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does anyone know if there is / will be a cameraless version of the Touch Pro? Or any of the newer phones that is... Treo Pro, Omnia, Diamond, etc... I'm still stuck at Hermes level by Cingular. Does AT&T still make versions without cameras?
Why do you want a camera less version? Why not just get the normal one and not use the camera?
Because he works in a place (or goes to a school) where camera's are prohibited, due to there being sensitive documents (or children) about.
Maybe it helps,when you put a piece of sticky tape on the camera chip under the cover disable camera icon in album,turn off touchflo and delete camera shortcut from programs,so all access to camera app will be disabled. If someone will ask,if you are able to take pictures with it,just give him for a test to take the picture. Or make a small triangle from black plastics and stick it on the alluminium one. Yes,but what with the 3G camera?
Thats correct. A place where cars are around that noone has seen yet. A camera would cost me my job, not even a cameraphone with deactivated camera is allowed. So the AT&T (or until now Cingular) phones where great, because I could show them, they are *manufactured* without camera (though I know the modul is just pulled inside and a black cover where the lens was). Of course it's a real pita to find those on ebay, and from someone that ships to germany too
Mercedes, BMW or Audi I wonder
@TomasNM: in case they ask, I have to prove that the phone was manufactured without camera, i.e. you can order or buy it somewhere. Of course I can fake the camera be gone, but when I have a HTC something for example, I need to be able to show that there is one without camera (like nokia E51 for example).
@NLS: Audi.
there's quite a demand for phones without camera, but it's more or less ignored by companys. Only one so far besides Nokia I know is Cingular, and that was only because they couldn't get their video network to work
Yes,I was in april at BMW in Germany for a bussinesstrip. Everywhere is taking photos strictly disallowed,but I needed some to take(of ours machine for documentation),so I just did it with Olympus camera,not only with HTC Hurricane(my bussiness phone). Everybody thought,I am crazy,but I didn't care. Hahaha. Sorry La....ut. Anyway,our machines are for the welding of already-known parts of BMWs and my pictures was without those parts,so no secret things goes out(if someone wants to ask).
BMW is quite easy on cameras, and in Audi manufacturing part noone cares also (everyone I know that works there has a cameraphone). Though I work in the technical development area, and it's quite different there... There are several cases of termination of work contract...
Considering how difficult it is to get a phone now that doesnt have a camera. Cant you just explain the situation with your boss?
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Thats correct. A place where cars are around that noone has seen yet. A camera would cost me my job, not even a cameraphone with deactivated camera is allowed. So the AT&T (or until now Cingular) phones where great, because I could show them, they are *manufactured* without camera (though I know the modul is just pulled inside and a black cover where the lens was). Of course it's a real pita to find those on ebay, and from someone that ships to germany too
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Pictures, or it didn't happen!
LOL, J/K
What about physically removing the camera and making a little cover to cover the hole. Ive heard of people doing that. Ive also heard there are companies that will do it for you if you don't have the skills. When I worked at 3M it was worse,we simply were not allowed to have phones of any kind in the plant at all. At our plant,we had could have them in the offices,up front but not in the actual manufacturing facility.
If I did that with say,my mogul,I think I would get one of the 3rd party extended batteries with the cover that doesnt have the markings that indicate there is a camera. That way,I would have a phone,with no camera,and a little plastic or rubber plug over a hole,where there is no camera. (rubber plug might be better,that way if someone really thought there was a camera,you could pull out the plug and show them,nothing there. )
There will be a cameraless version, why is everyone douvting it? The 8125, 8525, and Tilt all have had cameraless counterparts.
I'm not doubting, I have asked the bad thing about it, is you have to wait ~2 generations of phones until they pop up on ebay....
(and explaining such a situation to the boss of 30.000 ppl that you maybe saw once on TV is a bit difficult)
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What about physically removing the camera and making a little cover to cover the hole. Ive heard of people doing that.
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There are some Qteks around, with pushmail and everything, but only for upper management. They just have a sticker on the camera, but they are registered with numbers. Also there's a department that has camera phones in an isolated area, those are the ppl that work on bluetooth in the car etc., but again everything registered. Since I'm external, i.e. working for a company that works for that company, there's no way to get in a situation to be *allowed* to have a secured camera phone.
I the case of the Touch Pro there are 2 cameras that need to be removed / disabled, making it even more difficult to do oneself to the satisfaction required.
Ill send you my Nokia 2110.... and in return I get a pic of the RS8?
no need for the nokia
http://www.auto-motor-und-sport.de/news/auto_-_produkte/hxcms_article_504320_14204.hbs
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Considering how difficult it is to get a phone now that doesnt have a camera. Cant you just explain the situation with your boss?
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HP Ipaq 614. Not as cool as the Rapahel, but still a reasonable phone. Without any camera!
