[Q] - General Questions and Answers

I've been testing out many of the ICS roms for
my Vibrant but the flash player is choppy at best,
other than that it seem to be better than Gingerbread.
Can anybody help me out???.

willshamet said:
I've been testing out many of the ICS roms for
my Vibrant but the flash player is choppy at best,
other than that it seem to be better than Gingerbread.
Can anybody help me out???.
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You'll need to wait until full hardware acceleration (both graphics and media decode) are working, and *maybe* things will be better. But flash is going the way of the dodo, so flash + ICS may be a seldom working scenario going forward.

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Captivate Adobe Flash Choppiness

I sold my Motorola Atrix because I couldn't stand the phone and I ended up picking up a Captivate a few days ago for $160 in excellent condition.
Anyways, I installed Serendipity rom and I can't watch ANY flash videos without it being very choppy. Every 2 seconds it stops for a quick moment and then continues. It's the newest version of flash. I tried Hulu and it doesn't work at all, only black screen. I've been searching on here for a resolution and haven't been able to find anything. I've seen videos online of flash videos working flawlessly.
If anyone can help me, It would be greatly appreciated it. Thanks in advance!
Its probably your location. When i'm at home i can stream vids on my Cappy faster and smoother than my 2 year old laptop, but when i visit my brother it breaks up pretty often at first. Letting it sit for about 5mins fixes it for me. But when i try to watch another vid it starts breaking up and i have to sit and wait again. Have you tried browsers like Opera Mobile and Skyfire? They stream better than the standard browser for me.
tercenary said:
Its probably your location. When i'm at home i can stream vids on my Cappy faster and smoother than my 2 year old laptop, but when i visit my brother it breaks up pretty often at first. Letting it sit for about 5mins fixes it for me. But when i try to watch another vid it starts breaking up and i have to sit and wait again. Have you tried browsers like Opera Mobile and Skyfire? They stream better than the standard browser for me.
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It does this no matter where I am. I've been using Dolphin and the stock browser. At work we have 20mbps down and at home I got 15mbps and it does this at both locations. Let me try the different browsers and if not, what do you think about changing the rom?
Also what rom do you have?
Thanks for the reply!
I had acceptable flash playback with Serendipity 6.3. It'd run a bit choppy at times, but mostly decent so long as you didn't resize the window or scroll while the video was running.
I'm getting MUCH MUCH better playback with the stock 2.3.3 firmware. The browser seems to be hardware accelerated and the flash video playback has desktop-like smoothness, even during scrolling and resizing.
modest_mandroid said:
I had acceptable flash playback with Serendipity 6.3. It'd run a bit choppy at times, but mostly decent so long as you didn't resize the window or scroll while the video was running.
I'm getting MUCH MUCH better playback with the stock 2.3.3 firmware. The browser seems to be hardware accelerated and the flash video playback has desktop-like smoothness, even during scrolling and resizing.
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I ended up trying Skyfire and it was a little bit better but still not good.
modest_mandroid - can you please give me the link to the rom? Thanks.
rivlez said:
It does this no matter where I am. I've been using Dolphin and the stock browser. At work we have 20mbps down and at home I got 15mbps and it does this at both locations. Let me try the different browsers and if not, what do you think about changing the rom?
Also what rom do you have?
Thanks for the reply!
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I've been running Dragon RC6.1 with Speedmod K13E kernel for almost a week. It took about a day and a half for the 2 to sync but performance and battery life are really good now.
I'd say try different ROM's and see what you get. I've tried Serendipity, SpeedNLooks, and Phoenix ROM's and had absolutely no problem with them. But when i jumped from Andromeda 2.2 to Andromeda 3 and from DragonRC6 to DragonRC7 i found the older version just worked better for me.
rivlez said:
I ended up trying Skyfire and it was a little bit better but still not good.
modest_mandroid - can you please give me the link to the rom? Thanks.
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Skyfire doesn't actually use adobe flash The video is decoded on skyfire's servers and streamed to your phone via some other method. Their whole "thing" was to provide flash support for phones that didn't support it natively. Kind of pointless on Android phones these days.
