[Q] Is it possible to get S-OFF on HBoot 1.23? - HTC Sensation

Hello Geeks.
I have recently misled myself by getting my phone back from s-off to s-on before installing the stock RUU on my Sensation XE.
However, i have managed to unbrick the phone and i have a custom ROM running on it while there is S-ON right now.
I was running ICS which means i upgraded the HBOOT from 1.18 to 1.23 and revolutionary does not support this HBOOT version yet.
I want to know if there is a possible way of downgrading the HBOOT version to 1.18 or 1.17 with the S-ON because i cant get S-OFF until its downgraded to something revolutionary supports.
OR
Is there a compatible RUU update utility that will flash my device back to stock and restore everything?
Thanks.

Not until:
1. Revolutionary becomes compatible, or;
2. The ICS RUU is officially leaked, therefore becoming a 'proper' HBOOT in a warranty sense

slimldj said:
Hello Geeks.
I have recently misled myself by getting my phone back from s-off to s-on before installing the stock RUU on my Sensation XE.
However, i have managed to unbrick the phone and i have a custom ROM running on it while there is S-ON right now.
I was running ICS which means i upgraded the HBOOT from 1.18 to 1.23 and revolutionary does not support this HBOOT version yet.
I want to know if there is a possible way of downgrading the HBOOT version to 1.18 or 1.17 with the S-ON because i cant get S-OFF until its downgraded to something revolutionary supports.
OR
Is there a compatible RUU update utility that will flash my device back to stock and restore everything?
Thanks.
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Before upgrading was your phone having 1.52.720.3 as the firmware version??

From now on, yes it IS possible
Sent from my HTC Sensation XE with Beats Audio Z715e using Tapatalk

So why not link to it then?

EddyOS said:
So why not link to it then?
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I'm still writing the guide... trying to make it noob friendly. it includes suicide bricking and downgrading...
detailed guide soon to be here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=23078349 stay tuned

Ah, so you have to brick the phone first to downgrade it? Seems a bit severe but at least it's a method.
Surely if someone was silly enough to S-ON with a new HBOOT they will more than likely properly brick their phone??

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[Q] SagaS HTC Europe 2.10.401.5 update fail

Few days ago I receive new OTA update 2.10.401.5 on my HTC DESIRE S Europe.
But, after i download the update and continue to install the update after the update finished my device stack at the boot splash screen. my HBOOT version is still 6.98.1002. I don't know what could be the problem? I revert it to the old 1.47.401.4 software version via RUU, but I really don't know why the update failed?
Will somebody please answer my question?
another one??
Jesus Christ...could be problem because ur s-off or maybe htc screwed something ..but cache must be cleaned before reboot thats for sure
You use stock ROM before install the new one?
Adidas108 said:
another one??
Jesus Christ...could be problem because ur s-off or maybe htc screwed something ..but cache must be cleaned before reboot thats for sure
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I think it's S-OFF. Because the latest updates request/demands for you to have HBOOT 2.xx.xx for it to work?
that's revolutionary hboot.
ota update need at least hboot 0.98.2000.
Meanwhile in this thread ...
OP tries to install official firmware on his security off'd phone, what a moron.
You need the official hboot (not s-off, not rooted, STOCK, 2.00.0002) to ensure the OTA works properly (it will of course work without it, but when we tried, certain aspects of the ROM didn't work correctly).
ifelse( is_ship_bootloader(getprop("ro.bootloader")) == "t" , < More ways to laugh at OP.
I solve the problem!
Skanob said:
I think it's S-OFF. Because the latest updates request/demands for you to have HBOOT 2.xx.xx for it to work?
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Big thanks to u guys.
I was using this tutorial http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1187231
I had to S-ON back again and after that perform the update.
It's because the HBOOT version is 6..89.*** and it need to be 0.98.0000 or something.
Trust me! It was fully working for me.
Now I have the new stock 2.3.5 rom on my DS with sense 3.0
There one other problem. I couldn't find any tolls which can gain S-OFF on the new HBOOT 2.*****
So at this stage you can't gain root on mine and your DS with the new ROM.
totiadrenalin said:
Big thanks to u guys.
I was using this tutorial http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1187231
I had to S-ON back again and after that perform the update.
It's because the HBOOT version is 6..89.*** and it need to be 0.98.0000 or something.
Trust me! It was fully working for me.
Now I have the new stock 2.3.5 rom on my DS with sense 3.0
There one other problem. I couldn't find any tolls which can gain S-OFF on the new HBOOT 2.*****
So at this stage you can't gain root on mine and your DS with the new ROM.
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Good job!
No S-OFF for that version of hboot. but you can still unlock it to flash customer roms, recovery. radio wouldn't update on mine.

