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TF201 vs TF700, benefits of the switch?

I just caught wind of the generosity from Bestbuy in allowing users to return the TF201's under manufacturer defect. So I am contemplating my move.
is the TF700 the way to go? Or is there a better option at the same price point? I definitely dont want iOS so ill be sticking with Android, just not sure which device to push for in exchange, assuming they allow me to switch.
I see some people talking about the Note 10.1, how does that compare to these TF's?
Thanks for helping me
PS if it makes any difference, I would like to eventually Root and play with ROM's

Definitely worth the switch. I had to go to two Best Buys to make it happen (kinda my own fault), but I'm definitely happy that I did. Runs better, feels better. Go for it.

rsarno said:
I just caught wind of the generosity from Bestbuy in allowing users to return the TF201's under manufacturer defect. So I am contemplating my move.
is the TF700 the way to go? Or is there a better option at the same price point? I definitely dont want iOS so ill be sticking with Android, just not sure which device to push for in exchange, assuming they allow me to switch.
I see some people talking about the Note 10.1, how does that compare to these TF's?
Thanks for helping me
PS if it makes any difference, I would like to eventually Root and play with ROM's
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Basically the screen and that's it. And that's enough too to make the switch. I did because I can't stand anything under 200 dpi.
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Screen
WiFi
GPS
Speed

David522d said:
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GPS
Speed
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Speed? I thought they were the same machine, just different back.
Sorry I havent done my own research yet, this all caught me by surprise.

rsarno said:
Speed? I thought they were the same machine, just different back.
Sorry I havent done my own research yet, this all caught me by surprise.
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T33 vs T30

The default clock speed is 1.6Ghz on the Infinity in Performance mode. I will agree that GPS is better, and obviously better screen resolution. However I notice quite a bit of stutter/lag while navigating through menus and switching apps. Hoping Jelly Bean or another OTA update will help.
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ka1z0ku said:
The default clock speed is 1.6Ghz on the Infinity in Performance mode. I will agree that GPS is better, and obviously better screen resolution. However I notice quite a bit of stutter/lag while navigating through menus and switching apps. Hoping Jelly Bean or another OTA update will help.
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There is currently a rom (Zeus v3.0) that greatly improves the TF700's performance. You don't have to suffer.

David522d said:
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totally agree with you. glad I went from my TF201 to my TF700T. Not looking back.

+1 for the comment about Screen,GPS, WiFi and Speed. I did mine and have been very happy. As for the stutter and lag, I don't do a lot of gaming on mine, but I have not seen any of those problems.
As for the need to use a custom ROM, with my TF201 I finally put AndroWook on it and said "Oh, this is how this is supposed to perform," I have been running the Stock ROM, rooted with the basic Performance Tweaks (frozen apps in TiBu and some build.prop edits) and do not always feel like I am still handicapped.

Fantastic feedback, thank you everyone

Keion said:
Basically the screen and that's it. And that's enough too to make the switch. I did because I can't stand anything under 200 dpi.
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Uhh. The WiFi and GPS also work. Some people might find one or both of those useful. LOL.

I was one of the few who were actually happy with my Prime. The wifi worked fine and the GPS didn't bother me since I never used it. The only reason I sold it and got the Infinity was because I could not re-unlock my Prime after RMAing for a broken HDMI port. For me, the only thing better on the Infinity is the screen, and although it is a really nice feature it is not worth it for that alone in my opinion. Overall, my experience with the Infinity has been the same as with the Prime (minus the development, which I hope will pick up soon).
If you are happy with your Prime I would stick with it. If you fancy a change or feel like spending some $$ then the Infinity is a good choice. Like the Prime it is a solid tablet that offers a really nice user experience.
Edit: I forgot to mention the 'speed' issue. In every day use the Infinity and Prime are equally as speedy as one another in my opinion. I would say that the Infinity's superior processing power is sucked up by keeping all of those extra pixels going...

paddycr said:
If you are happy with your Prime I would stick with it. If you fancy a change or feel like spending some $$ then the Infinity is a good choice. Like the Prime it is a solid tablet that offers a really nice user experience.
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Actually, my last post was just a little sarcastic, I had a similar experience with the Prime (liked it, did not call for ASUS' head, etc). The Prime is a pretty awesome tablet and the Infinity is really just an evolutionary upgrade, when you can secure working unit with decent WiFi the Prime is still pretty cutting edge. And some of the custom ROMs make the 201 very sweet, indeed.
But that said, my GPS was DOA and the WiFi was merely "acceptable" (but not near the Infinity which I would class as being actually good).
Since like me, the OP is basically looking @ a $0 upgrade via a return, in my experience, the "upgrade" was well worth the five minutes of effort and had no real downside ESPECIALLY if you like the Prime, IMHO!

