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[Q] Definitive Custom ROM for G2X?

Is there a particular ROM that is a fully functional, cut above the rest, must-have custom ROM? Looking to root my G2X, but I was wondering if it was even worth it at this point (aside from getting rid of bloatware).

At this point, probably Bionix 2.

I say Bionix 2 eventually. For right now I don't think there is a very "feature-rich" ROM that is stable enough for true everyday use. Right now we're limited to stable ROMs that remove bloatware and optimize the software.
I am currently using EaglesBlood 1.0.4 Froyo and am very happy with it.

Is there a ROM that fixes the problem with frequent data disconnections? I can't do anything that involves streaming, including Slacker, without the phone constantly losing its connection.

jfleegle said:
Is there a ROM that fixes the problem with frequent data disconnections? I can't do anything that involves streaming, including Slacker, without the phone constantly losing its connection.
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Maybe thats a problem with the 4G network? I live in between Milwaukee and Chicago, so its shaky at best. I average around 800 kb/s (pathetic) but the closer I get to either city and it starts to take off (6 mb/s is my all time high IIRC) A friend (who is also a tmobile rep, so take this with a grain of salt) mentioned that t-mobile is revamping their 4G network and coverage should be much much better in our area around the end of summer.

Bionix 2
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jfleegle said:
Is there a ROM that fixes the problem with frequent data disconnections? I can't do anything that involves streaming, including Slacker, without the phone constantly losing its connection.
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I'm glad thats not just happening to me. Are you losing mobile connection or WiFi connection of data? Honestly it happens to me all day everyday... All connections just get locked out, anywhere from 2mins to 10mins.
None of the kernels/ROMs are working like you expect. Some say they do but if you're like me and use data, sms, mms, phone, email and gps then you're SOL. because one if not more of those things are going to just not work or cut in and out on you. So play around if you have self control to not destroy your phone into a thousand pieces.
I'm trying EagleBlood now...after I charge this thing I mean. lol

Eaglesblood 1.04 GB is absolutely perfect so far.

I would say Bionix 2 is on its way, CM 7 still needs a lot of work to be a stable daily driver. Haven't tried any others, but too many issues it seems, on any of thse roms for it to be classified as "far above the rest".
Im using the leaked 2.3.3 ROM and so far have had no issues, works like a charm.

YuryAC said:
I would say Bionix 2 is on its way, CM 7 still needs a lot of work to be a stable daily driver. Haven't tried any others, but too many issues it seems, on any of thse roms for it to be classified as "far above the rest".
Im using the leaked 2.3.3 ROM and so far have had no issues, works like a charm.
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You got a source you can point to?
...and say you're on a leaked 2.3 would your device auto-recognize that a 'newer version is available' if they push the update? Probably not huh...

I would say any of the custom roms are more stable than stock INCLUDING CM7. Honestly, I have no idea why some people are still saying CM7 is not a daily driver. I'm pretty picky and I find it to be damn near perfect now. It had plenty of issues on the first nightly, but by #11 or so, it had everything major worked out, and by #18, even the minor stuff has basically disappeared.

For me is EB Froyo 1.04
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Ask this question in a month or two.
But for now bionix 2.
Sent from my G2x running Bionix 2 with the power of Trinity.

TWiiTCH said:
You got a source you can point to?
...and say you're on a leaked 2.3 would your device auto-recognize that a 'newer version is available' if they push the update? Probably not huh...
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Well think about it.. say it DID detect that auto update... you wouldn't want to auto update your rooted G2X with an official from from T-Mob that would UNROOT your phone anyway. When that release comes we're all going to wait for the devs to do their thing on it and then update... if other custom roms are ready yet that is.

btate0121 said:
Well think about it.. say it DID detect that auto update... you wouldn't want to auto update your rooted G2X with an official from from T-Mob that would UNROOT your phone anyway. When that release comes we're all going to wait for the devs to do their thing on it and then update... if other custom roms are ready yet that is.
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>Well thats exactly why I mentioned it. This is my first droid and first time getting my hands dirty in Linux. I have a background in windows scripting so there's a little learning curve but Im picking it up quick. I dont know if they typically "push" these updates or if it's user initiated.
Anyway I just flashed the leaked version of GB 2.3 and it's totally solid... feels like butter, so smooth and much more feel (you'll see what I mean). The the leaked version had signed release keys which is *usually* indicative of a publishable version... meaning this very well may be the actual release.... just leaked The baseband hasn't been updated so no super goodies yet and the kernel is the same as stock but here's a start. I think THIS is a good page to link to since it gives the detailed root/download/install instructions for you folks that get unsure of yourself at every step
*EDIT*= Just noticed something... In the link follow all the relevant instructions. One thing I disagree with and advise otherwise is the "ROM Manager > Install ROM from SD Card"... this has a few potentials for failure and just isn't reliable enough to recommend. I've had ROMs not load or not update and you just open an unneeded potential for problems. When you get to that step do this instead: Open ROM Manager and select "Backup Current ROM"... your device will reboot and backup etc.. Once its done and restarts go back to ROM Mgr and select "Reboot In Recovery" and from there you should choose "Install from zip"... the UP and DOWN Volume keys move the cursor and the Power button pressed once is 'select'... just move slow so you dont accidentally hit the power button on the wrong option. If you do it this way your potential for success is superior.
**Again read all disclaimers and notations associated with modifying your device and do so at your own will. Damaging consequences could always occur.**

TWiiTCH said:
You got a source you can point to?
...and say you're on a leaked 2.3 would your device auto-recognize that a 'newer version is available' if they push the update? Probably not huh...
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doesn't matter because devs will likely make a rom for ne new gb ota updates any ways so......

