HBOOT 2.02 can S-OFF ??

HBOOT 2.02 can S-OFF ?? - HTC Desire S

Can I S-OFF the hboot 2.02 ??
I mean this guide: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1399331 will work for my HBOOT 2.02 ?

No, because zergRush won't work. You'll have to unlock your bootloader to gain any sort of root.
Edit: this guide would work
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1318919

To S-OFF you first have to downgrade to an older HBOOT, which is done by gaining some form of root, running misc_version and then an older RUU. After you're S-OFF you can put on a newer (S-OFFed) HBOOT if you don't want Revolutionary's default one.
As long as you're running gingerbread (i.e. Android 2.3.x, and not ICS which is 4.0.4), you can get temproot. See my signature for more information.

paulie-uk said:
To S-OFF you first have to downgrade to an older HBOOT, which is done by gaining some form of root, running misc_version and then an older RUU. After you're S-OFF you can put on a newer (S-OFFed) HBOOT if you don't want Revolutionary's default one.
As long as you're running gingerbread (i.e. Android 2.3.x, and not ICS which is 4.0.4), you can get temproot. See my signature for more information.
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S-OFF is something I too want to do to my HTC Desire S, looking in your signature you are running 2.00.2002.
I am on a newer HBOOT the 2.02.0002.
I understand you have to downgrade first, and then S-OFF, but after S-OFF can I then flash the ICS RUU and get it back to 2.02.0002?
Will it still say Revolutionary? or go back to saying Unlocked (As I am HTC DEV Unlocked).
My main concern is that I don't like the idea of having 0.98, on there after, or having a fake number 6.98 or 7.00.2000 etc.
There seems to be a lot of people still on 2.00.X and not on the 2.02.X.
Are you S-OFF paulie-uk?

readmanr said:
S-OFF is something I too want to do to my HTC Desire S, looking in your signature you are running 2.00.2002.
I am on a newer HBOOT the 2.02.0002.
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Are you S-OFF paulie-uk?
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I'm hboot S-OFF (what revolutionary can provide), not radio S-OFF (sadly the only way to do this on SAGA is with some extra equipment). I believe the 2.02.0002 hboot came in the ICS RUU, it's just got a bit tighter security, I don't think the partitions have changed since the last version (someone correct me if I'm wrong here).
readmanr said:
There seems to be a lot of people still on 2.00.X and not on the 2.02.X.
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I'm using an S-OFFed ENGineering hboot, where you see people on the other version (2.00.0002) it is (usually) the stock SHIP hboot.
readmanr said:
I understand you have to downgrade first, and then S-OFF
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You will have to downgrade. Sadly this will wipe your phone.
readmanr said:
but after S-OFF can I then flash the ICS RUU and get it back to 2.02.0002?
Will it still say Revolutionary? or go back to saying Unlocked (As I am HTC DEV Unlocked).
My main concern is that I don't like the idea of having 0.98, on there after, or having a fake number 6.98 or 7.00.2000 etc.
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After you're S-OFF, I'd suggest you try a custom ROM and not flashing the 4.0.4 RUU (it's a buggy experimental version). Flashing an official RUU is pretty much how you return to stock, so it would most likely overwrite your S-OFFed hboot with a S-ON stock one. Remember, the S-OFF on our device is done in the hboot and not the radio.
When you're S-OFFed the first hboot you will have will be Revolutionary's 6.98 one. You can change this after.
I've found that 2.00.2002 works with all of the ROMs I've tried (which have been based on gingerbread, ICS and JellyBean). The "fake number" ones are there to make flashing a S-ON hboot more difficult, meaning that an OTA update wouldn't undo it. However, it is quite obvious if you were to send your phone in for repairs (still in warranty!?!?!) which is why a few of the tech-savvy who want S-OFF put on the ENG hboots instead.
If you want to overwrite Revolutionary's hboot with a different one with a lower version number, you will need to use dd and if it goes wrong it will brick your phone. You can find the ENG hboots on cyannogenmod's wiki if you don't trust the files I provide in other posts, but I strongly suggest you read about what you're going to do until you're comfortable with it before taking action.
Remember that after changing a hboot or radio, you should always re-wipe and re-flash your phone as partitions can move and always check the md5 first.

