As above
I'm getting a straight trade +100~
Would out be worth it? Sounds nice......but.....its locked down and still only on froyo :/
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What its a straight trade +100~?
If you are getting atrix plus $100 then there is your answer, but if you are throwing in $100 with your captivate then no its not worth it.
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What its a straight trade +100~?
If you are getting atrix plus $100 then there is your answer, but if you are throwing in $100 with your captivate then no its not worth it.
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throwing in 100 with my captivate
can I ask why is it not worth it to you?
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throwing in 100 with my captivate
can I ask why is it not worth it to you?
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I hava an Atrix and a Captivate. I love both phones. He is right though, its not worth it. I would say that you should wait, hold off a few months and wait for the SGS II. AT&T has a variant coming sometime this year, and with the rollout of their LTE network starting this summer, you have to imagine that the SGS II would be a great canidate to be one of their 1st LTE enabled phones (that's personal opinion, not based on any verified info). Aside from that, the performance differences between the two phones is noticable, but not DRASTIC. Having actual, working GPS is nice, and some of the other features are cool, but honestly I would say wait.
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I hava an Atrix and a Captivate. I love both phones. He is right though, its not worth it. I would say that you should wait, hold off a few months and wait for the SGS II. AT&T has a variant coming sometime this year, and with the rollout of their LTE network starting this summer, you have to imagine that the SGS II would be a great canidate to be one of their 1st LTE enabled phones (that's personal opinion, not based on any verified info). Aside from that, the performance differences between the two phones is noticable, but not DRASTIC. Having actual, working GPS is nice, and some of the other features are cool, but honestly I would say wait.
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well TBH, I don't really mind about the SoC other than the fact that its a dual and it would be significantly better than the single core that my captivate has.
and I don't live in the states, so I"m not really affected about LTE and such since we don't have LTE or anything where I live.
what I am worried about is the locked bootloader and such cause I can safetly run gingerbread on my captivate, but I won't be able to be on gingerbread once I'm on the atrix and my ROM choices and tweakign and such will be very limited until we can get the bootloader unlocked since motorola is such an ass to lock it.
I'm still debating this....with half of me saying "no" and half of me saying "yes"
does your atrix "feel faster or smoother" compared to the captivate?
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well TBH, I don't really mind about the SoC other than the fact that its a dual and it would be significantly better than the single core that my captivate has.
and I don't live in the states, so I"m not really affected about LTE and such since we don't have LTE or anything where I live.
what I am worried about is the locked bootloader and such cause I can safetly run gingerbread on my captivate, but I won't be able to be on gingerbread once I'm on the atrix and my ROM choices and tweakign and such will be very limited until we can get the bootloader unlocked since motorola is such an ass to lock it.
I'm still debating this....with half of me saying "no" and half of me saying "yes"
does your atrix "feel faster or smoother" compared to the captivate?
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Ahh, then yea all the AT&T stuff is kinda irrelevant, lol. The rom choices out there are minimal due to the bootloader encryption, obviously, but there is a HELL of a lot of working going on to fix that. Don't want to speak too soon but we may be close. Khoulk, tenfar, TBH, and a bunch of others are working on it. The Atrix is faster and smoother, yes, but we still don't even have an ETA for Gingerbread.
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Ahh, then yea all the AT&T stuff is kinda irrelevant, lol. The rom choices out there are minimal due to the bootloader encryption, obviously, but there is a HELL of a lot of working going on to fix that. Don't want to speak too soon but we may be close. Khoulk, tenfar, TBH, and a bunch of others are working on it. The Atrix is faster and smoother, yes, but we still don't even have an ETA for Gingerbread.
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so do you"feel" that my captivate+100 would be a decent deal for a nice more "up to date" phone?
cheers
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so do you"feel" that my captivate+100 would be a decent deal for a nice more "up to date" phone?
cheers
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I have an atrix and since i have bought it i love my cappy more. The only thing better in atrix is GPS from end user perspective. Somebody was right when he mentioned that maybe its a better idea to wait for galaxy S II
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I have an atrix and since i have bought it i love my cappy more. The only thing better in atrix is GPS from end user perspective. Somebody was right when he mentioned that maybe its a better idea to wait for galaxy S II
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If you don't mind....can I ask you why do you like your captivate more?
Thanks
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If you don't mind....can I ask you why do you like your captivate more?
Thanks
Swyped from my gingerfied captivate
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I would check online to see what the going rate for a used captivate is before offering it up + 100 for the Atrix. Compare that to the price for an off-contract atrix and you'll have your answer as to whether or not its a "fair" trade, value wise. Comparing the two phones to each other depends on how much you value aftermarket development. I'm a hardcore themer and that's why I kept my cappy. I haven't released anything for the Atrix yet, and I've had it almost since launch. I was able to get the Atrix through work at no cost, so it was win-win for me. Hardware wise, it is superior (except for the screen. Super Am. beats out the qhd 960x540 IMO). Development wise, there's no contest. Cappy is on Gingerbread. End of discussion. Its a trade-off either way. That's why I said wait for the SGS II to become available whereever you're at: dev friendly + hardware that is equal to or bettan than the atrix is almost every way. They're both great phones, IMO... but the SGS II is gonna be even better. And some phone that no one knows about that will be announced 2 months from now will be even better than the SGS II, lol.
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I would check online to see what the going rate for a used captivate is before offering it up + 100 for the Atrix. Compare that to the price for an off-contract atrix and you'll have your answer as to whether or not its a "fair" trade, value wise. Comparing the two phones to each other depends on how much you value aftermarket development. I'm a hardcore themer and that's why I kept my cappy. I haven't released anything for the Atrix yet, and I've had it almost since launch. I was able to get the Atrix through work at no cost, so it was win-win for me. Hardware wise, it is superior (except for the screen. Super Am. beats out the qhd 960x540 IMO). Development wise, there's no contest. Cappy is on Gingerbread. End of discussion. Its a trade-off either way. That's why I said wait for the SGS II to become available whereever you're at: dev friendly + hardware that is equal to or bettan than the atrix is almost every way. They're both great phones, IMO... but the SGS II is gonna be even better. And some phone that no one knows about that will be announced 2 months from now will be even better than the SGS II, lol.