CM7 nightly #99 seemed to be the most stable for my g2x so far. But I've had a bunch of problems with #101. I'm going to try Bionix (really hope rc2 comes soon) but I will likely revert back to CM7 as soon as its stable.

[Q] Noob ?s: New to Rooting, Not new to IT

Hi guys - Great website. I love the amount of information being exchanged here. I am new to the rooting environment, but I am not new to IT. I have an IT career, some entry level programming, SQL scripting, and have modded playstations and xboxes previously so I should be able to follow much of the technical talk.
I just purchased a Samsung Charge and have completed the one click root and have confirmed that I have root on ED1. So my questions are (please link to thread if answered elsewhere):
How do I determine which mod/rom is the best and safest to use? Gummy, Altered beast, etc?
Are any gingerbread based mods out or are they all froyo based for the Charge? What is the newest out and is there a projected release schedule?
How do I get the wireless hot stop working for free once I am rooted? Do I have to install a ROM?
Is the Odin application the best way to update the ROMs?
Is the ROM the OS update and the kernel the BIOS update?
It looks like there is an issue doing backups with Charge Mods, so how do I backup my phone? (it looks like the ability to backup has been removed from some mods)
So I am rooted. What are the next steps I need to follow: 1) Backup (how) 2) install new OS ROM????
Thanks for your time.

DawgPoundMBA said:
Hi guys - Great website. I love the amount of information being exchanged here. I am new to the rooting environment, but I am not new to IT. I have an IT career, some entry level programming, SQL scripting, and have modded playstations and xboxes previously so I should be able to follow much of the technical talk.
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Welcome, you seem like a prime candidate for this adventure!
I just purchased a Samsung Charge and have completed the one click root and have confirmed that I have root on ED1. So my questions are (please link to thread if answered elsewhere):
How do I determine which mod/rom is the best and safest to use? Gummy, Altered beast, etc?
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Pretty much just by reading their threads and seeing what issues people are having. That being said, the Charge ROMs are all pretty new, so safest is to just find a rooted version of stock, which you seem to have accomplished. The other ROMs are trying to improve on things by doing things such as "debloating" (removing useless stuff added by Verizon), etc., but this can have unintended consequences. For instance, with Altered Beast, you'll see he released fixed versions of stock apps which broke.
Are any gingerbread based mods out or are they all froyo based for the Charge? What is the newest out and is there a projected release schedule?
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They're all Froyo for now. I'd guess a Gingerbread version will be out within the next month or so, depending on how many devs are working on it. I think Gummy is slightly newer than Altered Beast, but that could change any second. Actually, the newest at this moment is the OTA (Over The Air) release from Verizon last night, EE4.
How do I get the wireless hot stop working for free once I am rooted? Do I have to install a ROM?
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You just need to install an app. Search the market, or search the forums for what others are using. They're getting a little more difficult to find as Verizon has started blocking some of them from their version of the market.
Is the Odin application the best way to update the ROMs?
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Right now it seems to be. Though once you use that and have CWM (ClockWork Mod) installed, you might be able to update using CWM. Still a little early to tell.
Is the ROM the OS update and the kernel the BIOS update?
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Pretty close. ROM, as we usually use the term, refers to the Boot ROM, which is the first code run, and essentially the O/S, though some ROMs aren't a complete replacement for all of it. The kernel isn't quite as equivalent, but that's true to the extent that it handles communication between the software and the hardware.
It looks like there is an issue doing backups with Charge Mods, so how do I backup my phone? (it looks like the ability to backup has been removed from some mods)
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There's an issue with doing backups through CWM, but you can still use something like Titanium Backup. What do you want to backup? If it's just your software, settings, etc., that should be fine.
So I am rooted. What are the next steps I need to follow: 1) Backup (how) 2) install new OS ROM????
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1) Use alternate software, such as Titanium Backup. 2) Use ODIN for now.
Thanks for your time.
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You're welcome!

I have the ED1 versions rooted with gingerbreak and used root explorer to change the script from ED1 to ED2. Everything is working good and launcher pro is making it look better, but is it safe to load altered beast or other roms using Odin or will it mess it up? I would like to get CWM on it to go straight into bootloader like I did with the Incredible.