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hboot version? is s-off?

i have a tmous htc sensation. was at hboot 1.17.0018. i am now at 1.17.1111. i read the guide on how to s-off and it says i need to be at 1.17.1011. did i do something wrong? it says s-off but its no at hboot 1.17.1011. is this normal

i experienced almost the same thing, i updated with RUU 1.45 which put the hboot to 1.18.0000, but when i flashed a new rom, its went to 1.17.1111 still s-off for both, and no issues in between

than you very much. i will move forward.
(thanks button hit)

Iirc s-off is actually a radio flag and nothing to do with the bootloader.
Revolutionary's hboots (1011/1111) have the flash ability which is what is desired.
Sent from my HTC Sensation.

thanks for the info (button hit.)
this my first android phone so some of this stuff is new to me. like i said i just followed the guide and it said .1011 and thats what i was expecting. but this is good for future reference

[Q] difference between hboot versions

Dears,
Sorry for the silly question but i haven't enough experience in this field
what is the difference between hboot version 0.98.2000 and 2.00.002 and 7.xxx
i have htc desire s with s-off and hboot 0.98.2000 , is there a need to upgrade ?? and what will be the benefits and disadvantages ?
sorry alot , and thanks in advance

AW: [Q] difference between hboot versions
The hboots based on the 2.00.0002 (2.00.2002 and 7.00.1002) have an extra partition (split from the /cache partition) for /system/lib. Most custom Roms ignore this partition, so that they work on any hboot version, but some ROMs require one of these hboots (this would always be stated in the op).
2.02.0002 is the hboot version that came with the ics ruu, and has a different partition number for the extra partition.

Many thanks for your illustration , i really got the point
so for me as indicated above for my boot version , i have already installed ViperSaga_2.1.3 ROM and working fine for me , this is to ensure that there is no need to upgrade my hboot version ,, am i right ??

AW: [Q] difference between hboot versions
Yes, that's correct. When you choose to install a new Rom, remember to check whether it needs a new hboot version (if it doesn't say anything you can assume it will work with any hboot).
Or you could install a newer hboot (2.00.2002 or 7.00.1002) next time you change Rom anyway, then you won't need to worry about it any more.

shetoshandasa said:
Dears,
Sorry for the silly question but i haven't enough experience in this field
what is the difference between hboot version 0.98.2000 and 2.00.002 and 7.xxx
i have htc desire s with s-off and hboot 0.98.2000 , is there a need to upgrade ?? and what will be the benefits and disadvantages ?
sorry alot , and thanks in advance
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I would recommend changing your hboot from revolutionary.0.98 to say the 7.xxx as there seems to be some issues in the revolutionary.0.98 not clearing data properly during a wipe affecting things like wifi etc.
“To live is the rarest thing in the world. Most people exist, that is all.”
― Oscar Wilde

Big thanks , i will proceed in upgrading my hboot

7.xxx is revolutionary version of 2.00.2002 with number higher than (revolutionary s-off) 6.xx so that you could easily flash it via fastboot. If you have 0.98 then you can flash 2.00.2002 shipped with official ics update. Some say that 7.xx have some issues with fastboot commands, with 2.00.2002 everything work just fine.
To be precise You wil not boot Sense 4 roms when using hboot 0.98 and 6.xx.

AW: [Q] difference between hboot versions
amdr said:
7.xxx is revolutionary version of 2.00.2002 with number higher than (revolutionary s-off) 6.xx so that you could easily flash it via fastboot. If you have 0.98 then you can flash 2.00.2002 shipped with official ics update. Some say that 7.xx have some issues with fastboot commands, with 2.00.2002 everything work just fine.
To be precise You wil not boot Sense 4 roms when using hboot 0.98 and 6.xx.
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No, 2.00.2002 is basically the same as 7.00.1002, main difference is the version number. They're both based on 2.00.0002, which came with the ota/ruu s starting 2.x. The ics ruu came with 2.02.0002.
Edit: that's also not correct. Most sense 4 roms work with any hboot version.

teadrinker said:
No, 2.00.2002 is basically the same as 7.00.1002, main difference is the version number. They're both based on 2.00.0002, which came with the ota/ruu s starting 2.x. The ics ruu came with 2.02.0002.
Edit: that's also not correct. Most sense 4 roms work with any hboot version.
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The partition only really makes a difference in odexed roms i believe.
“To live is the rarest thing in the world. Most people exist, that is all.”
― Oscar Wilde

AW: [Q] difference between hboot versions
Well, odexed roms take more space on /system, which is why thantos2024 moved /system/lib to the new partition, to have enough space on /system.

I want to upgrade my HBoot. Not sure which version to go with, what are the benefits of 7.00.1002 over 2.00.002 or 2.02.0002? Will it make my phone S-ON if I do? I only use Andromadus AOSP and that doesn't require either of these HBoots but I'd rather upgrade just in case I use something in the future that requires either of them.

