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Samsung posted this updated installation guide on their website this morning. IMHO if it's going to happen in December it's going to be this week. http://www.samsung.com/us/support/owners/product/SGH-I897
http://downloadcenter.samsung.com/c...2349485/ATT_I897_Captivate_Kiesmini_Guide.pdf
I think they just added the instructions for recovery mode. Seeing as how "Some of" the Canadian Vibrants are reporting corrupt storage issues after trying to upgrade via kies mini.
With all of the gingerbread action in the past week, I don't know why anyone would even bat an eye at an official froyo release. If you aren't running a 2.2 rom based on the leaked versions yet, you are severely limiting the speed and "snappiness" of your device. In short, while you guys wait for Sammy to roll out their "official" 2.2 update, we'll be running GB.
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I think they just added the instructions for recovery mode. Seeing as how "Some of" the Canadian Vibrants are reporting corrupt storage issues after trying to upgrade via kies mini.
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Good point, but isn't that the U.S. site?
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With all of the gingerbread action in the past week, I don't know why anyone would even bat an eye at an official froyo release. If you aren't running a 2.2 rom based on the leaked versions yet, you are severely limiting the speed and "snappiness" of your device. In short, while you guys wait for Sammy to roll out their "official" 2.2 update, we'll be running GB.
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There are plenty of reasons as discussed in these forums. For me I heavily use my phone for business and cannot afford any "hiccups".
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With all of the gingerbread action in the past week, I don't know why anyone would even bat an eye at an official froyo release. If you aren't running a 2.2 rom based on the leaked versions yet, you are severely limiting the speed and "snappiness" of your device. In short, while you guys wait for Sammy to roll out their "official" 2.2 update, we'll be running GB.
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JH7 w/ Voodoo is faster than any ROM based on a leaked Froyo build (from my experiences). I haven't tried the i9000 based ROMs however.
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There are plenty of reasons as discussed in these forums. For me I heavily use my phone for business and cannot afford any "hiccups".
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I too use my phone for work. And I also cannot have any "hiccups". I can be without it long enough to flash a ROM and then re-setup the stuff I need. That process takes less than 30 minutes nowadays.
If you stick to a true Cappy ROM (not an i9000-based one), then you won't experience hiccups...at least I don't. Battery life is a slight issue, but really, when are completely without the means to charge up some?
I've flashed maybe half a dozen times since I can't afford a bricked phone. I'm picky about flashing. But I'm also very picky about having a phone that is quite impressive hardware-wise, but almost completely crippled by the lackluster software. While Froyo isn't the most awesome thing ever, it is a major improvement over Eclair.
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I too use my phone for work. And I also cannot have any "hiccups". I can be without it long enough to flash a ROM and then re-setup the stuff I need. That process takes less than 30 minutes nowadays.
If you stick to a true Cappy ROM (not an i9000-based one), then you won't experience hiccups...at least I don't. Battery life is a slight issue, but really, when are completely without the means to charge up some?
I've flashed maybe half a dozen times since I can't afford a bricked phone. I'm picky about flashing. But I'm also very picky about having a phone that is quite impressive hardware-wise, but almost completely crippled by the lackluster software. While Froyo isn't the most awesome thing ever, it is a major improvement over Eclair.
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I used to flash quite often.. But it got to be a hassle restoring game saves... Contacts (then re-linking then to my Facebook contacts)... yada yada... It takes up more tme than one would think.
And like its been said. A stable release from Samsung means a stable release for the devs.
Though Im not gonna think twice about flashing 2.3... Can't wait for a working version.
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Good point, but isn't that the U.S. site?
There are plenty of reasons as discussed in these forums. For me I heavily use my phone for business and cannot afford any "hiccups".
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thats understandable but i would say in my experience there are less hiccups with most custom 2.2 roms than there are with either stock 2.1 rom.
Not to mention on the business front Exchange is much more stable and functional for me on the 2.2 roms vs. 2.1 stock.
Axura, Assonance, Chronos all very stable.
