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I think I will stay with G2x after testing Sensation

I had an opportunity to borrow one from corp store rep.
Unfortunately, I am not impressed with this machine. The screen gets washed out if you watch more than 30 degrees off while G2x doesn't (it gets blue tint though).
The rep told me it gets 24xx on Quadrant, which is about same as my G2x.
Moreover, mine doesn't have much problem, so it may be wise for me to stay with G2x and wait for Samsung Hercules.

The screen size makes me want the sensation. The screen quality keeps me at the g2x
G2x with faux AOSP

Timely thread for me. I'm returning my 2nd one and was really studying that Sensation a little while ago....."Should I cut my losses and get this"? Looks pretty good, it really does, but I'm staying with the G2X.
Hopefully the third one works without the reboots. But it is so nice I think I'd likely try a fourth. This after much thought.
It definately needs replacing.....hell it disconnected w/ black screen WHILE I was talking to the T mobile rep today LOL and while it did not reboot in the night, it did lose the bookmarks.
But my daughters is still running perfectly. Not one problem.
And man, this phone is just like her. When its good, it's very very good, but when it's bad....
I really love this phone.

How often are you getting these reboots? I've had a total of 3 G2X's in my household, and none of them suffer from reboots. I had to replace mine today because of USB issues, but other than that the phones have been great.

1st locked up twice and the flashlight went on (?) and I had to pull the battery. Frankly that wasn't enough to return it but two days later was when they mysteriously disappeared fron the shelves and I had an Ick attack. It was on my 14th day and I exchanged it, just in case.
This one as I said elsewhere has been resetting in the night. Every morning I wake up to the phone wanting my sim password. I accidently activated that and like it. But seeing it tells me it has reset, which I would not notice otherwise I don't think. And I have been interupted three or four times on my calls with the phone shutting off. And it reboots randomly and frequently during the day. This is not good.
The first day (friday) it locked up with a very loud buzzing sound, not like the vibration but a loud buzz. This is my main reason for sending it back. I do believe the reboots issues will be fixed with the update.
In retospect I probably should have kept the first one. It was problem free other than the two incidents.

I really don't know which way to go.I'm a die hard invidia fan and the tegra 2 IMO will outperform the Snapdragon anytime but due to all the build issues with the G2X I just don't know where to look.
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Reviews of the Sensation coming out fast now.....this is a good one....love the brit chick
http://www.techradar.com/reviews/phones/mobile-phones/htc-sensation-943466/review
the screen part: HTC has long had a problem with screen visibility in direct sunlight, and it seems that issue has continued somewhat with the Sensation. It's definitely a step up, as at medium brightness you can make out what's on the screen, but compare it to the iPhone 4's Retina Display or the Super AMOLED Plus of the Galaxy S2 and it's miles behind. However, the resolution is definitely a step forward, and the sharpness of the text is impressive.
Samsung Galaxy S2 vs HTC Sensation vs iPhone 4 Screen Comparison
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6UgDpwaDh78

Big toss up. Screen size is very tempting. I loved HTC built devices and the LG kinda let me down with all its kinks, but the support is nice.

I've got a solid G2X, no freezing, rebooting, and minimal screen bleed (after 1 return). The sensation looks like a great phone to me but the size of the G2X is the biggest I'll ever go. And after 2 HTC phones I'll never go back until they replace that damn speaker phone speaker with something you can actually hear.

tombaker1 said:
Reviews of the Sensation coming out fast now.....this is a good one....love the brit chick
http://www.techradar.com/reviews/phones/mobile-phones/htc-sensation-943466/review
the screen part: HTC has long had a problem with screen visibility in direct sunlight, and it seems that issue has continued somewhat with the Sensation. It's definitely a step up, as at medium brightness you can make out what's on the screen, but compare it to the iPhone 4's Retina Display or the Super AMOLED Plus of the Galaxy S2 and it's miles behind. However, the resolution is definitely a step forward, and the sharpness of the text is impressive.
Samsung Galaxy S2 vs HTC Sensation vs iPhone 4 Screen Comparison
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6UgDpwaDh78
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In all honesty, that second link was mostly garbage. If you're going to compare 3 devices, at least do it in a common and neutral environment. It seems a bit silly to judge text clarity when you're looking at several different examples on different backgrounds and text effects.
Angle of view is also useless after a certain point. If you're viewing your phone at a 20 degree angle, it might be best to worry about untying yourself and getting away from your kidnappers first.

wasnt the screen on this thing supposed to be abit concaved? certainly didnt look that way in them pics on one of them links!

tombaker1 said:
Reviews of the Sensation coming out fast now.....this is a good one....love the brit chick
http://www.techradar.com/reviews/phones/mobile-phones/htc-sensation-943466/review
the screen part: HTC has long had a problem with screen visibility in direct sunlight, and it seems that issue has continued somewhat with the Sensation. It's definitely a step up, as at medium brightness you can make out what's on the screen, but compare it to the iPhone 4's Retina Display or the Super AMOLED Plus of the Galaxy S2 and it's miles behind. However, the resolution is definitely a step forward, and the sharpness of the text is impressive.
Samsung Galaxy S2 vs HTC Sensation vs iPhone 4 Screen Comparison
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6UgDpwaDh78
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Yet another example of how HTC made such a huge profit. Cheaped out on decent hardware parts.
G2x with faux AOSP

speedbreaker said:
wasnt the screen on this thing supposed to be abit concaved? certainly didnt look that way in them pics on one of them links!
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Yes, or atleast its supposed to sit a bit inside the housing so that when you set it face down it doesn't touch the surface.

booch137 said:
I've got a solid G2X, no freezing, rebooting, and minimal screen bleed (after 1 return). The sensation looks like a great phone to me but the size of the G2X is the biggest I'll ever go. And after 2 HTC phones I'll never go back until they replace that damn speaker phone speaker with something you can actually hear.
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I thought the same thing, go look at the specs compared to the G2X
http://androinica.com/2011/04/t-mobile-g2x-vs-htc-sensation/ scroll down a little.
G2X Dimenions
4.90 x 2.50 x 0.40
Sensation Dimenions
4.96 x 2.57 x 0.44
and only weighs .22oz more for the aluminum feeling.
I remember reading people really liked the metal strip the G2X has, that they would avoid putting a cover on it cause it looked so nice!!! I agreed but still bought a case since I'm selling the G2X for this aluminum sexy model called a phone, haha. I just love the feel of HTC phones prefer Sense overall as well... sucks for those with all those issues and still want to keep the G2X I feel bad as I have no issues and am still selling this phone.
Good luck peeps.