If you're s-off you can upgrade to either 7.00.1002 or 2.00.2002 (which are practically the same).
HBOOTs 2.00.002 and 2.02.0002 are the ones that came with ruus, the only way to install them (if there were any point) is to flash an RUU (and make your phone s-on).

teadrinker said:
If you're s-off you can upgrade to either 7.00.1002 or 2.00.2002 (which are practically the same).
HBOOTs 2.00.002 and 2.02.0002 are the ones that came with ruus, the only way to install them (if there were any point) is to flash an RUU (and make your phone s-on).
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Okay, so flashing 2.00.2002 will work and won't disturb my S-OFF? I want to be absolutely sure before I do it.

If you're on 0.98.x, yes. If you're on 6.98.x, it won't update because of the version number (you can still flash 2.00.2002 using the 'dd if= of=' method) .

[SOLVED] Upgrading Firmware + hboot with S-OFF

Right now I'm using the latest ViperROM 2.2.0 with S-OFF, Hboot 1.06 (flashed via S-OFF) and SuperCID 111111. The phone is an unbranded, european, unlocked, non-tmobile phone. Now I was looking into using the newest CM10.1, but for this I'd need to upgrade my radio (and Hboot?).
I haven't had the time to follow all the events. When trying to read what way I should follow, I stumbleupon bricked devices and people who don't have problems. So I actually don't know what to believe and what to do.
Could anyone point me out what I should do with my device do minimize the risk of bricking it while upgrading? Would have followed the instructions in this post http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2322755, but the 2nd post makes me anxious.
Edit 2013-07-10: I've solved my issues and am now on Hboot 2.15 with S-OFF (didn't lose it with the upgrade) and CM10.1! See the last post for details.

m1schi said:
Right now I'm using the latest ViperROM 2.2.0 with S-OFF, Hboot 1.06 (flashed via S-OFF) and SuperCID 111111. The phone is an unbranded, european, unlocked, non-tmobile phone. Now I was looking into using the newest CM10.1, but for this I'd need to upgrade my radio (and Hboot?).
I haven't had the time to follow all the events. When trying to read what way I should follow, I stumbleupon bricked devices and people who don't have problems. So I actually don't know what to believe and what to do.
Could anyone point me out what I should do with my device do minimize the risk of bricking it while upgrading? Would have followed the instructions in this post http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2322755, but the 2nd post makes me anxious.
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Since you are already S-OFF there is no need to upgrade your H-Boot. That does not effect the rom at all. With the Radio, when you flash the Rom it will automatically change the radio to the one preset by CM10.1 for the Rom. If you live in an area not covered by the radio, with S-OFF, you can flash any radio that you would like that is covered where you live and gives you the best service for your Provider.

m1schi said:
Right now I'm using the latest ViperROM 2.2.0 with S-OFF, Hboot 1.06 (flashed via S-OFF) and SuperCID 111111. The phone is an unbranded, european, unlocked, non-tmobile phone. Now I was looking into using the newest CM10.1, but for this I'd need to upgrade my radio (and Hboot?).
I haven't had the time to follow all the events. When trying to read what way I should follow, I stumbleupon bricked devices and people who don't have problems. So I actually don't know what to believe and what to do.
Could anyone point me out what I should do with my device do minimize the risk of bricking it while upgrading? Would have followed the instructions in this post http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2322755, but the 2nd post makes me anxious.
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Change your cid back to your og HTC one.
Supercid has lost most it value since your soff. You can change it whenever you want.
Ehh the low hboot you have has almost no added use since your s-off.
Forget about needing a new radio, who told you that? You can flash whatever radio you want.
You need a update hboot and firmware.
New kernels require that. Not radio.
Easiest way. Run latest ruu with your original unbranded HTC cid. No need to relock or s-on. Afterward custom recovery and start flashing.
Verstuurd van mijn One S met Tapatalk

Thanks for the answers!
Still I'm puzzled a bit: I need HBOOT 2.15 for the newer ROMS using the newest Kernel? Meaning I can just update the HBOOT version via the command line, because of my S-OFF and flash the ROM I want? No need to use all the procedures you find around here? I'll preserve my S-OFF?

m1schi said:
Thanks for the answers!
Still I'm puzzled a bit: I need HBOOT 2.15 for the newer ROMS using the newest Kernel? Meaning I can just update the HBOOT version via the command line, because of my S-OFF and flash the ROM I want? No need to use all the procedures you find around here? I'll preserve my S-OFF?
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if flashing a ruu s-off will be preserved.
so
change to your original cid with fastboot command.
flash a ruu wich is/came originaly with your cid/device (lower version is no problem, if you cant find the jb one of your device),
then do otas till your on JB.
the flash stock recovery, then custom rom. finished.