I thought the hold up was the carriers on the update. But I think Samsung has been really slow in the release of 2.2. Samsung not AT&T has been the problem all along. Don't you think one of the carriers would have tried to be the first to have their device on 2.2 to sale through the holidays.
more speculation here, but I suspect there has been some back and forth between samsung and att. Like att put it through their testing procees. (we know it is pretty extensive) and asked for a change or two. 'caus I'm pretty convinced that samsung just checks that the phone powers up and gets signal with no care as to the quality of signals it is receiving... I am certainly intrigued to see what they come out with after "working" on it for so long.
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I thought the hold up was the carriers on the update. But I think Samsung has been really slow in the release of 2.2. Samsung not AT&T has been the problem all along. Don't you think one of the carriers would have tried to be the first to have their device on 2.2 to sale through the holidays.
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The carriers don't care that much... OS version as a selling point matters ZERO to most users unless it brings some major feature. Most feature improvements are minor and don't affect most users - they are not hackers or flashers. For every one person visiting phone Forums, there are 10 others that own the phone and just use it.
2.2 has been out for Galaxy S and Armani - so it is really done for the hardware - we haven't seen any Froyo leaks in a while either - the hold up is the carriers - Samsung was probably late getting it to them, and now they have to give it their blessing.
The Vibrant Froyo was released recently but pulled as it corrupted internal storage. So T-Mo was first, and i guess AT&T will be second.
I also think this updated doc is relevant to the Froyo release - we didn't see this doc with the previous Kies Mini update and there was no Emergency recovery option - they are definitely getting ready to push something new.
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I thought the hold up was the carriers on the update. But I think Samsung has been really slow in the release of 2.2. Samsung not AT&T has been the problem all along. Don't you think one of the carriers would have tried to be the first to have their device on 2.2 to sale through the holidays.
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No...certainly not AT&T...they always push the I-phone harder than their Android phones...Can't say for any others selling Galaxy phones though..
Seriously...I use my phone for my work and business as well,and there are quite a few stable 2.2 roms out to use.Hiccups...are always possible...but most times..it's because of a bad install that causes more headaches than anything else..or something left over on the system too. No way in hell would I wait on either Samsung or AT&T for another bloat filled update.Not to mention...all of the bricked phones that happened with Kies last time around...Your much safer getting your upgrade longing filled here..than any OTA update....at least if you get it from here you will get help fixing it...Good luck doing that with AT&T or Samsung...you'll be out a phone for a few days or weeks..
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alphadog00 said:
The carriers don't care that much... OS version as a selling point matters ZERO to most users unless it brings some major feature. Most feature improvements are minor and don't affect most users - they are not hackers or flashers. For every one person visiting phone Forums, there are 10 others that own the phone and just use it.
2.2 has been out for Galaxy S and Armani - so it is really done for the hardware - we haven't seen any Froyo leaks in a while either - the hold up is the carriers - Samsung was probably late getting it to them, and now they have to give it their blessing.
The Vibrant Froyo was released recently but pulled as it corrupted internal storage. So T-Mo was first, and i guess AT&T will be second.
I also think this updated doc is relevant to the Froyo release - we didn't see this doc with the previous Kies Mini update and there was no Emergency recovery option - they are definitely getting ready to push something new.
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Froyo was not released then pulled for the T-Mobile Vibrant. It was released and pulled for the Bell (Canada) Vibrant.
Thought that Sprint's Epic has Froyo released? Or is that just another leak too? Forgot to ask my brother last night (he has the Epic)
None of the US carriers has Froyo update for Galaxy S yet. That tells me it is Samsung that is dragging the feet.
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None of the US carriers has Froyo update for Galaxy S yet. That tells me it is Samsung that is dragging the feet.
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Even if samsung pushed the update to the carriers 2 weeks ago they still have to test it.
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Even if samsung pushed the update to the carriers 2 weeks ago they still have to test it.
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Samsung knows exactly how long carriers need to validate and test the firmware. If they intent to release the Froyo on schedule, they should have pushed the update earlier. After all, carriers test updates from all manufacturers like Motorola and HTC, not just Samsung. If Motorola and HTC can release Froyo, and subsequent patches, in time for their phones, there is no reason Samsung can't if it is capable of.