The kernel shouldn't be related to a BIOS in a PC, that would be your bootloader. A kernel is part of an Operating system. Windows, Linux, and Mac OS X all have kernels. The kernel, as I understand it, is sort of like the middle man between the software you "see" and the hardware. Drivers are a core part of a kernel, but aren't the only thing in the kernel. A ROM, is the OS, as a kernel is included in any ROM. The ROM will consist of the applications included, be it themed applications or custom built ones, and a kernel.
Keep in mind this is a large generalization of the whole subject, but I think its a good overview.

psalm462 said:
I have the ED1 versions rooted with gingerbreak and used root explorer to change the script from ED1 to ED2. Everything is working good and launcher pro is making it look better, but is it safe to load altered beast or other roms using Odin or will it mess it up? I would like to get CWM on it to go straight into bootloader like I did with the Incredible.
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You can use Odin to install Altered Beast and you'll be fine. you might want to wait a couple of days to see what happens with this EE4 release, though.
morkon - good description of the kernel.

not to be a downer, but i wouldnt put any eta's on anything gingerbread related...my overly optimistic guess (based on no inside knowledge) for anything official would be late august...but knowing the vzw/samsung combo (regardless of the droid branding) #gingergate could be on until late Fall/Christmas

Thank you for the information. I will check it out in more detail when I get home from work.

nitsuj17 said:
not to be a downer, but i wouldnt put any eta's on anything gingerbread related...my overly optimistic guess (based on no inside knowledge) for anything official would be late august...but knowing the vzw/samsung combo (regardless of the droid branding) #gingergate could be on until late Fall/Christmas
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I wouldn't really expect an official Samsung Gingerbread ROM until next year. They are incredibly slow. However, I wouldn't be surprised to see an unofficial version well before then.

chadness said:
I wouldn't really expect an official Samsung Gingerbread ROM until next year. They are incredibly slow. However, I wouldn't be surprised to see an unofficial version well before then.
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Incredibly slow, yet the DROID Charge just received it's 2nd OTA update in 1 month from release, and the Fascinate just got it's 6th/7th OTA update in the past 8 months as well, and as far as I know, the international SGS has had a similar number of updates come out for it as well. The problem isn't Samsung producing the updates (anymore), it's getting the carriers test them and submit feedback in a timely manner.
Given that the SGS line is getting Gingerbread over the summer from most reports I've read, I'd expect the Charge to get Gingerbread sometime late summer/fall, as well as the rest of the US lineup of SGS phones.

chadness said:
You can use Odin to install Altered Beast and you'll be fine. you might want to wait a couple of days to see what happens with this EE4 release, though.
morkon - good description of the kernel.
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OK, thanks! I have only had it a day and I have not played with ODIN, so it scares me to death. I can say that with one day of trying it, the GPS is horrible! It had me over 2 miles off.

I am not sure why the below happened, but I did soft brick. I restarted the whole process and it is moving along now so please disregard.
Question. I am using Odin to install alteredbeast. I held down the volume key until after i clicked start on the ROM. It has been working for about 5 minutes and on my phone i can see a downloading icon with a "AX_TIMEOUT" in red in the top left. Did I screw up?

DawgPoundMBA said:
I am not sure why the below happened, but I did soft brick. I restarted the whole process and it is moving along now so please disregard.
Question. I am using Odin to install alteredbeast. I held down the volume key until after i clicked start on the ROM. It has been working for about 5 minutes and on my phone i can see a downloading icon with a "AX_TIMEOUT" in red in the top left. Did I screw up?
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You only have to hold the down volume button for a few seconds, until you get to the yellow downloading screen. Im not sure if that has an effect, but I'd start over. Turn off any antivirus, plug in to your rear USB ports, and try again.

imnuts said:
Incredibly slow, yet the DROID Charge just received it's 2nd OTA update in 1 month from release, and the Fascinate just got it's 6th/7th OTA update in the past 8 months as well, and as far as I know, the international SGS has had a similar number of updates come out for it as well. The problem isn't Samsung producing the updates (anymore), it's getting the carriers test them and submit feedback in a timely manner.
Given that the SGS line is getting Gingerbread over the summer from most reports I've read, I'd expect the Charge to get Gingerbread sometime late summer/fall, as well as the rest of the US lineup of SGS phones.
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They're doing well on the bugfixes, I'll give them that. But with how long we waited for updates for my wife's Epic, I'm not super keen on Samsung's update schedule. They ranked last on the list of manufacturers updating to newer versions of software. That being said, I'm hoping with this as their Verizon flagship they'll stay on top of it.

MR2 Coming Soon

MR2 will be coming via OTA in the next couple of days MR2 has been through four different revisions and will be based on the 1.70.xx code. There are a number of fixes but the most important should be fixing the reboots and improving the 4G/3G transitions.
I know everyone is waiting for GB which is MR3, but it still needs some time. The good news is that it is being worked on it is already on its fifth SW revision.

Awesome. I can wait for GB no problem, I just want a fix for the reboots. I'm sick of my phone rebooting 5+ times a day, happy an update is coming soon.
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OR... you could just scoot on over to the dev forum and pick yourself up a spiffy new rom built on MR2 which is quite solid and fast and will use the same or very similar radios to what will be in the OTA. I tried a couple of them. They are spartan on fancy stuff, but they are reliable if nothing else. Possibly the most functional and reliable roms over there.