m1schi said:
Right now I'm using the latest ViperROM 2.2.0 with S-OFF, Hboot 1.06 (flashed via S-OFF) and SuperCID 111111. The phone is an unbranded, european, unlocked, non-tmobile phone. Now I was looking into using the newest CM10.1, but for this I'd need to upgrade my radio (and Hboot?).
I haven't had the time to follow all the events. When trying to read what way I should follow, I stumbleupon bricked devices and people who don't have problems. So I actually don't know what to believe and what to do.
Could anyone point me out what I should do with my device do minimize the risk of bricking it while upgrading? Would have followed the instructions in this post http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2322755, but the 2nd post makes me anxious.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=43400980&postcount=22

vatsaman said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=43400980&postcount=22
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That's what I'm wondering about: Everyone seems to tell me some other way to upgrade my phone.
You tried to upgrade your phone via RUU?
There seems to be a method without the RUU, just fastboot: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=42985992#post42985992
This should get me onto the newest HBOOT and let me use AOSP ROMS with 3.4 Kernel, without loosing S-OFF or bricking my device?
Edit 2013-07-10: I've used this method to go from my hboot 1.06 to hboot 2.15, while still having S-OFF.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=42985992#post42985992

[Q] How to S-Off/ SuperCID? Hboot 2.1.5

I have a HTC One XL(no AT&T logo) that seems to have Hboot 2.1.5 (I went into the bootloader menu that appears when you vol + power on). I recently sent in my One X (with Tegra processor) in for warranty and somehow got a One XL back, so I don't know much about the phone. It came with Sense 5 and JB 4.2.2. I've already unlocked the bootloader via htcdev.com and flashed TWRP 2.6.3.0 recovery, and through that I flashed superuser.zip, which worked because I was able to use Titanium backup.
I wanted to follow the Facepalm S-Off guide ( http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2155071 ) so that I could install a custom rom (LiquidSmooth). That guide requires my phone to be Super-CID, but I am unsure how to do that on my phone because it has Hboot 2.1.5 and all the one click installers specify hboot 2.1.4 or some AT&T firmware version that I don't know whether my phone has or not.
So does anybody know how to SuperCID or S-off my phone?
Thanks in advance

Unfortunately the 2.15 hboot has write protection enabled, which means it isn't possible for you to get SuperCID at the moment. Obviously that means you can't get s-off. I believe this problem is being worked on but we have no ETA yet. You should be able to flash most ROMs without s-off though, as you are on new enough firmware.
Sent from my Evita

timmaaa said:
Unfortunately the 2.15 hboot has write protection enabled, which means it isn't possible for you to get SuperCID at the moment. Obviously that means you can't get s-off. I believe this problem is being worked on but we have no ETA yet. You should be able to flash most ROMs without s-off though, as you are on new enough firmware.
Sent from my Evita
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i dont know how but i am on 2.15 and i do have supercid and soff!?

You already had SuperCID and s-off before you upgraded to the 2.15 firmware.
Sent from my Evita

[Q] Update to 4.4 ROM from 4.2 with old hboot

Hi guys,
I am on an old JellyBAM ROM (7.7.0), based on CyanogenMod 10.1.0 (Android 4.2.2). I want to try KitKat roms (4.4.2) such as latest CM 11 nightlies etc. So I want to know what all I need to do to get my phone ready to install 4.4 roms.
Some background:
I unlocked my bootloader using HTC Dev Token ID method, installed CWM recovery, and flashed my current and past roms that way - it has been around a year since I made any updates to my phone. So I think some of my firmware is not current enough to support 4.4 roms.
I am S-ON.
My main concern is that I have hboot 1.08. All the guides I see talk about either hboot 2.15 or 2.16.
Recovery: CWM v5.8.3.1
Phone is carrier-free Ville S4 processor. Currently service provider is Koodo - a division of Telus (in Canada).
CID: ROGER001
Radio: 0.16.31501S.02
From the reading that I did, what I understood is:
First I should S-OFF (to make things easier for any future playing around). I was thinking of using the Firewater S-OFF Tool (from http://www.androidpolice.com/2014/0...f-tool-will-unlock-any-htc-device-in-moments/)
I need to update my hboot. This is the step I am most worried about, as I have never flashed a RUU before, and that's what most guides say to do. This thread says to just run the JellyBean RUU [http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2524306]. Would you say that's a pretty safe bet, or is that outdated advice/information?
Once I go S-OFF and update hboot to 2.15, can I just flash CWM (or TWRP) recovery, and flash CM 11 nightlies?
Thanks a lot!