zenaxe said:
Actually, my last post was just a little sarcastic, I had a similar experience with the Prime (liked it, did not call for ASUS' head, etc). The Prime is a pretty awesome tablet and the Infinity is really just an evolutionary upgrade, when you can secure working unit with decent WiFi the Prime is still pretty cutting edge. And some of the custom ROMs make the 201 very sweet, indeed.
But that said, my GPS was DOA and the WiFi was merely "acceptable" (but not near the Infinity which I would class as being actually good).
Since like me, the OP is basically looking @ a $0 upgrade via a return, in my experience, the "upgrade" was well worth the five minutes of effort and had no real downside ESPECIALLY if you like the Prime, IMHO!
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Got it lol. I would do the same if it cost me nothing . My infinity cost me about $150 after selling my prime on CL. Bought my infinity at Bestbuy - lesson learnt
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Made the switch today, came home and rooted+unlocked. Now im seeing all these issues and hoping my tablet is good! LOL
One change i noticed was the MicroSD card no longer protrudes from the device!!! Everyone who picked up my device immediately would push on my memory chip thinking it was a power button.
On the TF700 it is perfectly flush with the device, sweet!!
Bad news for me, i rooted specifically to run GameCIH to manipulate games. Now im rooted and see GameCIH is not even supported by this tablet. Fan-fvckin-tastic! LOL
otherwise very happy so far.

I wouldn't have been able to live with myself if I kept the tf201. It was a dud from day 1 and Asus knew it.

-lukin- said:
I wouldn't have been able to live with myself if I kept the tf201. It was a dud from day 1 and Asus knew it.
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My Prime was actually great! Ran like a champ. Only reason for the switch was the FHD. A lot more people then you think had a satisfying experience with the Prime.
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Amazon Refunded My Prime
I just spoke with Amazon this morning and they've agreed (without any hassle) to refund the money I paid for my TFP. I bought it in December 2011 and received it in late January. I worked pretty well but lately I was having a lot of issues with dropped wi-fi connections.
Anyway, I've decided to pick up the TF700T and use my Prime keyboard with it. My question is: Can you use the GPS dongle that Asus sent the Prime users on the TF700T. If so, is there any difference in the GPS sensitivity?
Thanks,

BTrack said:
Can you use the GPS dongle that Asus sent the Prime users on the TF700T. If so, is there any difference in the GPS sensitivity?
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I dunno maybe... But the infinity's GPS is pretty good all by itself, picked up satellites pretty fast even indoors (first floor of a second story house with metal roof and 4 feet from the window.

Will devs start to come?

I'm like Rdy to buy this n figured with the crazy specs this would have crazy rims n porting n all that but there's barely any devs is it just taking a while or this is how it's goin to be.
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mightymike889 said:
I'm like Rdy to buy this n figured with the crazy specs this would have crazy rims n porting n all that but there's barely any devs is it just taking a while or this is how it's goin to be.
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There's a couple of good stock-based roms available right now. The one I'm on works very well and has really improved my experience with the TF700. I believe that there will be more development once JellyBean drops and especially with source code. There are a number of drivers that can't just be ported over from the TF201 or TF300, mostly relating to the high resolution screen. So patience is needed for right now (so I keep telling myself, crackflasher that I am).

okantomi said:
There's a couple of good stock-based roms available right now. The one I'm on works very well and has really improved my experience with the TF700. I believe that there will be more development once JellyBean drops and especially with source code. There are a number of drivers that can't just be ported over from the TF201 or TF300, mostly relating to the high resolution screen. So patience is needed for right now (so I keep telling myself, crackflasher that I am).
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so over all r u 100% happy with the tablet

Based on my experience, only popular devices get a lot of attention from developers, simply because most developers will only develop ROMs and hack for devices that they own. Given the Infinity's high price tag, I don't think a lot of people will buy it in the first place, including developers on xda. Personally, I believe that anyone hoping for a vibrant hacking community for the Infinity will be sorely disappointed.