Why does someone always have to pop intro threads like this and state the obvious. I'm sure everyone with a Thunderbolt that frequents these forums is aware that rooting and installing a custom rom is an option. Some people have their reasons for wanting to stay stock.
I for one am still stock because this is the first phone I've had in quite a while that the stock rom is quite good. I spent a long time on WinMo, so I am used to custom roms just the make the device functional. Right now custom roms on the TB are mostly just different, not necessarily a huge need to me (GB roms are debatable on this point).
Once the custom roms offer something I want that I can't get from stock (and mature a bit more), I'm sure I'll root and rom. For now I'm enjoying stock stability and a working camera. Just because someone can do something doesn't make it something they need to do.
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animez said:
Why does someone always have to pop intro threads like this and state the obvious. I'm sure everyone with a Thunderbolt that frequents these forums is aware that rooting and installing a custom rom is an option. Some people have their reasons for wanting to stay stock.
I for one am still stock because this is the first phone I've had in quite a while that the stock rom is quite good. I spent a long time on WinMo, so I am used to custom roms just the make the device functional. Right now custom roms on the TB are mostly just different, not necessarily a huge need to me (GB roms are debatable on this point).
Once the custom roms offer something I want that I can't get from stock (and mature a bit more), I'm sure I'll root and rom. For now I'm enjoying stock stability and a working camera. Just because someone can do something doesn't make it something they need to do.
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My thoughts exactly. Sure I would like to avoid the reboots (given I have had 2 in a 3 week period), and maybe a faster better radio, but the software and sense is so solid.

need bb said:
MR2 will be coming via OTA in the next couple of days MR2 has been through four different revisions and will be based on the 1.70.xx code. There are a number of fixes but the most important should be fixing the reboots and improving the 4G/3G transitions.
I know everyone is waiting for GB which is MR3, but it still needs some time. The good news is that it is being worked on it is already on its fifth SW revision.
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Where did you get this info?

dcjamies said:
Where did you get this info?
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Flawed info at that. But anyway
The OP history suggests that assumptions and rumors have been listened to and taken as gospel.

animez said:
Why does someone always have to pop intro threads like this and state the obvious. I'm sure everyone with a Thunderbolt that frequents these forums is aware that rooting and installing a custom rom is an option. Some people have their reasons for wanting to stay stock.
I for one am still stock because this is the first phone I've had in quite a while that the stock rom is quite good. I spent a long time on WinMo, so I am used to custom roms just the make the device functional. Right now custom roms on the TB are mostly just different, not necessarily a huge need to me (GB roms are debatable on this point).
Once the custom roms offer something I want that I can't get from stock (and mature a bit more), I'm sure I'll root and rom. For now I'm enjoying stock stability and a working camera. Just because someone can do something doesn't make it something they need to do.
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Bingo.. agreed 100%
Coming from HTC devices like the 8525, ATT Tilt, and Touch Pro 2, Ive just about had my share of ROMs for a lifetime. I just want something that works. After paying all this money, Im gonna let Verizon and HTC do what they're supposed to do.

animez said:
Why does someone always have to pop intro threads like this and state the obvious. I'm sure everyone with a Thunderbolt that frequents these forums is aware that rooting and installing a custom rom is an option. Some people have their reasons for wanting to stay stock.
I for one am still stock because this is the first phone I've had in quite a while that the stock rom is quite good. I spent a long time on WinMo, so I am used to custom roms just the make the device functional. Right now custom roms on the TB are mostly just different, not necessarily a huge need to me (GB roms are debatable on this point).
Once the custom roms offer something I want that I can't get from stock (and mature a bit more), I'm sure I'll root and rom. For now I'm enjoying stock stability and a working camera. Just because someone can do something doesn't make it something they need to do.
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I agree with wanting an official update, but the stock rom is far from good. Yes the speed is good but the battery life is horrible. With custom roms I have been able to triple my battery life and limit the random reboots I was getting stock, along with the already good speed being improved. Das BAMF Stripped 1.8

animez said:
Why does someone always have to pop intro threads like this and state the obvious. I'm sure everyone with a Thunderbolt that frequents these forums is aware that rooting and installing a custom rom is an option. Some people have their reasons for wanting to stay stock.
I for one am still stock because this is the first phone I've had in quite a while that the stock rom is quite good. I spent a long time on WinMo, so I am used to custom roms just the make the device functional. Right now custom roms on the TB are mostly just different, not necessarily a huge need to me (GB roms are debatable on this point).
Once the custom roms offer something I want that I can't get from stock (and mature a bit more), I'm sure I'll root and rom. For now I'm enjoying stock stability and a working camera. Just because someone can do something doesn't make it something they need to do.
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agreed. So far only 1 reboot in 2 weeks (apparently that is good) and I get occasional instances where home button doesn't want to work.
I just wish the damn thing rebooted faster. It takes almost 2 minutes to boot, then another couple of minutes before sense is responsive.
Coming from the hd7 and 25 second boot times, this is killer...
I also made/used custom roms on my q9c, tp2 and hd2, but want to give stock a chance. Maybe I will root if I decide I need to tether, but so far, things are looking good stock.