This just tells you how somethings never change when it comes to firmware update from Samsung.
Then why does AT&T have the Samsung Galaxy Tab available with Android 2.2?
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Then why does AT&T have the Samsung Galaxy Tab available with Android 2.2?
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Because the tab was released with 2.2. It never had to get updated.
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Then why does AT&T have the Samsung Galaxy Tab available with Android 2.2?
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I think you may have answered your own question. It's likely that Samsung put their development resources in the Galaxy Tab and let the phones wait. They already have our money.
So uhh, i dont know if anyone has seen this.. but here you go
http://androidcommunity.com/galaxy-s-android-2-3-gingerbread-update-imminent-20110225/
It looks like a legit release for 2.3 for Galaxy S. If thats the case, how hard would it be to port it from that to the captivate?
and a march release
Oh and btw... dont flame me if its wrong or anything.. im just a guy posting something he found... which may help out the community -.-
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So uhh, i dont know if anyone has seen this.. but here you go
http://androidcommunity.com/galaxy-s-android-2-3-gingerbread-update-imminent-20110225/
It looks like a legit release for 2.3 for Galaxy S. If thats the case, how hard would it be to port it from that to the captivate?
and a march release
Oh and btw... dont flame me if its wrong or anything.. im just a guy posting something he found... which may help out the community -.-
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I think this has been posted a couple of times (can't remember, but I know I've seen it around the web a couple of times). Either way, right now it's a "friend of a friend said this" type thing. Until there is some proof myself and many others will remain skeptical.
Another issue is that the Galaxy S phones are much more popular in other parts of the world. With Samsung trying to charge all the carriers upgrade fees like they did with 2.2, causing a lot of the delays, the carriers may not be interested in upgrading the phone to 2.3 even if Samsung has it ready. Especially since we're going to see the SGS 2 and multiple other newer and better phones out by then. The Captivate and other SGS phones will be low end phones by then, and the carriers probably won't want to pay Samsung for updates to an old phone.
oh man! so theres the possibility of never seeing a legit 2.3? :S i guess il have to live with CM7.
ANY custom rom will be better than the rom its based off of.
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AJerman said:
Another issue is that the Galaxy S phones are much more popular in other parts of the world. With Samsung trying to charge all the carriers upgrade fees like they did with 2.2, causing a lot of the delays, the carriers may not be interested in upgrading the phone to 2.3 even if Samsung has it ready. Especially since we're going to see the SGS 2 and multiple other newer and better phones out by then. The Captivate and other SGS phones will be low end phones by then, and the carriers probably won't want to pay Samsung for updates to an old phone.
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This "issue" was debunked a long time ago.
Miami_Son said:
This "issue" was debunked a long time ago.
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Was it? I hadn't heard that, but I didn't pay that much attention to the AT&T release of 2.2 since I've been running 2.2 for months.
Either way, even if it doesn't come to a money issue, it's still going to come down to the same issue. The SGS 2 will have replaced the SGS by the time Samsung would have Gingerbread ready, and I wouldn't doubt at all if this phone never saw another update. It was hard enough to get 2.2 out of Samsung when this phone was their flagship, let along getting them to push one more update when it's replacement is already ready.
Edit: Just read an article about that, you're right. I hadn't seen Samsung's reply to that rumor. I guess that just makes Samsung lazy and not lazy and greedy, haha.
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This "issue" was debunked a long time ago.
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It was debunked by Samsung denying it, which means it wasnt really debunked.
I wouldn't expect them to be public about such things....you can have a "price to prioritize" or something which is essentially the same thing but allows you to say you aren't charging for the upgrade.
I'm not saying I know what's going on, I'm just saying I don't trust Samsung at their word.
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I guess that just makes Samsung lazy and not lazy and greedy, haha.[/i]
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Why do you assume it was samsung that held back the update? It was more than likely ATT, being that other providers had already released the update.
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It was debunked by Samsung denying it, which means it wasnt really debunked.
I wouldn't expect them to be public about such things....you can have a "price to prioritize" or something which is essentially the same thing but allows you to say you aren't charging for the upgrade.
