS II comes out or something. Apple fans are always willing to buy.
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Honestly I'm waiting to see if T-Mobile and AT&T merge, that way when I get my upgrade (In August) I can hopefully buy the sidekick 4g... But that's depending on so many circumstances, plus samsung is making it. *gags*
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The merger is a year out. That's already in black and white ink. In other words, they won't even start the process, until a year from now. Which means it'll be at least, 2-3 years before customers see the benefit.
Just learned in this thread DG returned his Atrix... Checked the signiture it's true
Maybe should wait for a while, there are many phones coming to AT&T this year.
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Honestly I'm waiting to see if T-Mobile and AT&T merge, that way when I get my upgrade (In August) I can hopefully buy the sidekick 4g... But that's depending on so many circumstances, plus samsung is making it. *gags*
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From what I've been reading, all Tmobile bands will be switched to ATTs bands so the radios would have to be replaced.
The Inspire is the best thing AT&T has at the moment, but its battery is horrible.
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So warranty does not have access to iPhone's.
It sucks, but I don't think I'll ever be able to get them to get me one if I want one. It's also not surprising because obviously part of Apple's deal is that Apple takes care of warranty for the iPhone, thus ATT Warranty does not have access to any.
What they offered me was pretty much anything else though.
The Inspire and Atrix were too new, they didn't have any in warranty yet. Those are the only two Android phones to be considered equivalent or upgrade (Inspire is out solely based upon the battery).
They also offered me some Win 7 devices but in all honesty I don't see those being equivalent in any way. I haven't really researched it and know squat about Windows 7 Phone.
So I'm stuck now. I don't know if I should wait a month or two to see if the Atrix comes into their warranty or just replace the Cappy...
I also got sick of the Captivate and got an Inspire. It definitely works a lot better than the Captivate, and aside from the battery it much nicer. If you don't like the big screen though that might also be a consideration. Personally the battery does annoy the hell out of me though.
I just switched to the atrix other than shi$$y programming in loved cappy so I just took it all the way to stock kies'd it to 2.2 and gave it to my nephew. The atrix is like running a custom rom except its stock that actually works heard a lot of good things from the guys over in the atrix forum is love it so far.
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I am really really sick of this Droid 2 that VZW replaced my Droid with. I'm sick of Moto services invading my phone and slowing it down. There's no true ASOP build. This phone sucks balls.
I was set on buying an Incredible 2 OoC b/c it was cheap at $440 and saving my upgrade till later, but where I'm moving to next week already has LTE towers.
Do I really want to wait 2 months using this laggy trash? And possibly end up getting a TB anyway because the other phones coming out suck.
Or do I want to get a TB and save my upgrade till later in the Q4 2011/Q1 2012 when NFC Ice Cream Sandwich phones come out.
Don't want a Charge, poor build material choices.
Don't want a Revolution. Bing...
Does it really matter? Not really... You just root and you can put whatever you want and however you want.
Motorola tends to lock their bootloaders and make it hard to do what you want.
Samsung stated that they'll never lock it that way(Not in those words, but given the sense that they will leave it open)
HTC has been locking down their devices, but not as tough as Motorola does.
So basically pick a device with the hardware you want, and make sure it's root and you can install custom roms/kernels.
The T-Bolt is a great phone, and it has excellent community support. I have absolutely no complaints about my phone (aside from the battery life).
That being said, the Galaxy S II that's coming out looks sexy as hell. It might be worth the wait to hold out for that. Honestly, it's totally up to you.
There was talk about tiered 4G plans, which is what made me opt for the early upgrade to the T-Bolt (hoping to be grandfathered in to unlimited 4G). I haven't heard much on that front, but it's still a possibility.
wait a few months
from everything i've ever read about samsung phones, their software support is absolutely horrible. slow updates, faulty gps etc. i've heard a ton of people complain about the issue, and it seems to be the case with all their phones... never had one, but that's the impression i get.
the thunderbolt is a decent phone, but all it really has over the droid x is 4g. the t-bolt screen might be a little better, but not much. in day to day use it's not faster, the battery isn't even close and the build quality of the DX is equal or better. if i were you i would pick up a DX on craigslist for $175 and save your upgrade for a few months. The dx has even more dev support than the T-bolt and it's the best phone I ever had.
bottom line is, if you really want 4g speeds right now, really really bad, then get the thunderbolt. if you can do without that for awhile i think you will be really happy with a DX, especially after using the Droid 2, and you'll spend less than half the money.
the above is just my .02.