There actually isn't a stock 2.3 rom built specifically for the captivate yet and we still don't have a fully compatible kernel. The installation process is a bit involved at this point, so unless you like spending a day tinkering, giving up certain features (screen rotation), and potentially bricking (seriously), you might want to hold off for a bit.
If not, and you're willing to take the plunge, you can get the stock firmware from www.samfirmware.com (XWJVB) and flash it via odin. Be severely warned that this will flash new bootloaders, which can potentially permabrick your phone if things go boom while it's flashing sbl.bin. Warning #2, the key combo for recovery and download mode will have changed - download mode is now vol down+menu+power, recovery is vol up+power.
After you've flashed the official i9000 2.3, you can either stick with it and flash xcaliburinhand's partially-reoriented beta kernel, or you can flash any of the other 2.3 roms from the i9000 dev section and flash xcal's kernel over them. You should also read through the kernel thread in the dev section. There is a lot of good info in there. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1042543
Things you'll lose by flashing 2.3: Screen auto-rotation, BLN, Voodoo (lagfix, sound, color), ability to overclock, probably a few other less significant things.
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Skyfire doesn't actually use adobe flash The video is decoded on skyfire's servers and streamed to your phone via some other method. Their whole "thing" was to provide flash support for phones that didn't support it natively. Kind of pointless on Android phones these days.
There actually isn't a stock 2.3 rom built specifically for the captivate yet and we still don't have a fully compatible kernel. The installation process is a bit involved at this point, so unless you like spending a day tinkering, giving up certain features (screen rotation), and potentially bricking (seriously), you might want to hold off for a bit.
If not, and you're willing to take the plunge, you can get the stock firmware from www.samfirmware.com (XWJVB) and flash it via odin. Be severely warned that this will flash new bootloaders, which can potentially permabrick your phone if things go boom while it's flashing sbl.bin. Warning #2, the key combo for recovery and download mode will have changed - download mode is now vol down+menu+power, recovery is vol up+power.
After you've flashed the official i9000 2.3, you can either stick with it and flash xcaliburinhand's partially-reoriented beta kernel, or you can flash any of the other 2.3 roms from the i9000 dev section and flash xcal's kernel over them. You should also read through the kernel thread in the dev section. There is a lot of good info in there. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1042543
Things you'll lose by flashing 2.3: Screen auto-rotation, BLN, Voodoo (lagfix, sound, color), ability to overclock, probably a few other less significant things.
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A new Skyfire must've came out. I was watching live streaming through the actual flash player not the converter they have. It looks like i'll just try CM7 2.3.3 and see how that goes. I'm assuming CM7 and the 2.3 leak both have the same capabilities, right? I just really want to have a stable flash player. Thanks for your help!
rivlez said:
A new Skyfire must've came out. I was watching live streaming through the actual flash player not the converter they have. It looks like i'll just try CM7 2.3.3 and see how that goes. I just really want to have a stable flash player. Thanks for your help!
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CM7 flash performance is comparable to serendipity 6.* in my experience. It doesn't have the same hardware accelerated browser that the JVB rom has.
modest_mandroid said:
CM7 flash performance is comparable to serendipity 6.* in my experience. It doesn't have the same hardware accelerated browser that the JVB rom has.
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I'm assuming I have to go back to stock then flash the stock 2.3.3, right?
Not really. You'll be flashing the firmware and bootloaders, so it's essentially like flashing back to stock, except now stock is 2.3 and your orientation is mental. Check out the kernel thread, it has instructions.
I'm on Firefly 2.9 currently about to flash to 3.0 with Speedmod K13E and flash runs fine on my phone, it's more dependent on my connection than anything else.
You would like to check the version of ur flash player too.
I know there are some newer versions of flash player that actually degrade the performance of existing devices.
Flash player is poorly implemented in general, you will need some test to find the best fit version.