I'm not saying I know what's going on, I'm just saying I don't trust Samsung at their word.
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Pretty sure there would be some sort of outcry from carriers if Samsung was lying. There would probably be more legal ramifications if Samsung lied about not charging for updates rather than some bad publicity about charging for the updates.
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Why do you assume it was samsung that held back the update? It was more than likely ATT, being that other providers had already released the update.
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Samsung did its part in holding up the update by not wanting to pay the fee the service providers were charging. Same goes with all carriers that were way behind on the 2.2 update.
I'll be skipping it. I had problems with the 2.2 update and just flashed my first ROM. So much faster and the battery lasts a ton longer
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ANY custom rom will be better than the rom its based off of.
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You're stating the obvious. Why would anyone modify a ROM to make to inferior to the original? It would be nice if there were an original 2.3 to base something on.
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You're stating the obvious. Why would anyone modify a ROM to make to inferior to the original? It would be nice if there were an original 2.3 to base something on.
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he means custom source-built rom.
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he means custom source-built rom.
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No what he is doing is his usual routine of taking a dump on any post where someone mentions being interested in Samsung firmware releases, because he thinks what is already out via third-parties is all anyone with a brain should want. And yet the AT&T Froyo release resulted in, in my opinion, the best ROM yet from DesignGears.
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No what he is doing is his usual routine of taking a dump on any post where someone mentions being interested in Samsung firmware releases, because he thinks what is already out via third-parties is all anyone with a brain should want. And yet the AT&T Froyo release resulted in, in my opinion, the best ROM yet from DesignGears.
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you obviously haven't tried any 2.2.1 i9000 roms then... Because they blow the doors off any official froyo rom from samsuck. I tried cog 4 and torch and it lagged beyond belief, no offense to dg, but its samsucks fault.
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you obviously haven't tried any 2.2.1 i9000 roms then... Because they blow the doors off any official froyo rom from samsuck. I tried cog 4 and torch and it lagged beyond belief, no offense to dg, but its samsucks fault.
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I was running the official Rogers 2.2. and it was better than the official 2.1 that I played around with for a few days first to compare. However, putting Firefly 2.3 (and Andromeda 1.2 before that) I can certainly confirm that the custom rom route is definitely the way to go. MUCH faster (lagfix probably has huge impact on this) far more functional (rooted) better battery consumption (custom kernels) and IMO far better support. I can tell you I fully expect that XDA and the like would provide far superior peer based support than you'd get from your provider. Of course chances are if you weren't putting custom stuff on your phone you'd be far less likely to need it, but the collective knowledge here for general support of devices is far more impressive than some tech support drone that you'd speak to if you called in to you provider.
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Why do you assume it was samsung that held back the update? It was more than likely ATT, being that other providers had already released the update.
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Let's be honest, this phone could have come with 2.2 on it already when it shipped. Samsung took quite a while to get 2.2 ready even for the I9000s. There are always going to be carriers delays after it's ready, but Samsung took their time as well.
AJerman said:
Let's be honest, this phone could have come with 2.2 on it already when it shipped. Samsung took quite a while to get 2.2 ready even for the I9000s. There are always going to be carriers delays after it's ready, but Samsung took their time as well.
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Froyo was announced less than 2 months before this phone shipped. The source wasn't available until less than a month before. I see no problem with shipping with 2.1 under these circumstances.
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you obviously haven't tried any 2.2.1 i9000 roms then... Because they blow the doors off any official froyo rom from samsuck. I tried cog 4 and torch and it lagged beyond belief, no offense to dg, but its samsucks fault.
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I've used 2.2.1 ROMs and they are great. If I recall Serendipity is one and it was my favorite prior to Andromeda (which is 2.2 i9010 based and very fast). Cog 4.1 is the first of DGs ROM I've used for more than a day in months; I haven't been a huge fan. As soon as i9000 kernels became mostly trouble free I moved on. I'm not saying the others were bad and I'm not saying 4.1 is better than brand x, I just like it better than previous DG ROMs I tried.