Hboot downgrade

Actually i'm s-on and revolutionary is not working with hboot version 1.27.0000. I want to downgrade hboot version to install a custom rom. And...... My cid isn't 11111111 so i cant install android 2.3.4 with hboot version who is accepted by revolutionary. Thanks !
Revolutionary doesnt support your hboot yet u will have to wait for an update
Sent from my HTC Sensation XE with Beats Audio using XDA
razvanwin95 said:
Actually i'm s-on and revolutionary is not working with hboot version 1.27.0000. I want to downgrade hboot version to install a custom rom. And...... My cid isn't 11111111 so i cant install android 2.3.4 with hboot version who is accepted by revolutionary. Thanks !
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You can't downgrade your hboot with s-on. That really is common knowledge and if you weren't aware of that, I would suggest you do a lot more reading before attempting s-off anyway. I'm sorry to be a **** but you aren't ready.
I'm suggest you to wait until revo come out with the support for your HBOOT version
Hi. Try this method. Read first and if you have any further questions aks there.
joaquinf said:
Hi. Try this method. Read first and if you have any further questions aks there.
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This method is NOT for 1.27 hboot.
Isn't running a GB RUU enough to have everything back to a "S-OFFable" setting?
I used an "old" RUU to go back to a revolutionary compatible hboot on a friend of mine's Incredible S (hboot 2.0 to 1.13) and it worked... Is there something I don't know as the reason for this not to work on the Sensation (surely there is... )?
try to do tacoroot to access revolutionary maby it help