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going rate for the captivate is around 300~ but then the atrix goes for alot more as well........
Maybe I should just wait longer for more dual core phones.....?
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I definitely wouldn't do it - the Captivate just has so much more to offer with a thriving developer community. The Atrix is supposedly on the verge of being rooted, but it will likely take awhile for things to really boom (and there's no telling when the root will even be successful). I have a few friends with the Atrix, and while it looks to be a decent phone, most complain about battery life and call quality.
I'm no fanboy - I'd jump ship from the Captivate tomorrow if the price was right and hardware/software looked to be legit, but right now the Captivate feels like one of the best possible phones a regular user and geek can have.
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I definitely wouldn't do it - the Captivate just has so much more to offer with a thriving developer community. The Atrix is supposedly on the verge of being rooted, but it will likely take awhile for things to really boom (and there's no telling when the root will even be successful). I have a few friends with the Atrix, and while it looks to be a decent phone, most complain about battery life and call quality.
I'm no fanboy - I'd jump ship from the Captivate tomorrow if the price was right and hardware/software looked to be legit, but right now the Captivate feels like one of the best possible phones a regular user and geek can have.
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The devs have already rooted the phone I think. They are trying to unlock the bootloader.
Don't do it OP. After messing around on an Atrix for awhile, it is a good phone but feels a little finnicky.
A captivate on GB feels a lot smoother than a stock Froyo Atrix IMO.
My opinion you would be paying for a downgrade
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I definitely wouldn't do it - the Captivate just has so much more to offer with a thriving developer community. The Atrix is supposedly on the verge of being rooted, but it will likely take awhile for things to really boom (and there's no telling when the root will even be successful). I have a few friends with the Atrix, and while it looks to be a decent phone, most complain about battery life and call quality.
I'm no fanboy - I'd jump ship from the Captivate tomorrow if the price was right and hardware/software looked to be legit, but right now the Captivate feels like one of the best possible phones a regular user and geek can have.
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its already rooted....only thign missing is the bootloader's still locked
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The devs have already rooted the phone I think. They are trying to unlock the bootloader.
Don't do it OP. After messing around on an Atrix for awhile, it is a good phone but feels a little finnicky.
A captivate on GB feels a lot smoother than a stock Froyo Atrix IMO.
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"finnicky"? don't get me wrong
I'm running CM7 and have tried other gingerbread ROM's on my captivate
but I kill the battery so fast and it slows to a halt once I try to multi task with browsing and stuff
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My opinion you would be paying for a downgrade
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why would I be paying for a downgrade?
can you describe in more detail please if you don't mind
I'm digging the front facing camera, the working GPS, and the resolution bump.
The atrix doesn't run as hot when playing games (my backplate used to burn me) or when running GPS and the battery last considerably longer.
What do you do on your phone? If you read more news and the like, the screen is great. If you watch more movies on your phone, then you might like the sammy screen better.
The fingerprint reader is nifty as well.
I am weary of samsung's gps on the infuse and the SGS II so I will steer clear..
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I'm digging the front facing camera, the working GPS, and the resolution bump.
The atrix doesn't run as hot when playing games (my backplate used to burn me) or when running GPS and the battery last considerably longer.
What do you do on your phone? If you read more news and the like, the screen is great. If you watch more movies on your phone, then you might like the sammy screen better.
The fingerprint reader is nifty as well.
I am weary of samsung's gps on the infuse and the SGS II so I will steer clear..
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I do a mix of both.....
I think i've decided....atrix it is.....now just to wait for the other party to finalize the deal
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I do a mix of both.....
I think i've decided....atrix it is.....now just to wait for the other party to finalize the deal
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In the end it's your decision. The only way you can really go wrong is if you went to the extremely locked down iphone. Enjoy your new atrix my friend.
don't do it! I have a captivate and I just bought an atrix for $300 and was planning on selling my captivate. But after using the atrix for a couple of days I decided to sell the atrix instead. It is just a bad user experience. Mainly because of the screen and the lack of response. Whenever I would use the slider to slide through contacts, it would lose track of my finger and call someone on accident. Also it is an eyesore to look at when you are scrolling.
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I've had the Captivate since XMas, and now with the Motorola Atrix being released March 1st by AT&T I have to have it.....
Why? Dual core 1Gig processors, 1 gig ram, front facing camera, FM radio, gorilla glass, 4G speeds, 1950 mah battery, a real LED light, etc..... and its a Motorola.
It's going to be a better more capable phone, but also very expensive, No price set yet, but its going for 650 euros which is 950 US give or take.
The good news is that all of the purchased apps will port over to the new phone
panflute
I don't see what's so great about it... Captivate already has Gorilla Glass, AT&T's 4G is equivalent if you already have a HSUPA-enabled Captivate, and Motorola makes some of the crappiest phones that I have ever used (not since the STAR-TAC have they made a good phone in my opinion).
People should treat these phones like our PC's. You buy one now, it's outdated around 6 months or less.
Double edge sword: Yay! I bought the latest and greatest!
****! I bought the latest and greatest 6 months ago.
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People should treat these phones like our PC's. You buy one now, it's outdated around 6 months or less.
Double edge sword: Yay! I bought the latest and greatest!
****! I bought the latest and greatest 6 months ago.
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Ain't that the truth..