mt3g said:
I thought the same thing, go look at the specs compared to the G2X
http://androinica.com/2011/04/t-mobile-g2x-vs-htc-sensation/ scroll down a little.
G2X Dimenions
4.90 x 2.50 x 0.40
Sensation Dimenions
4.96 x 2.57 x 0.44
and only weighs .22oz more for the aluminum feeling.
I remember reading people really liked the metal strip the G2X has, that they would avoid putting a cover on it cause it looked so nice!!! I agreed but still bought a case since I'm selling the G2X for this aluminum sexy model called a phone, haha. I just love the feel of HTC phones prefer Sense overall as well... sucks for those with all those issues and still want to keep the G2X I feel bad as I have no issues and am still selling this phone.
Good luck peeps.
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Have no issues with my G2X either but I feel the Sensations aluminum body isn't enough of a upgrade over the G2x but I can tell you what is a worthy upgrade. A SGSII variant. It's still the phone to beat and is still called the best Android phone that exists. Engadget even said in the Sensation review that the SGSII was more responsive and had more power. Myriam on Engadget said it wasn't enough to get rid of her SGSII and Sense was holding it down. I think I'll pass since I won't have enough app storage available to even store 2 of my Game Loft games. It's 2011 and HTC is still giving us 1gb of app storsge.
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jrwingate6 said:
Have no issues with my G2X either but I feel the Sensations aluminum body isn't enough of a upgrade over the G2x but I can tell you what is a worthy upgrade. A SGSII variant. It's still the phone to beat and is still called the best Android phone that exists. Engadget even said in the Sensation review that the SGSII was more responsive and had more power. Myriam on Engadget said it wasn't enough to get rid of her SGSII and Sense was holding it down. I think I'll pass since I won't have enough app storage available to even store 2 of my Game Loft games. It's 2011 and HTC is still giving us 1gb of app storsge.
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ya I dont want plastic at all... and launcher pro will take care of the sense hogging down if it does slow it down... doubt it will. The Sensations resolution helps with pixels... I've seen a couple captivates, and a vibrants that had weird looks to the text stuff... Sure they are bright and vivid but clarity is awesome...
Besides that Samsung has a well bad rap when it comes to phones, lol... just saying the G2X is awesome but I prefer HTC and Sense.

Let us know how you feel when its not so great in sunlight.
G2x with faux AOSP

remember people
the sensation has most likely been sitting in boxes with those encrypted bootloaders.
and the benchmarks i see do not score 2400 on the sensation.
But it should be a decent phone, also the sensation has the mhl connection not a seperate hdmi and i hear it doesnt come with the cable. and they are hard or imposible to find.
also the mhl standard does allow charging but no hardware out at this time knows that standard so no charging while using hdmi out.
It did take 3 tries but i think i have a good g2x finallly it was dated april 30th for anyone that cares
So i would wait and see whats said once they come out.
Im sure it will be a fine phone but if you are into modding id wait and check out that bootloader first.

Sense ui eats so much ram!
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No way would I touch a sensation after I researched it for my buyers remorse period when I bought the G2x. Glad I made the right choice in choosing a phone. I never had a problem with any of my G2x phones. I traded the first one because of the backlight but never had any reboots or issues. The second one is near flawless.
The Sensation looks like a sweet phone and all but it is just to much of a step back in too many departments coming from the G2x.
Less powerful CPU/GPU
1Gb of Storage vs 8Gb
Lower Front Cam Res
MHL HDMI Out - Power
Encrypted Bootloader (which may or may not be unlocked) (HTC said "future phones would be unlocked")
Ram Killer aka Sense
Sure you can opt to run Launcher Pro and not use Sense... but that doesn't mean that Sense just vanishes. All those graphic files have to be stored somewhere. I cooked many Sense roms to know the difference in weight between a Sense and Non-Sense rom.

Was reading over at the Sensation Thread... That new phone has ZERO issues, aww some

Take a gander over at the Sensation thread....way more concerns than the G2x.
1. Death Grip.
2. Assembly issues.
3. Screen not being sealed, dust getting in, joints not connected.
4. Switching automatically into Silent mode.
5. Two screen manufacturers one with very bad viewing angles SHARP....AUO seemly the better one....jury still out.
6. Speaker and microphone problems.
7. Touchscreen problems.
I am pretty sure some threads will be started about how TMOnews is saying the Sensation is being pulled. Some earnest posters will soon be saying they want to do a class action for their 1 week old phone, instead of just returning it outright.
Basically everything is always greener on the phone that is yet to be released. At least with LG you actually will get a screen made by LG. HTC is kinda like the Vizio of cell phones.
Remember: Doing a full system rebuild reset (clearing out everything and reset option) will cool down your phone, and extend battery length. Something about recognizing the battery size properly is thought to be reason. Its the first thing to do on a new phone. Accessed through the menus

Come on Tom. I am happy with my G2X but I am sure that the Sensation will not be pulled from stores for a month without any word from HTC and T-mobile . I'm also sure that folks that have them don't have to go through 3 of them to get a working one or flash a custom rom to keep it from rebooting. AGAIN . I love my G2X but at least the sensation shipped with gingerbread .
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tombaker1 said:
Take a gander over at the Sensation thread....way more concerns than the G2x.
1. Death Grip.
2. Assembly issues.
3. Screen not being sealed, dust getting in, joints not connected.
4. Switching automatically into Silent mode.
5. Two screen manufacturers one with very bad viewing angles SHARP....AUO seemly the better one....jury still out.
6. Speaker and microphone problems.
7. Touchscreen problems.
I am pretty sure some threads will be started about how TMOnews is saying the Sensation is being pulled. Some earnest posters will soon be saying they want to do a class action for their 1 week old phone, instead of just returning it outright.
Basically everything is always greener on the phone that is yet to be released. At least with LG you actually will get a screen made by LG. HTC is kinda like the Vizio of cell phones.
Remember: Doing a full system rebuild reset (clearing out everything and reset option) will cool down your phone, and extend battery length. Something about recognizing the battery size properly is thought to be reason. Its the first thing to do on a new phone. Accessed through the menus
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Lets not be jealous of what other people have.
I had the G2x from day one till a week ago. Had so many issues, with bleeding, with phone rebooting, with EVERYTHING. My brother and my girlfriend also had the same issues with the G2x. I got the sensation, and I have had 0 issues so far.
Yes, the only thing is death grip, but guess what.. the G2x has it too. Every phone has it. But when do you get it ? Only when you put the phone in the palm of your hand, and cover it completely.
If someone holds the phone like that - they are probably not supposed to have a phone in the first time.
So please dont go talking **** about the Sensation, just by looking at what the noobs are saying about it.
Like every other phone - there are a few issues with it, as some people get dust and whatnot, but guess what - they get a replacement and it works.
I got 3 G2x replacements - all had the same issues as the previous. Constant rebooting or freezing, horrible HORRIBLE backlight bleeding.. NO THANK YOU! I use my phone for business and can not afford using a phone that will randomly just freeze and not work at all.
Again, I have had 0 issues with my sensation, other than the fact that it has no root so far. But we are getting there. And not just me - I got 3 phones, they all work perfectly fine.
Go ahead, get yourself a sensation, feel it, see it, play with it - and then say that the G2x is better.

