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I have been using this build for quite a while now and decided to write a review of the ROM. Please keep in mind I am not a developer !!! I am simply writing this from a user standpoint and cannot nor will not support your problems. This is a review based on my opinions and usage of the ROM.
Pros:
I do like the UI. It is fairly stable and I haven't had much trouble out of it for the most part. The combination of ADW Launcher and the Cyanogen settings are great. The speed of the ROM is pretty good for a ported ROM based on GingerBread. I can't complain much about that. General things that I like are the advanced menus for customizing the dock and theme settings. The themed settings change icons for contacts, mail, messaging, phone, browser,calendar, and videos ( I may have missed some). The cyanogen settings cover an array of things that you can poke at but in my opinion should be included with stock builds as well. Overall if you were wanting to use this on a daily basis I think you would be ok to go ahead and install this ROM... NOTE: Don't hold me responsible if you brick your phone trying. It isn't one of the easiest roms I've
ever installed. The sleep policy has been fixed so that the phone doesn't reboot on unlock...which on my first flash hadn't been fixed and really really turned me off from this ROM.
Cons: I have yet to figure out why this is (again not a dev) but your microSD card will not mount when connected to the pc. I'm sure they are working on this but I haven't downloaded an update or nightly (which is current at the time of this post btw) that has fixed it. I do have some random picky things that I can't get an answer to, and good luck if you do...feel free to send them to me also. Some of my .mp3 ringtones will not work period. Different ones of even larger file size work... I'm not sure how that works out. Text messaging (native) doesn't work for incoming or outgoing... But I will say that I was having issues with that before so I can't blame that on this ROM. There are a few apps that won't work with this build easy uninstaller is one, I just get a fc. Battery is another issue that may be addressed with future releases. I don't run GPS (so don't ask if it's accurate) but keep wifi on all the time. I get probably about 8 hours with wifi on all the time. Not the best but definitely not the worst. You also cannot charge the phone while it is off... really not sure why, and the extended power menu doesn't work. And for the most part is an in depth install procedure... Back to stock with odin, flash two kernals, then a couple of files... Pretty lengthy and you have to be precise or else it bricks. Here it is if your interested... Thanks to MobileTechVideos for the instructions and video.
How to install CyanogenMod7
Other than that I have had virtually no problems (that I consider major) with this ROM and do like it and will probably continue to use it. If you have any general questions please feel free to ask. Again, again... I am not a dev so questions of that nature should be posted here: CyanogenMod7
I tried it and liked what works but it is still alpha quality and so i will wait for a few weeks until i give it another shot.
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I tried it and liked what works but it is still alpha quality and so i will wait for a few weeks until i give it another shot.
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I agree, it is definitely still a beta build and as noted by Cyanogen... hasn't been put into the stable build section of their forums. I do look forward to a stable build. Perhaps the Dev's can address some of the weird issues that I mentioned above.
i also was not able to send multi media mms never would go through i tried for 20 mins to receive and send ,
this rom is great but here is why it sucks, i watch the cyanogen nightlies for the galaxy s phones, and with the types of updates im seeing on the cappy versus lets say the vibrant , there is no ****ing hope and this rom is dead.
the last update fixed an install file wtf. so at this rate cyanogen will be rc in o id say next year. ill have a new phone by then. my money is on miui
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I agree, it is definitely still a beta build and as noted by Cyanogen... hasn't been put into the stable build section of their forums. I do look forward to a stable build. Perhaps the Dev's can address some of the weird issues that I mentioned above.
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Well you completely forgot to mention that, currently it cannot handle lots of video format, most importantly mkv and even if you find something like Rock Player, there's a lot of lag in it. You cannot charge the phone while its off (because it'll turn on as soon as you plug the charger in). Also, you might encounter a totally new problem which you may not have an idea about. If captivate is your spare phone then play with it else stay away for a while until a RC is released.
This is just my opinion from 3 days of experience on CM7.
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It was a total flop for me :/
It ran well when I first installed it, but started running "funny" (random crashing) after I installed gapps, then totally started crapping out after the 3/16 update.
I ended up ditching it for a 2.2 rom, mostly because I didn't feel I was gaining anything substantive and losing things I regularly use, like a feature rich camera app and divx playback support.
Been running for 3 days. 0 problems.
I've ran into a few bugs. External SD, booting when usb plugged in. Only charging to 95% (apparently a feature not a bug). At one point my signal shot down to searching, then it recovered and grabbed a signal. Not sure what caused that, but it was random.
I also cannot get it to mount to my PC. Kind of annoying, but if I need to transfer anything I just use dropbox.