huy_lonewolf said:
Based on my experience, only popular devices get a lot of attention from developers, simply because most developers will only develop ROMs and hack for devices that they own. Given the Infinity's high price tag, I don't think a lot of people will buy it in the first place, including developers on xda. Personally, I believe that anyone hoping for a vibrant hacking community for the Infinity will be sorely disappointed.
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High price tag? For what it offers its actually a very reasonable/competitive price. For 499 your getting 32gb with the latest Tegra 3 processor and FHD screen!
Honestly think that devs are waiting for Jelly Bean Project Butter to hit. why waste too much time with ICS when JB is just around the corner.
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jjdevega said:
High price tag? For what it offers its actually a very reasonable/competitive price. For 499 your getting 32gb with the latest Tegra 3 processor and FHD screen!
Honestly think that devs are waiting for Jelly Bean Project Butter to hit. why waste too much time with ICS when JB is just around the corner.
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I agree, for the price you actually get quite a bit. That same price will get you a galaxy note 10.1 if you can stand to look at the horrible screen on it.
I personally think a lot of devs may be waiting for a nexus 10 tablet to hit.
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Personally i think more devs are leaning towards nexus or samsung devices and here is why:
Nexus devices are stock android. Very easy to make custom roms.
Samsung gives the dev community sources, Odin, and other tools needed to make custom roms. Since most of the work is already done it is a lot easier to customize the software with less work. Sammy higher end devices also tend to be built better although with a more plastic feel. (I've dropped my S2 a thousand times, no broken screens. I've seen friends drop other phones just once with devistating results. Lighter materials = less intertia = more chance of life)
Also, i agree with the JB suggestion, why spend time and effort modifying something we have now when we know JB dropped for the 300 and is due to drop for the prime and 700 in the next few weeks?

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I agree, for the price you actually get quite a bit. That same price will get you a galaxy note 10.1 if you can stand to look at the horrible screen on it.
I personally think a lot of devs may be waiting for a nexus 10 tablet to hit.
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Nexus 10?
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jjdevega said:
High price tag? For what it offers its actually a very reasonable/competitive price. For 499 your getting 32gb with the latest Tegra 3 processor and FHD screen!
Honestly think that devs are waiting for Jelly Bean Project Butter to hit. why waste too much time with ICS when JB is just around the corner.
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I guess ASUS uses the iPad as a reference point for pricing in the US, thus the price tag of US$499, and you are correct in saying that the price is reasonable enough. However, for the rest of the world (mostly Asia), ASUS does not seem to follow that pricing strategy (I also think ASUS has to make some compromises on margin to arrive at US$499 in order to build a better brand name in the US). For instance, in Singapore, the Infinity is sold at SGD $1099, which is even more expensive than the New iPad, making the Infinity the most expensive tablet available. In fact, at that price in Singapore, I can buy a very decent laptop instead. Even the new Galaxy Note 10.1 with max configuration (3G version) is only SGD $998.
I am not sure how ASUS is doing in the US, but at least in Asia (minus Taiwan), ASUS is not doing a very good job in the tablet market. I have never seen a single ASUS tablet being used in the public before, while the iPad and Galaxy tabs dominate the Asia market. That is quite understandable because ASUS has always been selling its tablets at very high price. In Singapore, the Transformer Prime has always been more expensive than iPad 2, and so is the Infinity. That is also something I cannot really understand. While Apple and Samsung can sell its products in Singapore at relatively the same price in the US, ASUS can't seem to do the same thing. I am hoping they can do a better job with those upcoming Windows 8 tablets.

Just came back from my first visit to Singapore and visited the Funan mall and the Infinity was selling for $899 Singapore dollars at some store that had loads of Asus stuff.
I'm sitting on an a700 and am wondering about dev support too for the Infinity. I can't return my a700, but the lagginess on the Acer is killing me. Might make the move to the Infinity if it has great support.

It'll come with time. Early adoption of devices means bugginess and slow ROM support, but it all comes eventually. You'll be sitting there wondering wtf is going on then a week later you'll be irritated because you can't decide which ROM you want to download to try next. Happens every time.

I hope the devs come after JB release. I am afraid that most devs bought the transformer prime, and dont have enough incentive to upgrade to the infinity. If support doesnt come after JBs release, i'll have to take a stab at it. Have a software background, just never made a rom. With the bricking that is occurring, and no NVFlash, I'd be afraid to try on this device.
Got my N7 coming in the mail and have a GNex, perhaps I should practice on those.
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do u think they will abandon this tablet ?

i worked hard as hell all summer to get this tablet and now i feel like they are going to ditch it soon. just but jellybean on it to stop the crying and go onto their windows rt / 8 stuff. look at this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gHHApNJS3LQ&feature=youtu.be
i dont know how long this tablet will live for and im just curious if its something that will work for me a year from now

Crizthakidd said:
i worked hard as hell all summer to get this tablet and now i feel like they are going to ditch it soon. just but jellybean on it to stop the crying and go onto their windows rt / 8 stuff. look at this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gHHApNJS3LQ&feature=youtu.be
i dont know how long this tablet will live for and im just curious if its something that will work for me a year from now
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See the OG transformer for an idea of how long this tab is going to last.