arjundas86 said:
Hi guys,
I am on an old JellyBAM ROM (7.7.0), based on CyanogenMod 10.1.0 (Android 4.2.2). I want to try KitKat roms (4.4.2) such as latest CM 11 nightlies etc. So I want to know what all I need to do to get my phone ready to install 4.4 roms.
Some background:
I unlocked my bootloader using HTC Dev Token ID method, installed CWM recovery, and flashed my current and past roms that way - it has been around a year since I made any updates to my phone. So I think some of my firmware is not current enough to support 4.4 roms.
I am S-ON.
My main concern is that I have hboot 1.08. All the guides I see talk about either hboot 2.15 or 2.16.
Recovery: CWM v5.8.3.1
Phone is carrier-free Ville S4 processor.
Radio: 0.16.31501S.02
From the reading that I did, what I understood is:
First I should S-OFF (to make things easier for any future playing around). I was thinking of using the Firewater S-OFF Tool (from http://www.androidpolice.com/2014/0...f-tool-will-unlock-any-htc-device-in-moments/)
I need to update my hboot. This is the step I am most worried about, as I have never flashed a RUU before, and that's what most guides say to do. This thread says to just run the JellyBean RUU [http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2524306]. Would you say that's a pretty safe bet, or is that outdated advice/information?
Once I go S-OFF and update hboot to 2.15, can I just flash CWM (or TWRP) recovery, and flash CM 11 nightlies?
Thanks a lot!
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Whats your CID?
You don't need to be S-OFF if theres a matching RUU for you BUT you cant install lower HBoot versions while you're S-ON. Flashing a custom recovery is also possible while you're S-ON

LS.xD said:
Whats your CID?
You don't need to be S-OFF if theres a matching RUU for you BUT you cant install lower HBoot versions while you're S-ON. Flashing a custom recovery is also possible while you're S-ON
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I am not sure - I have never checked it before.
I ran CID Getter app, and it's supposed to show me CID in red at the top, but it shows nothing. Some of the app comments say that if the CID is not shown, it means I am SuperCID. I'm not sure about that.
I'm at work, but when I get home, I'll run the fastboot command to find out the CID. I didn't do anything intentionally to get SuperCID, so is it likely that I might be SuperCID? How would I know?

arjundas86 said:
I am not sure - I have never checked it before.
I ran CID Getter app, and it's supposed to show me CID in red at the top, but it shows nothing. Some of the app comments say that if the CID is not shown, it means I am SuperCID. I'm not sure about that.
I'm at work, but when I get home, I'll run the fastboot command to find out the CID. I didn't do anything intentionally to get SuperCID, so is it likely that I might be SuperCID? How would I know?
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SuperCID = 11111111
Other CIDs are listed here: HTC CID LIST
You can easiliy read the CID with WinDroid Toolkit 2.0

LS.xD said:
SuperCID = 11111111
Other CIDs are listed here: HTC CID LIST
You can easiliy read the CID with WinDroid Toolkit 2.0
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Thanks for the toolkit.
cid: ROGER001
Btw, what's the purpose of going SuperCID?
Also, I don't want to install lower hboot. I am on hboot 1.08 and I think I need to install hboot 2.15. Right?
I guess S-OFF isn't absolutely necessary, but would be nice to have. Would you recommend using the S-OFF command from the toolkit you linked?

I Don't know which s-off Method is Best for your cid. Have you found matching RUU with hboot 2.15?
With superCID you can switch to other CIDs e.g. for unbranding your device Also it's needed for "Facepalm S-OFF" (Was the only working method for me)
Sent from my loved HTC One S using (most time buggy) Tapatalk

LS.xD said:
I Don't know which s-off Method is Best for your cid. Have you found matching RUU with hboot 2.15?
Sent from my loved HTC One S using (most time buggy) Tapatalk
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I have seen a few options for RUU, but not sure which one I should use. I don't quite understand the relationships between phone parameters and which RUU to get.
The guide that I linked to in my first post, that I was thinking of using says the following one: (but they don't know what my CID is)
RUU_Ville_U_JB_45_S_TMOUS_3.14.531.11_Radio_1.13.5 0.05.31_10.30.50.08L_release_309489_signed_ICS_2.exe
Androidruu.com has several other RUUs. I guess since my CID says Rogers, I should use one of the Rogers ones?
RUU_Ville_U_Rogers_WWE_1.70.631.1_Radio_0.16.31501S.02_10.18.31501S.08L_release_254139_signed.exe - 2013-01-29
or
RUU_Ville_U_Rogers_WWE_1.84.631.9_Radio_0.17.31501S.10_2_10.27.31501S.10L_release_265373_signed.exe - 2013-04-29
But my current provider is Koodo, which is a subdivision of Telus. So should I use one of the Telus RUUs?
RUU_Ville_U_TELUS_WWE_1.70.661.1_Radio_0.16.31501S.02_10.18.31501S.08L_release_254554_signed.exe - 2013-01-29
or
RUU_Ville_U_TELUS_WWE_1.84.661.9_Radio_0.17.31501S.10_2_10.27.31501S.10L_release_265367_signed.exe - 2013-04-29
I would appreciate any insights into what would be the applicable RUU?
Thanks.