I like it, and I think I'll keep with it. Even though it isn't 100%, I love gingerbread, and it's working for me.
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Well you completely forgot to mention that, currently it cannot handle lots of video format, most importantly mkv and even if you find something like Rock Player, there's a lot of lag in it. You cannot charge the phone while its off (because it'll turn on as soon as you plug the charger in). Also, you might encounter a totally new problem which you may not have an idea about. If captivate is your spare phone then play with it else stay away for a while until a RC is released.
This is just my opinion from 3 days of experience on CM7.
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I did forget that you cannot charge the phone while off and now that you mention it the extended power menu doesn't work either. It is fairly aggravating that Cyanogen updates the vibrant with "real" fixes other than this fixing little things but... All in all, it is still usable, just not stable or reliable.
Every time I try and warn someone that CM7 is not yet ready for primetime I get bashed for it, yet there seem to be plenty of people echoing my comments. Like I said in another thread, the people that are saying CM7 is stable and works great are either not using their device to its full potential or are willing to live without certain features. There is really no compelling reason to live with a ROM that has this many bugs or deficiencies when you consider how many really good ROMs there are available for our Cappys that have few, if any, issues. Yeah, they may not have Gingerbready theming or cutesy animations, but they just work. Andromeda 1.2 is one that comes to mind.
I am on it from I think last friday...Not a single problem...atleast how i use it...of course except battery life...which I am trying to solve...
Rock player worked well for me...I watched couple of movies when I was on road....never lagged just stopped couple of times....
great GPS...instant locks...i am amazed...But I also tried MIUI...and it is very very fast...and something different which I never experienced before...I think people should give it a try...ofcourse it has bugs too as it based on CM7...but they fixed camera bug and little stuff.....
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Every time I try and warn someone that CM7 is not yet ready for primetime I get bashed for it, yet there seem to be plenty of people echoing my comments. Like I said in another thread, the people that are saying CM7 is stable and works great are either not using their device to its full potential or are willing to live without certain features. There is really no compelling reason to live with a ROM that has this many bugs or deficiencies when you consider how many really good ROMs there are available for our Cappys that have few, if any, issues. Yeah, they may not have Gingerbready theming or cutesy animations, but they just work. Andromeda 1.2 is one that comes to mind.
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I am by no means saying that it is ready for the masses... The only one that I would suggest without a second thought to someone who isn't willing to deal with at least some problems is Cognition Series by DesignGears. To my knowledge (and opinion) this is the absolute best rom for the captivate. IF ... Cyanogen gets to the point of a Cognition rom in function and use, then I might suggest it for the masses but not until then.
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Every time I try and warn someone that CM7 is not yet ready for primetime I get bashed for it, yet there seem to be plenty of people echoing my comments. Like I said in another thread, the people that are saying CM7 is stable and works great are either not using their device to its full potential or are willing to live without certain features. There is really no compelling reason to live with a ROM that has this many bugs or deficiencies when you consider how many really good ROMs there are available for our Cappys that have few, if any, issues. Yeah, they may not have Gingerbready theming or cutesy animations, but they just work. Andromeda 1.2 is one that comes to mind.
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Your right in regard to it not being ready for most users (many are already praising the miui 2.3.3 also which is even less stable.....not saying it isn't promising). I think it breaks into 2 camps.
1. If you are a power user that wants all aspects of your device to function as intended...not for you. More specifically, If you use an external SD especially if your moving files to and from mounted to a PC....this is not the rom for you (this is my biggest gripe at this point). If you do lots of video in different formats...not for you as you will face compatibility issues. If you have to ask how your flash back to stock....this is probably not for you. If you value battery life as a top priority...not yet for you. Most of the other deficiencies or shortcomings had adequate work arounds but you until the major issues are resolved you will quickly find yourself flashing back to Phoenix, Firefly, Serendipity, Andromeda, etc.)
2. If you don't use and external SD and/or do much media vid/music then i can see why many view this as "stable" for their purposes. The UI, menus, and animations are smooth/fast and i never really had any issues with force closes while using it. Maybe its better linguistically to say its incomplete rather than refer to is as unstable and sorry if it offends the early adopters but if you are using it as your daily driver its pretty obvious you are using an inferior rom @ this point.
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I am by no means saying that it is ready for the masses... The only one that I would suggest without a second thought to someone who isn't willing to deal with at least some problems is Cognition Series by DesignGears. To my knowledge (and opinion) this is the absolute best rom for the captivate. IF ... Cyanogen gets to the point of a Cognition rom in function and use, then I might suggest it for the masses but not until then.