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I don't see what's so great about it... Captivate already has Gorilla Glass, AT&T's 4G is equivalent if you already have a HSUPA-enabled Captivate, and Motorola makes some of the crappiest phones that I have ever used (not since the STAR-TAC have they made a good phone in my opinion).
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Just because u enable hsupa doesn't make it equivalent to the atrix 4g....technically its not really 4g...its hsupa+ which the captivate does not have.... theoretically hsupa+ can achieve 4g speeds but not regularly. I feel the atrix is going to be a far superior phone. The only thing ill miss is my super amoled. And it has motoblur which motoblows but isn't as bad as touchwhiz but im sure it wont long until it gets rooted and roms are available. Plus it ships with froyo which we still have yet to officially get
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Doesn't att always remove the FM software?
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Just because u enable hsupa doesn't make it equivalent to the atrix 4g....technically its not really 4g...its hsupa+ which the captivate does not have.... theoretically hsupa+ can achieve 4g speeds but not regularly. I feel the atrix is going to be a far superior phone. The only thing ill miss is my super amoled. And it has motoblur which motoblows but isn't as bad as touchwhiz but im sure it wont long until it gets rooted and roms are available. Plus it ships with froyo which we still have yet to officially get
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HSUPA has nothing to really do with AT&T's 4g claims, it is HSDPA(which the captivate has) versus HSDPA+. It has more to do with download speed than upload. HSUPA is all about faster uploads. That is what is enabled by using an i9000 ROM, kernel, and modem. All current Galaxy S phones have HSDPA compatible modems, both physically and in software. The Captivate just got gimped without HSUPA speeds.
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Man its getting harder to keep up to. More than he crappy ass reality shows on TV.
*GalaxyS*
I'm confused by this thread. The title is a question, but the OP is a statement on getting the Atrix. How about making a question on the Captivate or go to the thread about what your future phone will be as that is older than this thread.
To upgrade or not?
And is it really an upgrade? I think this is a valid topic here since we all got our Captivates relatively recently. Since posting I found more info on the Tecra 2 processors. There are at least 5 phones set to be released and more coming for sure. The LG looks interesting too. I hear Motorola locked the bootloader on the Atrix. It may be too early to jump into an upgrade at this very moment till more details and facts are out. Cellhut is taking preorders for at Atrix ate $449, but there is a lot of negative comments out there on their business practices so that may be ill advised.
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And is it really an upgrade? I think this is a valid topic here since we all got our Captivates relatively recently. Since posting I found more info on the Tecra 2 processors. There are at least 5 phones set to be released and more coming for sure. The LG looks interesting too. I hear Motorola locked the bootloader on the Atrix. It may be too early to jump into an upgrade at this very moment till more details and facts are out. Cellhut is taking preorders for at Atrix ate $449, but there is a lot of negative comments out there on their business practices so that may be ill advised.
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If you would have made your OP a question then it would have made more sense. You made a statement that "I have to have it." The bootloader will eventually get cracked, that is only a matter of time once the phone comes out. If you like Moto phones which seem up in the air for build quality that is up to you. Spec wise the Atrix is an upgrade, but that doesn't mean the Captivate or other SGS phones will be less superior. You also have to want the larger screen size and the fact it isn't SAMOLED.
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I've had the Captivate since XMas, and now with the Motorola Atrix being released March 1st by AT&T I have to have it.....
Why? Dual core 1Gig processors, 1 gig ram, front facing camera, FM radio, gorilla glass, 4G speeds, 1950 mah battery, a real LED light, etc..... and its a Motorola.
It's going to be a better more capable phone, but also very expensive, No price set yet, but its going for 650 euros which is 950 US give or take.
The good news is that all of the purchased apps will port over to the new phone
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So what your saying is a phone coming out later is going to be better then the Captivate? I would hope it will be. Way to state the obvious bud.
But no, I will not be "upgrading" from the Captivate any time soon. The Captivate can do everything I need it to right now, and when I do upgrade to a new phone, it will be to a phone that is vastly more powerful, not just a little like the Atrix. Also I don't buy Motorola phones because they are garbage.
Upgrades upgrades upgrades....You guys will never be happy.
http://www.engadget.com/2011/01/24/nvidia-tegra-3-equipped-with-1-5ghz-quad-core-madness-teased-b/
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I don't buy Motorola phones because they are garbage.
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I wana get the captivate or should I wait to get nexus s on march? Please help me decide
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Wait and get the Atrix.
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Wait and get the Atrix.
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I bet what the Atrix can do the captivate does better. But thats just me....
No one knows yet if the atrix will have a locked bootloader! If so it would be dumb to buy it IMO.
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I believe the Nexus S and the Captivate have the same hardware, but I may be wrong...but if I am right I say go for the Captivate because I don't like the Nuxus S form factor (Basically the metal back plate of the Captivate vs the Nexus S plastic backplate)
Hmm whoever says Captivate does better then Atrix will, is just biased in a way. I mean I got a captivate and gave it to my brother, he really wanted to try android and he doesn't get in to phones that much.
I loved the phone, only because I rooted it and stuff and samsung sucks with updates. If you dont wanna mess around with your phone then atrix hands down will blow away captivate, performance and feature wise. Buying captivate right now is just bad choice. Dual core processor, tegra 2, hdmi out.
Plus I have to give credit where its due. Motorola has really stepped up their game in updating their phones with latest android. I have no doubts that they will have gingerbread on Atrix in the coming months.
I think Atrix will be launching earlier then previously thought, mainly because verizon is getting iphone 4 and att will counter that with atrix 4g. Plus Atrix 4g is the only phone launching that is ready for Att's LTE network.
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Agreed, I really hope those that are use to customizing their Captivate understand the bootloader situation with the Atrix. Or you will be disappointed.
I for one, don't mind running it stock (hoping it's able to be rooted). I just want reliability and stability from this phone, plus the webtop looks kickass.
