I currently own an original transformer and I want to upgrade. I get some hiccups here and there and I hate the way it looks. I've had my heart set on tf prime since july, but with all the problems I hear about it, I'm sort of worried. A plus of upgrading now would be that my tf101 is still sellable, in June it may not be. A peeve is the hundred dollars more and having to wait 4 months (money burns a hole in my pocket), but the screen does seem really nice, and it looks like alot of the issues will get fixed.
What would you guys recommend?
The tf700 doesn't have any thing more than the prime
It just have a better screen
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Well, I'm waiting - for TF700 or a new Samsung with S-Pen. TF201 has too many issues in things that are critical to me. (But I have TF101 so I have something to wait with. I'm also observing the TF201 situation and if new Transformers are without much problems I might even buy TF201.)
I'd wait for the TF700 or like tablet bit I wouldn't pre-order any of them (never again for me).
I just realized the lenovo ideapad k2 is actually better than the tf700.
It has a USB port, same screen resolution, full sized SD, 1.7ghz t3, and a fingerprint scanner.
They're also ripping Asus off and adding a keyboard dock.
I'd probably go for that one, but lenovo is probably going to throw it in the 800-1000 range.
Looks a little huskier too.
Unfortunately no more of my money will toto Asus. Half working tablet isn't a good thing.
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I just realized the lenovo ideapad k2 is actually better than the tf700.
It has a USB port, same screen resolution, full sized SD, 1.7ghz t3, and a fingerprint scanner.
They're also ripping Asus off and adding a keyboard dock.
I'd probably go for that one, but lenovo is probably going to throw it in the 800-1000 range.
Looks a little huskier too.
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Another question: will the Ideapad get support from users/dev/geeks? One of my colleague got a Toshiba Thrive, but he is stuck with a tablet that is not well supported even if the specs were not bad. I told him to buy the TF101, but he did not listen to me.
I don't say the Lenovo tablet will not be good, but for me and most people who are reading this forum, community support is an important factor. I think so...
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TF201 has too many issues in things that are critical to me.
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Too many!?!?!
I own the prime and not one single problem. A very happy proud owner. I have used g slate, toshiba thrive, blackberry playbook, and sony s. None can compare with the prime. Thats all i can say.
So.. Main question..
Is the current prime worth it... Or should i wait for tf700?!
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Another question: will the Ideapad get support from users/dev/geeks? One of my colleague got a Toshiba Thrive, but he is stuck with a tablet that is not well supported even if the specs were not bad. I told him to buy the TF101, but he did not listen to me.
I don't say the Lenovo tablet will not be good, but for me and most people who are reading this forum, community support is an important factor. I think so...
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Too many!?!?!
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Lenovo is in same boat as Toshiba. No developer support here at all..if you worried about community support, Toshiba n Lenovo will never have it here in xda. Their forums are dead..lol
Prime already has great support n more devs. Coming as soon as bootloader unlocked. We already doing great developement work without bootloader or custom roms. Just imagine once we do..
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zylor said:
So.. Main question..
Is the current prime worth it... Or should i wait for tf700?!
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I'd say go for it. If you look at all the polls here. You will see how majority of prime owners here in xda that voted feels. Plus I'm sure you've seen all the issue threads. Not to put things into perspective. Just look at The Positive Transformer thread in my signature.
Nothing is as good as it seems n nothing OS as bad as it seems...somewhere in-between, reality falls
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Yes, the issues that bother me the most and are deal breakers:
- GPS (I need a working GPS for many reasons, photo tagging being one of them),
- WiFi (I can't risk buying a device with poor WiFI that would be hard to replace and sell later),
- Touchscreen problems - some people reported poor touchscreen which is also critical to me because I write on my tablet a lot!
That is why I decided to wait for Samsung tablets with S-Pen (while using my TF101). It's my personal decision and maybe I could find a Prime without those problems, but it's too risky for me (it's a lot of cash for me and it's hard to replace a device in my country - not a lot of them around and bad customer service in most shops!). I saw a Prime running in Media Markt and it was blazingly fast compared to my TF101. So if there are no issues with your device it's probably the greatest tablet you can get. Still, the risk of problems is too big for me.
I was in the same boat as you... But then I ordered my tf201 on JAN 30th and I don't regret it!
go for it
i made a thread about this tfp i am using now and all i can say is that i love it, honestly. i was on the fence about whether or not to give it a go and had teetered toward the thrive, but i honestly am really loving the prime, granted the only issue i've noticed is with the gps so far but i'm having a snowstorm currently today and since this is day one of use, i'm still searching for any bugs or hangups. i'll be able to test the gps fully on a clear day and i hope it works well, but we shall see if anything new pops up that could be a deal breaker in the long run, but at this point i dont see anything that is too bad.
if you want to sit on your current pad and just pray the next replacement kills this bad boy, since you have a tab already why not wait? but if you're dying for the bigger better deal, the one i got is in great working order and came from an office depot "gmill" sub-warehouse in texas.
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I just caught wind of the generosity from Bestbuy in allowing users to return the TF201's under manufacturer defect. So I am contemplating my move.
is the TF700 the way to go? Or is there a better option at the same price point? I definitely dont want iOS so ill be sticking with Android, just not sure which device to push for in exchange, assuming they allow me to switch.
I see some people talking about the Note 10.1, how does that compare to these TF's?