Show me a HTC or Motorola phone with latest software on it
Not you fat Jesus
I bought mine off contract and am very happy I did it. Yes there are a few issues, but nothing a little root cant fix.
Though waiting a few months for a better phone won't hurt, the TB is a great choice.
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Not you fat Jesus
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I just have to say that this cracks me up every time I see you post it.
Once you get a taste of 4G, you will never want a phone that is 3G only. So if you are moving to 4G area and don't want to pay full retail, I suggest you get a used Tbolt from craigslist and use it until something comes along that you like better, then sell the Tbolt
i love my TB, i have it rooted with das bamf NTE 1.6.3 and its about the coolest thing since MP3s.. as with others, the battery life on this thing is fkin AWFUL!! i have the extended battery and i still dont feel like its enough, however i use my phone probably more than i should or more than others. either way the LTE network is retarded fast and i'd never want 3g.
First off I just want to say I owned a droid 2 and it wasn't that bad. I jumped to the thunderbolt just to lock in the 4g rate. The bigger screen is a nice plus but other than that is the same thing. I wasn't overly impressed as other owners of the droid x and 2 have stated is not that big of a jump.
Before I end let me just say other than software wise android phones are exactly where I want them. I don't need a dual core chip in my phone and 4g is. good enough for anything I would ever want to do with my phone. I'm sure most of you will disagree but that's just how I feel. Flame away!
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I picked up a TB on craigslist for $350. The custom roms still seem a bit premature, however they should evolve over time. Nonetheless it's an amazing phone. If you have a desk job or spend a lot of time in your car, the battery life is not much of an issue. Just stay plugged in.
Got my TB off Craigslist for a fascinate trade plus 150$. I love it so far.. 4g is amazing..once you.have it you won't want to go back.
Roms are not bad. I'm waiting for a complete cm7 or sense 3.0 rom but other than that das bamf runs fantastic.
If you have the cash and want a great phone with a growing dev community, go for it.
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Thank you for all the input.
It's funny the other 2 forums told me I'm a moron and this one says Buy a TB!!!
I use over 2GB of data a month so the 4G unlimited (Hopefully grandfathered for life) makes it very tempting since my upgrade isn't till mid July which is around the time the rumors of tiered data plans landing. I'm also not to optimistic about an actual new phone coming out then. Maybe the SGSII but I really hate the fact that it doesnt have a search button. It's a damn Google phone and I use the search button all the time, for GOOGLE, not Bing!
I didn't even think about craigslist. That might be a good option.
As for a cheap DX. No way. It basically is a D2 minus the keyboard. I like the keyboard, I can sacrifice it for a 4G newish phone but not for an X. and I hate the Blur invasion, and locked bootloader. My D2 has been running custom roms. They're just too laggy and buggy still. Fab, Kejar, and Rummy are awesome, but they all had DXs and the D2 ports were just not good. Most of it I blame on Blur still having to be in there. I've been running GB stock blur and custom and for the first time since my D1 ADW launcher gets kicked out of memory and has to reload when I hit home.... I hate it.
EBay is your friend. Lots of Tbolts available every day, including NIB models. Prices similar to Craigslist, depending where you are.
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It's funny the other 2 forums told me I'm a moron and this one says Buy a TB!!!
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well... if you go to an iphone forum I'm sure they'd say get an iphone! we are only somewhat biased here
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EBay is your friend. Lots of Tbolts available every day, including NIB models. Prices similar to Craigslist, depending where you are.
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Honestly I never buy anything without having it in my hands first. Learned my lesson when eBay burned me not once but twice.