[Q] Enable 1080p playback on Gingerbread ROMs?

I just picked up my Infuse today, and it came preloaded with a 1080p trailer that looked pretty stunning on the phone. A few hours later, I'm running Darky 10.2.2 Final and everything is setup and working perfectly when I realize that the I9000 doesn't support >720p playback—and surely enough, I can no longer play 1080p videos on my Infuse. But then I flashed Infused, and I'm still unable to play videos >720p.
Is there any known way of enabling 1080p playback on Gingerbread? I did searching, but I couldn't find any topics about 1080p playback. Is this a bug, or is it a feature limited to AT&T ROM's for some reason?
Edit: Actually, I did some more testing and noticed that video support is abysmal compared to my Captivate. Some of my 720p videos (that play fine on my Captivate) are just a black screen and no sound, while others play fine. Also, playing videos using the software decoder of players like MX Video Player and MoboPlayer works just fine on my Captivate, but the same videos played in software on my Infuse result in a garbled, robotic sound and laggy video. These are pretty annoying problems, considering that my Captivate used to be my PMP and I expected the Infuse to be even better.
re: playback problems.
GGXtreme said:
Is there any known way of enabling 1080p playback on Gingerbread? I did searching, but I couldn't find any topics about 1080p playback. Is this a bug, or is it a feature limited to AT&T ROM's for some reason?
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The reason you are having these problems is that none of the Gingerbread
custom roms here are the official AT&T release.
Instead the Gingerbread roms here were dumped from the Canadian Rogers
Infuse phones.
If you really are not satisfied with the current Rogers Gingerbread custom roms
then there is only one way to get the video playback to work according to
the Samsung Infuse specifications.
You will need to flash a Samung Infuse Froyo custom rom or go back to the
original stock Froyo rom which your phone came with.
Here are two links for you, one is for GTG's Infused v1.60 Froyo custom rom
which can be found here with complete step by step instructions:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1105413
This other link is for GTG's Infuse Froyo stock rom with step by step instructions:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1116251
Either one of these two roms will play back videos according to the
Samsung Infuse specifications.
I would suggest to go with the Infused v1.60 custom rom since its
a lot faster and smoother plus it has many extra features and options.
Good luck!
Are you playing the same 1080p trailer? It may be possible to pull libs from ki3 or ki4 into infused but it seems kinda useless since the infuse screen is only 480x800 and there is no NHL support in any non att rom. You may want to get Odin or heimdall and run the ki3 leak (better modem) or ki4 leak with the ki3 modem. Just flash it with the hellraiser kernel first ( easiest in heimdall 1.1 since you extract the package so you don't need to write into the package and worry about permissions. Issues) then flash the proper kernel after the phone has booted once. This will give you a rooted att 2.3.5 rom with HDMI but no recovery get sgs kernel flasher to flash back to the hellraiser kernel if you need recovery for any reason (this kernel breaks audio over usb and HDMI ). I ran my phone like this a coupe weeks and was pretty happy with it except for the rainbow garbage on boot.
Dani897 said:
Are you playing the same 1080p trailer? It may be possible to pull libs from ki3 or ki4 into infused but it seems kinda useless since the infuse screen is only 480x800 and there is no NHL support in any non att rom. You may want to get Odin or heimdall and run the ki3 leak (better modem) or ki4 leak with the ki3 modem. Just flash it with the hellraiser kernel first ( easiest in heimdall 1.1 since you extract the package so you don't need to write into the package and worry about permissions. Issues) then flash the proper kernel after the phone has booted once. This will give you a rooted att 2.3.5 rom with HDMI but no recovery get sgs kernel flasher to flash back to the hellraiser kernel if you need recovery for any reason (this kernel breaks audio over usb and HDMI ). I ran my phone like this a coupe weeks and was pretty happy with it except for the rainbow garbage on boot.
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Yea, it's the exact same set of videos. And I know the screen is only 800x480, but I have a large library of HD videos including 1080p and I don't like to spend hours converting files to reduce quality and take up additional space I don't really care about MHL/HDMI, I have laptops and HTPC's for that.
I might give KI3/4 a try, since I already flashed back to stock only to run into an unfixable (without factory reset) market bug. Do you know if they have the same format support as Froyo, or if the kernel has any effect on media playback?
Edit: Nvm. I just realized custom kernels won't boot the ROM and a Voodoo sound+OC kernel is a must for me.
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Yea, it's the exact same set of videos. And I know the screen is only 800x480, but I have a large library of HD videos including 1080p and I don't like to spend hours converting files to reduce quality and take up additional space I don't really care about MHL/HDMI, I have laptops and HTPC's for that.
I might give KI3/4 a try, since I already flashed back to stock only to run into an unfixable (without factory reset) market bug. Do you know if they have the same format support as Froyo, or if the kernel has any effect on media playback?
Edit: Nvm. I just realized custom kernels won't boot the ROM and a Voodoo sound+OC kernel is a must for me.
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Use entropy or hellraiser kernel. Yes they and others boot the rom. Older kernels had no wifi but Linux bozo and entropy pulled in initramfs mods from the ki4 kernel fixing that and improving data speeds. Just remember if you go to the stock kernel ( doesn't sound like you will) you would need to disable voodoo.
I posted a deodexed ki3 but it had issues. The email app wouldn't install and it was kinda slow. It ran much better odexed.
Dani897 said:
Use entropy or hellraiser kernel. Yes they and others boot the rom. Older kernels had no wifi but Linux bozo and entropy pulled in initramfs mods from the ki4 kernel fixing that and improving data speeds. Just remember if you go to the stock kernel ( doesn't sound like you will) you would need to disable voodoo.
I posted a deodexed ki3 but it had issues. The email app wouldn't install and it was kinda slow. It ran much better odexed.
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Hmm, I might give it a try. I'm on Infused 1.6 for now, but I've noticed that a lot of video playback issues still persists and seem to only affect the Infuse, regardless of the ROM it's running. Other I9000-based phones don't have these issues, so I'm pretty disappointed since there doesn't seem to be any fix available.