I will still keep the Captivate for my other line, and buy the Atrix off contract (no chipin required ) after a month or so of it's release to see how all this plays out. Patience will save you from buyers remorse
I'm avoiding Samsung products at all costs. #neveragain
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I'm avoiding Samsung products at all costs. #neveragain
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Move over, I think I'll be in the same boat My main line will either be the Atrix or HTC. The other will have to be the Captivate for a little while, but I'll have fun tweaking the hell out of it
If you want the latest and greatest..then wait..If not..get one now..You got 30 days to decide once you get it..With what has been ported for the Captivate you have many many choices..and you don't really know what the phone your waiting for will have or do..or be capable of doing. I suspect if not on the upcoming generation of new phones..then by the 1.4 to 1.6 dual cores..the boot loader will be locked..and you will have a a harder time doing anything with it..so...if it were me trying to decide...I would pick up a brand new Captivate right now..trick it out..and enjoy the hell out of it..The old saying is appropriate in this case..." A bird in the hand...is worth 2 in the bush..."
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I'm projecting the latest and greatest will only last 3 to 6 months. So whatever you purchase, just be sure your content with it. Unless you have money to burn.
I doubt that Motorola will lock the bootloader on the Atrix.
Either way, the Atrix will run circles around the lowly Captivate.
Motorola locked the bootloader on the droid x and it was still hands down better then the captivate, I owned both would have stuck with droid x if verizon had better coverage in my area. I almost regret giving it up and just sticking out the ****ty signal. So more then likely bootloader will be locked but it will be cracked. and even if locked bootloader no way in hell will the captivate be better at anything over atrix, captivate had nothing on x and atrix does even more, so what is captivate gonna do to even be on par with it? samsung has moved on from the captivate so should u. anytime a manufacture moves on that quick from a device even a device selling in the numbers it is, its a bad sign. Besides Motorola been in phone biz way longer then any of them, I had a startak and it was a sweet phone of the time. And those big stupid phones way back in the day that was huge that was motorola aswell.
I say wait. A locked bootloader having Atrix > the Captivate (stock, custom ROM, steroids, etc. lol)
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Motorola locked the bootloader on the droid x
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I think they now recognize what XDA/Custom ROMs can do for their phone(s) in a positive way, and they'll come to some sort of compromise.
What that is, and if it's good enough, remains to be seen.
lol.... all these complicated answers.... just buy it youll have fun
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Motorola locked the bootloader on the droid x and it was still hands down better then the captivate, I owned both would have stuck with droid x if verizon had better coverage in my area. I almost regret giving it up and just sticking out the ****ty signal. So more then likely bootloader will be locked but it will be cracked. and even if locked bootloader no way in hell will the captivate be better at anything over atrix, captivate had nothing on x and atrix does even more, so what is captivate gonna do to even be on par with it? samsung has moved on from the captivate so should u. anytime a manufacture moves on that quick from a device even a device selling in the numbers it is, its a bad sign. Besides Motorola been in phone biz way longer then any of them, I had a startak and it was a sweet phone of the time. And those big stupid phones way back in the day that was huge that was motorola aswell.
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The only thing i would have to disagree on in a way is the part of Samsung moving away so fast on a great selling product. It doesn't necessarily mean they didn;t like it and need to replace it fast.. it could just be that they want to get to work on their next "latest and greatest" to beat the captivate is all.. but who knows.. unless they posted that they made a mistake, i would be willing to bet that they are just trying to get their next best phone out is all.. So far, i believe the captivate is the best selling android through ATT at the moment. i am not up to date on the rest though . ive heard good things about the nexus S, but the one thing I heard aobut it that kinda made me go for captivate is that supposed nexus S took away the SD slot?? and this made captivate have largest storage capacity.. but ive been happy with it so far.. wife loves it and eventually when i get a new one, will give her mine ..
one thing i do wonder is since ATT is now coming out with their 4G, i cant recall if I am going to need to replace my phone or just my SIM to get the 4G capability,, any recall off hand? pretty sure it was the phone that I will need to replace, but would be great if only needed the sim
As I said: Wait for the Atrix. Motorola actually updates their phones. Don't like Motoblur? Download ADW.Launcher or Launcher Pro. Android 2.2 already does everything I need in a phone OS and I'm sure they'll bring Gingerbread to the Atrix.
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The only thing i would have to disagree on in a way is the part of Samsung moving away so fast on a great selling product. It doesn't necessarily mean they didn;t like it and need to replace it fast.. it could just be that they want to get to work on their next "latest and greatest" to beat the captivate is all.. but who knows.. unless they posted that they made a mistake, i would be willing to bet that they are just trying to get their next best phone out is all.. So far, i believe the captivate is the best selling android through ATT at the moment. i am not up to date on the rest though . ive heard good things about the nexus S, but the one thing I heard aobut it that kinda made me go for captivate is that supposed nexus S took away the SD slot?? and this made captivate have largest storage capacity.. but ive been happy with it so far.. wife loves it and eventually when i get a new one, will give her mine ..
one thing i do wonder is since ATT is now coming out with their 4G, i cant recall if I am going to need to replace my phone or just my SIM to get the 4G capability,, any recall off hand? pretty sure it was the phone that I will need to replace, but would be great if only needed the sim
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You would have to get a new phone. Our modems are not HSPA+ compliant.
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Hey guys. I'm actually relatively new on the forums, though I've had my Captivate since December last year. I have been using ROMs from these forums since the third day I had my phone, I just never registered.
Anyway, I just feel I should make a post thanking everyone. Mostly MikeyMike01 and ChanceM, because the third ROM I ever flashed was Serendipity. And I've been using Serendipity since then. I have indeed flashed things in between, but the longest I've ever had a non-Serendipity ROM on my phone has been less than an hour. So it's safe to say that Serendipity is a physical part of my phone now... In fact, since I'm getting the HTC Inspire, my brother is getting my Captivate (his first Android phone), and the ROM that I pre-loaded for him is Serendipity 5.12. That's how much I trust/love this ROM.