Pushed to mid July
Lol enjoy stock

crazyhtown said:
Pushed to mid July
Lol enjoy stock
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alot of us are. thanks for your concern.

adrynalyne said:
Flawed info at that. But anyway
The OP history suggests that assumptions and rumors have been listened to and taken as gospel.
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But I read it on the internet, so that has to make it true.

mr2.5 is treating me well and ive had zero reboots. i can wait a bit for the new radio.

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Pushed to mid July
Lol enjoy stock
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#1 how do you know it's been pushed back?
#2 i think most on here and happily enjoying gingerbread but thanks for the concern.

Some documents state we will be getting a removal of free mobile hotspot via ota July 6th . Maybe it will be attached to the update .
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Both the MR2 and the MR2.5 have been a good temporary fix for me, until a new radio is released.

Crazyhtown = Lol enjoy stock[/QUOTE said:
Not really called for man. Stock, Ropoted Stock Or GB, Does it really matter, lets just help each other instead of some acting like they are better because you are on something besides stock.
Stock runs very well and so do the roms the devs are busting their butts to put out, still doesn't mean we have to knock each other...
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"mr2" we leaked on the forums is NOT mr2. 1.66/1.67/1.68/1.69 will not be MR2.
I can confirm OP's comments on the current "mr2" candidate version number, and give a approximate release of july 6th. With verizon things are given to change, the release date can change, so can the version being released.

Jrocker23 said:
Not really called for man. Stock, Ropoted Stock Or GB, Does it really matter, lets just help each other instead of some acting like they are better because you are on something besides stock.
Stock runs very well and so do the roms the devs are busting their butts to put out, still doesn't mean we have to knock each other...
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His comment was pretty blunt/unhelpful and rude, but there does tend to be some complaining from those that want to have their cake (those that don't want to root) and eat it too (still want updates/workarounds as quick as those that have root).
Those that seem to be frustrated by such things, perhaps android is not the phone for them or at least android phones that are not officially blessed by google (nexus phones).

Thank you to the developers of MR3

I wanted to thank the developers of MR3 in this thread. Liquid, Jester, etc.
I'm a long time lurker of this forum since I got my Thunderbolt. I'm VERY VERY appreciative of the developers for creating a very functional ICS rom for the Thunderbolt. Shame on HTC and Verizon for sandbagging so long with what should be a very simple upgrade for them. I was running Thundershed for awhile but grew tired of the Gingerbread look and feel of Android. My friends all mostly have newer phones with ICS, and I couldn't believe that it was supposed to be out in August and it's now mid-October and it's still not out.
To my surprise, I log on to here and see that an ICS ROM had been released.
My only issues with this ROM are random restarts and the white screen error in Facebook/Gmail/etc. I don't really use the video camera much in general; could you use an aftermarket app, or is it broken period?
Otherwise, I absolutely LOVE this and will never go back to Verizon's bloated software. Even when an OTA is released with ICS I won't go back. My phone is running much faster and much better than with Sense and Gingerbread. With data off I had a 10% decrease in battery in 7 hours; with data on and normal use I'll get maybe 5 hours out of a charge on this ROM. About normal for this phone and it's absolutely terrible battery life with the stock battery.
I have it overclocked to 1.5ghz running interactiveX as my governor. It runs beautifully, other than those two minor issues I pointed out above. I haven't experienced any data drops or anything out of the sort like that.

vashts80 said:
I wanted to thank the developers of MR3 in this thread. Liquid, Jester, etc.
I'm a long time lurker of this forum since I got my Thunderbolt. I'm VERY VERY appreciative of the developers for creating a very functional ICS rom for the Thunderbolt. Shame on HTC and Verizon for sandbagging so long with what should be a very simple upgrade for them. I was running Thundershed for awhile but grew tired of the Gingerbread look and feel of Android. My friends all mostly have newer phones with ICS, and I couldn't believe that it was supposed to be out in August and it's now mid-October and it's still not out.
To my surprise, I log on to here and see that an ICS ROM had been released.
My only issues with this ROM are random restarts and the white screen error in Facebook/Gmail/etc. I don't really use the video camera much in general; could you use an aftermarket app, or is it broken period?
Otherwise, I absolutely LOVE this and will never go back to Verizon's bloated software. Even when an OTA is released with ICS I won't go back. My phone is running much faster and much better than with Sense and Gingerbread. With data off I had a 10% decrease in battery in 7 hours; with data on and normal use I'll get maybe 5 hours out of a charge on this ROM. About normal for this phone and it's absolutely terrible battery life with the stock battery.
I have it overclocked to 1.5ghz running interactiveX as my governor. It runs beautifully, other than those two minor issues I pointed out above. I haven't experienced any data drops or anything out of the sort like that.
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I second this thread.
A major thanks goes out to all of you who develop, in any way, for the Thunderbolt community. This even includes testers.
To answer your questions...
The video and front camera are broken even with an aftermarket app and will remain broken, most likely, until Verizon releases the OTA. From the OTA, our awesome developers will then be able to fix camera issues and many other issues that will make their ROM's 100% stable.
Also, if you get random reboots, you may want to flash to a different radio.
If you are currently running the OTA radios from the 2.11.605.19 software and still get these reboots, try flashing the combo radio and hopefully the reboots will vanish or, at least, happen less often.
If you go to your settings, about phone, software information, more, and look at the baseband version...
If the numbers you see are:
1.49.00.0406w_1, 0.01.79.0331w_1
Then you are on the OTA 2.11.605.19 radios, which is my recommendation for the radios to use with this ROM. If these are the radio numbers you see, try the combo radio. If the numbers you see under your phones baseband version is not:
1.49.00.0406w_1, 0.01.79.0331w_1
Then it may be:
1.48.00.0930w_3, 0.01.78.0916w_3
If it is:
1.48.00.0930w_3, 0.01.78.0916w_3
Try flashing the 2.11.605.19 OTA radios found here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1605557
If you have the 2.11.605.19 radios, though, try flashing the combo radio found here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1864157
If you aren't sure how to flash a radio, here's a video tutorial for you to follow:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eu-KLjHGGhc&sns=em
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Definitely want to ditto this thread. Thanks for continuing to support the Thunderbolt. I was on the verge of retiring the Thunderbolt. ICS has brought new the Tbolt new life though!