Keion said:
See the OG transformer for an idea of how long this tab is going to last.
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Or the prime

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Or the prime
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The Prime was garbage. Pure and simple sh*t.
Infinity is everything i expected from the Prime but didn't get. I believe Infinity will be good for a while. Android has a HUGE following, and its all based on numbers.
There are a few build issues, and I'm gonna return mine, but getting another.

Relax, this tablet will be around for at least one per two years
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I sure hope it doesn't go anywhere, i'd hate to have to drop size and buy the nexus 7

jrc27 said:
I sure hope it doesn't go anywhere, i'd hate to have to drop size and buy the nexus 7
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I have got that one too.... really nice and fits all the niches that the infinity is too big for. Grab one, you won't be sorry.

Original transformer = still getting updates
Prime = crap but still getting updates, tho i dont know why people would still keep it when most cases they can upgrade to 700
300 = ok, lots of people have it, getting updates
Asus is very bad for QA, slow for customer service, but one thing they are damn good at is supporting products they make with updates well after they come out. And even after Asus stops giving updates for this tablet i think its got enough people behind it that the community will continue to contribute.

Probably doesn't matter a whole lot if asus moves on.
Seems to me there will be tons of customization as this model matures.
Just browse thru the millions of posts on the whole of XDA.
Folks are still tweaking 2 year old phones and tablets.
Heck the wife and me usually go about 2 years on tablets and 3 years on laptops.
Don't do like us...just use it till it melts down.
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Thats OK said:
Probably doesn't matter a whole lot if asus moves on.
Seems to me there will be tons of customization as this model matures.
Just browse thru the millions of posts on the whole of XDA.
Folks are still tweaking 2 year old phones and tablets.
Heck the wife and me usually go about 2 years on tablets and 3 years on laptops.
Don't do like us...just use it till it melts down.
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That's not really the point though. ASUS has effectively sold me a high end sports car that can only go 25mph on the highway. Looks and sounds impressive. Drives like A$$

BxMxK said:
That's not really the point though. ASUS has effectively sold me a high end sports car that can only go 25mph on the highway. Looks and sounds impressive. Drives like A$$
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All these device makers have essentially abandon their work as soon as it appears on sale for consumption.
The attitude is the next best thing...
You'll never win that game.

why would they abandon it so soon? If they announce another tablet, would you buy it? Given that you already know how quickly they abandon devices?
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jrc27 said:
I sure hope it doesn't go anywhere, I'd hate to have to drop size and buy the nexus 7
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Having owned a TF Prime, Infinity, and now the Nexus 7 the 7 is a surprisingly capable tablet.
Although Asus has it's fair share of build quality issues my Prime was rock solid and it was the 1st batch (pre-order) to boot. However I like many Prime owners took the Best Buy loophole and got an Infinity as a replacement since Asus discontinued the Prime even though they said they wouldn't. The Infinity has a noticeably crisper display, better color representation, as well as some better pre-installed apps like the stock browser and keyboard when compared to the Nexus 7. Despite this if you are willing to give up 3" of screen real estate the Nexus 7 is a much more polished tablet and has increased mobility, as a guy I can still fit it in my jean pocket.
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That's not really the point though. ASUS has effectively sold me a high end sports car that can only go 25mph on the highway. Looks and sounds impressive. Drives like A$$
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Spot on, the Nexus 7 is the opposite in that it looks like a cheap, crappy car but it's been tuned out the a$$. The Nexus 7 not only uses a weaker version of the Tegra 3 but also uses slower ram than the Infinity but doesn't suffer from the same I/O and "browser not responding" issues, its amazing what optimization can do.

They are no stopping support for this tablet.... that is just silly. Like others have said, just check out their previous track record with their older devices.
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The sluggishness is really getting to me!!

i just wanted to vent a little cause the sluggishness is really getting to me. After the JB update this tablet got worse. i factory reset and nothing.. Im thinking of taking it back to bestbuy and trading it for a note 10.1 but then again i will miss my keyboard and usb port... but i kinda had it with this tablet 540$ plus 100$ keyboard and this runs worse than the galaxy tab 10.1 witch is 2 years old... i haven't unlocked yet but from what i have read it does not make a huge difference.
I don't understand how this 4uad core tegra 3 tablet gets beaten by a iPad 2 or iPad 1 and definitely iPad 3 witch has a higher resolution.. The only thing i fear is that BB wont exchange since is past the 30 days policy arrrggggg what to dooooo!!!!!!????
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I agree with you, unfortunately. I understood how bad my tablet was when I played with my friend's iPad 2 the other day. iPad 2 was flying through the screens effortlessly with beautiful animations. My Transformer was on the other hand, despite being supposedly the best that Android can offer, like a 10 year old technology in comparison. Sad.