Eriol
Maybe this will help/guide/... you: click.
I've been looking around for a wile now and can seem to only find two devises.
Onemoreface which isn't even being manufactured yet. And, one for the iphone.
Has anyone tested the iphone one on their G2? Also, does anyone know of any other accessories that would work?
Thanks in advance,
Groboto
I was thinking about this the other day and thought about building something, which would probably end up looking really ghetto.
Do you have a link to the iphone one? I would love something like this for my phone.
http://www.isnapme.com/
http://www.isnapme.com/
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http://www.isnapme.com/
http://www.isnapme.com/
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It only goes to show how insensitive HTC became when they were designing the G2 & DZ to leave out the front camera.
Had I fully explored the DZ, I probably would have given it a miss for not having a front-facing camera like the one on the TP2; I took it as a given.
I'll get that iSnapMe when i get my Z and test it out for you Although Onemoreface does look nicer Infact i wrote an article about that this morning lol
http://goo.gl/H4OSv
I am starting a summer internship next week at a company that doesn't allow cameras. I need to permanently disable the camera. What's the best way? My thought was black epoxy. I've only ever done one before, but it was a crappy flip phone so I just took tools to it until I managed to break the camera, not doing that on the Cappy.
It isn't difficult to disassemble the captivate and remove the camera altogether. The you would just have to contend with the opening.
How strict are they and how do they enforce the policy? Can you just uninstall or freeze the camera software so it can't function? If you use a cover for it, can you permanently seal the camera opening?
Yes, I know there are easy ways for you to still take a picture, but is it enough to show a "good faith" attempt to disable it?
Sent from my Cappy.
Might be able to spray some plasti-dip on the lens (after masking everything else off) to cover it up semi-permanently. It won't come off until you try to peel it off and wont let a residue. Pretty much this: http://pocketnow.com/android/diy-soft-touch-rubberized-nexus-s-backing except not the whole back of course.
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I am starting a summer internship next week at a company that doesn't allow cameras. I need to permanently disable the camera. What's the best way? My thought was black epoxy. I've only ever done one before, but it was a crappy flip phone so I just took tools to it until I managed to break the camera, not doing that on the Cappy.
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Oh Man Sounds like someone is working at pfizers lol. If that is the case, The last time i was there for the same thing, epoxy wont work, I had to use a phone that didnt have a camera built in at all. I would double check just to be sure. would hate for you to do all this and then not be able to use it there anyway.
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How strict are they and how do they enforce the policy? Can you just uninstall or freeze the camera software so it can't function? If you use a cover for it, can you permanently seal the camera opening?
Yes, I know there are easy ways for you to still take a picture, but is it enough to show a "good faith" attempt to disable it?
Sent from my Cappy.
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No, they won't allow a software change, but on the other hand, in fact it has to still work so that they can check that the camera can't see anything.
I don't want to physically remove the camera, as I've heard phone software can freak out when a camera isn't there, and it would be a lot easier if I can still go into the Camera app and show them that it doesn't work.
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Oh Man Sounds like someone is working at pfizers lol. If that is the case, The last time i was there for the same thing, epoxy wont work, I had to use a phone that didnt have a camera built in at all. I would double check just to be sure. would hate for you to do all this and then not be able to use it there anyway.
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Guess again. This company does allow cameras that are permanently physically disabled. I've worked for them before. My plan is to sell the phone inside of the company at the end of the summer, already security approved, and put that towards an SGSII with another line's subsidy.
Pfizer is absurd, they are a private company doing private work and have no legitimate reason to block cameras. My employer does have very legitimate reasons.
why do u disable camera?
Usually secure sites wont even let you take devices with cameras in. You cant just say "Oh its disabled" and they allow the phone in. What about swapping sim cards to a difference device?
Private companys do this to prevent industrial espionage among other things.
But yeah this is a market the phone makers ignore. A galaxy s variant or droid with no camera would sell to the government/high tech sector.
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No, they won't allow a software change, but on the other hand, in fact it has to still work so that they can check that the camera can't see anything.
I don't want to physically remove the camera, as I've heard phone software can freak out when a camera isn't there, and it would be a lot easier if I can still go into the Camera app and show them that it doesn't work.
Guess again. This company does allow cameras that are permanently physically disabled. I've worked for them before. My plan is to sell the phone inside of the company at the end of the summer, already security approved, and put that towards an SGSII with another line's subsidy.
Pfizer is absurd, they are a private company doing private work and have no legitimate reason to block cameras. My employer does have very legitimate reasons.