As for your lag problems with Cog 4.1, I don't doubt you, I just don't have it, but I'm using the Paragon kernel which may account for our different experiences.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Crt5xhLWmnM&feature=youtube_gdata_player
Found this on Mydroidworld. Looks like they have done alot of work! Thanks p3droid for giving us a sneak peek.
I'm.... speechless
Looks like Froyo with an edited build that someone got Netflix to work on. But I hope I'm wrong.
Syn Ack said:
Looks like Froyo with an edited build that someone got Netflix to work on. But I hope I'm wrong.
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We all hope you're wrong, lol.
Native Gingerbread should be coming soon seeing as the Thunderbolt will be receiving it before the end of June. Hopefully we can get that so we can see alot more custom ROM builds being made.
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Native Gingerbread should be coming soon seeing as the Thunderbolt will be receiving it before the end of June. Hopefully we can get that so we can see alot more custom ROM builds being made.
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Ya I heard the TB was getting it June 30th so I would assume roughly a month later for the Charge but I also heard that they were going to just skip giving the Charge GB and go straight to ICS, that's one thing I hate about these cell phone companies, they never give us definite release dates on anything, it's always leak this, rumor that...
Where'd you hear that the Charge would be getting ICS straight from Froyo? It'd be great to get it soon, but I doubt this will be the first phone to get it by any means, and I'm sure they'll have Gingerbread ready before ICS comes out.
Anyway, this is awesome. I knew Samsung was working on Gingerbread, and its already out for the other SGS phones, so it can't be that long. But I'm wondering if TBH got it on there themselves, or if they were able to procure a pre-release build leak. I'm thinking the latter because of the apparently stock ROM otherwise, but then again maybe that was the most stable way to do it.
Its from P3Droid and Team Black Hat, so for those saying its fake, its not. This is great though, apparently that thread worked and they're showing some real interest in this device. With Gingerbread right around the corner, it'd be great to have CM7 to look forward to! Can't wait to see this get out in some build we can use...
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Where'd you hear that the Charge would be getting ICS straight from Froyo? It'd be great to get it soon, but I doubt this will be the first phone to get it by any means, and I'm sure they'll have Gingerbread ready before ICS comes out.
Anyway, this is awesome. I knew Samsung was working on Gingerbread, and its already out for the other SGS phones, so it can't be that long. But I'm wondering if TBH got it on there themselves, or if they were able to procure a pre-release build leak. I'm thinking the latter because of the apparently stock ROM otherwise, but then again maybe that was the most stable way to do it.
Its from P3Droid and Team Black Hat, so for those saying its fake, its not. This is great though, apparently that thread worked and they're showing some real interest in this device. With Gingerbread right around the corner, it'd be great to have CM7 to look forward to! Can't wait to see this get out in some build we can use...
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Nononono I was reading somewhere, I think it was an Android Forum, they were talking about the Charge not getting Gingerbread and just going Froyo > Icecream, I'm not saying it was going to get it first I meant it wouldn't be getting Gingerbread, it's not confirmed information at all but Gingerbread isn't confirmed either so that's why I'm a bit skeptical
I can't wait to get Netflix to work.
Anyone get Netflix to work on 2.2.1 EE4?
I have read several forums where people have been told by Verizon and/or Samsung reps. that they are not working on gb for the Charge and that they plan to just skip to ICS...although this info is probably coming from some tech support guy in India who can hardly speak English so who knows. I'm just happy to see that SOMEONE is working on getting this thing up-to-date, even if it isn't the corporations that should have released it with 2.3 in the first place...
Well we have a gb leak so they must have been working on it.
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Syn Ack said:
Looks like Froyo with an edited build that someone got Netflix to work on. But I hope I'm wrong.
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Wrong it is in fact and actual GB build for the Charge. I did not see that actual device in the video but I have in fact seen the file and watched it be flashed to a Charge. Its coming just a matter of when the release hits. Word I've gotten is hopefully around Aug time frame.
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Ya I heard the TB was getting it June 30th so I would assume roughly a month later for the Charge but I also heard that they were going to just skip giving the Charge GB and go straight to ICS, that's one thing I hate about these cell phone companies, they never give us definite release dates on anything, it's always leak this, rumor that...