Thanks for helping me
PS if it makes any difference, I would like to eventually Root and play with ROM's
Definitely worth the switch. I had to go to two Best Buys to make it happen (kinda my own fault), but I'm definitely happy that I did. Runs better, feels better. Go for it.
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I just caught wind of the generosity from Bestbuy in allowing users to return the TF201's under manufacturer defect. So I am contemplating my move.
is the TF700 the way to go? Or is there a better option at the same price point? I definitely dont want iOS so ill be sticking with Android, just not sure which device to push for in exchange, assuming they allow me to switch.
I see some people talking about the Note 10.1, how does that compare to these TF's?
Thanks for helping me
PS if it makes any difference, I would like to eventually Root and play with ROM's
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Basically the screen and that's it. And that's enough too to make the switch. I did because I can't stand anything under 200 dpi.
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Screen
WiFi
GPS
Speed
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Speed? I thought they were the same machine, just different back.
Sorry I havent done my own research yet, this all caught me by surprise.
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Speed? I thought they were the same machine, just different back.
Sorry I havent done my own research yet, this all caught me by surprise.
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T33 vs T30
The default clock speed is 1.6Ghz on the Infinity in Performance mode. I will agree that GPS is better, and obviously better screen resolution. However I notice quite a bit of stutter/lag while navigating through menus and switching apps. Hoping Jelly Bean or another OTA update will help.
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The default clock speed is 1.6Ghz on the Infinity in Performance mode. I will agree that GPS is better, and obviously better screen resolution. However I notice quite a bit of stutter/lag while navigating through menus and switching apps. Hoping Jelly Bean or another OTA update will help.
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There is currently a rom (Zeus v3.0) that greatly improves the TF700's performance. You don't have to suffer.
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totally agree with you. glad I went from my TF201 to my TF700T. Not looking back.
+1 for the comment about Screen,GPS, WiFi and Speed. I did mine and have been very happy. As for the stutter and lag, I don't do a lot of gaming on mine, but I have not seen any of those problems.
As for the need to use a custom ROM, with my TF201 I finally put AndroWook on it and said "Oh, this is how this is supposed to perform," I have been running the Stock ROM, rooted with the basic Performance Tweaks (frozen apps in TiBu and some build.prop edits) and do not always feel like I am still handicapped.
Fantastic feedback, thank you everyone
Keion said:
Basically the screen and that's it. And that's enough too to make the switch. I did because I can't stand anything under 200 dpi.
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Uhh. The WiFi and GPS also work. Some people might find one or both of those useful. LOL.
I was one of the few who were actually happy with my Prime. The wifi worked fine and the GPS didn't bother me since I never used it. The only reason I sold it and got the Infinity was because I could not re-unlock my Prime after RMAing for a broken HDMI port. For me, the only thing better on the Infinity is the screen, and although it is a really nice feature it is not worth it for that alone in my opinion. Overall, my experience with the Infinity has been the same as with the Prime (minus the development, which I hope will pick up soon).
If you are happy with your Prime I would stick with it. If you fancy a change or feel like spending some $$ then the Infinity is a good choice. Like the Prime it is a solid tablet that offers a really nice user experience.
Edit: I forgot to mention the 'speed' issue. In every day use the Infinity and Prime are equally as speedy as one another in my opinion. I would say that the Infinity's superior processing power is sucked up by keeping all of those extra pixels going...
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If you are happy with your Prime I would stick with it. If you fancy a change or feel like spending some $$ then the Infinity is a good choice. Like the Prime it is a solid tablet that offers a really nice user experience.
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Actually, my last post was just a little sarcastic, I had a similar experience with the Prime (liked it, did not call for ASUS' head, etc). The Prime is a pretty awesome tablet and the Infinity is really just an evolutionary upgrade, when you can secure working unit with decent WiFi the Prime is still pretty cutting edge. And some of the custom ROMs make the 201 very sweet, indeed.
But that said, my GPS was DOA and the WiFi was merely "acceptable" (but not near the Infinity which I would class as being actually good).
Since like me, the OP is basically looking @ a $0 upgrade via a return, in my experience, the "upgrade" was well worth the five minutes of effort and had no real downside ESPECIALLY if you like the Prime, IMHO!
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Actually, my last post was just a little sarcastic, I had a similar experience with the Prime (liked it, did not call for ASUS' head, etc). The Prime is a pretty awesome tablet and the Infinity is really just an evolutionary upgrade, when you can secure working unit with decent WiFi the Prime is still pretty cutting edge. And some of the custom ROMs make the 201 very sweet, indeed.
But that said, my GPS was DOA and the WiFi was merely "acceptable" (but not near the Infinity which I would class as being actually good).
Since like me, the OP is basically looking @ a $0 upgrade via a return, in my experience, the "upgrade" was well worth the five minutes of effort and had no real downside ESPECIALLY if you like the Prime, IMHO!
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Got it lol. I would do the same if it cost me nothing . My infinity cost me about $150 after selling my prime on CL. Bought my infinity at Bestbuy - lesson learnt
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Made the switch today, came home and rooted+unlocked. Now im seeing all these issues and hoping my tablet is good! LOL
One change i noticed was the MicroSD card no longer protrudes from the device!!! Everyone who picked up my device immediately would push on my memory chip thinking it was a power button.
On the TF700 it is perfectly flush with the device, sweet!!
Bad news for me, i rooted specifically to run GameCIH to manipulate games. Now im rooted and see GameCIH is not even supported by this tablet. Fan-fvckin-tastic! LOL
otherwise very happy so far.