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i would easily put a handful of roms on par with cognition:
Firefly, Supernova, Phoenix, Serendipity, Andromeda.
bames said:
Your right in regard to it not being ready for most users (many are already praising the miui 2.3.3 also which is even less stable.....not saying it isn't promising). I think it breaks into 2 camps.
1. If you are a power user that wants all aspects of your device to function as intended...not for you. More specifically, If you use an external SD especially if your moving files to and from mounted to a PC....this is not the rom for you (this is my biggest gripe at this point). If you do lots of video in different formats...not for you as you will face compatibility issues. If you have to ask how your flash back to stock....this is probably not for you. If you value battery life as a top priority...not yet for you. Most of the other deficiencies or shortcomings had adequate work arounds but you until the major issues are resolved you will quickly find yourself flashing back to Phoenix, Firefly, Serendipity, Andromeda, etc.)
2. If you don't use and external SD and/or do much media vid/music then i can see why many view this as "stable" for their purposes. The UI, menus, and animations are smooth/fast and i never really had any issues with force closes while using it. Maybe its better linguistically to say its incomplete rather than refer to is as unstable and sorry if it offends the early adopters but if you are using it as your daily driver its pretty obvious you are using an inferior rom @ this point.
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Excellent post.
Glad to see users sharing their experience on CM7. This is always good foe the community. I hope to see new users to read this thread prior to making any decision whether to flash CM7 2.3.3 or not.
On another note, I'm sure once Samsung do final release of Gingerbread 2.3.3 for i9000 series (last I heard that an early beta was released), we cappyites will see stable release.
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Regarding the phone turning on when charging, I believe it's a gingerbread "feature". It's been said that it is working as intended. Also, the iphone does the same thing so I don't really see it as an issue. It's probably google seeing behavior they like and implementing it.
You can not mount the external sd but you can transfer to your internal then on the phone transfer to external, so I am not certain it Is fair to say you can not use your external sd. Video is an issue, and battery is as well.
At this point in time it is a trade off, there are several things cm7 can't do well or can not do at all. there are also several things it does much better than any 2.2 rom or are not available on 2.2 roms.
Its all preference and priorities. Kinda like any best rom discussion.
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Miami_Son said:
Every time I try and warn someone that CM7 is not yet ready for primetime I get bashed for it, yet there seem to be plenty of people echoing my comments. Like I said in another thread, the people that are saying CM7 is stable and works great are either not using their device to its full potential or are willing to live without certain features. There is really no compelling reason to live with a ROM that has this many bugs or deficiencies when you consider how many really good ROMs there are available for our Cappys that have few, if any, issues. Yeah, they may not have Gingerbready theming or cutesy animations, but they just work. Andromeda 1.2 is one that comes to mind.
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Largely it its because you have never used it, and have only tried one rom. That and you are compelled to jump on any thread that mentions it as if it is a personal mission. It its not as if you do not make some valid points, but it is not hard to see why it may rub some the wrong way after a while.
This is not an attempt to start something, but your comments make it seem like there is no warrant to people who go back at you.
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Largely it its because you have never used it, and have only tried one rom. That and you are compelled to jump on any thread that mentions it as if it is a personal mission. It its not as if you do not make some valid points, but it is not hard to see why it may rub some the wrong way after a while.
This is not an attempt to start something, but your comments make it seem like there is no warrant to people who go back at you.
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Agreed... I was not trying to start a thread to bash any rom. However I do know that there are some hard feelings that are out based on certain features that work or don't and peoples impressions about the ROM itself. I also know that there is quite a bit of loyalty to certain ROM creators that no matter what they aren't going to be going to a new ROM simply because they are loyal to that dev... which is fine! I simply wanted to create an avenue for people who have used the ROM to pass along information and opinions on the ROM to people who are thinking about switching to it. People are entitled to their opinions and I am all for that... Just don't bash any of the devs or their work, it is not easy putting this stuff together and I for one am happy that I have a place I can go to that allows me to get away from stock. I hope that all will realize that
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Largely it its because you have never used it, and have only tried one rom. That and you are compelled to jump on any thread that mentions it as if it is a personal mission. It its not as if you do not make some valid points, but it is not hard to see why it may rub some the wrong way after a while.
This is not an attempt to start something, but your comments make it seem like there is no warrant to people who go back at you.
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Excellent post.
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The terminology might be better as incomplete instead of unstable. great post.