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Completely inaccurate. ICS is not even going to be ready for til 4th Qtr to start with. And as for GB it will for sure be coming to the Charge and in the not to distant future like I just stated.
Not sure why anyone would think that the release of Gingerbread on the Charge will somehow fall into some kind of lockstep timing schedule (30 days after) with the Thunderbolt, when the Thunderbolt is an HTC device and the Charge is Samsung. Two different companies, two different set of internal developers, two different business models etc, etc.
We might get GB next week, or next year, or never, I don't know, but I do know that the release of GB on the TB has nothing to do with the release of GB on the Charge.
Sad that GB is over a year old now, and we're still getting Froyo on the "top of the line" devices and still stressing over when, if ever, we'll get it on three month old devices.
I doubt that any vendors besides the one creating the next Nexus phone has ics. It's nearly half a year away from announcement. Anyways, P3Droid is completely legit. He released gingerbread for the fascinate last week. He ran a video much like that one and people said that he was running froyo and being skeptical. I was running that gb build on my fascinate until I broke it and purchased a charge. If he says he has it, he has it. He apparently has a leaker and I thank God that he does.
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I doubt that any vendors besides the one creating the next Nexus phone has ics. It's nearly half a year away from announcement. Anyways, P3Droid is completely legit. He released gingerbread for the fascinate last week. He ran a video much like that one and people said that he was running froyo and being skeptical. I was running that gb build on my fascinate until I broke it and purchased a charge. If he says he has it, he has it. He apparently has a leaker and I thank God that he does.
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Glad to see the Fascinate finally got a real GB. Took Sammy many many months to even give us Froyo which we had a working copy of in January.
I am wondering when we will get a leaked version of this?
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Sad that GB is over a year old now, and we're still getting Froyo on the "top of the line" devices and still stressing over when, if ever, we'll get it on three month old devices.
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You mean 6-8 months old, nowhere near "over a year" old yet. It came out around November-December of 2010, or 6-7 months ago. No need to over exagerate.
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Well we have a gb leak so they must have been working on it.
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Explain. IRC?
The Charge had a GB leak. That is how TBH got a hold of it. I'm thinking other Devs could possibly get a hold of this leak if you know where to look....
But anyway, When I had my DX, TBH was the first to publish a ROM with the leaked GB kernel. They know what they are doing for sure.
I recommend following P3Droid on Twitter. He ususally drops info on a daily basis that I find very interesting. He mentioned weeks ago running netflix on the Charge via Twitter.
Hey guys, ive been wanting to buy a Galaxy note for a while, but I went into Best Buy and played with a dummy phone, well it was a lot bigger then I thought it would be. So I ended up getting a skyrocket. I love it, but I read that last year ATT released 2.3.6 for it. Mine is still 2.3.5 and OTA says its fully updates, and Kies says that it is the latest firmware. So whats the problem? Why can't I update to 2.3.6?
Also, when I go to the Market, I can click individual apps to update, but I can't find an 'update all' button.
Sorry, new here and coming from an iPhone, learning a lot.
Hello! Welcome to the wonderful world of Android! It's a fun ride.
For whatever reason, AT&T/Samsung pulled the update for 2.3.6 from the OTA/Kies.
I'm not sure an official reason why was given for this... but I can't help but wonder if it's something with LTE...
anyway...
The official rooted version of 2.3.6 is in the development section if you wish to use it,
but as far as I can tell, I don't see any benefits of 2.3.6 over 2.3.5 for any real practical reasons. (I.E. battery life, bugs, features go unchanged).
I have the GSII Skyrocket with 2.3.6 and my wife has her with 2.3.5. All our features of our phones work exactly the same way. The only thing I can confirm is, she can change her radio band between 850 to 1900... and my radio is locked (which is explained in the development section under the radio post).
Don't worry too much about it. Android 4.0.3 will come along soon enough and you won't even care about 2.3.6.
I want to know if I can go back to 2.3.6 from 4.0.4 on my Skyrocket. I did the update before reading, and definitely sooner than I should have. Normally, I wait a few weeks, but I hadn't had any issues with my Nexus S on ICS, so took the plunge when I received my notification earlier. Now that the update is done, I can say that AT&T screwed its users. Instead of having a nice, flowing OS on our phones, we have AT&T's services continually interfering (Address Book, YP, etc.).