Help with s-on and h-boot 1.27.0000

I've just got a new sensation with s-on and h-boot 1.27.000 and official vodafone ics firmware.
I wanted to frlash arhd 6.6.2, but as long as I got there I have to s.off the phone...
But I cannot s-off the phone if it's h-boot 1.27.0000, so what do I have to do?
Search...read...wait
Sent from my HTC Sensation 4G using xda premium
I've got this message from revolutionary tool:
=============================================
| Revolutionary S-OFF & Recovery Tool 0.4pre4 |
=============================================
Brought to you by AlphaRev & unrEVOked.
Waiting for device...
Found your device: HTC Sensation Z710e (pyramid-1.27.0000, Android: 4.0.3, ROM v
ersion: 3.32.162.11)
Your device: pyramid, with HBOOT 1.27.0000 is not supported at this time.
Press (almost) any key to exit.
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In the faq I've read there is no mention about the unsupported hboot 1.27.0000...
Shall I downgrade the hboot? But how if it's not rooted nor SCID nor s-off..??
zooster said:
I've got this message from revolutionary tool:
In the faq I've read there is no mention about the unsupported hboot 1.27.0000...
Shall I downgrade the hboot? But how if it's not rooted nor SCID nor s-off..??
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Hi,
You are right.
1.27.000 is not currently supported.
You have to wait until it is...
No,there is no eta.
So basically I'm stuck with original firmware?
What can I do then, root? scid..? cwm?
zooster said:
So basically I'm stuck with original firmware?
What can I do then, root? scid..? cwm?
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Hi,
Yes,you can root and install CWM.
But you can only install ROMS with a 3.32 base(latest ICS)
So,6.6.2 is OK
Ok, thank you.
But I tried to flash the CWM taken from the guide thred putting the PG58IMG.zip in the root of the sd.
But when I start the bootloader it says wrong image...
zooster said:
Ok, thank you.
But I tried to flash the CWM taken from the guide thred putting the PG58IMG.zip in the root of the sd.
But when I start the bootloader it says wrong image...
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Hi,
Try THIS ONE
Still says wrong image....
My cid num, got with adb, is: VODAP102.
Should I insert it in android-info?
Should I super cid the phone before cwm?
Youre gonna have to unlock your bootloader by using htc's official method (google it). Then youll be able to install CWM and whatever else. There are limitations, theres a good guide in the development section about htc official bootloader unlocker. Read that before attempting.
zooster said:
Still says wrong image....
My cid num, got with adb, is: VODAP102.
Should I insert it in android-info?
Should I super cid the phone before cwm?
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Hi,
Yes,try it.
malybru said:
Hi,
Yes,try it.
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Just tried and it does not install the CWM. So do I have to unlock the bootloader with the official method?
i have same problem, im new to all this but want to root my phone. I have updated to the new ice cream sandwich through the vodafone over air update. i have looked through step guides but i dont know where to start! i have s-on so how do i get this off or do i need to?
Thanks
zooster said:
Just tried and it does not install the CWM. So do I have to unlock the bootloader with the official method?
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Yes you will have to use the HTC Dev method right now if you want to flash a custom ICS ROM being as those are the only ones you will be able to flash with the Hboot you have. But know this ahead of time the HYC De. Unlock is very different then the Revolutionary unlock. Click the link in my sig to learn mote about the HTc Dev unlock and what it allows you to do. But if I was you I would just wait until Revolutionary supports Hboot 1.27.0000, or someone comes up with a Hboot downgrade for the Sensation cause the HTC Dev method does not fully unlock all portitions except the radio portition like Revolutionary does. Plus it leaves evidence your bootloader has been unlocked so HTC can say your warranty is void. Check out this post to as it gives a little more insight on HTC Dev unlock.
So to root the device I have to CWM it, to CWM it I need to unlock the bootloader?
But, If not rooted, unlocked nor CWModded, can I just install ARHD?
Ok, let's take it the other way round:
My phone is locked, hboot 1.27.0000, S-on, cid VODAP102 and not rooted, but last official stock ics.
Now I want to install last ARHD, what should I do and how??
zooster said:
So to root the device I have to CWM it, to CWM it I need to unlock the bootloader?
But, If not rooted, unlocked nor CWModded, can I just install ARHD?
Ok, let's take it the other way round:
My phone is locked, hboot 1.27.0000, S-on, cid VODAP102 and not rooted, but last official stock ics.
Now I want to install last ARHD, what should I do and how??
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To flash AHRD you will have to have a unlocked bootloader, either by HTC Dev method or by Revolutionary method. Now as stated by you, malybru, and myself we all know Revolutionary is not compatible with Hboot 1.27.0000 (as of right now), which your device currently has. So this leaves only the HTC Dev method. Now I personally agree with others here on XDA, I would normally stay far away from unlocking via HTC Dev. But seeing as you bought your Sensation new with Hboot 1.27.0000, you really have no other alternative but to wait for Revolutionary to update or for some other means of unlocking becomes available. Also if you do manage to downgrade your Hboot you will have to use HTC Dev to do it.
Now I am in no way saying you should use HTC Dev, nor am I advocating HTC Dev. I am just trying to inform you. What you do with your device is your choice and your choice only. But what ever you do, please post back here with your decision and if applicable any results.
Also if you was wondering why you have to use HT Dev to downgrade Hboot, read this post. Yeah I know it is for GB ROMs but I imagine the same probably holds true for ICS. I mean it is the HTC Dev unlock that allowsyou to downgrade in that senario. But what do I know.
T-Macgnolia said:
To flash AHRD you will have to have a unlocked bootloader, either by HTC Dev method or by Revolutionary method. Now as stated by you, malybru, and myself we all know Revolutionary is not compatible with Hboot 1.27.0000 (as of right now), which your device currently has. So this leaves only the HTC Dev method. Now I personally agree with others here on XDA, I would normally stay far away from unlocking via HTC Dev. But seeing as you bought your Sensation new with Hboot 1.27.0000, you really have no other alternative but to wait for Revolutionary to update or for some other means of unlocking becomes available. Also if you do manage to downgrade your Hboot you will have to use HTC Dev to do it.
Now I am in no way saying you should use HTC Dev, nor am I advocating HTC Dev. I am just trying to inform you. What you do with your device is your choice and your choice only. But what ever you do, please post back here with your decision and if applicable any results.
Also if you was wondering why you have to use HT Dev to downgrade Hboot, read this post. Yeah I know it is for GB ROMs but I imagine the same probably holds true for ICS. I mean it is the HTC Dev unlock that allowsyou to downgrade in that senario. But what do I know.
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Do you mean by using Htc dev, i'll be able to downgrade my hboot?
My hboot is 1.27.0000 with S On.
Jalkren said:
Do you mean by using Htc dev, i'll be able to downgrade my hboot?
My hboot is 1.27.0000 with S On.
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Hi,
There is currently no way to downgrade firmware with s-on and hboot 1.27.000
malybru said:
Hi,
There is currently no way to downgrade firmware with s-on and hboot 1.27.000
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Sure, exploit H.Boot 1.27.0000 for S-Off is revolution, new model of HTC phone is same like HTC_One
****ing S-ON policy HTC because you total locked us
And that is why HTC always following behind Samsung nowadays
I'm waiting XDA revolution
Hi,
I'm new to this forum and new nothing about rooting until a few days ago...quickly discovered the fact that Revolution does not support 1.27.
I unlocked with HTC DEV, ran recovery-clockwork-touch-5.8.0.9-pyramid.img using Fastboot CLI.
After that I backed up my stock Vodafone ICS ROM using CWM then switched to the XDA guide for rooting with su-2.3.6.3 and followed rest of XDA guides for installing a ROM (really useful guides - Thanks!!)
Within an hour I had gone from stock Vodafone ICS to Virtuous Inquisition-v4.0.1
I'll admit I got hooked up on flashing recovery and was given some guidance by a friendly soul but figured the rest out from this forum..