HellFire Sandwich v 1.2 vs EaglesBlood™ICS 4.0.3
what the best ICS room for G2X ?
tnx
No one can really tell you which is best, as it's all relative. They are both good so try them both out and decide what works best for you. I, personally, don't like these "which one is best" threads as it can be demeaning to the devs. They all work hard and they all deserve equal respect. You can't possibly know which one you like better unless you try them both/all
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No one can really tell you which is best, as it's all relative. They are both good so try them both out and decide what works best for you. I, personally, don't like these "which one is best" threads as it can be demeaning to the devs. They all work hard and they all deserve equal respect. You can't possibly know which one you like better unless you try them both/all
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+1 to this... also each rom acts differently on each phone... so try them both and see for yourself
Both of them need more improvements in order to become stable ROMs.
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Both of them need more improvements in order to become stable ROMs.
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Ive have ran HFS 1.2 for 5 days now with no issues and not any FC's other then the HWA issues... bat is great and its a great alpha build for a 'daily driver' even tho its not branded as such, yet...
HellFire ICS 4.0.3
BIG THANKS to everyone who is involved from the USB drivers to the ROOTers to the ROM kings.
Downloaded this ROM and after several hours for the FIRST TIME EVER, rooted my G2X, installed CWM, installed this ROM and the GAPPS. Sweet, no I feel so much LESS amateurish.
First BOOT didn't take as long as I thought it would. SHUTDOWN and STARTUP (POWER-UP) are WAY faster than they were on 2.3.3.
Below are OBSERVATIONS not complaints:
I am not a developer, just a user. The interface is really cool (for lack of more technical terms). Video playback is REALLY CHOPPY when it was smooth on 2.3.3. and many of the videos won't even play. The other DOWNSIDE is my BATTERY is DEAD as HELL, been charging for 2 hours already and still only at 80%, with 2.3.3 the battery (which is extended life) would last for a day and a half.
I am in the process of downloading the EAGLES BLOOD version to make my own comparisons. From what I am reading both these ROMs need work BUT I don't know anything about that.
WHAT IS REALLY COOL is that LG doesn't even have ICS in the pipe for G2X yet and now it's on my phone - SWEET.
I so look forward to future updates and ROMs to keep us less talented in the GAME. Thanks again, Mark
AND Now I have SuperUser rights - don't know what that means yet either but I will try to learn!
RhynoNJ said:
BIG THANKS to everyone who is involved from the USB drivers to the ROOTers to the ROM kings.
Downloaded this ROM and after several hours for the FIRST TIME EVER, rooted my G2X, installed CWM, installed this ROM and the GAPPS. Sweet, no I feel so much LESS amateurish.
First BOOT didn't take as long as I thought it would. SHUTDOWN and STARTUP (POWER-UP) are WAY faster than they were on 2.3.3.
Below are OBSERVATIONS not complaints:
I am not a developer, just a user. The interface is really cool (for lack of more technical terms). Video playback is REALLY CHOPPY when it was smooth on 2.3.3. and many of the videos won't even play. The other DOWNSIDE is my BATTERY is DEAD as HELL, been charging for 2 hours already and still only at 80%, with 2.3.3 the battery (which is extended life) would last for a day and a half.
I am in the process of downloading the EAGLES BLOOD version to make my own comparisons. From what I am reading both these ROMs need work BUT I don't know anything about that.
WHAT IS REALLY COOL is that LG doesn't even have ICS in the pipe for G2X yet and now it's on my phone - SWEET.
I so look forward to future updates and ROMs to keep us less talented in the GAME. Thanks again, Mark
AND Now I have SuperUser rights - don't know what that means yet either but I will try to learn!
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You'll find them to be pretty similar. Video playback is a known issue for all ICS roms and will likely persist as an issue for a long time (quite possibly until we have a release/source from T-Mobile/LG). Also, you'll notice that some apps don't work too well yet (basically same issue as video playback).
Outside of that, the share the same source, but HFS v1.2 was build more recently, and therefor has the newest commits from Arcee. This includes things like setting data limits and switching storage between internal and external SD. Hell also baked in a facebook sync patch that may or may not be working for people (I haven't tried it, but heard some people had problems).
Further outside of that, each developer has added their own style to the rom. I believe, however, that Eaglesblood isn't due to get the majority of the customization that the other EB roms enjoy until the next release.
Hope that helps.
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HellFire Sandwich v 1.2 vs EaglesBlood™ICS 4.0.3
what the best ICS room for G2X ?
tnx
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Right now none of the ICS ROMs are finished, so just use a GB ROM if you're new to flashing.
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+1 to this... also each rom acts differently on each phone... so try them both and see for yourself
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Agreed!
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hellfire sandwich 1.2
I've been using it for a few days and seems very stable no FC yet but I would a reboot at least once a day.