Anyway, does anyone have any opinions on the HTC Inspire? I remember seeing one other person in these forums who switched to the same phone, saying that it seemed like a more sturdy phone.
I will thoroughly miss these Captivate forums though. Thanks are as follows:
MikeyMike01
ChanceM
existz (I use SuckerPunch-Voodoo)
Samsung (LOL I use the KP1 modem, dunno who to thank for this one)
Anyone else who has some sort of mod on my phone.
its way faster and way more enjoyable, I wouldnt go back for nothing u will definately like it.
I couldn't justify spending $500 on a software upgrade.
The SGS2 seems interesting though. Have to find a place to import it fit a reasonable price... The international version is completely AT&T compatible.
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I couldn't justify spending $500 on a software upgrade.
The SGS2 seems interesting though. Have to find a place to import it fit a reasonable price... The international version is completely AT&T compatible.
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but...it's made by samsung!
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but...it's made by samsung!
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We've already proven that Samsung isn't the problem, its at&t. The i9000 already getting gingerbread.
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We've already proven that Samsung isn't the problem, its at&t. The i9000 already getting gingerbread.
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That doesn't change how poorly Samsung codes their ROMs..
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That doesn't change how poorly Samsung codes their ROMs..
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I think Samsung does a decent job, the i9000 roms are pretty close to perfect without any mods.
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I think Samsung does a decent job, the i9000 roms are pretty close to perfect without any mods.
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I wouldn't push it that far....
After weighing all the pros and cons of the Galaxy S series and the upcoming 2 (talking about the internation/original here), the Galaxy S 2 will most likely be my next device. Decent build, decent software, hardware is top notch, and that screen is something I can't drop now that I've stared at it for so long. Knowing that the international Galaxy S 2 works with AT&T's HSPA+ bands without modifications is also a deciding factor.
please help me out. I'm with rogers canada they are sending me iphone 4. There is no way ill use or open it cause of previous experience. So I'm gonna sell it for 500. Now if you had to buy any of this phone which you would get? Atrix, sgs2, dhd, or nexus s. DHD already available here and nexus s and atrix coming this month. Sgs2 heard somewhere at&t version will be available. So which you would get?
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jc2470 said:
its way faster and way more enjoyable, I wouldnt go back for nothing u will definately like it.
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So I've heard.
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I couldn't justify spending $500 on a software upgrade.
The SGS2 seems interesting though. Have to find a place to import it fit a reasonable price... The international version is completely AT&T compatible.
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I'd never pay that much for a phone. I'm buying it because my father's iPhone 4 is now eligible for upgrade, but he doesn't want a new phone so we're using his upgrade for mine.
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We've already proven that Samsung isn't the problem, its at&t. The i9000 already getting gingerbread.
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Agreed for the most part. AT&T held back the Froyo ROM without a doubt for stupid reasons, but we aren't sure if the i9000 is actually getting Gingerbread. Yeah, it was leaked, but so was Froyo way back when. I understand that Froyo wasn't released for our phone mostly because of AT&T, but you can't be so sure; it's still just a "leak".
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I think Samsung does a decent job, the i9000 roms are pretty close to perfect without any mods.
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Not true at all. Serendipity is the closest I've found to perfect, but it's still a ROM. From experience and from hearing other people speak about the Inspire, you don't really even need to put a ROM on the HTC Inspire 4G for it to be perfect. I'm definitely going to flash something (maybe something that'll remove Sense UI, I'm not sure if I'll like it), but most of the features in the ROMs are already found on the phone as stock.
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please help me out. I'm with rogers canada they are sending me iphone 4. There is no way ill use or open it cause of previous experience. So I'm gonna sell it for 500. Now if you had to buy any of this phone which you would get? Atrix, sgs2, dhd, or nexus s. DHD already available here and nexus s and atrix coming this month. Sgs2 heard somewhere at&t version will be available. So which you would get?
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I would not get the DHD. I have a friend who has it, and it's just overhyped. It's not as good as everyone makes it seem.
The Nexus S is pretty much like this phone in which you'll have the same amount of development. The hardware may be different in technical respects, but the same in user experience.
The SGS 2 isn't released yet, but when it is, it's going to be a great phone. If it was already released, I'd consider buying it, but I'm not going to wait for it to come out.
The Atrix is somewhat overkill, but if you're entering college or have a need for a netbook/small laptop with basic features (e-mail, Facebook, etc.), then the Atrix is for you. It's just expensive, even with a contract.
Also, please post questions in the Q&A forum; that's why it's there.
Try Cognition 4.1 on your captivate. You won't be disappointed.
The Inspire kicks ass.
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Between CM7 and MIUI on the Inspire it blows anything and everything out of the water in the Captivate/i9000 forums. After seeing how Samsung utterly destroys their phones with Touchwiz, I'll never buy a Samsung phone again.
Go with the Inspire and you will not be disappointed.
So DHD is not that good but inspire 4G is recommended? it's a bit confusing. Isn't the inspire 4G just a DHD with another name? Is there something I am missing?
The inspire is a downgrade hardware wise. Should of held out for something more amazing that's coming out this year. If it doesn't have a dual core I'm not interested.
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So DHD is not that good but inspire 4G is recommended? it's a bit confusing. Isn't the inspire 4G just a DHD with another name? Is there something I am missing?
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They are basically the same phone. So that suggestion doesn't make much sense...
Inspire is a downgrade in hardware but upgrade in software. Add to that the rooting is quite a pain compared to the captivate...