I wouldn't have been able to live with myself if I kept the tf201. It was a dud from day 1 and Asus knew it.
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I wouldn't have been able to live with myself if I kept the tf201. It was a dud from day 1 and Asus knew it.
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My Prime was actually great! Ran like a champ. Only reason for the switch was the FHD. A lot more people then you think had a satisfying experience with the Prime.
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I just spoke with Amazon this morning and they've agreed (without any hassle) to refund the money I paid for my TFP. I bought it in December 2011 and received it in late January. I worked pretty well but lately I was having a lot of issues with dropped wi-fi connections.
Anyway, I've decided to pick up the TF700T and use my Prime keyboard with it. My question is: Can you use the GPS dongle that Asus sent the Prime users on the TF700T. If so, is there any difference in the GPS sensitivity?
Thanks,
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Can you use the GPS dongle that Asus sent the Prime users on the TF700T. If so, is there any difference in the GPS sensitivity?
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I dunno maybe... But the infinity's GPS is pretty good all by itself, picked up satellites pretty fast even indoors (first floor of a second story house with metal roof and 4 feet from the window.
I'm thinking about picking up one of these tablets.. any idea if they've been rooted? Any custom roms?
Thanks
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834310536
Well I have one (in my signature), and there is no official root I know of. However, this device is very similar to Asus transformer infinity and also runs pics, which as an almost universal root tool somewhere (don't remember where to find it). I am hoping someone would be willing to test this on the a2109, as theres many things I wish for root with. As for roms, cwm will need to be made for this and, again, infinity pad may help. But in all honesty, this is so fast that I would be too concerned for roms. Theming would be nice though
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shirtlessrabbit4 said:
Well I have one (in my signature), and there is no official root I know of. However, this device is very similar to Asus transformer infinity and also runs pics, which as an almost universal root tool somewhere (don't remember where to find it). I am hoping someone would be willing to test this on the a2109, as theres many things I wish for root with. As for roms, cwm will need to be made for this and, again, infinity pad may help. But in all honesty, this is so fast that I would be too concerned for roms. Theming would be nice though
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Would love to post a link. Check the lenovo forums.
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joshag said:
I'm thinking about picking up one of these tablets.. any idea if they've been rooted? Any custom roms?
Thanks
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A buy-it-now is on the auction site for $260, including shipping. Very slightly (obviously) used. I'm quite happy with mine.
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Would love to post a link. Check the lenovo forums.
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A buy-it-now is on the auction site for $260, including shipping. Very slightly (obviously) used. I'm quite happy with mine.
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Just bought one at Best Buy for 259.00 this thing is smooth and fast I'm impressed. The screen is its only down fall. Head on viewing is not that bad. Definitely worth the 259.00
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Just bought one at Best Buy for 259.00 this thing is smooth and fast I'm impressed. The screen is its only down fall. Head on viewing is not that bad. Definitely worth the 259.00
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I totally agree the speed and smooth, I actually went in to get the ASUS TF300F, but when I held it was just too heavy. There are a few cons such as the camera and the lack of pretty much any accessories. I'd read on another forum that a guy got the Galaxy 8.9 case M-EDGE case for it, so I got the 14.99 one and it fits, though it is pretty tight, and doesn't close completely. It's close enough that I don't worry about anything scratching the screen. Also the way it folds does allow you to use the camera with ease and none of the buttons are covered. I've spent 4 hours searching for a case made specifically for the tablet and not even the MFG has one yet. They do have a picture of a smart cover, but it's nowhere on the site or anywhere else.
I think the people that make non OEM products have bought into the reviews slamming the tablet so much that they didn't decide to make anything for it, which is pretty sad. It's an awesome tablet for people on a budget and doesn't like the garden wall of the KF, lack of additional memory of both the KF and Nexus, and IMHO the specs are awesome. The salesperson did a bench mark test in store and was totally shocked at the rankings it ranked well above all the big name tablets, so at 259 I was definitely sold.
Speaking of the screen, I've viewed it at every angle that I use and there was no problem. I've previously owned the Toshiba Thrive 10.1 and this baby blows it out the water with ease. I kept my KF because trade in went down to 35.00 from 75.00 within a week.
Maybe with people giving positive feedback, more retailers will carry products for it.
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Speaking of the screen, I've viewed it at every angle that I use and there was no problem. I've previously owned the Toshiba Thrive 10.1 and this baby blows it out the water with ease. I kept my KF because trade in went down to 35.00 from 75.00 within a week.
Maybe with people giving positive feedback, more retailers will carry products for it.
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I've been posting reviews to every site I can think of, except Amazon. They still haven't gotten their **** together regarding the A2109 specs. Probably a campaign of FUD to sell their own products. Newegg, though, has very few reviews so far...
For those of you not on the Lenovo forums yet, there is now a dev ROM for the A2109. Right now we're at the point of having root, cwm, and a ROM free of bloatware and deodexed -- ready for some theming. Not like I've done any of the work -- by "we" I mean thanks to mcl we now have it.
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Well, I took the Lenovo A2109 back to Best Buy today and swapped it for the ASUS TF300T 16GB for a 90.00 difference. They have the same specs under the hood based on a few quick searches on the web. Honestly I hated to do it, because I rather liked the A2109, but the screen kept doing these weird flashes. At first I thought it was something I was doing, but I googled it and it's a known issue. I decided that with the screen already being the only bad thing about the tab and then the flashing I'd just go with something else. Luckily BB had the 16GB ASUS in stock, since it wasn't there the last few times I checked.