tombaker1 said:
Take a gander over at the Sensation thread....way more concerns than the G2x.
1. Death Grip.
2. Assembly issues.
3. Screen not being sealed, dust getting in, joints not connected.
4. Switching automatically into Silent mode.
5. Two screen manufacturers one with very bad viewing angles SHARP....AUO seemly the better one....jury still out.
6. Speaker and microphone problems.
7. Touchscreen problems.
I am pretty sure some threads will be started about how TMOnews is saying the Sensation is being pulled. Some earnest posters will soon be saying they want to do a class action for their 1 week old phone, instead of just returning it outright.
Basically everything is always greener on the phone that is yet to be released. At least with LG you actually will get a screen made by LG. HTC is kinda like the Vizio of cell phones.
Remember: Doing a full system rebuild reset (clearing out everything and reset option) will cool down your phone, and extend battery length. Something about recognizing the battery size properly is thought to be reason. Its the first thing to do on a new phone. Accessed through the menus
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I have both the phones with me. Below are the things i found in my usage.
1) I tried to play some games on sensation and I just couldn't. The games i am talking about are NANO PANDA, JENGA, KONAS CRATE, PEGGLE. I could load them and play for only 10 mins max. It was really really slow. But G2X was treating these games like piece of cake. So fast and easy to load. On top of that when i try to play these kind of games and then go back home on sensation, the sense would do a soft reset itself because of memory issue or whatever it may be.
2) Whenever i restart my phone, i loose the icons from my home of the apps which are on SD card. Time to Time i also have to delete widgets from home screen and add them back on, otherwise i get jagged lines on the widgets.
3) on the same wifi network g2x was able to pull 10mbps down, 3 mbps up. At the same time sensation was able to pull 4mbps down and 2.5mbps up. STRANGE.
4) Stability wise still sensation is a little bit better than G2X. But when you use sensation for 1 week straight and do not touch G2X. And after that week when you play with G2X, my GODDDD, you will feel the speed. G2X is so so so much faster and fluid than sensation.
NOTE TO PPL WHO ARE CONSIDERING SENSATION:-
its a good phone, but its nowhere near g2x imo. wait for the g2x patch, i am sure that would resolve all the software related issues. do not rush and get sensation. trust me, you are just getting one hell of a laggy but beautiful phone.

Well the G2x is pretty sound hardware wise... it just shipped with crappy software. At least it was unlocked and able to allow the Devs here to fix them.
Hardware problems are different. The Sensations touchscreen issues could be resolved via drivers... or they could just have a crappy digitizer like we had on the Nexus One (fake multitouch). These are things that make the phone kinda crappy because it could turn into a real issue that is unresolvable.
I don't know but lets be real, every phone I've had I run custom roms. If a custom rom is a good fix to solve pretty much all the problems of a new phone... wouldn't it make sense to go that route instead of just enduring the issues?
The Sensation is currently locked down so no devs are able to try and fix those issues. Your forced to stick it out until either HTC sends out an updated rom (months) or they unlock the bootloader (maybe never, but probably eventually).
Those are some crappy odds. I'd much rather take the much more powerful G2x, load a custom CM7 rom, and have the best of both worlds. I have a newer version of Android on my G2x then the Sensation has (2.3.4 vs 2.3.3), it is super fast, solid, and more powerful. Why would anyone not want that?

Just my two cents. I ended up with the sensation. I still own my g2x. I feel so far the sensation is a better phone. I can't play my purchased tegra games which sucks. But I have a 50" tv with ps3 and 360 for all that nonsense. I need my phone to work and not be a pain in the as! I had a love hate relation with my g2x. Seems the bottom line is that the phone was a great idea but ended up a failure! Am very happy (so far) with the sensation, does what it is suppose to do. Haven't seen any dust or had any issues. Fingers crossed! I will be selling my g2x.
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t0ny0 said:
Lets not be jealous of what other people have.
I had the G2x from day one till a week ago. Had so many issues, with bleeding, with phone rebooting, with EVERYTHING. My brother and my girlfriend also had the same issues with the G2x. I got the sensation, and I have had 0 issues so far.
Yes, the only thing is death grip, but guess what.. the G2x has it too. Every phone has it. But when do you get it ? Only when you put the phone in the palm of your hand, and cover it completely.
If someone holds the phone like that - they are probably not supposed to have a phone in the first time.
So please dont go talking **** about the Sensation, just by looking at what the noobs are saying about it.
Like every other phone - there are a few issues with it, as some people get dust and whatnot, but guess what - they get a replacement and it works.
I got 3 G2x replacements - all had the same issues as the previous. Constant rebooting or freezing, horrible HORRIBLE backlight bleeding.. NO THANK YOU! I use my phone for business and can not afford using a phone that will randomly just freeze and not work at all.
Again, I have had 0 issues with my sensation, other than the fact that it has no root so far. But we are getting there. And not just me - I got 3 phones, they all work perfectly fine.
Go ahead, get yourself a sensation, feel it, see it, play with it - and then say that the G2x is better.
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My sentiments exactly. I've had no issues with my sensation at all, and when compared to the issues I had with the G2X it isn't close. I'm at 17 days now with the Sensation and I have not had a single crash or reboot. Deathgrip is a non-issue and there is no screen bleed. While I do like G2X I feel like my Sensation is much more stable and reliable than it is. That may possibly change with a G2X update, but for the time being at least the grass is definitely greener for me. OP I agree with t0ny0, your posts definitely sounds like you've got a bit of jealousy going there.

yo if you have a sensation why you still in this forum ?!