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So DHD is not that good but inspire 4G is recommended? it's a bit confusing. Isn't the inspire 4G just a DHD with another name? Is there something I am missing?
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Ohhhhh I thought you were talking about a phone that doesn't exist (Droid HD anyone?).
Anyway, yes, the phones are almost completely similar. It's just that the DHD is European, I believe.
eramming said:
The inspire is a downgrade hardware wise. Should of held out for something more amazing that's coming out this year. If it doesn't have a dual core I'm not interested.
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How so? It has a lower pixel density and a Super LCD, which are both a downgrade, but I don't watch videos on my phone. Otherwise, how is it a downgrade? It has 700 somewhat MB of RAM, gets amazing Quad and Linpack scores compared to the Captivate (I don't base opinions on benchmarks, though), and Sense UI, though I might not use Sense...
the insipire isnt much of an upgrade. did u already get it? i personally would still take my captivate over it
I honestly can't see any of the current phones destroy the captivate in functionality and flexibility except for the nexus S. Pure google + decent specs.
The inspire blows cap away in speed, everyone in inspire forums will tell u that and almost all of them are previous captivate owners and switched to it, even blows the atrix away, call it a downgrade or whatever put whatever spin u like on it and its still the top phone to beat. and it works out of the box the radio even works great, i get no random shut downs my battery consumption is better then cappy, I dont get lag at all, it will load any program faster and run it better then the cappy did, watch a video on youtube about it, http://www.smartphoneenvy.com/featured/face-off-htc-inspire-4g-vs-samsung-captivate/ and yes no doubt there will be more better phones out this year same as 6 months from then there will be even more, with my 6 month early upgrade it cost me 300 to get it which I certainly can live with, in 6 months i will get another of the better phones out of the time.
I gave my Cap to my aunt. I have Serendipity 5.12 on it and MIUI on my Inspire. I have around 75 apps on the Inspire and it booted quicker, unlocked quicker, and the notification bar pulled down with no lag at all.
I was running CM7 on it and it was even faster than that.
The screen difference isn't that big of a deal, either, and I've stared at the SAMOLED screen since last August.
With the SGS II not coming to Canada anytime soon, Im looking for a different android phone to play around with and probably end up keeping in the long run. I was dead set on getting an Atrix purely for the power of the phone and the lapdock accessory, after seeing most of the reviews saying that I was better off getting an actual laptop for the same price and could do far more itself, Im kinda leaning off the Atrix trail atm. So I was thinking about either the Nexus S or the HTC Incredible S. Or should I still go ahead with the Atrix (Even though that pretty little bootloader still aint unlocked)?
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With the SGS II not coming to Canada anytime soon, Im looking for a different android phone to play around with and probably end up keeping in the long run. I was dead set on getting an Atrix purely for the power of the phone and the lapdock accessory, after seeing most of the reviews saying that I was better off getting an actual laptop for the same price and could do far more itself, Im kinda leaning off the Atrix trail atm. So I was thinking about either the Nexus S or the HTC Incredible S. Or should I still go ahead with the Atrix (Even though that pretty little bootloader still aint unlocked)?
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go for nexus s.u will love it
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With the SGS II not coming to Canada anytime soon, Im looking for a different android phone to play around with and probably end up keeping in the long run. I was dead set on getting an Atrix purely for the power of the phone and the lapdock accessory, after seeing most of the reviews saying that I was better off getting an actual laptop for the same price and could do far more itself, Im kinda leaning off the Atrix trail atm. So I was thinking about either the Nexus S or the HTC Incredible S. Or should I still go ahead with the Atrix (Even though that pretty little bootloader still aint unlocked)?
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Skip the Atrix as the software (and Motoblur) is terrible - the hardware is amazing, but it feels crippled by the crappy software, The HTC Incredible S is a nice phone, IMO it doesn't excel in any one category, but overall is a pretty good device. Note that if you are into modding, the Incredible S has a locked bootloader and root still has not been achieved on it for the Bell version.
The Nexus S is pretty good, but is missing a couple of things I like (LED notification light and an SD card slot), but it is a stock Google phone and should be great for modding. I'm currently on a SE Arc - overall, I think I prefer it to the Incredible S and the Nexus S.
BTW, some of the UK sellers are now selling the Galaxy S II if you want to pick one up.
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Skip the Atrix as the software (and Motoblur) is terrible - the hardware is amazing, but it feels crippled by the crappy software, The HTC Incredible S is a nice phone, IMO it doesn't excel in any one category, but overall is a pretty good device. Note that if you are into modding, the Incredible S has a locked bootloader and root still has not been achieved on it for the Bell version.
The Nexus S is pretty good, but is missing a couple of things I like (LED notification light and an SD card slot), but it is a stock Google phone and should be great for modding. I'm currently on a SE Arc - overall, I think I prefer it to the Incredible S and the Nexus S.
BTW, some of the UK sellers are now selling the Galaxy S II if you want to pick one up.
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So they would ship it across seas? :O
Also the HTC is the one I'm leading more towards ATM because when it comes to the camera on a phone, its some what a deal breaker for me.
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So they would ship it across seas? :O
Also the HTC is the one I'm leading more towards ATM because when it comes to the camera on a phone, its some what a deal breaker for me.
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Yes, they would. Check out clove.co.uk and expansys for more information.
If the Sensation has the same camera (8 MP) as the Incredible S, then I would suggest that you look at alternate camera's. While it's great to have a 8MP camera, the Incredible S camera is not as good as some of the other 8MP camera's.
Personally, I would lean towards the Galaxy S II!
i'd go with the nexus s
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Yes, they would. Check out clove.co.uk and expansys for more information.
If the Sensation has the same camera (8 MP) as the Incredible S, then I would suggest that you look at alternate camera's. While it's great to have a 8MP camera, the Incredible S camera is not as good as some of the other 8MP camera's.