There seems to be more support and accessories for the ASUS tab as well. I've not had the chance to test it yet because apparently you have to let it charge a couple of hours before you can use it. (Thought I'd have to make another trip to BB)
I'll update on my blog when I get some play time with it. Just before I took the A2109 back I ran AnTuTu and Vellamo tests on it for S&G and it ranked pretty high, so I want to see if the ASUS tab does the same thing.
I can't post any urls here as a new member, but there is a link to my blog on my profile. Just case anyone is interested.
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Well, I took the Lenovo A2109 back to Best Buy today and swapped it for the ASUS TF300T 16GB for a 90.00 difference. They have the same specs under the hood based on a few quick searches on the web. Honestly I hated to do it, because I rather liked the A2109, but the screen kept doing these weird flashes. At first I thought it was something I was doing, but I googled it and it's a known issue. I decided that with the screen already being the only bad thing about the tab and then the flashing I'd just go with something else. Luckily BB had the 16GB ASUS in stock, since it wasn't there the last few times I checked.
There seems to be more support and accessories for the ASUS tab as well. I've not had the chance to test it yet because apparently you have to let it charge a couple of hours before you can use it. (Thought I'd have to make another trip to BB)
I'll update on my blog when I get some play time with it. Just before I took the A2109 back I ran AnTuTu and Vellamo tests on it for S&G and it ranked pretty high, so I want to see if the ASUS tab does the same thing.
I can't post any urls here as a new member, but there is a link to my blog on my profile. Just case anyone is interested.
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$90 more? Ooooh... I'd ask for a refund and see how this turns out
Josh
Spec wise the Nook tab can't touch the ASUS or Lenovo. The only place it would be beat the Lenovo is the screen. Right now the ASUS is running stock JB and still out performing the Lenovo, which I bought for the specs in spite of the screen.
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Spec wise the Nook tab can't touch the ASUS or Lenovo. The only place it would be beat the Lenovo is the screen. Right now the ASUS is running stock JB and still out performing the Lenovo, which I bought for the specs in spite of the screen.
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Let me know how you like it.
Josh
Lenovo A2109 Rooted and CWM Recovery
joshag said:
I'm thinking about picking up one of these tablets.. any idea if they've been rooted? Any custom roms?
Thanks
Bought this tab probally about a month ago didn't see any rooting methods. I thought I would sit this one out for about a month and see what the devs have come up with. None of the work goes to me (I am just a noob) but I just thought I would share this link with you regarding this tablets develepment.
Because I am a noob I cannont post any links so you can view my profile to see the link
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joshag said:
I'm thinking about picking up one of these tablets.. any idea if they've been rooted? Any custom roms?
Thanks
Bought this tab probally about a month ago didn't see any rooting methods. I thought I would sit this one out for about a month and see what the devs have come up with. None of the work goes to me (I am just a noob) but I just thought I would share this link with you regarding this tablets develepment. Because I am a noob I can't post any links so you can view my profile to see the link
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There is considerable development on the ROM front on the Lenovo official forums. I can't link either because I'm a n00b too, but with just a simple google search using the model name bought it up.
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geekygirl74 said:
Well, I took the Lenovo A2109 back to Best Buy today and swapped it for the ASUS TF300T 16GB for a 90.00 difference. They have the same specs under the hood based on a few quick searches on the web. Honestly I hated to do it, because I rather liked the A2109, but the screen kept doing these weird flashes. At first I thought it was something I was doing, but I googled it and it's a known issue. I decided that with the screen already being the only bad thing about the tab and then the flashing I'd just go with something else. Luckily BB had the 16GB ASUS in stock, since it wasn't there the last few times I checked.
There seems to be more support and accessories for the ASUS tab as well. I've not had the chance to test it yet because apparently you have to let it charge a couple of hours before you can use it. (Thought I'd have to make another trip to BB)
I'll update on my blog when I get some play time with it. Just before I took the A2109 back I ran AnTuTu and Vellamo tests on it for S&G and it ranked pretty high, so I want to see if the ASUS tab does the same thing.
I can't post any urls here as a new member, but there is a link to my blog on my profile. Just case anyone is interested.
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Just picked one of these up tonight -- primarily for the family (non-techie wife & 2nd grade daughter). We've used it for a little over an hour and I'm already noticing random screen flashes. So far they're not anywhere near annoying enough to think about taking it back, but I'm keeping an eye on it. So far very, very pleased!
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Just picked one of these up tonight -- primarily for the family (non-techie wife & 2nd grade daughter). We've used it for a little over an hour and I'm already noticing random screen flashes. So far they're not anywhere near annoying enough to think about taking it back, but I'm keeping an eye on it. So far very, very pleased!
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Excellent! I have noticed the screen glitches myself, and they don't seem to become more frequent or serious over time, so I think what you see is what you will get. I suppose you notice them more when you are concentrating on it. Ordinarily a defect like this would drive me crazy, but for the price I'll overlook it!
Come on over to the Lenovo forums if you want to talk to a larger audience
Josh
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Excellent! I have noticed the screen glitches myself, and they don't seem to become more frequent or serious over time, so I think what you see is what you will get. I suppose you notice them more when you are concentrating on it. Ordinarily a defect like this would drive me crazy, but for the price I'll overlook it!