90teggy said:
Just my two cents. I ended up with the sensation. I still own my g2x. I feel so far the sensation is a better phone. I can't play my purchased tegra games which sucks. But I have a 50" tv with ps3 and 360 for all that nonsense. I need my phone to work and not be a pain in the as! I had a love hate relation with my g2x. Seems the bottom line is that the phone was a great idea but ended up a failure! Am very happy (so far) with the sensation, does what it is suppose to do. Haven't seen any dust or had any issues. Fingers crossed! I will be selling my g2x.
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I have to disagree about the g2x being a failure.

360? Red Rings? WHAT?!

mysterioustko said:
My sentiments exactly. I've had no issues with my sensation at all, and when compared to the issues I had with the G2X it isn't close. I'm at 17 days now with the Sensation and I have not had a single crash or reboot. Deathgrip is a non-issue and there is no screen bleed. While I do like G2X I feel like my Sensation is much more stable and reliable than it is. That may possibly change with a G2X update, but for the time being at least the grass is definitely greener for me. OP I agree with t0ny0, your posts definitely sounds like you've got a bit of jealousy going there.
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Jealously? Not really, though I would surely like that Samsung Inspire with its 4.5 super Amoled Plus screen. If Jealously is not the name of an Android phone yet....it surely will be soon.
I was trying to be "ironical" with the posting....actually I would say from the threads it looks to be about the same amount of issues....saying greater was an overstep. The grass is greener on the phone yet to be released is the basic point.
I do think that the G2x shipped earlier than it should have....it got to be the first dual on Android by that....it should have shipped with 2.3 by all rights. I sorta think the 2.3 release will be the first release.
I get throughput to my phone in good areas of 9000 mbps...I am wanting better reception in bad areas, but being new to TM and without the ability to use other phones, I am not sure if I am better or worse....I see some comments on reception on the Sensation being better....but not enough to be sure either way.
I like the Sensation as a phone, as with the G2x...too switch phones at this point is gonna be hard, unless I throw a tantrum. I had the ability inside of 30 to get the Sensation, so I was closely following it. I think they both have advantages....but what is keeping with the G2x is raw horsepower, which should be strong enough to run all the future Androids in the next two years or more.
I also like the real H-IPS screen, its near as good color wise as the Super Amoled+, much better than the Sensation on color and off angle viewing, and better for small text than the Amoled+, though its getting very close now with the +. The GF has Ip4, which is the best screen still, with zero bleed fwiw too.
SUPER-LCD is just a marketing term, its not any technology besides for being the most current and best TN technology for LCDs. Its TN still. Samsungs new PLS type is different from PVA though.
Besides the irony posting for the sensation awaiting the Sensation....I fully understand and can not fault either anyone who prefers one to the other. They are peer level phones, with physical advantages over each other. It a taste thing.....I would prefer the samsung Inspire 4.5 super amoled + over either....as a pure piece of hardware, nothing is close to the Iphone 4, glass on both sides, metal all the way around, lovely little brick....all wasted and nullified as soon as its put into an Otter. Most form factor stuff besides screen size is moot once its put in a case.
but I digress...I must be jealous, but I don't have enough commitment to be jealous of anything in particular, for long.

tombaker1 said:
Jealously? Not really, though I would surely like that Samsung Inspire with its 4.5 super Amoled Plus screen. If Jealously is not the name of an Android phone yet....it surely will be soon.
I was trying to be "ironical" with the posting....actually I would say from the threads it looks to be about the same amount of issues....saying greater was an overstep. The grass is greener on the phone yet to be released is the basic point.
I do think that the G2x shipped earlier than it should have....it got to be the first dual on Android by that....it should have shipped with 2.3 by all rights. I sorta think the 2.3 release will be the first release.
I get throughput to my phone in good areas of 9000 mbps...I am wanting better reception in bad areas, but being new to TM and without the ability to use other phones, I am not sure if I am better or worse....I see some comments on reception on the Sensation being better....but not enough to be sure either way.
I like the Sensation as a phone, as with the G2x...too switch phones at this point is gonna be hard, unless I throw a tantrum. I had the ability inside of 30 to get the Sensation, so I was closely following it. I think they both have advantages....but what is keeping with the G2x is raw horsepower, which should be strong enough to run all the future Androids in the next two years or more.
I also like the real H-IPS screen, its near as good color wise as the Super Amoled+, much better than the Sensation on color and off angle viewing, and better for small text than the Amoled+, though its getting very close now with the +. The GF has Ip4, which is the best screen still, with zero bleed fwiw too.
SUPER-LCD is just a marketing term, its not any technology besides for being the most current and best TN technology for LCDs. Its TN still. Samsungs new PLS type is different from PVA though.
Besides the irony posting for the sensation awaiting the Sensation....I fully understand and can not fault either anyone who prefers one to the other. They are peer level phones, with physical advantages over each other. It a taste thing.....I would prefer the samsung Inspire 4.5 super amoled + over either....as a pure piece of hardware, nothing is close to the Iphone 4, glass on both sides, metal all the way around, lovely little brick....all wasted and nullified as soon as its put into an Otter. Most form factor stuff besides screen size is moot once its put in a case.
but I digress...I must be jealous, but I don't have enough commitment to be jealous of anything in particular, for long.
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Oh yeah...you're jealous no doubt !!! I had a long reply written up and my brand new kitten stepped on my keyboard. Suffice to say, as owner of both, its a personal choice with both having merits. Both have issues too, as do all phones. Live and let die...buy what makes you happy...Stay thirsty my friend...so whatever they say on the TV.

alodar1 said:
...Stay thirsty my friend...
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I usually don't drink.. but when i do, i drink dos equis.

These things amaze me. Many people just to prove their point or for whatever reason say that they use their phone for business or for taking videos and pictures of their child's first time doing something. who in their right mind would use g2x or sensation or any other smart phone for so important stuff like these? I don't use anything except landline for my work and for taking pictures or videos I don't use anything but my digital slr camera and handy cam. And I guess that's true for most people who are in their right mind. If you want to work, you need a landline and a computer. If you want to take pictures and videos there are devices specially for that. Smartphones are just to help you so that you can stay connected and don't miss on certain things not for hardcore work.
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jalshah05 said:
These things amaze me. Many people just to prove their point or for whatever reason say that they use their phone for business or for taking videos and pictures of their child's first time doing something. who in their right mind would use g2x or sensation or any other smart phone for so important stuff like these? I don't use anything except landline for my work and for taking pictures or videos I don't use anything but my digital slr camera and handy cam. And I guess that's true for most people who are in their right mind. If you want to work, you need a landline and a computer. If you want to take pictures and videos there are devices specially for that. Smartphones are just to help you so that you can stay connected and don't miss on certain things not for hardcore work.
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You, sir or ma'am, are still living in another era.