I am also in the same boat here as well. I really want to love this device however for the money it needs to perform better. Not to mention android apps for tablets are just not good enough yet. I have a few days left on my best buy return and have a bad feeling I will be coming home with an Ipad 3. Hoping a 10" nexus tablet will finally kick up the android tablet development to where it needs to be in the future.
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aydc said:
I agree with you, unfortunately. I understood how bad my tablet was when I played with my friend's iPad 2 the other day. iPad 2 was flying through the screens effortlessly with beautiful animations. My Transformer was on the other hand, despite being supposedly the best that Android can offer, like a 10 year old technology in comparison. Sad.
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Right now I'm on my wife's ipad 2 because my xda app force close on me on my infinity.... I love android and I keep trying to love my tablet but just using this ipad 2 makes think twice about not selling my infinity and getting the ipad 3. App wise I don't really care because I can actually find better apps on my tablet than I can on my wife's ipad although their rpg scene is crazy good. But the only think holding me back on getting and ipad is the storage because I'm the type of person that likes putting shows and movies on my tab. That's why I'm leaning more towards the note 10.1 since its smooth and has storage and keyboard (although not like the infinity) but the screen resolution lmao... I'm a picky bastard n I like the best technology that is out. For me the infinity would be great if it wasn't for the above problems... So I am kind of stuck in a loop and I don't know what to do.. Any suggestions?

hit173 said:
i just wanted to vent a little cause the sluggishness is really getting to me. After the JB update this tablet got worse. i factory reset and nothing.. Im thinking of taking it back to bestbuy and trading it for a note 10.1 but then again i will miss my keyboard and usb port... but i kinda had it with this tablet 540$ plus 100$ keyboard and this runs worse than the galaxy tab 10.1 witch is 2 years old... i haven't unlocked yet but from what i have read it does not make a huge difference.
I don't understand how this 4uad core tegra 3 tablet gets beaten by a iPad 2 or iPad 1 and definitely iPad 3 witch has a higher resolution.. The only thing i fear is that BB wont exchange since is past the 30 days policy arrrggggg what to dooooo!!!!!!????
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If you're not happy with your Transformer return it and get an iPad.

That's what I might just do... Witch is sad cuz I hate apple but I wasted to much money to get sluggish performance.

My old phone ( SE X10i ) with android 2.3.3 is smother than my JB tf 700. Browsing and typing are perfect, no lag no crashing or random reset... Tomorrow i'll get it exchanged for the loose screen, hope i get a better one.

i made the exact same statements a few days ago. I was so close to selling mines. Then i got convinced to root. I saw a major improvement in everything. I have not had and lag, reboots, stutters, anything, since i rooted. As sad as it may seem, this may be the only way to get the device stable (for those that are having issues). I recommend rooting before you return it.
but i agree with the other poster, if you are not happy and think you will like the ipad better, just get it.

I'm in a love/ hate type of relationship with my tab. When it works, it's a really great experience, but when it doesn't ( which is most of the time), I'm ready to chuck it out of the window. The random reboots, constant sluggish performance, and the copy and pasting snafu's really make me dislike this tablet. What really irks me is that there isn't any reason why this tab should be showing these symptoms. From what I've read the nexus 7 and transformer prime aren't victims of these issues to this extent, and the infinity is better tech wise. Like i said before, when the infinity works, it works very well, but the performance is far from consistent. I'm hoping a CM10/custom Rom can iron out these issues, and I'll have an infinity that outperforms my GN running CM10.

hit173 said:
i just wanted to vent a little cause the sluggishness is really getting to me. After the JB update this tablet got worse. i factory reset and nothing.. Im thinking of taking it back to bestbuy and trading it for a note 10.1 but then again i will miss my keyboard and usb port... but i kinda had it with this tablet 540$ plus 100$ keyboard and this runs worse than the galaxy tab 10.1 witch is 2 years old... i haven't unlocked yet but from what i have read it does not make a huge difference.
I don't understand how this 4uad core tegra 3 tablet gets beaten by a iPad 2 or iPad 1 and definitely iPad 3 witch has a higher resolution.. The only thing i fear is that BB wont exchange since is past the 30 days policy arrrggggg what to dooooo!!!!!!????
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With respect, you read wrong. It's not unlocking that makes the difference in performance, it's flashing a custom rom that has been formulated specifically to improve performance and eliminate lag. The best and most complete ROM currently available for Jellybean is the CleanROM v1.3. It really is a huge improvement.