Come on over to the Lenovo forums if you want to talk to a larger audience
Josh
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That's good to know (that it doesn't seem to get worse). Is there a forum area focused on this device?
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That's good to know (that it doesn't seem to get worse). Is there a forum area focused on this device?
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The only forum so far is at Lenovo:
http://forums.lenovo.com/t5/IdeaPad-IdeaTab-Slate-Tablets/bd-p/Idea_Slate
There are multiple devices in this forum, not just the A2109. There's a reasonably active group of users over there tho.
Josh
I just wanted to come back let you know that the ASUS TF300 is indeed awesome. Even though the two tablets share most of the same specs, the ASUS tab seems to just fly and I have to admit the screen alone was well worth the additional money.
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I just wanted to come back let you know that the ASUS TF300 is indeed awesome. Even though the two tablets share most of the same specs, the ASUS tab seems to just fly and I have to admit the screen alone was well worth the additional money.
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Yeah? I'm jealous. Of course, at this point I'd be pre-ordering the Nexus 10 if I were willing to pay more than the $250 I shelled out for this guy. The one thing I would miss, tho, is the convenient size. I really like how easy it is to handle. The 10" on the Gtab were a little much for me. Rationalizations... But now I have an upgrade to look forward to -- after mcl & I get an overclocking kernel running
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Yeah? I'm jealous. Of course, at this point I'd be pre-ordering the Nexus 10 if I were willing to pay more than the $250 I shelled out for this guy. The one thing I would miss, tho, is the convenient size. I really like how easy it is to handle. The 10" on the Gtab were a little much for me. Rationalizations... But now I have an upgrade to look forward to -- after mcl & I get an overclocking kernel running
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I've been thinking about the Nexus 7 inch since the 16 GB model dropped to 199 to replace my KF. I still think 7 inches is the sweet spot for a portable tablet, and I'd also love to have the "true" Android experience with out MFG tweaks, but that will be after the New Year and who knows what will be available then. They seem to be introducing the next big thing every week now.:laugh:
I'm looking to get an ASUS tablet but with all the different models I'm looking for input from you guys that are rooted and running custom roms.
I'm a cellphone guy and this will be my first tablet. I'm not looking to get some pile that I'm going to be pissed off about because I can't do this or that.
I don't really have a "need" since I'm just looking for something to hack on...(root, roms, customization, web browsing..running benchmarks because I like looking at the speed, OC'ing... ya know the normal nerd shiz.
The "tinkering" is what I like, probably the same as alot of you guys, just trying new things on it and that stuff...just like my S3.
I'm looking at the tf700t right now for $300 used. I can't really find the difference with the "t" specification on the end..?
Which model should i be interested in if this isn't the "one?"
Am I going to be happy with this, being able to root and flash roms?
Is this the one with the plastic piece/bezel on the top so the GPS actually works decent?
Are these speedy or are they piles of crap?
Is $300 a decent price?
Would you go with Google Nexus 10 instead?
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Hard to tell for me since I never handled these guys.
Well Thanks for your help, if you think I'm missing the boat here and should go with a different tablet, let me know. I like the ASUS look, but not set in stone on it. I see some people saying they regret buying their ASUS tab and wish they went with the Nexus10. I like the Nexus10 too.
The first one is not the same as the second, the first one was the model before called the transformer prime, that one was removed from stores within about 6 months. I advise you to stay away from that one. The one on the bottom is the transformer infinity the one that is the better one. I have mine rooted and unlocked with cleanrom 2.4 and clemsyns 1.9 kernal. Boy can I say that its a sweet device now, stock it was okay but now its amazing. I would totally get it with the price of 350$.
This tablet has some advantages over the nexus 10 too.
Transformer Infinity's (TF700T) Advantages:
It has a micro SD card slot.
It has a dock that you can always connect to for extra battery life along with more ports.
Development is stronger AT THE MOMENT for this tablet.
For 350$ you can get 32 gigs of storage.
Nexus 10s advantages:
Better processor inside.
Better screen resolution.
Better support from manufacturer.
Disadvantages:
No micro SD card slot.
No docking station that adds battery life.
400$ only gets you 16 gbs of memory.
Not a lot known about this tablet yet to judge how great it really is or can be.
Hope this helps you out a little.
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I'm looking to get an ASUS tablet but with all the different models I'm looking for input from you guys that are rooted and running custom roms.
I'm a cellphone guy and this will be my first tablet. I'm not looking to get some pile that I'm going to be pissed off about because I can't do this or that.
I don't really have a "need" since I'm just looking for something to hack on...(root, roms, customization, web browsing..running benchmarks because I like looking at the speed, OC'ing... ya know the normal nerd shiz.
The "tinkering" is what I like, probably the same as alot of you guys, just trying new things on it and that stuff...just like my S3.
I'm looking at the tf700t right now for $300 used. I can't really find the difference with the "t" specification on the end..?
Which model should i be interested in if this isn't the "one?"
Am I going to be happy with this, being able to root and flash roms?
Is this the one with the plastic piece/bezel on the top so the GPS actually works decent?
Are these speedy or are they piles of crap?
Is $300 a decent price?
Would you go with Google Nexus 10 instead?
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Is this the tf700t? http://appleton.craigslist.org/ele/3320859999.html
is that one above the same as this one?
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Hard to tell for me since I never handled these guys.