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These things amaze me. Many people just to prove their point or for whatever reason say that they use their phone for business or for taking videos and pictures of their child's first time doing something. who in their right mind would use g2x or sensation or any other smart phone for so important stuff like these? I don't use anything except landline for my work and for taking pictures or videos I don't use anything but my digital slr camera and handy cam. And I guess that's true for most people who are in their right mind. If you want to work, you need a landline and a computer. If you want to take pictures and videos there are devices specially for that. Smartphones are just to help you so that you can stay connected and don't miss on certain things not for hardcore work.
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phburks said:
You, sir or ma'am, are still living in another era.
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Just in case you have a flux capacitor handy, try jumping back into the 21st Century. I'll see if I can get Doc Brown to help you out

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Just in case you have a flux capacitor handy, try jumping back into the 21st Century. I'll see if I can get Doc Brown to help you out
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Lol thank God I always keep one handy.

jeffreynew23 said:
I love my G2X but at least the sensation shipped with gingerbread .
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think of it this way, no matter what a phone was shipped with, it will have flaws and SW updates will be required...so no matter what we are updating the device

I had a G2X....switched to a Sensation. Happy I did...but of course, to each their own.
I wanted the 4.3 qHD 16:9 display + 1080p @ 30fps in stereo.
Simple choice for me.
Silly how people say mine is best, mine is best. As soon as you get your next device the G2X will suck? Right?
Personal preference.
Both devices have their respective issues. Both devices outshine the other in different areas.
Come back to reality OP

No sir I am sure I am living in the current era and that's the reason I have house full of gadgets and also sensation and g2x. But I also like photography and I also like to work without thinking about dying battery or network outage. Have you ever seen any professional photographer taking pictures with his cell phone? Or have you seen any company putting out smart phone out on your desk? I wonder why. If I want to look at the photographs of my wedding or my honeymoon or my baby taking his first step or even outing with my friends I want them to be crispy clear. And no phone camera has ever taken pictures even close to even any entry level slr camera.
Phones and these gadgets are my hobby for which my work pays. But with these gadgets nobody can do any real world 8-10 hours job.
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buying a sidekick 4g, any thoughts?

Am going to pick up a SK4G in a little bit and was wondering from our community the general conscensus on how you guys feel about it?
I'm coming from a MT4G, which I am extremely happy with, the way I have it set-up. Any one also have both and maybe a comparison? (not the obvious of course like "the screen is smaller", etc., I've been around a bit, I know a tad about a couple things =] )
I've noticed it doesnt have as crazy as a following as some of the other androids, but that doesnt mean theres no good development going on!
Let me know if you dont mind.

I came from the mt3gs and a VM optimus v afterwards. I wanted the mt4g for the specs. But I couldn't do all touch typing. I found keyboards to help. But it's just not the same as a physical qwerty.
I'm the kind of guy who likes to buy phone 2-4x a year. Maybe not the kings of the hill. But mid to high range phones. Of course, it's expensive to do so. I decided to get a phone to last a whole two-year contract. I opted for the s4g. I was due for an upgrade and even waited until launch date for this over a g2 or mt4g.
What won me was obviously the keyboard. You don't see too many 5-rows available. Spec-wise, this phone is just average. Camera dept. is really lacking. Only 3mp. But lack of led flash was the killer. Still, the keyboard was winner. The physical design is nice. I especially liked the sliding mechanism. Half-phone sliders, like the mt3gs, just feel faulty and flimsy. You could pull the halves apart or slide past the closing stop point. Not that an average person would. But I like to conduct stress tests. This mechanism is sturdy. People have dropped plenty times and claim the mechanism is just as sturdy as it was at purchase.
Also, the screen tilt really makes a difference. Using my mt3gs after this makes it really apparent. It makes using a non-tilt screen really hard to adjust back to.
The phone does come with some bugs and issues, which you can read through the forums (I have a thread over at tmo forums and adroid central entitled "bug report and other issues".) However, rooting and getting custom rom Smooth Maximus GingerClone will make the phone a new phone. The speed is fast and lag hardy present. Only minute issues still remain, yet to be resolved.
Overall, especially if you need a physical keyboard, I would suggest this phone. It is highly recommended you get Smooth Maximus for its best value. If all-touch phones didn't bother me I would go for a mt4g, g2, or wait for the mt4gs. But for you, as a backup phone this is an awesome investment. I would wait for the mt4gs, though, just for its specs and future android development.

I would say don't. You will miss the MT4G. I did the same thing Saturday night. I got rid of it last night. The phone has a nice keyboard and stuff... but the performance of the phone lacks! I mean it has a 1ghz processor and all, but its nowhere near fast as a vibrant.
I would say don't. Because you will be disappointed. If you want a keyboard get the G2 or wait for the myTouch 4G Slide.
3 days after I got the SK4G I traded it immediately and got a Nexus S instead. That phone wouldn't send or receive texts and it also wouldn't call or receive calls until I restarted. But that might have been wifi callings issue though. And if you browse the web a lot then this is not your device since the screen is so small. The only thing I liked about the phone was Cloud Text and the phenomenal keyboard. Although, as all Samsung slider keyboards do, it tends to once in a while not register a key when typing.
The quality of the SK also lacks significantly compared to the myTouch....
Just my 2 cents.
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enoch861 said:
I would say don't. You will miss the MT4G. I did the same thing Saturday night. I got rid of it last night. The phone has a nice keyboard and stuff... but the performance of the phone lacks! I mean it has a 1ghz processor and all, but its nowhere near fast as a vibrant.
I would say don't. Because you will be disappointed. If you want a keyboard get the G2 or wait for the myTouch 4G Slide.
3 days after I got the SK4G I traded it immediately and got a Nexus S instead. That phone wouldn't send or receive texts and it also wouldn't call or receive calls until I restarted. But that might have been wifi callings issue though. And if you browse the web a lot then this is not your device since the screen is so small. The only thing I liked about the phone was Cloud Text and the phenomenal keyboard. Although, as all Samsung slider keyboards do, it tends to once in a while not register a key when typing.
The quality of the SK also lacks significantly compared to the myTouch....
Just my 2 cents.
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Listen , you should do a bit research before posting in this thread imo .
It's a 1GHz of course it lack's performance , the Galaxy & SK4G have the same processor & gut's & once you install a custom kernel & ROM you will be fine , there is no Wifi Calling issue & browsing the web is fine , Cloud Text & the keyboard is amazing .