I've been debating on which ICS rom to go with (still on CM7 now)
Probably go with Hellfire because they are on the cusp of a new release, and it's apparently very good.
Luvin the EB ICS
Been using the eb ics for two days now. It doesn't seem to consume as much battery as my previous rom (GB Weapon G2x) and that was a really good rom. Had to change to ics because i seemed to be having reboot issues and I longed for ics.
So far been having a few force closes but am still breaking it in. Seem to be having battery calibration problems as well, but i will give it time. I would say try them all. Max respect to the devs.
I had EB and the 'Music' kept stopping. I installed HF and have not had 1 error.
Well first off, ICS ROMs for this phone are not finished yet and will give you many stability issues and compatibility issues. That being said, you won't know which one you like more unless you try out both of them for yourself.
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I've been using it for a few days and seems very stable no FC yet but I would a reboot at least once a day.
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You can't even use your camera, and there is no media acceleration.
So, no, it is not at all stable.
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Outside of that, the share the same source, but HFS v1.2 was build more recently, and therefor has the newest commits from Arcee. This includes things like setting data limits and switching storage between internal and external SD. Hell also baked in a facebook sync patch that may or may not be working for people (I haven't tried it, but heard some people had problems).
Further outside of that, each developer has added their own style to the rom. I believe, however, that Eaglesblood isn't due to get the majority of the customization that the other EB roms enjoy until the next release.
Hope that helps.
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I was using Hellfire Sandwich v1.2 which has the facebook patch. The facebook patch works great. I had no problem with facebook. I loved it but where I work I don't get good cell reception and wifi calling doesn't work all the time.
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You can't even use your camera, and there is no media acceleration.
So, no, it is not at all stable.
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I used HFS v1.2 for 2-3 weeks and the camera works perfectly fine. No problems with the camera FC. It will only force close if you try to take video with it. Hardware acceleration is also fixed for v1.2. HFS v1.2 was perfectly stable except for the FC on video and random drop outs on wifi calling.
Imagine if LG released the drivers... ICS would be working perfectly :/
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Been using Hellfire Sandwich since release. Here is my run down of what I see.
-Speed is good.
-Memory management works well but will cause FC because of more running processes then allowed.
-Paired with setCPU profiles I get insane battery life.Better then GB.
-Browser issues with flickering when rotating between portrait and landscape. Dolphin will FC as well.
-Bluetooth will drop out sometimes. Unsure if this is the phone or my headset.
-Browser does have video playback issue. YouTube and Netflix app works fine.
-No Widgets? Or I'm doing it wrong.
-No issues with any of my usual apps.
All I can think of at the moment. I use my phone casually for games and browsing.
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Been using Hellfire Sandwich since release. Here is my run down of what I see.
-Speed is good.
-Memory management works well but will cause FC because of more running processes then allowed.
-Paired with setCPU profiles I get insane battery life.Better then GB.
-Browser issues with flickering when rotating between portrait and landscape. Dolphin will FC as well.
-Bluetooth will drop out sometimes. Unsure if this is the phone or my headset.
-Browser does have video playback issue. YouTube and Netflix app works fine.
-No Widgets? Or I'm doing it wrong.
-No issues with any of my usual apps.
All I can think of at the moment. I use my phone casually for games and browsing.
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no widgets? you should always be able to use widgets. But remember with ICS you have to get widgets by scrolling to the right in the apps drawer. I can't get netflix to work..dunno how you got that..the sound works but not the video. youtube works fine.
My Review
As a normal user I can say Hellfire ICS is much better then EB's. In the aspect of
Speed is way better.
Less Laggs while opening apps
Faster browsing then EB's
Stucking issue is less in Hellfire
In short Hellfire's ICS :good: is faster then EagleBlood's as per me... (a normal user not a dev)
Okay, maybe someone will know the answer to this.
Every single ICS rom I've tried... and I'm pretty sure that's all of them... has had abysmal performance playing flash video through a browser. I'm talking from
jt's original ICS... to
Entropy's ICS...to
uniporn
jblparisi's
remixICS
etc. etc.
Now, just to be clear... all of those ROMs that I mentioned I thoroughly enjoy... they had/have a lot of work put into them, and I thank the devs.
But this puzzles me... I had perfect flash video playback on a number of GB roms... notably AEON... now we move to ICS... and it's incapable of doing the same thing?
Also, whatever the problem is, it is some kind of common thread that runs through every ICS release for the infuse. I've tested. There is no example of this problem not being present.
Anyone have information, or a solution, or have noticed this problem themselves?
Thanks
I do agree with your statement.