Well Thanks for your help, if you think I'm missing the boat here and should go with a different tablet, let me know. I like the ASUS look, but not set in stone on it. I see some people saying they regret buying their ASUS tab and wish they went with the Nexus10. I like the Nexus10 too.
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That is not the infinity. That is the prime (tf201). And yes you will be happy if you get the infinity
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The first one is not the same as the second, the first one was the model before called the transformer prime, that one was removed from stores within about 6 months. I advise you to stay away from that one. The one on the bottom is the transformer infinity the one that is the better one. I have mine rooted and unlocked with cleanrom 2.4 and clemsyns 1.9 kernal. Boy can I say that its a sweet device now, stock it was okay but now its amazing. I would totally get it with the price of 350$.
This tablet has some advantages over the nexus 10 too.
Transformer Infinity's (TF700T) Advantages:
It has a micro SD card slot.
It has a dock that you can always connect to for extra battery life along with more ports.
Development is stronger AT THE MOMENT for this tablet.
For 350$ you can get 32 gigs of storage.
Nexus 10s advantages:
Better processor inside.
Better screen resolution.
Better support from manufacturer.
Disadvantages:
No micro SD card slot.
No docking station that adds battery life.
400$ only gets you 16 gbs of memory.
Not a lot known about this tablet yet to judge how great it really is or can be.
Hope this helps you out a little.
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How does the n10 have better support? Asus is considered to be the best. Even if the n10 is a nexus, it's made by Samsung, considered to be the worst...
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Because its a google product so logically google is going to release all of its updates and support quicker then any other device period. Dont get me wrong Asus has some awesome support.
Thanks guys.
I agree with the advantages over the Nexus tablet. I like the expandable storage. Plus 32gb for the price is great.
The resolution is better on the N10 but, really, I'm not a huge freak about that.
I'm sure the resolution is great and it has IPS mode right? I've heard good things about that.
I thought I'd be missing NFC, but in reality, it's a novelty to me, wow cool, ok move on. I've used it like 4 times on my S3, only because i bought a bunch of the tiles. They are in a drawer somewhere. Useless.
The dock looks pretty decent, kinda pricey but, i'll find a used one.
The infinity has USB OTG right? I'm assuming it does.
The processor difference between the N10 isn't that great and I don't really do anything that requires that much power..besides wow'ing myself with benchmarks, so i think it will be fine.
I'm not too worried about the updates since I won't be stock ever. I'm sure we'll be at 4.2 within no time if isn't already.
Thanks for the tips, I'm going to try to score the infinity off craigslist right now. I'll let you know what I think.
One last question..
The "gold" grey" models is referring to the actual color right or am I retarded? or both?
http://reviews.cnet.com/1770-5_7-0.html?query=TF700T+&tag=srch&searchtype=products
apristel said:
Thanks guys.
I agree with the advantages over the Nexus tablet. I like the expandable storage. Plus 32gb for the price is great.
The resolution is better on the N10 but, really, I'm not a huge freak about that.
I'm sure the resolution is great and it has IPS mode right? I've heard good things about that.
I thought I'd be missing NFC, but in reality, it's a novelty to me, wow cool, ok move on. I've used it like 4 times on my S3, only because i bought a bunch of the tiles. They are in a drawer somewhere. Useless.
The dock looks pretty decent, kinda pricey but, i'll find a used one.
The infinity has USB OTG right? I'm assuming it does.
The processor difference between the N10 isn't that great and I don't really do anything that requires that much power..besides wow'ing myself with benchmarks, so i think it will be fine.
I'm not too worried about the updates since I won't be stock ever. I'm sure we'll be at 4.2 within no time if isn't already.
Thanks for the tips, I'm going to try to score the infinity off craigslist right now. I'll let you know what I think.
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The resolution on the infinity still wows me though, its a nice looking tablet regardless. Sadly the infinity doesnt have USB on it however there is an adapter that plugs into your charger port to give you that support.
I have to agree that the dock is sweet but pricey, I personally dont own one yet and am patiently waiting for a Ubutu port before I make any further purchases.
Yeah the benchmarks on this thing are crazy if you do some tweaking, I will attach a pic with my benchmark on this post. It is pretty good.
Just make sure that it is indeed the infinity as the post says the transformer prime which is different then the transformer infinity. If the guy has the box the box should say infinity. Good luck man!
EDIT:Yes that is referring to is color not a stupid question either lol.
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The resolution on the infinity still wows me though, its a nice looking tablet regardless. Sadly the infinity doesnt have USB on it however there is an adapter that plugs into your charger port to give you that support.
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The dock has a USB port and a full-sized SD card slot.
mj23kb24 said:
Because its a google product so logically google is going to release all of its updates and support quicker then any other device period. Dont get me wrong Asus has some awesome support.
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Except it's still Samsung.... updates still have to go through the original OEM... So if the oem sucks, so will update. Look at the galaxy nexus as an example...
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pierrekid said:
Except it's still Samsung.... updates still have to go through the original OEM... So if the oem sucks, so will update. Look at the galaxy nexus as an example...
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I guess that's true I just don't see them releasing updates for other tablets before their own.
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I guess that's true I just don't see them releasing updates for other tablets before their own.
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No, it’s a Nexus device the software will be updated by Google. The OEM means nothing.
Where did you see a TF700 for $350
mccahon said:
Where did you see a TF700 for $350
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I already got it for $350.
apristel said:
I already got it for $350.