I don't wanna be bias so I'll give my honest opinion. If you are a power user, don't get this phone. Though it runs a lot more smoothly on a custom root setup, it still has tiny lag, as enoch pointed out it doesn't register all button keyboard presses. The only reason you should get the sk4g is for the keyboard alone. If not then a more powerful phone may satisfy your needs.
If you are a power user, don't get this phone. If you're getting a phone just cause, you can consider this. I love the phone and haven't put it down since. But if this is a main phone for two years on contract, you can get something better.
Lol, I don't mean to contradict my earlier post. I'm not as bias with this one.

i would recommend the sk4g. coming from all-touch smartphones like the nexus one and hd2 running android and the hd7, i am happy with the sidekick 4g. i generally avoided android phones with qwerty keyboards because most are sliders and i hate phones with too much movement.
the droid pro was my dream form factor for an android phone but since i am happy with tmo there was no way i would switch to verizon just for that phone. plus the resolution on the droid pros smaller screen was a turnoff.
the slider on the sidekick 4g is pretty sturdy. the keyboard is awesome. i use my phone a lot for business and the sidekick 4g was the last smartphone on my list. but after comparing to other qwerty androids out there the skg4 seemed to be one of the better.
the camera is only 3m and no led flash. but the quality of the pictures is pretty good for being 3m. depending on what rom i had on my hd2, the sk4g's cam took pics just as good.
the speakerphone is pretty good. better than any htc ive had.(g1, mytouch 3g, hd2, hd7, nexus one).
even though its mostly made of plastic, its pretty durable and not as 'cheap' feeling as some claim it to be. i actually think its one of the more better built phones ive had(besides the hd2).
as for performance, even though it has the same 1GHz hummingbird processor as the galaxy s, tab, etc... it doesnt feel as smooth. most of the lag can be noticed while unlocking, navigating through any custom ui, and switching back to home screen from some apps. but once you are inside of an app it feels just as smooth and snappy as other 1GHz smartphones.
if i were you i'd probably wait until the mytouch 4g slide comes out.. its not too long. im not really digging the mytouch4g/slide's front looks and not liking how the touchscreen is fully exposed on all sides as opposed to the sk4g's screen/slider is protected on two sides.

I know my phones. I know it technically has the same guts as any Galaxy S phone. But I can tell you any Galaxy S phone feels so much more faster than this phone does. I mean I was shocked that the phone didn't perform like a 1ghz device should! I did install Bali with voodoo enabled and that didn't make much difference. While on the vibrant the difference was almost night and day.
And yes I pointed out that Cloud Text and the keyboard are Amazing!
But the phone is just sluggish.
If he is a power user, he needs to look elsewhere because this phone won't suffice your need of power. I mean I found my self restarting the phone every few hours while on my myTouch 4G I never had to restart.
Another thing I should also point out is that battery life isn't the greatest. The phone wasn't lasting me even 8 hours a day (I'm more of a power user). While the myTouch would last me 22+ hours on the Virtuous Unity ROM or 18+ hours on stock. The phone with a keyboard that lasted the longest that I ever owned (android) was the G2 I was getting a solid 36+ hours of use. It was Stunning!!
My suggestion would be wait a few weeks and you can get the myTouch 4G Slide.
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Listen , you should do a bit research before posting in this thread imo .
It's a 1GHz of course it lack's performance , the Galaxy & SK4G have the same processor & gut's & once you install a custom kernel & ROM you will be fine , there is no Wifi Calling issue & browsing the web is fine , Cloud Text & the keyboard is amazing .
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I'm trading my sidekick for a nexus one next week. Unless I change my mind.
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I would recommend this phone if you are a hardcore qwerty user like myself. I came from the MT4G and I got this phone through craigslist and I have been satisfied. Is it a high end phone? Maybe if this came out last summer but it does not stop this from being a good phone. Even though the development is not as great as other phones ( I do appreciate the support!) There is not much wrong with this phone. 3 MP is weak for a camera nowadays but it does its job. Is the phone sluggish at times? Sometimes but with the gingerclone rom and bali kernal it has decreased. With more roms in kernals in the future it should change indeed. As for the battery I let the battery die and let it charge completely and no lie got 24+ hours of battery life which consisted of playing Chrono Trigger on my phone (keyboard controller ftw) but as everyone else has been saying if you want value and a 5 row keyboard then sk4g, if you wanna throw some more money and wanna be that suave guy with a fancy phone then please get the mt4gs and tell me how it is ;-)
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Not a good trade. I wouldn't do it.
Try to see if you can get a Nexus S instead.
bburke88 said:
I'm trading my sidekick for a nexus one next week. Unless I change my mind.
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most people who are all hardcore with buying the latest and greatest may disagree. My point of contention is, when your a guy like me who has to keep up with multiple females at any given moment there is no better phone. Simply put, *****es love texting. The only competition we have as far as touch screen texting is the Droid boomerang. I forget the model designation but the thing is ****ing retarded huge. Next up we have the blackberry, but the closed source OS was the major boner killer for me.
With all that said, if you **** *****es, like lots of *****es. There is no better phone. All the other ************s struggle to keep up. I don't know how, but all the females I know get at least 45 WPM out of those ****ing dinosaur Nokia bricks. I can't do that ****, but I do know that with a SK4G I can get 45 WPM+ with nearly 100% accuracy.

The Pope of Dope said:
most people who are all hardcore with buying the latest and greatest may disagree. My point of contention is, when your a guy like me who has to keep up with multiple females at any given moment there is no better phone. Simply put, *****es love texting. The only competition we have as far as touch screen texting is the Droid boomerang. I forget the model designation but the thing is ****ing retarded huge. Next up we have the blackberry, but the closed source OS was the major boner killer for me.
With all that said, if you **** *****es, like lots of *****es. There is no better phone. All the other ************s struggle to keep up. I don't know how, but all the females I know get at least 45 WPM out of those ****ing dinosaur Nokia bricks. I can't do that ****, but I do know that with a SK4G I can get 45 WPM+ with nearly 100% accuracy.
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Lol... you say some dumb **** bro...
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Just wait for the 4g slide
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Will I like the Sensation?