thanks for the links. I'm going to try upgrading tonight and see if that helps. I notice you flash the radio in hboot. If I do a nandroid backup, does it also backup the radio (so I can restore it)? Or if I **** up, will it be permanently bricked?

Ditto to all that has been said. Thank You to all who made this happen, including HTC and Verizon. Their inaction drove me to decide to root and find alternatives. I've been incredibly pleased with MR3.
Thanks all!
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vashts80 said:
thanks for the links. I'm going to try upgrading tonight and see if that helps. I notice you flash the radio in hboot. If I do a nandroid backup, does it also backup the radio (so I can restore it)? Or if I **** up, will it be permanently bricked?
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If you backup that ROM after flashing the radio, it will back up the ROM. Hboot is a whole different thing than the recovery. That radio is downloaded to the phone and will automatically run on any ROM after its downloaded, even if you start from scratch. But flashing any of those two radios will not brick you on any ROM. Worst case being you won't have signal or data until you flash different radios again.
Say if you upgraded to the newer radios, and then you flash a ROM based on an older software version, you won't brick. In fact, you may not ever experience any issues. Maybe just signal changes or random signal drops.
But no, it won't brick you. It's almost impossible to brick a Thunderbolt.
I recommend after flashing the new radios, immediately go and either change the name from PG05IMG to something custom, move into a different folder that's off of the root of the SD card, or just delete it once flashed.
This is for in a such case where you need to get back into recovery from hboot, it won't prompt you to install the radio again. Because if you had to get into recovery from hboot, it wouldn't allow you to since it runs a check for the PG05IMG files first... and with that being said... I was always told to never flash the same radio twice without changing to a new one first.
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i dont' see why these ROMs get so much acclaim... when i tried LiquidSmooth it wouldn't stay connected to the Internet. tried to toggle wifi and 3G/4G. nothing works and i have to reboot the phone every time i want to use the Internet.
Liquid MR3: the setup crashed and now the ROM won't even come all the way up...
unless my phone's broken or something (going to Verizon tomorrow to reflash and check it), i say they're both absolute garbage. i've had much better luck with ROMs on other phones.

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i dont' see why these ROMs get so much acclaim... when i tried LiquidSmooth it wouldn't stay connected to the Internet. tried to toggle wifi and 3G/4G. nothing works and i have to reboot the phone every time i want to use the Internet.
Liquid MR3: the setup crashed and now the ROM won't even come all the way up...
unless my phone's broken or something (going to Verizon tomorrow to reflash and check it), i say they're both absolute garbage. i've had much better luck with ROMs on other phones.
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Did you try a different radio and redownload? The first shot isnt always the right one....

trter10 said:
Did you try a different radio and redownload? The first shot isnt always the right one....
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whelp... as you can see from my post number, i'm not exactly the most well-versed member around. idk what that means. any reading you can point me to or explanation?

moonlightcheese said:
whelp... as you can see from my post number, i'm not exactly the most well-versed member around. idk what that means. any reading you can point me to or explanation?
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Back up 9 posts and you'll see a link to a video tutorial on how to flash a different radio. You'll even see 2 links to 2 different radios to flash and try.
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RBarnett09 said:
Back up 9 posts and you'll see a link to a video tutorial on how to flash a different radio. You'll even see 2 links to 2 different radios to flash and try.
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well i reflashed Liquid this morning and it didn't crash this time, connected fine via wifi and setup completed properly.
all of my radio issues were on the old version (not sure if there's a difference in radios or whatnot), but if it acts up again i will try your recommendations. thanks a lot.
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moonlightcheese said:
well i reflashed Liquid this morning and it didn't crash this time, connected fine via wifi and setup completed properly.
all of my radio issues were on the old version (not sure if there's a difference in radios or whatnot), but if it acts up again i will try your recommendations. thanks a lot.
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ah i see what happened now.
the first time i flashed it, i cleared /data after the flash before i brought the OS up, but you've included the launcher as a user app and not a system app. was this intentional? a user could easily screw up by uninstalling the launcher and have no way to interact with the OS. shouldn't there be a default launcher embedded in the system programs?
i'm an Android dev, but my understanding of system development is limited, but if i'm not mistaken, any Android ROM should come with a default launcher that is not uninstallable and has no icon as a backup launcher just in case.