arjundas86 said:
I have seen a few options for RUU, but not sure which one I should use. I don't quite understand the relationships between phone parameters and which RUU to get.
The guide that I linked to in my first post, that I was thinking of using says the following one: (but they don't know what my CID is)
RUU_Ville_U_JB_45_S_TMOUS_3.14.531.11_Radio_1.13.5 0.05.31_10.30.50.08L_release_309489_signed_ICS_2.exe
Androidruu.com has several other RUUs. I guess since my CID says Rogers, I should use one of the Rogers ones?
RUU_Ville_U_Rogers_WWE_1.70.631.1_Radio_0.16.31501S.02_10.18.31501S.08L_release_254139_signed.exe - 2013-01-29
or
RUU_Ville_U_Rogers_WWE_1.84.631.9_Radio_0.17.31501S.10_2_10.27.31501S.10L_release_265373_signed.exe - 2013-04-29
But my current provider is Koodo, which is a subdivision of Telus. So should I use one of the Telus RUUs?
RUU_Ville_U_TELUS_WWE_1.70.661.1_Radio_0.16.31501S.02_10.18.31501S.08L_release_254554_signed.exe - 2013-01-29
or
RUU_Ville_U_TELUS_WWE_1.84.661.9_Radio_0.17.31501S.10_2_10.27.31501S.10L_release_265367_signed.exe - 2013-04-29
I would appreciate any insights into what would be the applicable RUU?
Thanks.
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As long as you are S-ON you can only flash matching RUUs (Rogers). You will need to gain S-OFF to reach HBoot 2.15 as it seems.

LS.xD said:
As long as you are S-ON you can only flash matching RUUs (Rogers). You will need to gain S-OFF to reach HBoot 2.15 as it seems.
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Okay. It seems that the best path forward for me is to S-OFF using the Firewater tool (since my device is HTCDEV unlocked/rooted, and having S-OFF means I won't need to unlock bootloader again after running RUU).
Then I'll run the newest Rogers RUU from AndroidRUU.
At this point, I should be on hboot 2.15 and still bootloader unlocked, right?
If I'm right about all that, then I should just have to install a custom recovery and be able to flash the 4.4 ROM I want. Correct?

arjundas86 said:
Okay. It seems that the best path forward for me is to S-OFF using the Firewater tool (since my device is HTCDEV unlocked/rooted, and having S-OFF means I won't need to unlock bootloader again after running RUU).
Then I'll run the newest Rogers RUU from AndroidRUU.
At this point, I should be on hboot 2.15 and still bootloader unlocked, right?
If I'm right about all that, then I should just have to install a custom recovery and be able to flash the 4.4 ROM I want. Correct?
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Newest Rogers RUU ist HBoot 1.84 as it seems. Once you're S-OFF and have superCID you need to change your CID to unbranded (HTC__001) and flash e.g. unbranded RUU with HBoot 2.15.

LS.xD said:
Newest Rogers RUU ist HBoot 1.84 as it seems. Once you're S-OFF and have superCID you need to change your CID to unbranded (HTC__001) and flash e.g. unbranded RUU with HBoot 2.15.
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Hmm... I see. Things are getting clearer, but still a little confused about SuperCID stuff.
Will running Tmobile US RUU work? That's the one from the guide I read in my first post. He suggests that RUU to get hboot 2.15.
Once I get S-OFF, then I should get SuperCID. I thought with SuperCID (i.e. 11111111), I can run any RUU. Or should I still manually set CID to HTC__001 before running Tmobile US RUU?

arjundas86 said:
Hmm... I see. Things are getting clearer, but still a little confused about SuperCID stuff.
Will running Tmobile US RUU work? That's the one from the guide I read in my first post. He suggests that RUU to get hboot 2.15.
Once I get S-OFF, then I should get SuperCID. I thought with SuperCID (i.e. 11111111), I can run any RUU. Or should I still manually set CID to HTC__001 before running Tmobile US RUU?
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To run a RUU NOT MATCHING your stock CID you need S-OFF // SuperCID. You cant install TMobile RUU at first :/
I would act like this:
Run latest Rogers RUU --> READ FACEPALM GUIDE CAREFULLY. There is how to gain SuperCID and then S-OFF. Once done you can change CID to whatever you want and run a (unbranded) RUU with HBoot 2.15.
But that is just what i thought about it. I suggest to let someone else CONFIRM the way suggested by me first.