Long story short, I lost my Samsung Vibrant (my previous upgrade 5 months ago) or it was stolen and T-mobile offered me a Free phone if I extend our lines for 2 years. (couldn't get the deal in the future or I would have waited for the Galaxy 2 probably) Which overall wasn't a big deal as we have been with them for 5 years and everything works out well. (plus we can still downgrade/upgrade our plan)
Anyway,
I chose the Sensation and had a few questions.
Will I like it? It seems very promising and I loved my G1.
More importantly, can I root it and throw on the roms I see floating around? Some people In reviews said the boot loader is locked? But not on newer versions?

the phone is GREAT. rooting and s-off is very easy. go into android developement and there will be the thread for it. the roms are all mostly sense roms. cm7 is out but still in beta but its pretty stable. so is MIUI, a iphoneish not really rom. only things wrong with miui is wifi calling and bluetooth. i think so with cm7 too.

g1user101 said:
the phone is GREAT. rooting and s-off is very easy. go into android developement and there will be the thread for it. the roms are all mostly sense roms. cm7 is out but still in beta but its pretty stable. so is MIUI, a iphoneish not really rom. only things wrong with miui is wifi calling and bluetooth. i think so with cm7 too.
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Have you noticed any signal issues? I've read a few but the majority of the people didn't have it.
I'm excited. HTC is awesome build quality. Should be plenty even with the slower dual core compared to the galaxy.
Only thing I was really worried about was screen but it seems this one is pretty good.
Also, is the Zagg shield worth it? I really want a decent screen protector but hate trying to put them on.

about the screen,
maybe it's not as beautiful as I-PHONE, but I think the quality is very good already.
It's a good phone, I like it very much
so~~~many things here, you can discover to modify you phone, and improve it performance.
Don;t worry, just check it out ~XD

I think you'll love it. I used to have an iPhone4 and love this phone. The build quality is real good. The speaker seems a little on the quiet side. I'd recommend rooting it ASAP and installing CM7. Yes, it's in the alpha phase right now, but it's real fast and CM is so nice imho of course.
So yeah, the Sensation has a great screen, a good feel, and is pretty quick. Much faster than a stock SGSII if you install a modded ROM and overclock it ;-)

I will for sure root it and put a rom on it. Not so sure I will overclock it.
Can you comment on call quality and speed? My vibrant only had 3g so looking forward to 4g.
I'm almost thinking of downgrading my data plan too. The last 4 months of use on my Vibrant I did maybe 350MB's total out of 5GB.
Any comments on a Zagg screen? that or is there something easy to put on it off Amazon? ( i have 2 day shipping)
Any clue when t-mobile will get the Galaxy s2? That's the only other phone I would have wanted but, I had to go with one today as I couldn't get the deal again.

im not really a big fan of screen protectors so i really cant recomend one. i do know that the zagg sheild is a good screen protector. i have used one in the past and i liked how it feels. its really solid and thick so you will get the feeling that nothin will scratch it unlike any of the other screen protectors out there. tmobile sells one as well. but i had one on my hd2 but i didnt like it cause it has a matte finnish to prevent smudges and it just felt awkward whenever i move my thumb around. you can always look around on ebay for a really cheap one. but like i said i really dont use them. i buy them and i wind up removin them a few weeks later. idk y its just the way i am. and i never had a problem with scracthes. with the exception of the hd2 but i had that phone for over a year before i got that scratch and you really cant see it plus i replaced it with the sensation a week later.
as far as the galaxy s ii i believe it comes out sometime next month. most likely at the end. anyone can correct me if im wrong here.
i for one love htc phones just becuase of build quality and sense ui. but some people dont like sense so its really up to the user on that. just go to the store and play around with the sensation and the galaxy s ( i know its not the s ii but its close to it.) and see for yourself. i think youll love the htc sensation.
edit: get the zagg sheild. i think its the best bang for your buck

I'm much in the same boat guys, going to be coming from an iPhone 4.
I've had a Nexus S and an Atrix, but didn't like the Atrix due to the screen and motoblur (at the time development was slow), and the Nexus S build quality was appalling.
I just want good battery life and great build quality, good screen and fast.
Will I like it do you guys reckon ?

Wingzer said:
I'm much in the same boat guys, going to be coming from an iPhone 4.
I've had a Nexus S and an Atrix, but didn't like the Atrix due to the screen and motoblur (at the time development was slow), and the Nexus S build quality was appalling.
I just want good battery life and great build quality, good screen and fast.
Will I like it do you guys reckon ?
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Yup, go for it

Tbh I can't tell much different between the quality of this screen and the iphone 4. Except that ours is bigger of course.
I love this phone. Now that I am sense free with cyanogenmod its easily the fastest phone I've ever seen.
The only real ***** is the usual one with htc phones. Htc always put **** external speaker in their phones. Its still useable but compared to some of the other smart phones out there it could be better.
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dr.m0x said:
Tbh I can't tell much different between the quality of this screen and the iphone 4. Except that ours is bigger of course.
I love this phone. Now that I am sense free with cyanogenmod its easily the fastest phone I've ever seen.
The only real ***** is the usual one with htc phones. Htc always put **** external speaker in their phones. Its still useable but compared to some of the other smart phones out there it could be better.
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When you hear that DONG on blackberry, there is that real feel to it, on Sensation it's more like donk

Fitztang said:
about the screen,
maybe it's not as beautiful as I-PHONE, but I think the quality is very good already.
It's a good phone, I like it very much
so~~~many things here, you can discover to modify you phone, and improve it performance.
Don;t worry, just check it out ~XD
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I came from an Iphone and I think I actually prefer the sensations screen... im not sure why!

TB Build Quality

As much as I hate to rant, I don't know where else would be appropriate to do so, so ignore this if you don't care.
I have own htc devices since the ppc6700. I have owned an iPhone and a Moto droid, but the rest htc. I have always found htc to build a quality product. I love the phone internals and gingerbread, oh and the kickstand has become imperative, but I feel like this is the worst quality htc handset I have ever owned. Since launch day I'm on my 5th phone. All manufacturer warranty exchanges. I had 2 recessed power buttons, one recessed volume rocker, and a broken wifi. The power button is again begining to recess more every day, on all of my tb's the metal finish on the kickstand flaked of.....I mean is anyone else kind of disappointed here? Have I just had ****ty luck? I am so gentle with these things I really don't understand what's going on.