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They have a very good reason for it and the reason is dumb people. To be honest I wold be happy they are allowing you to have the phone. Like Foxwoods there are many reasons people have no need to have their phone while at work to begin with. Well I hope you find a way to kill it but juts be warned that if you do disable the camera on a perm basis you will drop the value of your phone by ALOT!
it's 6 screws on the back, open the usb port, then disconnect and remove the camera from the unit entirely without the use of a tool. Opening the phone is not difficult and you should just be careful and use the smallest cross-tip and flathead available
I would just get a cheap flip phone to use while at work and swap the SIM card from phone to phone. Then you don't have to mess up your cappy and can leave out in the car while at work. You could get a cheap used one on ebay for less than ten bucks.
Sent from my customized Captivate by MikeyMike01 running 2.3.3
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I would just get a cheap flip phone to use while at work and swap the SIM card from phone to phone. Then you don't have to mess up your cappy and can leave out in the car while at work. You could get a cheap used one on ebay for less than ten bucks.
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Bingo. Hell, i'm sure you or someone you know has a Razor laying around.
tquang620 said:
why do u disable camera?
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Why don't you read the original post? The company is military-industrial.
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Usually secure sites wont even let you take devices with cameras in. You cant just say "Oh its disabled" and they allow the phone in. What about swapping sim cards to a difference device?
Private companys do this to prevent industrial espionage among other things.
But yeah this is a market the phone makers ignore. A galaxy s variant or droid with no camera would sell to the government/high tech sector.
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This company's policy is that you have to demonstrate the camera is disabled. They used to not allow cameraphones, but they realized somewhere along the line that was a losing battle.
If they don't have a camera, they are not able to be certified for the Android market, so they can't sell one. Apple wouldn't do an iPhone because they are Apple, and that leaves RIM with the extremely boring Bold 9000. Yawn.
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They have a very good reason for it and the reason is dumb people. To be honest I wold be happy they are allowing you to have the phone. Like Foxwoods there are many reasons people have no need to have their phone while at work to begin with. Well I hope you find a way to kill it but juts be warned that if you do disable the camera on a perm basis you will drop the value of your phone by ALOT!
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Yeah, the policy is a lot better than what they used to have, as there's not much out there with no camera. I understand why they do it, as it's a matter of national security, BUT pfizer is not an asset to national security, they are just a paranoid company apparently.
Foxwoods?
It's not worth that much anyways. I want to sell it within the company, so that would be a feature, not a drawback haha.
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it's 6 screws on the back, open the usb port, then disconnect and remove the camera from the unit entirely without the use of a tool. Opening the phone is not difficult and you should just be careful and use the smallest cross-tip and flathead available
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I can check and see if they will let me do that, but I don't think so, as it could be re-installed. I think it has to be something like Epoxy. I was asking if anyone had any better ideas....
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I would just get a cheap flip phone to use while at work and swap the SIM card from phone to phone. Then you don't have to mess up your cappy and can leave out in the car while at work. You could get a cheap used one on ebay for less than ten bucks.
Sent from my customized Captivate by MikeyMike01 running 2.3.3
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I already have three phones that are allowed to go to work. They are all POS phones. LG C1300, Nokia 2610, and Moto V557 (camera disabled). SIM swapping for the weekend is a PITA.
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Why don't you read the original post? The company is military-industrial.
If they don't have a camera, they are not able to be certified for the Android market, so they can't sell one. Apple wouldn't do an iPhone because they are Apple, and that leaves RIM with the extremely boring Bold 9000. Yawn.
Yeah, the policy is a lot better than what they used to have, as there's not much out there with no camera. I understand why they do it, as it's a matter of national security, BUT pfizer is not an asset to national security, they are just a paranoid company apparently.
Foxwoods?
It's not worth that much anyways. I want to sell it within the company, so that would be a feature, not a drawback haha.
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Hmm military huh well that slims it down. SOunds like EB to me. I know they have a contract with ATT like most of the Bases and what not in CT. ATT offers most high end smart phones without a camera for just this type of work. Had to order one when i started working for them myself. As for better ideas, I would ok the epoxy idea with security first as it should be ok but who knows. As for Pfizer being not a security issue, that I would have to disagree with. The Bio-Medical plant in New London is closely watched by the Gov for a reason.
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Hmm military huh well that slims it down. SOunds like EB to me. I know they have a contract with ATT like most of the Bases and what not in CT. ATT offers most high end smart phones without a camera for just this type of work. Had to order one when i started working for them myself. As for better ideas, I would ok the epoxy idea with security first as it should be ok but who knows. As for Pfizer being not a security issue, that I would have to disagree with. The Bio-Medical plant in New London is closely watched by the Gov for a reason.
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Maaaaybe. The only thing they have to buy is the BB 9000. They may have somewhere that removes cameras and certifies them or something. I am going to check with security, but as far as I know now, the policy is the same as last year (what I described above). You make me want to be scared of Pfizer haha.
The epoxy is the best I can think of. Any better ideas?
I wonder if you could etch the lens with something like hydrofluoric acid from a glass etching kit?
(Disclaimer: I have not tried this and hydrofluoric acid is nasty, nasty ****.)