Have you tried anything yet? If NO. then STOP. Don't do anything and don't upgrade your firmware/hboot yet. It could happen you won't need this. I am on hboot 1.06 and I'm running fine any ROM including KitKat ones. That requirement for a higher firmware is coming from an old issue that was before with earlier Android versions (from the versions that used 3.4.x kernel and up), making SOME phones to misbehave (reboots or other issues). It could be that your phone handles it right and in that case you won't need to upgrade if you don't want to.
WHY? You should not only upgrade your firmware but also to S-Off. It is not required but it makes your life easier. And these procedures bear some risks even if they were successful for others. And why should you risk anything unless it's mandatory? The point is you have a hboot lower than 1.09. There are not to many left and people are tempted to forget, but hboot lower than 1.09 means you're like an S-Off. You can flash radios and kernels from recovery as on any other S-Off device. Only thing you can't do is to remove those red letters from the boot splash screen...that is you can't flash another firmware. But hopefully you might not need it.
OK. All these being said, I would suggest you to first try to see if the ROM works OK on your phone like it is and only if it doesn't you should think about S-Off, upgrading firmware and things like this.
Now, what you have to do is download the ROM you would like...any ROM, and before flashing it follow my guide HERE to change the updater script in the ROM's ZIP to allow flashing the ROM on lower hboots. It is very easy, I do this usually in 1 min, I would suggest to use method 2 that's much easier than to follow all detailed steps in method 1. If you have any questions or unclear things ask but I think it's easy enough.
If after this you cannot boot the ROM or have it working, then you can think of upgrading firmware

@Rapier
thank you for the provided help as usual
Are there any advantages by unsing HBoot 1.06?? I'm on 2.15 // S-OFF // SuperCID // No red letters // "tampered" removed

LS.xD said:
...Are there any advantages by unsing HBoot 1.06?? I'm on 2.15 // S-OFF // SuperCID // No red letters // "tampered" removed
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For you? NO. You're better than me
The story is like this. I bought the phone in 2012. At that time, the highest hboot was 1.14 I believe (don't remember exactly) and there was no S-Off method available (they appeared later). There was something else tho. The lower hboots (1.09 and lower) permitted to write in the kernel partition or radio partition like an S-Off device. HTC then covered this in the higher hboots. So even if there was no S-Off method, there was a downgrade method that was used to downgrade the hboot from whatever you had to 1.09 or below. I downgraded mine to 1.06...don't ask why I didn't choose 1.09, I thought that was the RUU I considered to be fine for me at that time.
Now being on hboot 1.06 I can do anything except I cannot flash firmwares directly. So I cannot flash a new hboot with red letters removed for example. But I don't care about this...I can flash radios or kernels or splash screens like any S-Off user. The procedure for getting latest firmware and S-Off seems a little bit risky and I've read about alot of issues or problems from people who failed or tried countless times to reach that. So I've asked myself why should I do that if I don't need it?
Then it came the rumor and there were some brick cases of devices that were having some Android 4.3 ROMs and were not on latest firmware (in the meantime 2.13 and 2.15 hboots arise and also the S-Off method). It proved to be not the firmware fault after all. But CM team has included a check in the updater script of the ROM ZIP, to validate if the hboot was 2.13 or 2.15...if not, the flash won't happen. It's a simple assert command present there at the beginning of the script that do the check. As CM team was the pioneer in having the newest Android version ROMs available, everybody based initially their ROMs/builds on CM...so the check in the script was automatically carried over to all the ROMs out there. And it's still here.
As I've tested and I could run fine those ROM's (by removing the check before flash), I noticed that this requirement does not apply to everyone. Some could run fine the ROMs even if they're not on the "latest" firmware.
So that's why I am on 1.06...cause I don't know why should I go through some risky procedures when I don't need to.

Rapier said:
Have you tried anything yet? If NO. then STOP. Don't do anything and don't upgrade your firmware/hboot yet. It could happen you won't need this. I am on hboot 1.06 and I'm running fine any ROM including KitKat ones. That requirement for a higher firmware is coming from an old issue that was before with earlier Android versions (from the versions that used 3.4.x kernel and up), making SOME phones to misbehave (reboots or other issues). It could be that your phone handles it right and in that case you won't need to upgrade if you don't want to.
OK. All these being said, I would suggest you to first try to see if the ROM works OK on your phone like it is and only if it doesn't you should think about S-Off, upgrading firmware and things like this.
Now, what you have to do is download the ROM you would like...any ROM, and before flashing it follow my guide HERE to change the updater script in the ROM's ZIP to allow flashing the ROM on lower hboots. It is very easy, I do this usually in 1 min, I would suggest to use method 2 that's much easier than to follow all detailed steps in method 1. If you have any questions or unclear things ask but I think it's easy enough.
If after this you cannot boot the ROM or have it working, then you can think of upgrading firmware
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I did read in more than one thread that you MUST have hboot 2.15 to install KitKat roms. Also, on CyanogenMod website, it says:
Firmware compatibility:
CM 10.1-11.0: HBOOT 2.13.0000, 2.15.0000, 2.15.4444.But no, I haven't done anything yet. So first of all, I'll make a nandroid backup and then just try factory reset, wipe cache/dalvik, and flash a CM 11 ROM, and see if it works. I'll post here whether it worked or not, I won't have time to do this until the weekend though.
Thanks, btw.
Rapier said:
WHY? You should not only upgrade your firmware but also to S-Off. It is not required but it makes your life easier. And these procedures bear some risks even if they were successful for others. And why should you risk anything unless it's mandatory? The point is you have a hboot lower than 1.09. There are not to many left and people are tempted to forget, but hboot lower than 1.09 means you're like an S-Off. You can flash radios and kernels from recovery as on any other S-Off device. Only thing you can't do is to remove those red letters from the boot splash screen...that is you can't flash another firmware. But hopefully you might not need it.
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I don't get what you're saying. It is still worth getting S-OFF, or it is not?