Sweeny Russ said:
As much as I hate to rant, I don't know where else would be appropriate to do so, so ignore this if you don't care.
I have own htc devices since the ppc6700. I have owned an iPhone and a Moto droid, but the rest htc. I have always found htc to build a quality product. I love the phone internals and gingerbread, oh and the kickstand has become imperative, but I feel like this is the worst quality htc handset I have ever owned. Since launch day I'm on my 5th phone. All manufacturer warranty exchanges. I had 2 recessed power buttons, one recessed volume rocker, and a broken wifi. The power button is again begining to recess more every day, on all of my tb's the metal finish on the kickstand flaked of.....I mean is anyone else kind of disappointed here? Have I just had ****ty luck? I am so gentle with these things I really don't understand what's going on.
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Still on my first phone no screen cover, no phone case, rooted and flashed many ROMS and radios. So far so good, holding strong till Incredible HD
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Had mine a month. Had one shut down that required a battery pull to get the phone to come on. Kickstand coating is just beginning to peel. Not happy about that, but been a good phone otherwise.
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Thought I would add that my brother bought one and has had his about three Weeks. He's sending his back due to constantly losing data coverage in the same area I'm in and his phone vibration rarely works. Stock Roms for both of us. And his kickstand is warped, but he keeps his in his pocket and I use a clip-on.
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Funny this post popped up.
My power button went kaput tonight.

I'm on my 5th t bolt as well, horrible build quality. My latest phone runs great but the screen has a green hue to it and the power button was messed up out of the box. All five of mine have had messed up power buttons (either out of the box or within a month) a retarded proximity sensor and the speakers and mics are poor quality and make this horrible as a phone (luckily I don't talk much) and one of them wasn't stable at 1 ghz, I had to underclock it to 800 mhz to stop the shut downs.
I got this phone because I know most of their phones are great, but even people I know who were big time HTC fans switched over to the charge. I really don't want to swap for a Samsung or LG but thats all they will switch my phone for, I wish they would switch it for a Motorola to get me through until my upgrade.

I'm at about 4 months or so with the TBolt and no issues what-so-ever. I have flashed numerous ROMs, kernels and radios over and over and no issues there either. Only thing is the kickstand has a few little flakes coming off but whatever it's a phone not an antique to be worried about. I actually think the build quality is quite nice and I like how it feels sturdy in my hands not glass like the jesusphone or plasticy like other Android phones I have had....ATRIX!!!!

Mustang302LX said:
I'm at about 4 months or so with the TBolt and no issues what-so-ever. I have flashed numerous ROMs, kernels and radios over and over and no issues there either. Only thing is the kickstand has a few little flakes coming off but whatever it's a phone not an antique to be worried about. I actually think the build quality is quite nice and I like how it feels sturdy in my hands not glass like the jesusphone or plasticy like other Android phones I have had....ATRIX!!!!
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Oh good, I'm not the only one around here that calls it the jesusphone, lol.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/JesusPhone

only problems I've had on our 2 bolts is peeling of the kickstand. It's not hd2 build quality, but not bad. I don't like the plastic feel of the samsung devices.

I just called to have my 6th t bolt sent to me. I shouldn't have given up my Droid X, that was a great phone.

All the tbolts are buggy. Why send one back?

nrfitchett4 said:
only problems I've had on our 2 bolts is peeling of the kickstand. It's not hd2 build quality, but not bad. I don't like the plastic feel of the samsung devices.
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The HD2 has to be the best, most beautifully built phone I've ever owned.
Have you guys been offered any other phones in exchange? I've gone through 3 replacements and they haven't offered me any other phones.
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I have two original TB's and havent had any problems with either. Maybe its the luck of the draw. I am also very nice to my phones. As for well built, the OG droid will never be beat.

recDNA said:
All the tbolts are buggy. Why send one back?
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Cause when your battery pops, or your earpeace is horribly distorted, or your WiFi doesn't work, or your proximity sensor is wiggin out, or your headphone jack doesn't work, you return it. I would love to get my hands on a thunderbolt without any issues, new or referb.
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migueltherocker said:
The HD2 has to be the best, most beautifully built phone I've ever owned.
Have you guys been offered any other phones in exchange? I've gone through 3 replacements and they haven't offered me any other phones.
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They offered me the charge or revolution but I don't plan to own anymore Samsung or LG after all the crappy phones from them over the years. So far blackberry and Motorola have been th only good phones I owned.
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I would love to get my hands on a thunderbolt without any issues, new or referb.
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Me too, or a Bionic.
I think the reason I keep getting crappy phones is because these refurbished/certified phones suck and was someone else's reject before we get them.

Yea, I've had no problems on the functionality/software front. My problem is this is the most I've ever paid for a device on contract so I refuse to use one with a messed up power button, or a flakey kickstand, or wifi radio that's broken. I only bought this phone because:
1. Wanted unlimited data
2. Wanted 4g
3. Good Past experiences with HTC
I planned to upgrade to the bionic and give this phone to the fiance, but it took too long and now I'm not impressed with it. I love the experience and functionality of this phone. I like the charge too, but the only thing that pisses me off about the charge is that the browser is crippled. Its so laggy that it would make me embarresed to show my buddies with an iPhone something on the web.
With all this being said, I think the droid/nexus prime will be my next device. Reason being is that google has official stated that android will be focusing on OMAP compatibility in ice cream sandwich development, and I have a feeling the vigor will ship with a Qualcomm chipset. That combined with my thunderbolt experience. Still, I see no other devices on verizon currently that catch my interest.

I have no idea how some of you go through so many devices. It really blows my mind. I've had no issues at all with this thing.

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I planned to upgrade to the bionic and give this phone to the fiance, but it took too long and now I'm not impressed with it. I love the experience and functionality of this phone. I like the charge too, but the only thing that pisses me off about the charge is that the browser is crippled. Its so laggy that it would make me embarresed to show my buddies with an iPhone something on the web.
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I'd love to have a Bionic, but I'm not using an upgrade for it. They told me I could do an early upgrade since I've had so many problems but I feel I should be entitled to a decent phone since I already paid them $270 for this pos. I wasn't suppose to get an upgrade until may, and I want to hold out until then to get a phone that'll hold me over for 2 years but I need a phone to get me through until then and all they offer is Samsung and LG which I stay away from (phones only, I love my Samsung tv and I keep eyeing a galaxy tab). The only reason I don't switch to the charge is poor signal, all of my old Samsung phones had poor signal and most reviews I read about the charge mentioned that as one of the cons. If the browser is the only thing holding back from a charge why don't you try a 3rd party browser?

eraursls1984 said:
I just called to have my 6th t bolt sent to me. I shouldn't have given up my Droid X, that was a great phone.
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After going through 6 of them you'd think they'd try to offer you something else. I've been through 3 so far & as soon as I get an extra $310 I'm done with Verizon/HTC.

JillyBohnson said:
After going through 6 of them you'd think they'd try to offer you something else. I've been through 3 so far & as soon as I get an extra $310 I'm done with Verizon/HTC.
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They have offered, but they've only offered the charge and revolution and I've already had all the crappy Samsung and LG phones that I care to. I'd go back to a Droid X if they would refund some of the $270 I spent on this piece.