I think this is due to the Wi-Fi and data speeds. Unlike GB ROMs, build.prop has not yet been extensively looked at in ICS ROMs. Network speed drops can be expected going from GB to ICS.
Again, this is just my opinion. Do not take my word for it.
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You have a good point there, build.prop was not something that had occurred to me.
The only thing that makes me suspicious of that particular theory is...surely all the ICS roms can't have the same build.prop settings, right? So if it was coming from there, I guess I'd be expecting to see some roms performing better or worse than others... and yet when it comes to flash video, they are pretty consistently bad, with little variation.
Thanks for the idea though, I hope that you're right and that this is just something that can be fixed by build.prop rewrites.
You do have adobe flash player installed right? Unlike gingerbread roms I don't know of an ics Rom that comes with flash player installed...when I had the infuse as soon as I installed flash player I never had a problem with flash videos...also I never had a problem with slower network speeds...
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mg2195 said:
You do have adobe flash player installed right? Unlike gingerbread roms I don't know of an ics Rom that comes with flash player installed...when I had the infuse as soon as I installed flash player I never had a problem with flash videos...also I never had a problem with slower network speeds...
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Hehehe yeah I'm not that much of a fool =P
I tested everything I'm talking about with flash player installed. ICS can't deal with the video, it sticks and sputters like a broken faucet... super choppy, stops and starts... etc.
I can't testify 100% but I'm pretty sure that my data speeds on ICS are reduced as compared to GB roms.
With Wi-Fi, however, I think the speeds are comparable.
If this was happening on a PC, I could fix it. My first thought would be video driver issues, so I would remove all traces and then install the newest version.
Unfortunately, it's not that simple on Android...
I've read tons of discussions with Entropy and others talking about the video libs, and I remember that while the idea of "perfect smooth video" sounds like something that should be easy/simple to accomplish... it's actually a pretty deep rabbit hole. It seemed to me it's a fairly complex problem that draws on a lot of areas and takes a lot of work to get right.
I just wonder what this could be... what did GB have that ICS doesn't?
thanks for the reply, mg =)
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Hehehe yeah I'm not that much of a fool =P
I tested everything I'm talking about with flash player installed. ICS can't deal with the video, it sticks and sputters like a broken faucet... super choppy, stops and starts... etc.
I can't testify 100% but I'm pretty sure that my data speeds on ICS are reduced as compared to GB roms.
With Wi-Fi, however, I think the speeds are comparable.
If this was happening on a PC, I could fix it. My first thought would be video driver issues, so I would remove all traces and then install the newest version.
Unfortunately, it's not that simple on Android...
I've read tons of discussions with Entropy and others talking about the video libs, and I remember that while the idea of "perfect smooth video" sounds like something that should be easy/simple to accomplish... it's actually a pretty deep rabbit hole. It seemed to me it's a fairly complex problem that draws on a lot of areas and takes a lot of work to get right.
I just wonder what this could be... what did GB have that ICS doesn't?
thanks for the reply, mg =)
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Well...ics is aosp/aokp...so it is highly likely it could be missing some video libs and what not...off the top of ky head I know for a fact that gb has TWframeworks as well as many different libs...I have no infuse to test the choppy video so when I say i never expiernced it that is just based off my memory...basically what in getting at is that your theory is possible
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Thanks! yeah, I'm no android expert, I'm just going by what makes sense to me.
Assuming just for a second that video libs were in fact the issue...I have a couple questions.
Is there anyone who would know how to identify the specific source of the problem?
Is there any more information I could somehow get/provide that might help?
Or is this just the kind of issue where... ICS is pretty new still, and in time it will probably be fixed? (wait & see)
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Thanks! yeah, I'm no android expert, I'm just going by what makes sense to me.
Assuming just for a second that video libs were in fact the issue...I have a couple questions.
Is there anyone who would know how to identify the specific source of the problem?
Is there any more information I could somehow get/provide that might help?
Or is this just the kind of issue where... ICS is pretty new still, and in time it will probably be fixed? (wait & see)
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Well logcats always help...those say exactly what your phone is doing and provide all errors your phone is receiving...from what I've seen, pony (the guy providing logcats for the miui build) is good with logcats...but he's busy with miui. I'm not even sure if you would find anything useful in the logcat anyway since it is somewhat working...I'm sure it will be fixed in time though
So if you know how to logcat then get one and see what it says...if not than just wait, I'm sure someone will end up working on a fix
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With the recent lag fixes, superchargers and browser fix, and youtube work arounds, no more data drops, phone calls actually working, aside from video recording i don't really see any more big bugs associated with ICS Roms. I have decided to try out an ICS ROM. I looked through the forums about the best ICS Roms and see those two as the consistent winners, so it would be great if someone could give me to choose one over the other.