He did install it that way so if the user wants to install their own launcher and remove the default. Its simple to make the new one a system app. All that has to be done is move the apk to /system and it is uninstallable.
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KitKat for the Charge?!?!?!?

maybe....
http://au.ibtimes.com/articles/5034...veals-android-4-kitkat-os-11.htm#.UicpuH-I68A
here's a quote from the article:
Android 4.4 KitKat Features
Google hasn't revealed any features yet of the upcoming Android 4.4 KitKat but instead, the company said: "our goal with Android KitKat to make an amazing Android experience available for everybody."
With this statement from Google, it is expected that KitKat will become accessible to Android-running devices with lower RAM such as 512MB and older Android version such as 2.3 Gingerbread. This optimisation has been rumoured to be included in Android 5.0 Key Lime Pie.
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What...
http://signatures.mobile-overload.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/sig-cm-5.png

I would not hold my breath.
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lol no. Unless if it was created by an awesome person here, but there's no point in that. This phone is long dead, earlier this week I finally moved on, and oh my gosh, its been great having a Nexus 4 over this phone that was out-dated before it was even released back in Spring 2011.

Nope
You'll probably never see a KitKat version on the Charge. The main reason is the same that you never saw ICS or JB on the Charge. The code for the radios was never released. I've tried JB on the Charge, it runs well; however the camera and data don't work. Also, while I still use the Charge as my primary phone, there's not many of us left.

ICS and all versions of JB work fine on this phone already... we are just missing the radios.
I doubt anyone cares about this phone anymore anyways...

10amla said:
You'll probably never see a KitKat version on the Charge. The main reason is the same that you never saw ICS or JB on the Charge. The code for the radios was never released. I've tried JB on the Charge, it runs well; however the camera and data don't work. Also, while I still use the Charge as my primary phone, there's not many of us left.
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I'm inclined to agree, though it would be awesome to be proven wrong!
JihadSquad said:
ICS and all versions of JB work fine on this phone already... we are just missing the radios.
I doubt anyone cares about this phone anymore anyways...
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Yeah not many folks left that's for sure... still a few that care though

dwitherell said:
I'm inclined to agree, though it would be awesome to be proven wrong!
Yeah not many folks left that's for sure... still a few that care though
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I agree with both assessments. Thanks for all the work you've done on Tweaked, Dwith. My wife and I love it on our charges.
P.S. One problem I had with Tweaked Lite, when I installed it, it didn't install file manager(I think that's what it's called on stock) and when I went to select a sound(not ringtone) for a ringtone it would show and error. I went to tweaktools and installed the file manager and it works fine. Not sure why it wouldn't work with my other file management programs.

10amla said:
I agree with both assessments. Thanks for all the work you've done on Tweaked, Dwith. My wife and I love it on our charges.
P.S. One problem I had with Tweaked Lite, when I installed it, it didn't install file manager(I think that's what it's called on stock) and when I went to select a sound(not ringtone) for a ringtone it would show and error. I went to tweaktools and installed the file manager and it works fine. Not sure why it wouldn't work with my other file management programs.
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Yeah I am not a fan of MyFiles, and for better or worse the call to that for ringtone selecting is hardcoded... at least tweaktools brings it back quick enough - forgot about that tbh, sorry for the troubles!

dwitherell said:
Yeah I am not a fan of MyFiles, and for better or worse the call to that for ringtone selecting is hardcoded... at least tweaktools brings it back quick enough - forgot about that tbh, sorry for the troubles!
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I agree with your take on MyFiles, one of the first thing I did was replace it with something else(currently FX File Manager). I wasn't a big deal, I had planed on copying my few ringtones to system anyway.

while I agree that the we are more likely to see Republicans and Democrats agree on something, would still be interesting to see if this holds true. I really would not be surprised though, if older devices do get upgraded to the latest OS - that could mean larger revenues for Google. more folks would be able to use their apps, services, etc. without having to get a new device.
however, after then, they could see how slow their device is, and then they decide to upgrade. but still, worth keeping an eye on.