Currently what doesn't work properly in ICS?

I've looked through many ICS threads and they have become so big that it's almost impossible for a new user to research on the current state of its development. Can those who have been up to dates with the latest ICS builds tell me what currently does not work very well on ICS?
ilovecats said:
I've looked through many ICS threads and they have become so big that it's almost impossible for a new user to research on the current state of its development. Can those who have been up to dates with the latest ICS builds tell me what currently does not work very well on ICS?
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The short answer is video hw encoding/decoding
That means you won't have hw codec and camera will not work properly in some apps. To be honest, the only app I have problem with is gtalk.
Also, ICS roms are not as stable as GB, so you might come up with problems like phone not responding or random reboots or something else. Personally I don't have many issues like that but they are possible as all phones are different, you better be aware of the fact that ICS roms may not work as you imagine. However, it's probably worth a try
If you are a speed freak don't flash ics,I personally tried ics even on galaxy nexus and its buggy.I think its virtually too new even for the people who "wait".Our excellent devs have enhance the experience but still has issues with browsing,transitions,Sometimes having to press same icon repeatly to click on it.HW Is important in all those aspects.
MX video player fixes watching videos somewhat,YouTube works but I say stick with Cm,miui. Hopefully it wont be long before LG launches its rollout to the 2x.Supposely in 2nd quarter so sometime between now and july.From there it makes development on ics easier.If I help hit Thanks
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[Q] ICS & Flash Video

Okay, maybe someone will know the answer to this.
Every single ICS rom I've tried... and I'm pretty sure that's all of them... has had abysmal performance playing flash video through a browser. I'm talking from
jt's original ICS... to
Entropy's ICS...to
uniporn
jblparisi's
remixICS
etc. etc.
Now, just to be clear... all of those ROMs that I mentioned I thoroughly enjoy... they had/have a lot of work put into them, and I thank the devs.
But this puzzles me... I had perfect flash video playback on a number of GB roms... notably AEON... now we move to ICS... and it's incapable of doing the same thing?
Also, whatever the problem is, it is some kind of common thread that runs through every ICS release for the infuse. I've tested. There is no example of this problem not being present.
Anyone have information, or a solution, or have noticed this problem themselves?
Thanks
I do agree with your statement.
I think this is due to the Wi-Fi and data speeds. Unlike GB ROMs, build.prop has not yet been extensively looked at in ICS ROMs. Network speed drops can be expected going from GB to ICS.
Again, this is just my opinion. Do not take my word for it.
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You have a good point there, build.prop was not something that had occurred to me.
The only thing that makes me suspicious of that particular theory is...surely all the ICS roms can't have the same build.prop settings, right? So if it was coming from there, I guess I'd be expecting to see some roms performing better or worse than others... and yet when it comes to flash video, they are pretty consistently bad, with little variation.
Thanks for the idea though, I hope that you're right and that this is just something that can be fixed by build.prop rewrites.
You do have adobe flash player installed right? Unlike gingerbread roms I don't know of an ics Rom that comes with flash player installed...when I had the infuse as soon as I installed flash player I never had a problem with flash videos...also I never had a problem with slower network speeds...
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mg2195 said:
You do have adobe flash player installed right? Unlike gingerbread roms I don't know of an ics Rom that comes with flash player installed...when I had the infuse as soon as I installed flash player I never had a problem with flash videos...also I never had a problem with slower network speeds...
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Hehehe yeah I'm not that much of a fool =P
I tested everything I'm talking about with flash player installed. ICS can't deal with the video, it sticks and sputters like a broken faucet... super choppy, stops and starts... etc.
I can't testify 100% but I'm pretty sure that my data speeds on ICS are reduced as compared to GB roms.
With Wi-Fi, however, I think the speeds are comparable.
If this was happening on a PC, I could fix it. My first thought would be video driver issues, so I would remove all traces and then install the newest version.
Unfortunately, it's not that simple on Android...
I've read tons of discussions with Entropy and others talking about the video libs, and I remember that while the idea of "perfect smooth video" sounds like something that should be easy/simple to accomplish... it's actually a pretty deep rabbit hole. It seemed to me it's a fairly complex problem that draws on a lot of areas and takes a lot of work to get right.
I just wonder what this could be... what did GB have that ICS doesn't?
thanks for the reply, mg =)
dht2005 said:
Hehehe yeah I'm not that much of a fool =P
I tested everything I'm talking about with flash player installed. ICS can't deal with the video, it sticks and sputters like a broken faucet... super choppy, stops and starts... etc.
I can't testify 100% but I'm pretty sure that my data speeds on ICS are reduced as compared to GB roms.
With Wi-Fi, however, I think the speeds are comparable.
If this was happening on a PC, I could fix it. My first thought would be video driver issues, so I would remove all traces and then install the newest version.
Unfortunately, it's not that simple on Android...
I've read tons of discussions with Entropy and others talking about the video libs, and I remember that while the idea of "perfect smooth video" sounds like something that should be easy/simple to accomplish... it's actually a pretty deep rabbit hole. It seemed to me it's a fairly complex problem that draws on a lot of areas and takes a lot of work to get right.
I just wonder what this could be... what did GB have that ICS doesn't?
thanks for the reply, mg =)
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Well...ics is aosp/aokp...so it is highly likely it could be missing some video libs and what not...off the top of ky head I know for a fact that gb has TWframeworks as well as many different libs...I have no infuse to test the choppy video so when I say i never expiernced it that is just based off my memory...basically what in getting at is that your theory is possible
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Thanks! yeah, I'm no android expert, I'm just going by what makes sense to me.
Assuming just for a second that video libs were in fact the issue...I have a couple questions.
Is there anyone who would know how to identify the specific source of the problem?
Is there any more information I could somehow get/provide that might help?
Or is this just the kind of issue where... ICS is pretty new still, and in time it will probably be fixed? (wait & see)
dht2005 said:
Thanks! yeah, I'm no android expert, I'm just going by what makes sense to me.
Assuming just for a second that video libs were in fact the issue...I have a couple questions.
Is there anyone who would know how to identify the specific source of the problem?
Is there any more information I could somehow get/provide that might help?
Or is this just the kind of issue where... ICS is pretty new still, and in time it will probably be fixed? (wait & see)
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Well logcats always help...those say exactly what your phone is doing and provide all errors your phone is receiving...from what I've seen, pony (the guy providing logcats for the miui build) is good with logcats...but he's busy with miui. I'm not even sure if you would find anything useful in the logcat anyway since it is somewhat working...I'm sure it will be fixed in time though
So if you know how to logcat then get one and see what it says...if not than just wait, I'm sure someone will end up working on a fix
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CM9 vs stock ICS which is better?