Bought my Infinity on Friday and after reading this forum so much before buying I was surprised at how good the stock tablet was. You guys must be over exaggerating your experience, expecting to much, or you have a defective unit. Mine was smooth from the beginning and after rooting/unlocking and installing Clean Rom this thing flies. The only gripe I've had so far is browsing websites with lots of flash the browser tends to get a little sluggish.

be my lasst Asus product. This will probably
The above sentence was typed with a keyboard, after I typed "probably" it decided to lag out and well you can see the rest. I decided NOT to edit it because it's a prime example of how terrible the Infinity is and so is the rest of Asus's tablets.
I really like the Infinity but it's pisses me off to no end that they decided to cheap out on the internal memory and this is what you have to deal with. This thing is frustrating to use and chrome is about useless on this. I guess I'm going to have to unlock, which is NOT what I want to do and try out some different roms because this tab makes me want to punch my fist through it's beautiful screen.
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Jarrett601 said:
Bought my Infinity on Friday and after reading this forum so much before buying I was surprised at how good the stock tablet was. You guys must be over exaggerating your experience, expecting to much, or you have a defective unit. Mine was smooth from the beginning and after rooting/unlocking and installing Clean Rom this thing flies. The only gripe I've had so far is browsing websites with lots of flash the browser tends to get a little sluggish.
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So you used it for a few days presumably before flashing a DIFFERENT rom and it's working fine for you, that's great. I've been using mine since pretty much release and it was pretty quick at first too, or at least it seemed that way. I'm probably going to flash a custom rom and see an improvement as well but the fact remains that I shouldn't have to. If the iPad performed as badly as Asus tablets, it would be all over the media. I wouldn't buy an iPad, because I don't care much for Apple, but I know they wouldn't release a half baked product like the Infinity. It's a real shame that the Android OEMs can't bake a complete product, seems like there's an endless sea of garbage and I'd wager to say no real competition among Android tabs.

okantomi said:
With respect, you read wrong. It's not unlocking that makes the difference in performance, it's flashing a custom rom that has been formulated specifically to improve performance and eliminate lag. The best and most complete ROM currently available for Jellybean is the CleanROM v1.3. It really is a huge improvement.
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From what I read it is a improvement but not a huge one that I would be willing to give my warranty away for it. The Rom is in ver 2.0 already and is a clean experience, but it does not fix the issues I have on a daily basis. The thing that irks me the most is that this tablet has so much potential and it looks
awesome and then my friend comes over with and iPad 3 or I play with my Wifes iPad 2 and I feel like my infinity is two years old technology wise compare to them. I wish at least my browsing experience would be good (which is what I am suffering with the most lately). I tried the debug settings and also browser to ram before when I had root with ics, and it was good for a while but it began acting up again for no operant reason. I just hope we get a update from Asus with some more fixes, and funny thing is my build quality is superb, no lightBleed, screen lifting, nor did I have random reboots till recently when I updated to jb.
On another note, how can I downgrade without unlocking? So I can root again and use root keeper to get back to jb with root? I read those threads they have on how to root jb but no one has answer my question if I need to be unblocked.
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BTrack said:
If you're not happy with your Transformer return it and get an iPad.
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That's not a solution, because iPad has no sdcard slot, needs to be jailbroken to work properly, dependant on iTunes etc. That's not the point. The point is, why can't a latest technology Android tablet run half as fluently as a 3 year old iPad?

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That's not a solution, because iPad has no sdcard slot, needs to be jailbroken to work properly, dependant on iTunes etc. That's not the point. The point is, why can't a latest technology Android tablet run half as fluently as a 3 year old iPad?
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Get a note 10.1 if you want to stay on Android. It's very fast and lag free at the cost of screen resolution.
This lag reminds me of my old Samsung Galaxy S that has a nand chip with slow write i/o, but good read i/o.
The lag was fixed by moving /data/data to the much faster but smaller onenand chip as it requires alot of write i/o. The rest of /data and /system was moved to the nand chip as it uses alot of read i/o, but very little write i/o (updating apps).
I wonder if a similar fix will work for the TF700?

I agree here. Is not as easy as saying "get an ipad if you don't like it"
The problem, imo, is too many people apologize for Androids performance woes. There's no reason a tablet with a quad core processor and so much memory should be outperformed by the ipad.
But the reason it is, is because of software. Even after all these years Android still hasn't caught up. They never will if ppl continue to apologize for them.
I can't just up and leave Android but i do wish it would improve. When i use my wife ipad 3, I'm amazed at its fluidity. Sucks that the infinity doesn't come close to that.