Google and Verizon both agreeing to do this? Hell will freeze over first.
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From my understanding of several stories posted from Android sites since KitKat was announced, It sounds like either Google is going to update phones to KitKat silently like they have been doing everything else without the help of Samsung or Verizon or perhaps we just get these features without ever actually upgrading to KitKat
Hangouts is supposed to be replacing the stock Messaging app-If Google can do that then why would they need anything from Samsung/Verizon??
http://www.androidpolice.com/2013/1...msmms-integration-video-sharing-capabilities/
http://mobilesyrup.com/2013/10/08/h...uts-will-almost-certainly-integrate-with-sms/
4.4 "Google Experience" Launcher Launcher could be released from the Play Store (which would replace touchwiz??)
http://www.androidpolice.com/2013/1...re-some-things-we-are-expecting-to-see-in-it/

The truth of the matter is this. The Motorola Droid 1, a phone I bought as a media/mp3 player for 50 bucks and fixed up, is working better than a phone I paid 300 new and had nightlies and better support. I loved my charge, the battery sucked. And the phone I use now is the Verizon note 2 and sprint note 3 as a business phone since I now work for the sprint corporation. Do I miss my charge? Yes. Do I wish it had some cyanogenmod support being a phone 1 1/2 years newer than the droid 1? yes. As soon as I can learn how to make a rom for the charge, I plan to make an ics or jb nightly that will support a wifi only support on this relic. It was my first 4g phone. I have it in my desk and feel sad since it helped me achieve so much.

asacado said:
The truth of the matter is this. The Motorola Droid 1, a phone I bought as a media/mp3 player for 50 bucks and fixed up, is working better than a phone I paid 300 new and had nightlies and better support. I loved my charge, the battery sucked. And the phone I use now is the Verizon note 2 and sprint note 3 as a business phone since I now work for the sprint corporation. Do I miss my charge? Yes. Do I wish it had some cyanogenmod support being a phone 1 1/2 years newer than the droid 1? yes. As soon as I can learn how to make a rom for the charge, I plan to make an ics or jb nightly that will support a wifi only support on this relic. It was my first 4g phone. I have it in my desk and feel sad since it helped me achieve so much.
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That's exactly what I was thinking - even if the radios weren't released, having the phone to use over wifi would be good enough for me. I guess that's the question - would it be possible to work up a kitkat ROM that was just purely wifi?

zereoue said:
That's exactly what I was thinking - even if the radios weren't released, having the phone to use over wifi would be good enough for me. I guess that's the question - would it be possible to work up a kitkat ROM that was just purely wifi?
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I've seen an ics rom that was floating around, but support for this phone was always limited. It came and went faster than any other phone I saw. Hell, the bionic I owned had support and nightlies all the way up to the day I got the note 2. I digress. I am looking into it as soon as I can get a linux kitchen set up.

asacado said:
I've seen an ics rom that was floating around, but support for this phone was always limited. It came and went faster than any other phone I saw. Hell, the bionic I owned had support and nightlies all the way up to the day I got the note 2. I digress. I am looking into it as soon as I can get a linux kitchen set up.
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I am learning how to build for android. Starting with the fascinate since there is a lot of support so I can gain familiarity and then I'm going to do a build for the charge. I intend to only use it as a media device. I can't promise or guarantee anything but, I will try my best to deliver a bootable kitkat rom. This is all pretty difficult. We shall see what happens.

pyroman512 said:
I am learning how to build for android. Starting with the fascinate since there is a lot of support so I can gain familiarity and then I'm going to do a build for the charge. I intend to only use it as a media device. I can't promise or guarantee anything but, I will try my best to deliver a bootable kitkat rom. This is all pretty difficult. We shall see what happens.
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I have a Fascinate as well, but haven't installed any of the KK offerings for it yet. I did notice that when updating the Fascinate to KK you have to flash a 4.1 or 4.2 rom first, to get the file system setup, right? Then flash the 4.4 rom. Would the steps be the same for the Charge?

zereoue said:
I have a Fascinate as well, but haven't installed any of the KK offerings for it yet. I did notice that when updating the Fascinate to KK you have to flash a 4.1 or 4.2 rom first, to get the file system setup, right? Then flash the 4.4 rom. Would the steps be the same for the Charge?
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AFAIK you shouldn't have to flash any rom first.. I could be wrong. I don't keep up with all the fascinate development. I did flash a 4.4 rom in the past from cm10.1.
I have a build enviroment set up and I am running into problems building cm11 for the fascinate. I think by the errors that I need to increase the system partition. Because the build always fails at making the system.img. The build guides make it seem like you should run into no errors at all.
I'll start building for the charge soon. I'm too much of a noob to actually develop for it right now, but I think I can atleast boot it once I figure out how to build it.

pyroman512 said:
AFAIK you shouldn't have to flash any rom first.. I could be wrong. I don't keep up with all the fascinate development. I did flash a 4.4 rom in the past from cm10.1.
I have a build enviroment set up and I am running into problems building cm11 for the fascinate. I think by the errors that I need to increase the system partition. Because the build always fails at making the system.img. The build guides make it seem like you should run into no errors at all.
I'll start building for the charge soon. I'm too much of a noob to actually develop for it right now, but I think I can atleast boot it once I figure out how to build it.
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not sure if I mentioned this earlier, but it could be the fact that the charge is based on RFS system (GB 2.3). I believe android went EXT4 with ICS and higher. there are some kernels that can convert the Charge to EXT4 - so not sure if that would help ya.