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BS a $500 tablet for $350 where
He got it off of craigslist.
How are you liking the tablet thus far?
mccahon said:
BS a $500 tablet for $350 where
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$350 used isn't that unreal since you can get it new online for $429 shipped... so BS nothing.
mj23kb24 said:
He got it off of craigslist.
How are you liking the tablet thus far?
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So far so good. I really haven't played with it, been busy with some other stuff but i'm glad i got it over the n7 or n10 even.
Once I root/rom i'll let you know, stock isn't what i like on anything.
Thanks for asking though!!
Congrats on the Infinity purchase!! You'll love it! Better choice than the N10 in my opinion. I had the Prime, then bought the Infinity when it was released and my girlfriend got the Prime. The only thing about the N10 that excites me is that GameLoft and EA said they are going to support it with their games. So that means the Infinity will get support too with its high res display!! Bonus!!!
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Thats good that your liking it man, once you root it and get that custom rom on it you will be amazed believe me. I only have one complaint about the tablet and its the my left side of my screen creeks but other then that I dont have any of the other problems people are complaining about.
Yes!! Finally gameloft will support this beast of a device!
apristel said:
$350 used isn't that unreal since you can get it new online for $429 shipped... so BS nothing.
So far so good. I really haven't played with it, been busy with some other stuff but i'm glad i got it over the n7 or n10 even.
Once I root/rom i'll let you know, stock isn't what i like on anything.
Thanks for asking though!!
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I got my infinity from best buy for 347.99 I believe on a price match
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As an Infinity owner I would have gone to Nexus 10. It is so much better device than this.
Just saw a video where some guy had opened 6 3D games and was multitasking and playing fluently those games. You just can't do that with this tablet. This will die under 2 games already.
How come there not a lot of ROM development for this tablet even the 3g version doesn't get that much.
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My guess is that it's a hefty price for a tablet that got a lot of bad reviews. Even though it is IMO the best tablet on the market. I think after the holiday season (when prices drop and official jelly bean is out) things will pick up a little bit more.
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My guess is that it's a hefty price for a tablet that got a lot of bad reviews. Even though it is IMO the best tablet on the market. I think after the holiday season (when prices drop and official jelly bean is out) things will pick up a little bit more.
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Bad reviews because they cant get the point of the tablet...
Compare this with an iPad is just stupid
Yea I hope the development picks up when jelly bean comes out. I had the iPad and its good in its own ways but hate the boring ui, I just picked up the Note 10.1 and I got to say I love it,the screen is not as good but everything is great. I saw a couple of people flash the 3g roms on the WiFi version is that safe to do.
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I purchased this tab on Saturday, rooted and put chrack's Rom on that a few WiFi only owners were running before he made a WiFi version, it might be best to check the thread of a Rom and see if a WiFi user took the plunge and applied it.
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I also assumed there would be a lot of development on this tab as it seems very powerful, but I guess people don't switch tabs as often as phones. I'm thinking of returning this tab to bestbuy & then purchase at Costco which has a 3 month return policy, if nothing picks up by then I can switch to the latest tab.
I think the reason that development is slow for this tablet is probably because of the reasons of the critics' reviews, the price, and the Nexus 10's arrival. Probably the combination of the first two was already bad, but the Nexus 10's price and screen has taken a big share of what should be this tablet's limelight..
Unfortunately, I guess most people don't care enough about the stylus to get this tablet over others, but I am glad I made the jump despite hesitating because of the reviews .
Both will feature tegra 4, 2560x1600,microsd,front & rear facing camera I assume new Asus will be unlockable but nothing is definite-
Do you think Toshiba will have better i/o?
I wouldn't mind a change but I will wait to see how it plays out ?
IF Asus fix the I/O then I think with ASUS pedigree in the Tab market and hopefully strong Dev Community which is already here you'd feel and hope it would be the better purchase. But it mostly rides on the I/O will have to wait nearer the time I suppose.
Is there an a release date with it yet?
Haven't seen a release date, as it may have to depend on how fast they are cranking out Tegra 4 chips. I would go with ASUS based off their past performance in updating devices faster than other manufacturers. But like most, the I/O performance is going to influence the upgrade from those on these forums, or Toshiba or HP may be getting some customers. I would imagine an mid-July early August release for these devices.
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legendary1022 said:
Haven't seen a release date, as it may have to depend on how fast they are cranking out Tegra 4 chips. I would go with ASUS based off their past performance in updating devices faster than other manufacturers. But like most, the I/O performance is going to influence the upgrade from those on these forums, or Toshiba or HP may be getting some customers. I would imagine an mid-July early August release for these devices.
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You can order june 25 from toshiba direct
The Toshiba 32gb apparently will be $100 less than the Asus. The catch is no keyboard dock option, or steady updates. They also like to use proprietary connectors, so no advantage there. If Toshiba updated more, I would lean more to saving $100. I rarely use my TF300 dock.
I think the Tegra 4 chip is going to be a watershed point and be a near death blow for some laptop segments. The iPad 4 is already causing it and this should be a near final straw.
Edit: Both 32gb models are same price, so getting the Toshiba IMO would make no sense due to lack of updates.
rushless said:
The Toshiba 32gb apparently will be $100 less than the Asus. The catch is no keyboard dock option, or steady updates. They also like to use proprietary connectors, so no advantage there. If Toshiba updated more, I would lean more to saving $100. I rarely use my TF300 dock.