Personally, I would lean towards the Galaxy S II!
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If anything ill wait till the prices go down for the sgs II lol. $900 seems a tad pricey at the moment. I might go with the attic cause of the whole dual core.
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If anything ill wait till the prices go down for the sgs II lol. $900 seems a tad pricey at the moment. I might go with the attic cause of the whole dual core.
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I think the SGS II costs about $680 (GBP440), not $900.
Anyway, I found the software on the Atrix bad enough to sell it a couple of months into ownership. There are a few issues on the Rogers/Fido network with the Atrix - e.g. capped upload speeds (max 384kb upload), issues with displaying Caller ID with name and issues with wifi hot spots. The hardware is amazing, but I wish I could install HTC Sense on it (never going to happen due to a locked bootloader).
It's your call in the end, but maybe it's better to wait for the prices to come down.
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I think the SGS II costs about $680 (GBP440), not $900.
Anyway, I found the software on the Atrix bad enough to sell it a couple of months into ownership. There are a few issues on the Rogers/Fido network with the Atrix - e.g. capped upload speeds (max 384kb upload), issues with displaying Caller ID with name and issues with wifi hot spots. The hardware is amazing, but I wish I could install HTC Sense on it (never going to happen due to a locked bootloader).
It's your call in the end, but maybe it's better to wait for the prices to come down.
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Yea was doing a bit more research on the Atrix and found out that issue as well. When you say $680, that canadian or US? The cappy i have right now, got someone to buy it for $500. So I guess forking out $200 more shouldnt hurt.
I will go for Incredible S. Why? Just preference. What I normally do is if you really can't decide, head to the shop and try the feel of the phone.
If you are leaning towards hardware and stuff, then of course would need more advise on those who had hands on experience with it.
Just my 2 cents.
Kinda thinking about grabbing a SGS 2. Just trying to find out if there's gonna be an issue ordering it to Canada and through who.
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Kinda thinking about grabbing a SGS 2. Just trying to find out if there's gonna be an issue ordering it to Canada and through who.
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I ordered the SGS2 through Clove, but you can also choose Handtec or Expansys.
I would pick the Nexus. That thing is faster stock than you're ever going to need it. SGS2 seems like a good pick but so did the first Galaxy S phones before they came out.
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I would pick the Nexus. That thing is faster stock than you're ever going to need it. SGS2 seems like a good pick but so did the first Galaxy S phones before they came out.
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SGS I with ROMS is much faster than Nexus S stock based on quadrant (not sure if true in actuality).
What do you think about HTC Aria...
nexus s for sure.
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Ill check whichever has the better deal. Gonna grab a case, screen protector and the MHL cable along with the phone.
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I would pick the Nexus. That thing is faster stock than you're ever going to need it. SGS2 seems like a good pick but so did the first Galaxy S phones before they came out.
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The Nexus S I moved on from. Camera quality wasn't all to enjoyable.
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SGS I with ROMS is much faster than Nexus S stock based on quadrant (not sure if true in actuality).
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To true. This Cappy is hitting the 2500's in AnTuTu.
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What do you think about HTC Aria...
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Never heard of it =X
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I don't think it's gonna work on Rogers bands.
Hey G2X users!!
I have been contemplating this situation for months! Now i wanna get the users personal opinion
What is your take on the LG G2X? Is it good? I looked at the specs on LG's website and im liking them. But how does it feel being used every day? Is it better or worse than the SGSII? If so by how much? I really hate buying new things cause i hate when i buy the wrong thing Thanks so much guys for your time!
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Hey G2X users!!
I have been contemplating this situation for months! Now i wanna get the users personal opinion
What is your take on the LG G2X? Is it good? I looked at the specs on LG's website and im liking them. But how does it feel being used every day? Is it better or worse than the SGSII? If so by how much? I really hate buying new things cause i hate when i buy the wrong thing Thanks so much guys for your time!
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what are the prices for them is it craigslist, or literally a new like straight from T-Mobile? Overall in my opinion SGS II or wait for a couple months and get the SGS III, or HTC One S now, I say stay from the G2X cause of lack of support from both parties that put the phone out.
Gs2 any day. Samsung processors kick nvidias sorry ass
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what are the prices for them is it craigslist, or literally a new like straight from T-Mobile? Overall in my opinion SGS II or wait for a couple months and get the SGS III, or HTC One S now, I say stay from the G2X cause of lack of support from both parties that put the phone out.
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Well the sgs2 is average 350+ and they claim it's "like new" or "used for only one week" which I find hard to believe. and the lg g2x average 200+ and I have a pre paid plan from t mobile and love it so I wouldn't be able to get the sgs3 sadly (that phone looks so sexy ) and yes the HTC one s I could most likely get but the people I've talked to about their sgs2 say the the sgs2 is better (I don't see how ) and they use that as their means for being firm about their price. Thanks for your input btw
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Gs2 any day. Samsung processors kick nvidias sorry ass
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Haha i know this however they also kick the wallet's ass too
The GS2 is more expensive, but it's a better investment. It has generally better specs, and the Development looks more promising because of Samsung's support.
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If I could go back in time, I would wait a week for the SII. It came out a week right after I got the G2x. Stock, I found the G2x to be nearly unbearable. Rooted with custom ROMs, it's good. Not sure how the development community is for the SII, but I'd still probably pick it over the G2x
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I would get a SGSII. Also, if price isn't much of an issue, the GNex is on the play store...
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I'll still go with sg2.
WHO knows when sg3 will actually come to Us even more TMobile which get everything lastly. Not too mention the price it might be.
LG sucks and 512 ram is kinda too little these days.