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Nexus to name just 1
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well... if you go to an iphone forum I'm sure they'd say get an iphone! we are only somewhat biased here
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Haha it wasn't an iphone forum. they were android and droid forums.
Get the tbolt. You will not regret it.
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Hey everyone,
My contract with AT&T just expired and I may switch to Verizon to go for the Galaxy Nexus or Razor Maxx. However, I like the Galaxy SII that AT&T only offers. I currently have a Captivate and love it. I just want to know if anyone has any opinions on the SGSII or Nexus. Thanks
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Hey everyone,
My contract with AT&T just expired and I may switch to Verizon to go for the Galaxy Nexus or Razor Maxx. However, I like the Galaxy SII that AT&T only offers. I currently have a Captivate and love it. I just want to know if anyone has any opinions on the SGSII or Nexus. Thanks
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I still have my captivate but it just collects dust after getting my att sgs2. I'm pretty unsure why you would even have to consider upgrading to a phone that is 100 times better then the captivate.
Well the Captivate was the first Android I had and it's so versatile. And I see developers are porting ICS for it. But I can't argue with the power and awesomeness of the SGS2
if I were you I would try an ics ROM. I would recommend docs Master ics (v3.1)
My cappy is blazing fast. I'm talking 0 lag!
MC 3 runs completely smooth with not a hint of stutter or lag. That's with no over clocking! When I oc/live oc it with nstools, I can get it up to 1500mghz.
Run it for a while and wait for the sgs 3.
Hope this helps you on your decision.
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I'm loving ICS and the anker battery on the cappy, it changed my decision on wanting to upgrade now. My upgrade was eligible last Oct, but I holding out till summer when all the quad-cores come out (I HOPE!!).
Yea, I guess waiting is always an option, especially if more powerful phones are still to come! I'll look more into ICS and see what I can do, I'm on Serendipity 7 right now and it's pretty laggy, at least for me.
I went from a Captivate running S7 to a SGSII. To say the SGSII blows away the Captivate is an understatement. I have felt zero need to even root the phone yet. It is great out of the box. Fast, stable, great battery life. Not one force close since I got it 6-7 weeks ago FYI, still running 2.3.4 Gingerbread. If you get one, don't update to 2.3.6. It has battery drain issues.
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FC out of the box was never an issue. Why anyone would buy a new phone that is only running GB is beyond me. If I was in a position to switch carriers I'd go with the Nexus, you're getting the good stuff that everyone else is just trying to catch up to.
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FC out of the box was never an issue. Why anyone would buy a new phone that is only running GB is beyond me. If I was in a position to switch carriers I'd go with the Nexus, you're getting the good stuff that everyone else is just trying to catch up to.
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Well isn't the sgs2 slated for an ICS upgrade? I know Samsung said that the captivate won't get ICS. And we all know how much of an ordeal it was just to get froyo, let alone gingerbread on it, so it'll probably be the same way for the sgs2, but it has better specs than the Nexus
If I were you I would upgrade in a heart beat. Hardware-wise the Captivate just can't compete with the dual-cores phone you mentioned. And the battery from the Maxx is a beast!
Keep in mind that AT&T is now charging doubled the upgrade fee (from $18 to $36). Switching to Verzion can easily get you free activation + free shipping via some online retailer in addition to their "Twice the data, same low price" data promo, which is quite a deal unless you got grandfathered with AT&T previous data plan.
I also loved the Galaxy S II, only downside is no 4G LTE with the exception of the Skyrocket. Rumor has it that Skyrocket HD is coming to AT&T, with a full 720p Super AMOLED screen upgrade from a 480x800. You might want to wait on that.
Just my two cents.
task650 said:
I still have my captivate but it just collects dust after getting my att sgs2. I'm pretty unsure why you would even have to consider upgrading to a phone that is 100 times better then the captivate.