I think the Tegra 4 chip is going to be a watershed point and be a near death blow for some laptop segments. The iPad 4 is already causing it and this should be a near final straw.
Edit: Both 32gb models are same price, so getting the Toshiba IMO would make no sense due to lack of updates.
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Well not only that the Toshiba has locked boot loaders. Good luck rooting it as it does not seem like even the existing models have support for that.
Deathman20 said:
Well not only that the Toshiba has locked boot loaders. Good luck rooting it as it does not seem like even the existing models have support for that.
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I have the Toshiba Excite 7.7 and appreciate the locked thing Device works great though
KinetiClutch said:
IF Asus fix the I/O then I think with ASUS pedigree in the Tab market and hopefully strong Dev Community which is already here you'd feel and hope it would be the better purchase. But it mostly rides on the I/O will have to wait nearer the time I suppose.
Is there an a release date with it yet?
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Well, I hope Asus has learnt from their mistake in ruining all of the good components in Infinity with I/O issues. This, however, makes me wonder what were they thinking when they released Infinity with such a laughable I/O performance. Mind you I eventually sold my Infinity. It was very frustrating to install ROMs one after another just to gain a bit of performance. Despite of loving Android as a mature OS, I am going back to iPad to focus on using the tablet rather than fixing mistakes of greedy careless hardware manufacturers. Are you listening Asus?!
new_convert said:
Well, I hope Asus has learnt from their mistake in ruining all of the good components in Infinity with I/O issues. This, however, makes me wonder what were they thinking when they released Infinity with such a laughable I/O performance. Mind you I eventually sold my Infinity. It was very frustrating to install ROMs one after another just to gain a bit of performance. Despite of loving Android as a mature OS, I am going back to iPad to focus on using the tablet rather than fixing mistakes of greedy careless hardware manufacturers. Are you listening Asus?!
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Of course they are not listening. You are not talking to them.
sbdags said:
Of course they are not listening. You are not talking to them.
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Actually I am talking to them by not buying their products again.
new_convert said:
It was very frustrating to install ROMs one after another just to gain a bit of performance. Despite of loving Android as a mature OS, I am going back to iPad to focus on using the tablet rather than fixing mistakes of greedy careless hardware manufacturers.
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So what the hell are you doing on an Android developement forum dedicated to exactly that?
new_convert said:
Actually I am talking to them by not buying their products again.
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Because one person not buying their stuff is really making a notable difference...
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ShadowLea said:
So what the hell are you doing on an Android developement forum dedicated to exactly that?
Because one person not buying their stuff is really making a notable difference...
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Lol! I am glad you are enjoying it. I get it. Sometimes it is hard to admit a wrong purchase.
Now cool down and read this: If it was not for the great work some of the developers do here I wouldn't keep it for a day. TO name a few, CROMI and CM10.1 really made it tolerable and even great in some aspects. But I cannot blame you for simply being a fan. There are fanboys in all of the camps. Android and apple.
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Lol! I am glad you are enjoying it. I get it. Sometimes it is hard to admit a wrong purchase.
Now cool down and read this: If it was not for the great work some of the developers do here I wouldn't keep it for a day. TO name a few, CROMI and CM10.1 really made it tolerable and even great in some aspects. But I cannot blame you for simply being a fan. There are fanboys in all of the camps. Android and apple.
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Not a fanboy, I lack a few dangling bits between my legs for that.
I do not regret my purchase at all. I have not noticed much in terms of lag, certainly not as much as people claim there to be. Compared to my GT 2 10.1, which I most certainly do regret buying, it is razorsharp and very smooth.
Maybe others are too proud to admit a mistake, but that is a male ego trait. I have neither pride nor ego, let alone the need to defend it.
All I meant was that it is a little lame to go on an Android forum to say Apple is better.
I bought the Excite Pro, good piece of equipment, some cons ofc but i'm really enjoying it, to bad about support though.
Toshiba is pretty bad for update efforts. My Toshiba Excite 7.7 is an example. Toshiba are also awful with making efficient firmware that does not bleed the battery while in sleep mode. Even with wifi off it bleeds more than most tablets. Wonder if same for the new T4 tablet.
Got the Toshiba Excite Write!
And it looks to be a damn fine tablet. Antutu scored 28k+ and the graphics power is phenomenal. Has built in video and audio enhancements, seems pretty stable on this kernal build, although I expect an update soon because of a couple of weird quirks. The stylus works great (love the eraser by turning over the pen!), but not as developed as the Note 10.1, however, the screen rez is fantastic at 320 DPI and looks as good as the Nexus 10. The rear camera is REALLY great...best I've seen so far on a tablet, and the speakers are clear as a bell with excellent surround sound controlled in hardware, so anything you play gets enhanced. It does get a little warm on the left side under the camera when running an intensive app.
If you have any questions or requests, fire away!
Good day
From where you get toshiba pro or write i want to buy a new one
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salman saso said:
Good day
From where you get toshiba pro or write i want to buy a new one
Thank you
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I pre ordered from Toshiba and they shipped it the next day even though it said they weren't shipping till the 18th. I guess they wanted to live up to the Excite part...lol
What is the expected release date for the asus tablet?
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titou00075 said:
What is the expected release date for the asus tablet?
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Our guess is as good as yours. They have been really quiet since the reveal. I would guess mid August for back to school season
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