P.S. Also, the first sentence is just my assumption that there are no more major issues with those roms, but if there are any more big issues like gps not working or maybe some of the fixes I mentioned above aren't included in all current ICS roms it would be appreciated if someone pointed that out. Thanks
Paranoid +1
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I usually always use Domination, although I have a soft spot in my heart for HFS since it was my first ICS ROM. Currently using the new version of Genesis and actually don't have any plans to try out Paranoid.
You're going to have to do what we all do and just try the ROMs yourself. Plus, it's fun switching ROMs every once in a while!
I've tried them all, and I always come back to Genesis. IMO, it's the most customizable, and the newest Stable build runs great.
But, try them all out. Don't take anybody's word on which is best, they all have pros and cons. You just have to figure out which one fits you the best
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I've tried them all, and I always come back to Genesis. IMO, it's the most customizable, and the newest Stable build runs great.
But, try them all out. Don't take anybody's word on which is best, they all have pros and cons. You just have to figure out which one fits you the best
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I am trying paranoidandroid right now and I am waiting for Tony, I think it is, to get the data fix from the EB team because the data drops are kinda annoying. However, everything else works fine, except it can be a bit laggy sometimes but that of course is because of the lack of hardware acceleration.
Just wondering why android 4.0 (ICS) had these notable bugs as a major release? like VPN connection issues, text corruption (jumbles up and looks like hieroglyphics) and maybe more (add any you know and I'll update this post)
I mean what did they do on Google before releasing a milestone android version?
P.s: I remember one of the most significant features announced at the press event on October 2011 in Hong Kong was 'unlock by face recognition'. But where is it now? I couldn't find it on any ICS AOSP ROM or Jelly Bean ROM installed on my phone. Was it only for galaxy nexus was shown at the Honh Kong event?
I have that feature on my EVO 3d
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P.s: I remember one of the most significant features announced at the press event on October 2011 in Hong Kong was 'unlock by face recognition'. But where is it now? I couldn't find it on any ICS AOSP ROM or Jelly Bean ROM installed on my phone. Was it only for galaxy nexus was shown at the Honh Kong event?
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It could be faked by a photo and also it didn't work well for older devices where the front camera had a low resolution, hence most rom's removed it.
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It could be faked by a photo and also it didn't work well for older devices where the front camera had a low resolution, hence most rom's removed it.
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Does Google keep it on Jelly Bean yet? Or Google removed it on later ICS updates too itself?
All my devices which have been 5 have all been on Ice Cream Sandwich and I had no problems whatsoever by far the best version of Android before jelly bean I have facial recognition on all of them if it was removed it was because the custom ROM that you were on remove it it's a standard feature and Ice Cream Sandwich.
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@jchavez1993, @pezlomd
Thanks for sharing, Buddies
Jelly bean actually enhanced the face recognition feature. You have to blink to unlock the phone. Obviously you can't do that with a picture of your face.
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I suppose Face unlock has still to evolve a lot, i mean there could be numerous scenarios / lightning conditions etc. But like NIMBAH mentioned blink to unlock is a good addition
Never had problems in lighting
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Just wondering why android 4.0 (ICS) had these notable bugs as a major release? like VPN connection issues, text corruption (jumbles up and looks like hieroglyphics) and maybe more (add any you know and I'll update this post)
I mean what did they do on Google before releasing a milestone android version?
P.s: I remember one of the most significant features announced at the press event on October 2011 in Hong Kong was 'unlock by face recognition'. But where is it now? I couldn't find it on any ICS AOSP ROM or Jelly Bean ROM installed on my phone. Was it only for galaxy nexus was shown at the Honh Kong event?
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Depends on what your phone is. Face recognition requries front camera mate.
Anyway, I believe the 4.x series is a massive success. It solves the defragmental issue, improves UI in terms of look and feels and smoothness significantly, while maintains Android's strength of openess and growth.
The VPN thing is minor, and it is ignorant to consider this as a Android's fiasco. Meanwhile, text corruption is caused by your phone's kernel, hence you can't blame it on Google. I sense that you use some legacy phone like Galaxy Y and have bad impression on ICS.
In my opinion Android 4.0 was the best move Google has made yet. Jellybean is nice and all, but ICS made the big changes. Fully HWA ui, deeper account integration with most services and just beautiful to work with. Android has never been this tweakable before. As far as bugs are concerned, I've never encountered any of the problems the OP names.