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Well I guess I'll have to wait xD wish I could sell my stupid Sirius satellite radio and Kyle Yamaha keyboard then I'd have plenty lol thanks all for your comments! Didn't realize the g2x was that bad it actually looked pretty sweet and in terms of development I'd just need a fully working cm7 ROM with data2ext working which takes care of the 512mb issue but I'll wait
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I just ordered a gently used G2x on ebay (they go around $200, depending on condition). This is a good value for the specs. The Galaxy S2 is $350+, which gets into a new Galaxy Nexus territory. From what I've researched, custom ROMs like CM7 should be pretty stable and fully functional, most of the problems with the G2x are software anyway. Only hardware issue is the camera dust under cover, which I plan to remedy by putting a clear tape over the LED flash, which I normally don't use anyway.
Also LG already announced ICS for Optimus 2X (international version), it's just delayed again to 3rd quarter, once that is out, one of the major problems with current CM9 ROMs should be resolved (no video acceleration or recording).
Speaking from experience, I have both phones.
GS2 wins for stability, just works, and has a better camera than the LG G2X. But..... personally I'm not thrilled with the GS2 device for the sheer size.
I've used G2X for almost a year. You just have to find a ROM you can live with and make tweaks so that it won't freeze/crash while charging. Other than that, phone is solid. CM7 was best ROM and overall performance. Stock gave best battery but I can't stand STOCK ROMs.
But the biggest reason I really switched to the GS2 was sick of the random crazy battery life and the GPS never working when I need it for emergencies.
I made the mistake of not test driving the GS2 on T-mobile store to get a better feel. Big screen with low resolution is what pisses me off, on top of the fact that the size of the phone isn't friendly to my small hands. If I overlook those two flaws, sure its awesome phone.
Also, the T989 just doesn't have a variety of ROMS available and have to wait for the official release from Tmobile, CM7 isn't reliable for it (I love CM7), and has no CM9 love yet.
I might overlook the negatives I have if Dev for T989 picked up. Until then, it works, reliable, and no headaches.
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Speaking from experience, I have both phones.
GS2 wins for stability, just works, and has a better camera than the LG G2X. But..... personally I'm not thrilled with the GS2 device for the sheer size.
I've used G2X for almost a year. You just have to find a ROM you can live with and make tweaks so that it won't freeze/crash while charging. Other than that, phone is solid. CM7 was best ROM and overall performance. Stock gave best battery but I can't stand STOCK ROMs.
But the biggest reason I really switched to the GS2 was sick of the random crazy battery life and the GPS never working when I need it for emergencies.
I made the mistake of not test driving the GS2 on T-mobile store to get a better feel. Big screen with low resolution is what pisses me off, on top of the fact that the size of the phone isn't friendly to my small hands. If I overlook those two flaws, sure its awesome phone.
Also, the T989 just doesn't have a variety of ROMS available and have to wait for the official release from Tmobile, CM7 isn't reliable for it (I love CM7), and has no CM9 love yet.
I might overlook the negatives I have if Dev for T989 picked up. Until then, it works, reliable, and no headaches.
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I don't know about you, but GPS is super fast in the March 2012 BB update. Signal is the same thou ppl have felt it got better too. Battery is alot better also.
P.S: talking about g2x here.
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I don't know about you, but GPS is super fast in the March 2012 BB update. Signal is the same thou ppl have felt it got better too. Battery is alot better also.
P.S: talking about g2x here.
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Can't use the baseband if you want a nice, custom ROM, though.
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Can't use the baseband if you want a nice, custom ROM, though.
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kwes has a custom ROM for it. The reason we have no other cuz every dev is waiting on arcee to incorporate changes that were made in new BB.
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Haha i know this however they also kick the wallet's ass too
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True. Check out swappa or look around for deals. I don't think you will find if you plan on going prepaid.
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I own a G2X, my buddy has a Sgs2 an I would not trade him dead even! The G2X is resilient and easily customizable. Dev support for the G2X is 50 to 1 compared to the Sgs2. I have (and still do) flashed numerous Roms and Kernels to my phone with little or no issue. He bricked his rather quickly. He got his second one and asked me to root and customize - which I did. I was astonished at how little there was to look at / choose from in the Samsung forums here.
bang for your buck? +1 for the G2X
better screen and lots more $$$, go for the s2.
my two pennies.
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I own a G2X, my buddy has a Sgs2 an I would not trade him dead even! The G2X is resilient and easily customizable. Dev support for the G2X is 50 to 1 compared to the Sgs2. I have (and still do) flashed numerous Roms and Kernels to my phone with little or no issue. He bricked his rather quickly. He got his second one and asked me to root and customize - which I did. I was astonished at how little there was to look at / choose from in the Samsung forums here.
bang for your buck? +1 for the G2X
better screen and lots more $$$, go for the s2.
my two pennies.
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You must be talking about T-Mobile GS2. SGS2 international is one of the best supported devices out there, has official ICS + fully functional CM9.
Sweet, love all the input guys!! Really giving me a lot to work with and make my decision harder xD
I have a few questions, I found an SGS2 CM7 ROM that lists everything as working. And i too love CM7 waiting for AOKP or CM9 to obtain all the awesome features that CM7 has then i'll make the swap.
From what you guys posted it seems like the G2X has better stability and development. And yes i am talking about the SGH-T989 i cannot use the international version on T-Mobile as it doesnt support the 1700mhz frequency so i wont get 3G.
I am really liking the SGS2 ive been on youtube looking at different videos and it looks pretty awesome. Plus the super amoled display is stunning. Also, to the person who commented on the SGS2 having a lower resolution, what exactly do you mean? Are you saying the 800x400 is too small for the size? The screen is only .2 inches bigger than my HD2 which has the same resolution and i dont see it a problem. I might get the SGS2, i do really like the Amoled display. Ugh decisions decisions xD
Thanks all for the awesome information!
Got another question, 7o both phones support more than two finger multi touch?
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