I'd much rather have a usable phone on 2.3.6 than this bloated, nastyness that is AT&T's messed up version of 4.0.4.
Yes. You can.
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VillainousVivi said:
I want to know if I can go back to 2.3.6 from 4.0.4 on my Skyrocket. I did the update before reading, and definitely sooner than I should have. Normally, I wait a few weeks, but I hadn't had any issues with my Nexus S on ICS, so took the plunge when I received my notification earlier. Now that the update is done, I can say that AT&T screwed its users. Instead of having a nice, flowing OS on our phones, we have AT&T's services continually interfering (Address Book, YP, etc.).
I'd much rather have a usable phone on 2.3.6 than this bloated, nastyness that is AT&T's messed up version of 4.0.4.
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read this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1652398 but only to get to 2.3.5 or ics, not 2.3.6 dont think thats possible
VillainousVivi said:
I want to know if I can go back to 2.3.6 from 4.0.4 on my Skyrocket. I did the update before reading, and definitely sooner than I should have. Normally, I wait a few weeks, but I hadn't had any issues with my Nexus S on ICS, so took the plunge when I received my notification earlier. Now that the update is done, I can say that AT&T screwed its users. Instead of having a nice, flowing OS on our phones, we have AT&T's services continually interfering (Address Book, YP, etc.).
I'd much rather have a usable phone on 2.3.6 than this bloated, nastyness that is AT&T's messed up version of 4.0.4.
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why don't you just remove those services using Titanium backup?
If you tweak ICS in a proper way , it very much close to GB smoothness with the add features ...
I couldn't disagree more on ICS. I debloated, and on Apex launcher, it is a significant upgrade from Gingerbread. A lot of things are smoother, especially with flash video, and xvid decoding.
Well, I have to toss my hat in the "Why don't you Root it and Clean it up?" crowd.
I bought my phone Monday, came home, loaded ICS, rooted it the next day, froze or removed all the AT&T bloat, put Nova Launcher on there and I could not be happier with the phone.
Some will suggest that you load a custom ROM on there. If that's your thing, go for it. Myself, I depend on my phone too much to not be able to get support. I use custom rom's on my tablet and I've got several apps that don't work right. The ROM developer is of no help. And the app developers won't help because it's not a OEM rom. I can live with that on my tablet, but not my phone.
WolfmanRobby said:
Well, I have to toss my hat in the "Why don't you Root it and Clean it up?" crowd.
I bought my phone Monday, came home, loaded ICS, rooted it the next day, froze or removed all the AT&T bloat, put Nova Launcher on there and I could not be happier with the phone.
Some will suggest that you load a custom ROM on there. If that's your thing, go for it. Myself, I depend on my phone too much to not be able to get support. I use custom rom's on my tablet and I've got several apps that don't work right. The ROM developer is of no help. And the app developers won't help because it's not a OEM rom. I can live with that on my tablet, but not my phone.
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I am a big fan of reliability also. Normally I wind up stock on phones. Not so on this phone. I am really impressed with Sean's work. ATT really loads on the bloat and some of the junk (YP in the address book) is hard to get out. I have been running his port of the Roger's rom and it is solid. (on ATT) It also has some nice features like the call recording (free). I like it so much I haven't even messed with his ATT official ICS port (or the Kies OTA one).
Imho..
rpolansky said:
I am a big fan of reliability also. Normally I wind up stock on phones. Not so on this phone. I am really impressed with Sean's work. ATT really loads on the bloat and some of the junk (YP in the address book) is hard to get out. I have been running his port of the Roger's rom and it is solid. (on ATT) It also has some nice features like the call recording (free). I like it so much I haven't even messed with his ATT official ICS port (or the Kies OTA one).
Imho..
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Got a link to go check it out? I'm not sure you you are talking about when you say "Sean."
Oh, I actually like the Yellow Pages stuff. I use the heck out of it and have since my BlackBerry days. LoL
WolfmanRobby said:
Got a link to go check it out? I'm not sure you you are talking about when you say "Sean."