just as the title says, which is a better fit for our tab? I upgraded to ICS but i see the aug10 cm9 update fixes almost everything. Which is a better flash?
If you want to be able to have more market apps available go with cm9
Because the official ICS prohibits you from downloading apps such as virtual tennis NFS not pursuit, real racing etc..
CM9 gives you a raw android experience and is snappier in my opinion because it uses a kernel similar to s3 I think
The official ROM however seems to have a slight advantage with screen clarity
It has pop up apps which can allow you to text while in an app.
The official ROM also scores higher in quadrant benchmark . But in my opinion cm9 is smoother and has better battery life.
PS: been installing both ROMs back and forth
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I went from HC 3.2 to CM9 on my 6210, and defnitely agree with the snappiness of the CM9.
I just have a disease and feel the need to jailbreak/hack any electronics I own. LOL And the ability to sideload apps that are otherwise non-compatible with my tablet works well too.
depends on what you like, at least for now, since our cm9 is still buggy, and not to mention we are not don't even have any custom ROM/firmware/kernel with optimization yet since the only 2 developers for tab plus is still working on getting everything to work properly. but overall, cm9 is better than stock for me. more apps support, better battery life, more performance. but the stock is more stable, for now, and have much better camera(if you care about it, i do).
appreciate the replies guys. Its hard having the galaxy nexus with tons of support and than having this which i love but development is crawling. I guess i'll flash cm9 soon and see how i like it compared to the iCS leak.
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just as the title says, which is a better fit for our tab? I upgraded to ICS but i see the aug10 cm9 update fixes almost everything. Which is a better flash?
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cm9 is a lot nicer than the stock ics.
well that is my opinion.
Stock ics is better than cm9. you get polaris, better icon handling and customization with touchwiz, no force closes. I find cm9 bland and lacking. Smoothness is the same for me.
Well if you prefer a complete functioning tablet, then you should stick with the stock ICS ROM.
Thing that aren't working with CM9:
IR Blaster
Audio output on 30 Pin Connector
MTP (MAC only, Windows users indicate it works)
DSP Manager including any Equializer app
WIFI finicky
HDMI output

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