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I agree here. Is not as easy as saying "get an ipad if you don't like it"
The problem, imo, is too many people apologize for Androids performance woes. There's no reason a tablet with a quad core processor and so much memory should be outperformed by the ipad.
But the reason it is, is because of software. Even after all these years Android still hasn't caught up. They never will if ppl continue to apologize for them.
I can't just up and leave Android but i do wish it would improve. When i use my wife ipad 3, I'm amazed at its fluidity. Sucks that the infinity doesn't come close to that.
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It's not a software issue, Asus specifically chose to cheap out on the internal nand memory. It's performance is dismal, at best. It's the reason why their tablets have lots of anr issues and laggy performance.

if you have used the infinty for any length of time you will not be able to use the note 10.1 the screen is poor - i bought the note and used it for 2 hours and returned it
i cant speak about the stock jb as i have never used it - i am unlocked / rooted and running paranoidandroid 2.2 with holo launcher hd and it is very fast no lag whatsoever - also just ran pimp my rom v2.0 to speed it up even more !!
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czerdrill said:
I agree here. Is not as easy as saying "get an ipad if you don't like it"
The problem, imo, is too many people apologize for Androids performance woes. There's no reason a tablet with a quad core processor and so much memory should be outperformed by the ipad.
But the reason it is, is because of software. Even after all these years Android still hasn't caught up. They never will if ppl continue to apologize for them.
I can't just up and leave Android but i do wish it would improve. When i use my wife ipad 3, I'm amazed at its fluidity. Sucks that the infinity doesn't come close to that.
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This is exactly my point. Why should the fluidity on a 3 year old iPad surpass ours?... I really don't like the Apple ecosystem, I love downloading things from my tablet and being able to use it right away not having to go to iTunes for everything music n video related. There is some hardware issue but to be honest is mostly software. Android as whole has not been fully optimised for all the different kinds of devices that support it. From full HD screen to non HD, from 10.1 screen to 4.0. There is to many different devices and that might be one of the problems with Android. Google should be a little bit more strict when it comes too software specially from other manufactures like Asus. Things like this put a bad image on Android as a whole. But like some one said earlier even this thing works good is the best, but why should I be relying on it working good sometimes and sometimes not. For 544$ this should not be the case.
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Unibrow said:
It's not a software issue, Asus specifically chose to cheap out on the internal nand memory. It's performance is dismal, at best. It's the reason why their tablets have lots of anr issues and laggy performance.
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I don't know about that, lag and sluggishness has been an issue with Android devices since the beginning of time. When i first got jb on my nexus i really thought they had finally figured it out, but within a couple of months the lag has returned in full force.
If it was an asus thing, it wouldn't be like that for all the Android devices i known.
Like i said, im not leaving Android because i still love it, but I'm also not going to pretend everything is fine when it's not.

Should i get TF700

Hey there guys
I'm confused if i should opt for this tab
i heard many games appear blurry, apps looked stretched?So thats kinda bad, that apps cant make use of the 1080p so should i get this tab?

You should have placed this thread elsewhere

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You should have placed this thread elsewhere
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Yes i posted here by mistake , i opened two tabs one of this and Q & A thought this was q & A
sorry
MODS please move this

Go get your hands on one at Best Buy and check it out.
Don't forget to compare it with other tabs while you're there. The infinity is notorious for being slow.
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R0CKSTAR3N3RGY said:
Go get your hands on one at Best Buy and check it out.
Don't forget to compare it with other tabs while you're there. The infinity is notorious for being slow.
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I can't try any tablets out, cause they din't release in India still now,nexus 7 might come out next month,,,but might be overpriced here :/
Actually i'm asking my uncle whose in USA to get this for me, and only Asus tablets have international warranty
If nexus 7 comes out with 32 gigs ill get that then.

The newest tablets I can compare for you is this and the GNote 10.1
GNote 10.1 runs faster and the s-pen is great
TF700 is a bit laggier but amazing res and yes, a lot of apps aren't that great for 1080p
But we know apps will be
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Lets ignore the higher than average build quality issues, since you can just pick a place that will let you return many times until you get one without visual hardware flaws. (make sure you do that.. pick a place with a good return policy)
I am seriously disappointed in this tablet. (it's my second one) It's really slow and really choppy. I would NOT spend my own money on this device. But that's your decision to make. I shouldn't have to unlock and void my warranty to make my tablet work at an "almost" acceptable level. Running Cleanrom 1.0 makes the tablet way better, but still nowhere near the level an expensive device should be at. I'll try Cleanrom 2.1 tonight.
When I say really slow and choppy, this isn't even with games or items that really tax the resources. This is while using things like Pulse reader.. or pretty much anything that has to scroll or requires multiple touch actions in a row. like open email, scroll to bottom to check something, and press delete all in pretty quick succession. You have to pretty much pause between each screen touch so the tablet can keep up or you get "Application Not Responding". This is likely related to the poor I/O. (my 2 year old phone, and 2 year old ACER dont have this issue)
I helped out a previous employer and was given this tablet as a gift.. I keep it because depending on how you look at it, it wasn't really my hard earned cash that paid for it. I'm sure there are many people out there who love their tablet... But compared to my much older and much lower spec Acer A500 this thing sucks. If you dont NEED the keyboard.. try the Acer A700 instead.
The screen on the TF700 is very nice (the serious light bleed is only really noticeable at start-up). I have had no issues with blurriness or general ugliness. Obviously with the high resolution things must scale and any applications built with low quality graphics will be fuzzy when scaled. This is not an issue with the tablet, but rather with the App developer. Any high res screen will have the same issues until all app devs convert to higher quality graphics.
After dealing with my friends terrible TF201 (prime) and now this TF700 (2 of them).. Which proves ASUS is either not capable of fixing the performance issues, or simply doesn't care. Either way it will take a lot for me to throw any cash toward ASUS in the future.