Oh, I actually like the Yellow Pages stuff. I use the heck out of it and have since my BlackBerry days. LoL
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Killer ROM based on the official Rogers ICS:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1722828
His newest ROM based on the offical ATT ICS:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1763195
I have been running the Rogers ICS for weeks on ATT and have no problems at all. It is very smooth and fast. Everybody has different software, of course; but it is like running stock just faster with some tweaks.
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His newest ROM based on the offical ATT ICS:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1763195
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This is the ROM I'm running. It is SMOOTH and in one word : Amazing
I am running the "stockish" version (not the speed dragon version).
Exchange email
4.2F6 R2 base
Update 1.7
UCLF6 radio
UCLF6 modded kernel
My son has a new Skyrocket as of 2 weeks ago. I just upgraded his phone to ICS using Kies. It is not anywhere in the same league as Seanzscream's "Sky ICS" from based on AT&T's official release.
I was running Seanz ICS Rom based on Rogers. It was great! But I honestly think the AT&T version runs better.
Sean provides great support (the best dev I've experienced in my 3 years of flashing Roms). You can feel confident flashing his AT&T rom for your daily driver. I NEED my phone to work. And it works better than stock.:thumbup:
rpolansky said:
His newest ROM based on the offical ATT ICS:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1763195
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Thanks for the link. I just looked at the thread and, honestly, I doubt I would fool with a ROM where I have to choose the radio and the email on top of the ROM build. Too many variables to screw with means too many chances to screw something up.
If it was just flashing the ROM, yeah, I'd give it a try. But, I need my phone too much to play around with different radios and such to make sure I got the right one.
On my tablet, yeah.. I treat that thing like Frankenstein's monster!
WolfmanRobby said:
Thanks for the link. I just looked at the thread and, honestly, I doubt I would fool with a ROM where I have to choose the radio and the email on top of the ROM build. Too many variables to screw with means too many chances to screw something up.
If it was just flashing the ROM, yeah, I'd give it a try. But, I need my phone too much to play around with different radios and such to make sure I got the right one.
On my tablet, yeah.. I treat that thing like Frankenstein's monster!
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You don't have to choose those.
I flashed the "non dragon" which has all of the stock mail functionality in it, as well as the most up to date radio, and I honestly couldn't be happier. The entire process took less than ten minutes, and it's worlds apart better than stock.
Give it a shot, I'm pretty sure you won't be disappointed.
Surprisingly enough, I couldn't get my office 365 email account to setup correctly on the stock build from AT&T, but after flashing sean's rom, I've had absolutely 0 problems.
vincom said:
read this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1652398 but only to get to 2.3.5 or ics, not 2.3.6 dont think thats possible
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i found out that it is possible to get 2.3.6 back on the phone. the info is on my sticky in the first link in my sig
Chewza said:
You don't have to choose those.
I flashed the "non dragon" which has all of the stock mail functionality in it, as well as the most up to date radio, and I honestly couldn't be happier. The entire process took less than ten minutes, and it's worlds apart better than stock.
Give it a shot, I'm pretty sure you won't be disappointed.
Surprisingly enough, I couldn't get my office 365 email account to setup correctly on the stock build from AT&T, but after flashing sean's rom, I've had absolutely 0 problems.
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That's good to know, but I still won't go for it for the other reason I stated.... Support by 3rd party developers for their apps.
I have a half dozen apps that I have issues with on my Tablet that I can not get developers to support because I'm running a custom ROM. I can't risk that on my phone. Take Pandora. On my Tablet, it will play one song, then DRAG until I skip a song. They refuse to support it because I'm running a non-official ROM. It ticks me off because I like to use my tablet to listen to music in bed (On it's charging stand, plugged into a 2.1 speaker system with the sub under the bed).
And, yeah, you can SAY you are running stock because the ROM is based off stock. But, as soon as you have to send them a log, or debugging info, they will see it's not stock and your support for that app is gone.
So, I'll stick with telling the OP to try a wipe and reload from a CLEAN phone (Clean all the caches). And, then rooting and freezing the bloatware.