[Q] S-OFF for Hboot 2.00.2002 ICS ?

Hi,
I am trying to S-OFF my desire S which got OTA update to latest ICS. Now my Hboot is 2.00.2002 and software version is 14.01.401.2 710RD.
I tried to s-off using the tacroot and zegRush but didn't worked. Any suggestions?
Thanks
Lhrt
Die you try following the guides in this forum to downgrade hboot?
Sent from my Desire S using xda app-developers app
lhrt said:
Hi,
I am trying to S-OFF my desire S which got OTA update to latest ICS. Now my Hboot is 2.00.2002 and software version is 14.01.401.2 710RD.
I tried to s-off using the tacroot and zegRush but didn't worked. Any suggestions?
Thanks
Lhrt
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I'm not a pro, but I think you'll need to unlock by HTC DEV and install root access, change the software version with misc_version, relock your phone and flash old RUU with hboot 0.98.0000.
This should enable you to unlock your phone by revolutionary like described in the dev section and get S-OFF...
I'm lucky that i didn't flash my phone with the latest RUU, so i didn't need to unlock by HTC DEV.
Until now, no posibility is known to unlock without HTC DEV...

HBOOT 2.02 can S-OFF ??

Can I S-OFF the hboot 2.02 ??
I mean this guide: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1399331 will work for my HBOOT 2.02 ?
No, because zergRush won't work. You'll have to unlock your bootloader to gain any sort of root.
Edit: this guide would work
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1318919
To S-OFF you first have to downgrade to an older HBOOT, which is done by gaining some form of root, running misc_version and then an older RUU. After you're S-OFF you can put on a newer (S-OFFed) HBOOT if you don't want Revolutionary's default one.
As long as you're running gingerbread (i.e. Android 2.3.x, and not ICS which is 4.0.4), you can get temproot. See my signature for more information.
paulie-uk said:
To S-OFF you first have to downgrade to an older HBOOT, which is done by gaining some form of root, running misc_version and then an older RUU. After you're S-OFF you can put on a newer (S-OFFed) HBOOT if you don't want Revolutionary's default one.
As long as you're running gingerbread (i.e. Android 2.3.x, and not ICS which is 4.0.4), you can get temproot. See my signature for more information.
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S-OFF is something I too want to do to my HTC Desire S, looking in your signature you are running 2.00.2002.
I am on a newer HBOOT the 2.02.0002.
I understand you have to downgrade first, and then S-OFF, but after S-OFF can I then flash the ICS RUU and get it back to 2.02.0002?
Will it still say Revolutionary? or go back to saying Unlocked (As I am HTC DEV Unlocked).
My main concern is that I don't like the idea of having 0.98, on there after, or having a fake number 6.98 or 7.00.2000 etc.
There seems to be a lot of people still on 2.00.X and not on the 2.02.X.
Are you S-OFF paulie-uk?
readmanr said:
S-OFF is something I too want to do to my HTC Desire S, looking in your signature you are running 2.00.2002.
I am on a newer HBOOT the 2.02.0002.
[...]
Are you S-OFF paulie-uk?
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I'm hboot S-OFF (what revolutionary can provide), not radio S-OFF (sadly the only way to do this on SAGA is with some extra equipment). I believe the 2.02.0002 hboot came in the ICS RUU, it's just got a bit tighter security, I don't think the partitions have changed since the last version (someone correct me if I'm wrong here).
readmanr said:
There seems to be a lot of people still on 2.00.X and not on the 2.02.X.
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I'm using an S-OFFed ENGineering hboot, where you see people on the other version (2.00.0002) it is (usually) the stock SHIP hboot.
readmanr said:
I understand you have to downgrade first, and then S-OFF
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You will have to downgrade. Sadly this will wipe your phone.
readmanr said:
but after S-OFF can I then flash the ICS RUU and get it back to 2.02.0002?
Will it still say Revolutionary? or go back to saying Unlocked (As I am HTC DEV Unlocked).
My main concern is that I don't like the idea of having 0.98, on there after, or having a fake number 6.98 or 7.00.2000 etc.
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After you're S-OFF, I'd suggest you try a custom ROM and not flashing the 4.0.4 RUU (it's a buggy experimental version). Flashing an official RUU is pretty much how you return to stock, so it would most likely overwrite your S-OFFed hboot with a S-ON stock one. Remember, the S-OFF on our device is done in the hboot and not the radio.
When you're S-OFFed the first hboot you will have will be Revolutionary's 6.98 one. You can change this after.
I've found that 2.00.2002 works with all of the ROMs I've tried (which have been based on gingerbread, ICS and JellyBean). The "fake number" ones are there to make flashing a S-ON hboot more difficult, meaning that an OTA update wouldn't undo it. However, it is quite obvious if you were to send your phone in for repairs (still in warranty!?!?!) which is why a few of the tech-savvy who want S-OFF put on the ENG hboots instead.
If you want to overwrite Revolutionary's hboot with a different one with a lower version number, you will need to use dd and if it goes wrong it will brick your phone. You can find the ENG hboots on cyannogenmod's wiki if you don't trust the files I provide in other posts, but I strongly suggest you read about what you're going to do until you're comfortable with it before taking action.
Remember that after changing a hboot or radio, you should always re-wipe and re-flash your phone as partitions can move and always check the md5 first.

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