ICS is beautiful for me.
I'd compare it to Windows 7 whereas Gingerbread was like Vista to me.
Anyways, the launch of ICS really shows the true versatility and strength of Android. It's smoother, easier to use, and more minimalistic than any other version of Android out there. As for the facial recognition feature, it works perfectly fine on CM10 for me. I've used it on CM9 as well.
VPN is definitely an issue, but seeing as I don't use it, it didn't matter to me.
ICS isn't always perfectly functioning on older devices though. So i'd assume that you're running an older device with legacy hardware that just doesn't function properly with ICS (probably an issue porting code and software to the device). I remember trying ICS on my Dad's G2x and it was a nightmare! So I can understand where you're coming from.
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Depends on what your phone is. Face recognition requries front camera mate.
Anyway, I believe the 4.x series is a massive success. It solves the defragmental issue, improves UI in terms of look and feels and smoothness significantly, while maintains Android's strength of openess and growth.
The VPN thing is minor, and it is ignorant to consider this as a Android's fiasco. Meanwhile, text corruption is caused by your phone's kernel, hence you can't blame it on Google. I sense that you use some legacy phone like Galaxy Y and have bad impression on ICS.
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Thanks,
About text corruption I tried different ICS ROMs such AOSPX, IceColdSandwich ... And Of course my phone is Desire HD. What about that?
khoikn said:
ICS is beautiful for me.
I'd compare it to Windows 7 whereas Gingerbread was like Vista to me.
Anyways, the launch of ICS really shows the true versatility and strength of Android. It's smoother, easier to use, and more minimalistic than any other version of Android out there. As for the facial recognition feature, it works perfectly fine on CM10 for me. I've used it on CM9 as well.
VPN is definitely an issue, but seeing as I don't use it, it didn't matter to me.
ICS isn't always perfectly functioning on older devices though. So i'd assume that you're running an older device with legacy hardware that just doesn't function properly with ICS (probably an issue porting code and software to the device). I remember trying ICS on my Dad's G2x and it was a nightmare! So I can understand where you're coming from.
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Dammit why can't I just remember those days I was on gingerbread (2.3) and its functionality to compare with ICS as a big Change? Should I flash a 2.3 version again and stay 1week or more on it? Is it the only remained way to realize smoothness improvements?
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Thanks,
About text corruption I tried different ICS ROMs such AOSPX, IceColdSandwich ... And Of course my phone is Desire HD. What about that?
Dammit why can't I just remember those days I was on gingerbread (2.3) and its functionality to compare with ICS as a big Change? Should I flash a 2.3 version again and stay 1week or more on it? Is it the only remained way to realize smoothness improvements?
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Your main issue was that fact you were using a ported version of the OS with hacked up drivers and files. There will always be issues when you use these types of OS distros. I also used the same device as you but recently switched and let me tell you the desire HD doesn't do it justice. The devs do great work but there is only so much they can do without the proper files.
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That's true zelendel, but as far as I know text corruption was as AOSP issue that was present in stock ICS on the Galaxy Nexus too. Haven't seen it since JellyBean so I think it has been fixed in AOSP. Also, development for the DHD has come a long way since you left especially since the release of 3.0.xx kernel by Virtuous Team. The forum has really come back to life. The codefireX 4.2.1 ROM and its 3.0.xx KangBang kernel are pretty awesome, and the phone has never performed better.
Source -
http://code.google.com/p/aospx/issues/detail?id=23
http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=25393
Ics was great but too laggy on me! GB was much smoother than ics. So I switched to JB with cm10. Best from google yet! ( my opinion!)
zelendel said:
Your main issue was that fact you were using a ported version of the OS with hacked up drivers and files. There will always be issues when you use these types of OS distros. I also used the same device as you but recently switched and let me tell you the desire HD doesn't do it justice. The devs do great work but there is only so much they can do without the proper files.
Batcom2
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Oh I actually forgot about hacked Drivers and their impact on ported ROMs' functionality. Thanks
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That's true zelendel, but as far as I know text corruption was as AOSP issue that was present in stock ICS on the Galaxy Nexus too. Haven't seen it since JellyBean so I think it has been fixed in AOSP. Also, development for the DHD has come a long way since you left especially since the release of 3.0.xx kernel by Virtuous Team. The forum has really come back to life. The codefireX 4.2.1 ROM and its 3.0.xx KangBang kernel are pretty awesome, and the phone has never performed better.
Source -
http://code.google.com/p/aospx/issues/detail?id=23
http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=25393
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It was interesting about text corruption.
I'm not an expert in Kernels so didn't get your point actually.
Thanks