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What he said
I still love my C(r)aptivate. I loathed it something aweful because of the utterly fail GPS, but all-in-all it's still a fantastic phone. Seeing that I have the LG Thrill as my main phone(I use nav a lot and needed better gps or i wouldn't have) which just came out and is still on FROYO and a phone that came out last July already has Gingerbread...It's nice to know that it is still supported. A lot is to be said about not having a contract being held over your head too. Personally if I were you I would keep the Captivate and leave my options open. Some awesome phones will be coming out Q3 this year. I'm looking forward to the Tegra 3 powered HTC Endeavor. Bide your time and know you can jump ship to another carrier any time you choose. IMHO
Yea, the GPS was a huge fail, I actually sent back my first one because apparently the first manufactured devices were "defective" but even after I got a new one my GPS didn't improve much. The captivate is under powered, but it sounds like some pretty awesome phones are in the works and not having a contract allows for some breathing room. I guess I'll just see which carrier releases the most desirable phone in the next few months or so and go from there.
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I have felt zero need to even root the phone yet. It is great out of the box. Fast, stable, great battery life. Not one force close since I got it 6-7 weeks ago FYI, still running 2.3.4 Gingerbread.
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Really? No interests in customization? Cuz rooting the phone for reasons you listed is a rather poor use of root access... No such thing as "good" stock!
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The captivate is under powered,
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No it's not, if anything call it "outdated." The device is getting close to two years old! When it came out no one was honestly considering a PHONE having a dual-core CPU. In all honesty they don't need it! Quad-core is just ridicules... The ICS ROMs we have now show that the phone is by no means under powered.
As to the other idea, all I can say is that AT&T seems to be getting more and more greedy, their practices more sleazy... Or at least being faster to jump on ways to improve profits and reduce costs, of which we the customers are seeing no benefits...
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Improve profits and reduce costs as in raise rates and reduce services. Or Promise a technology, then abandon it before fruition. I liked the falsely advertising a technology ploy. I've been with this phone service since it was Cingular, which in my opinion was a far better company. It's been getting harder and harder to renew my contract. I find myself peering over the fence to see how green the grass is on the other side.
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Improve profits and reduce costs as in raise rates and reduce services. Or Promise a technology, then abandon it before fruition. I liked the falsely advertising a technology ploy. I've been with this phone service since it was Cingular, which in my opinion was a far better company. It's been getting harder and harder to renew my contract. I find myself peering over the fence to see how green the grass is on the other side.
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I know what you mean here... I've been with them since Cingular as well and I know the prices will go up over time, but their service hasn't improved one bit. One big bonus of Verizon is the coverage they have nationwide is FAR superior to AT&T's. When you have to sell a Microcell to imporve coverage in your customer's houses, you know you need to upgrade your service. Verizon will probably end up having the better LTE network too, as AT&T never went nationwide 3G, as Verizon did looong ago
I'm switching to Verizon as well in March. Why? Att and their throttling madness .I get throttle every month right around the 2gb mark 2 weeks into my billing cycle after that data is unusable. I just sold my Sgs2 skyrocket yesterday using the captivate until my contract is over .
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I got the captivate the second day the phone came out, so I have the phone with all the problems. I ALMOST upgraded to the SGS2, until teamhacksung's ICS rom came out. It runs so smoothly that it actually makes my captivate usable! I would suggest waiting for the SGS3; thats what I am doing. Why buy a phone that has been out for a long time (SGS2) when the upgrade is just around the corner!
No matter how good these ROMs get, it is impossible to fix my terrible GPS, connection dropping issues, battery drains, and random crashes.
I just read an article about the throttling and how inconsistent it is at various data limits. I just can't believe they get away with it. It just shows how inferior their network is to Verizon if Verizon can handle it smoothly. Yea the SGS3 is worth waiting for. I think I'm gonna try ICS on my Captivate for now and hopefully that will hold me long enough. I just hate that it doesn't have a front facing camera.
Cappy still rules!
1. On stock ROMs - they don't cut it. XDA matured to fix all bugs and shortcomings of manufacturer ROM.
2. May be skip AT&T upgrade alltogether? See what they did to GSII Skyrocket and Note? Bastardized and downgraded to Snapdragon old chip.
3. Get GSII from ebay, may be? It is around 500 now.