Moved to the correct board.
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Okay, but so so many people say tf700 is really good, Wont JB make it better?
or am i better of getting nexus 7 32 gig + OTG to add my external HDD.
I would love to get the note 10.1, but sadly it doesnt have a international warranty.. and i makes no sense getting it from India as its around 40,000rs(800$)
So,i'll be getting either T700 or Nexus 7 or yea ipad mini(though am not intrested in apples products).

Honestly, i don't know why so many people say bad things about this tablet. No device is perfect, they all have their flaws... you just have to choose which ones are most important to you. Since I've gotten this tablet I've experienced nothing but good things... apps and games are fine and will only get better. Speed is fine with the browser2ram apk installed... and the look and feel of this thing is just amazing. Don't let all the negative comments here mislead you. I was worried when I bought this tablet then came here to read only negative things, but after taking the leap of faith I have no regrets.
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Okay, but so so many people say tf700 is really good, Wont JB make it better?
or am i better of getting nexus 7 32 gig + OTG to add my external HDD.
I would love to get the note 10.1, but sadly it doesnt have a international warranty.. and i makes no sense getting it from India as its around 40,000rs(800$)
So,i'll be getting either T700 or Nexus 7 or yea ipad mini(though am not intrested in apples products).
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No don't get it.
Why?
Because if you can't get rid of it easily after being disappointed then there you are.
Stuck with it...
...unless your not too worried about having a problematic tablet.

Well. i agree with all your point's.
Acer and 2-3 more compaines are coming out with 1080p tabs + htc butterfly which is a 1080p phablet.
So, i assume all these "might" lead to a quality full HD app's?
And does the nexus 7 support OTG
Great now i find out it has dead pixel issues :/

I think it's a good investment. I love the **** out of my Inifnity. Yes, there are some QC issues like light bleed (very little in my case) and screen adhesive issues (again, very little for me) but I still think the price is justified. This is why stores have return policies.The best thing a consumer can do in this case, is to give the company as much feedback as possible. The majority of consumers don't realize how much influence they really have. Even the iPad has issues like these. Granted, Apple customer support is probably a lot more responsive. I still think people should not go into the tablet market, being so young as it is, and expect perfection.
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I wouldn't recommend this tablet. I have had it since it launched and I waited too long to return it.I waited for JB to be released on it. It ran ok with ICS but now that it has JB its pretty sluggish and choppy compared to other tablets in the Transformer line that run JB(which was a huge letdown considering the hardware in this thing). And as of now, there nothing optimized for its 1080p screen. This tablet is just a little too far ahead of its time. If i could make any recommendation, I would say wait until the Nexus 10 is released.

Yea nexus 10 will be too late(and probably when it comes out i wont be able to get it, cause next year my uncle might not come down to india).. now i'm looking into nexus 7,ipad mini and ipad 3 :/

theserpent said:
Well. i agree with all your point's.
Acer and 2-3 more compaines are coming out with 1080p tabs + htc butterfly which is a 1080p phablet.
So, i assume all these "might" lead to a quality full HD app's?
And does the nexus 7 support OTG
Great now i find out it has dead pixel issues :/
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Acer already makes an HD tablet.
That would be the A700...take it from me a former owner.
Don`t go there either.
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so No to ASUS TF700?
Won't custom roms make it better

I say yes if it would be easy to return after buying.
Doesn't sound as though it would be easy for you to return if you had problems.
I would recommend the Infinity with reservations.
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I'l keep this tab on hold
I'll look into ipad mini too
BTW does nexus 7 support OTG,so i can connect my USB drive or HDD

Might be good to check the Nexus forum here at XDA.
From what I read OTG may not be fully supported (read only)
Would you by any chance consider the Windows Surface as an alternative?