arjundas86 said:
I did read in more than one thread that you MUST have hboot 2.15 to install KitKat roms. Also, on CyanogenMod website, it says:
Firmware compatibility:
CM 10.1-11.0: HBOOT 2.13.0000, 2.15.0000, 2.15.4444.But no, I haven't done anything yet. So first of all, I'll make a nandroid backup and then just try factory reset, wipe cache/dalvik, and flash a CM 11 ROM, and see if it works. I'll post here whether it worked or not, I won't have time to do this until the weekend though.
Thanks, btw.
I don't get what you're saying. It is still worth getting S-OFF, or it is not?
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I beg to differ answering first:
Just try if you can install your preferred rom, AFTER you edited the "updatescript" as suggested by @Rapier.
IN CASE you have problems with the new rom you should get S-OFF + upgrading HBoot to 2.15+

LS.xD said:
I beg to differ answering first:
Just try if you can install your preferred rom, AFTER you edited the "updatescript" as suggested by @Rapier.
Just IN CASE you have problems with the new rom you should get S-OFF + upgrading HBoot to 2.15+
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Yes, you're right. That's what I meant. I will delete the updater-script lines that Rapier mentioned before trying to install CM11.
If it doesn't work, at least I can restore to my backup, without risk of bricking.
Then I can try the hboot update and s-off if required.
Thanks.

arjundas86 said:
I did read in more than one thread that you MUST have hboot 2.15 to install KitKat roms. Also, on CyanogenMod website, it says:
Firmware compatibility:
CM 10.1-11.0: HBOOT 2.13.0000, 2.15.0000, 2.15.4444....
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Yes, they say so. Then I'm the living proof that this requirement is not true...sorry for that. I've explained above to LS.xD where this requirement came from. The point is that you might have the ROM working even if you're on 1.08 and in this case you won't need to upgrade if you don't want
arjundas86 said:
...I don't get what you're saying. It is still worth getting S-OFF, or it is not?
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It's depending on what you want. If you want to get rid of that red warning, to have the latest hboot and to have less trouble when flashing ROMs then yes, it worth it. If you just want to upgrade your firmware to 2.15 (to match the ROM requirements) but do not want to make the S-Off, you will have to flash the kernel separately in fastboot mode, after each ROM flash. Also you won't be able to flash a radio. That's why I said that if you are going to upgrade the firmware you should get S-Off as well
BUT, if you're NOT going to upgrade your firmware and you'll be lucky to have the ROM working, you won't need to S-Off since your current hboot is lower than 1.09 and allows you to flash radios and kernels directly from recovery.
And at this point, as you said, it worth a try like you are now and only if it's not working like this you should upgrade and do S-Off. I guess is much easier and less risky to remove 4 lines from that script and flash the ROM to see if it's working, than to go through the firmware upgrade & S-Off procedures

Rapier said:
Yes, they say so. Then I'm the living proof that this requirement is not true...sorry for that. I've explained above to LS.xD where this requirement came from. The point is that you might have the ROM working even if you're on 1.08 and in this case you won't need to upgrade if you don't wantIt's depending on what you want. If you want to get rid of that red warning, to have the latest hboot and to have less trouble when flashing ROMs then yes, it worth it. If you just want to upgrade your firmware to 2.15 (to match the ROM requirements) but do not want to make the S-Off, you will have to flash the kernel separately in fastboot mode, after each ROM flash. Also you won't be able to flash a radio. That's why I said that if you are going to upgrade the firmware you should get S-Off as well
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Hey Rapier,
I'm having trouble doing getting the zip signed.
I tried the zip signer you had in your guide, as well as a bunch of other zip signing programs, but none of them seem to do the job. I keep getting Error: Status 7.
Not getting bootloops or anything like that, so I was able to restore to my backup. No harm done.

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