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Maaaaybe. The only thing they have to buy is the BB 9000. They may have somewhere that removes cameras and certifies them or something. I am going to check with security, but as far as I know now, the policy is the same as last year (what I described above). You make me want to be scared of Pfizer haha.
The epoxy is the best I can think of. Any better ideas?
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That may be the best one they have at the moment. I know ATT and HTC work closely together on it as most of the camera less models were all HTC. Had a tilt 2 without a camera lol. your epoxy might be your best shot.
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If they don't have a camera, they are not able to be certified for the Android market, so they can't sell one.
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I was not aware of this. Has google never heard of security? They are really dropping the ball here. Its not about paranoia. Just because something is not a matter of national security, doesn't mean you want photos of unreleased products leaking, etc.
To be constructive, since instructions to take the camera out of the phone have been posted. What about taking it out, spray painting it and reinstalling?
I'm thinking they won't accept that either... There's still audio recording. Also, the phone has the ability to act as a flash drive. Also, the phone can transfer documents over the cell network. Also, the phone can connect and run in promiscuous mode on a wifi network.
If they're truly concerned about security, those are risks. The camera is only one function.
I would find a hard care like the otter box commuter that has the camera hole cut out and its pretty deep. Then id put a piece of paper between the phone and the silicon inside the case. Put the hard case on and fill the whole with a epoxy/bondo. Once it dries just sand it down and respray the hard case with the phone out. No one will know.
Simply autobody lol.
ok so i've searched all over the place and all i see is the actual camera unit for sale. i can't find the outside piece thats on the case (the glass piece). mine is all scratched up and my pics look like ****. all blurry and fuzzy looking. i'd like to replace it, but can't find that piece. any help would be appreciated. thank you guys.
i found the back cover on ebay and some other site here are the links
http://www.ebay.com/itm/HTC-G2-Misc...784?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3373afe6a8
http://www.globaldirectparts.com/HTC-T-Mobile-G2-Back-Housing-p/htc740405.htm
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i found the back cover on ebay and some other site here are the links
http://www.ebay.com/itm/HTC-G2-Misc...784?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3373afe6a8
http://www.globaldirectparts.com/HTC-T-Mobile-G2-Back-Housing-p/htc740405.htm
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Thanks, mine needs this too. Odd since I've kept this thing in a soft cloth or leather case with felt padding on the inside the whole time...
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i found the back cover on ebay and some other site here are the links
http://www.ebay.com/itm/HTC-G2-Misc...784?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3373afe6a8
http://www.globaldirectparts.com/HTC-T-Mobile-G2-Back-Housing-p/htc740405.htm
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thanks for the links. i actually saw these when i searched the web. i was hoping to only get that small glass piece that covers the camera instead of buying the whole back cover. not sure if it actually comes like that, but if anyone else has any info on it that would be great.
konoplya said:
thanks for the links. i actually saw these when i searched the web. i was hoping to only get that small glass piece that covers the camera instead of buying the whole back cover. not sure if it actually comes like that, but if anyone else has any info on it that would be great.
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From the links, it looks like it's built into the back casing. Kinda makes sense though since it would have to be pressfit on I guess.
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From the links, it looks like it's built into the back casing. Kinda makes sense though since it would have to be pressfit on I guess.
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thats what i was afraid of. i guess i'll buy the back cover. thanks for your help everyone.
Mine too!
I have had the unfortunate results like yourselves. However what I did serves me well enough.
I took a screen protector and cut a small square. Placing that over the camera has removed the haze from my pictures.
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mine is all scratched up and my pics look like ****. all blurry and fuzzy looking. i'd like to replace it, but can't find that piece..
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hmmmm kind of serves you right for keeping your phone unprotected in a pocket with keys or lose change.
next time round get a case/pouch mine covers my entire phone protecting from both scratches and impact damage.
BTW the DZ cam is pretty crappy and blurry any way ........ even by pinhole lens phone cam standards so don't expect miracles once replaced.
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BTW the DZ cam is pretty crappy and blurry any way ........ even by pinhole lens phone cam standards so don't expect miracles once replaced.
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Umm, no. My Z takes pretty good photos. Of course very low light situations will result in longer shutter time, and increased chances for blur due to camera or the subject moving. But in most conditions good photos are very possible, and mostly a matter of technique and experience. Manually adjusting ISO, white balance, taking advantage of what light is present, and bracing the camera can all have major impact on the quality of the photo, even in lower light situations. Moral of the story your problem is likely more the user, and not the equipment. I don't mean that in a pejorative way. But while not the best camera phone around, good photos are possible with the Z, with the proper technique.
I used a mild lens restorer on mine fixed her right up. Perfect pictures again
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Umm, no. My Z takes pretty good photos. Of course very low light situations will result in longer shutter time, and increased chances for blur due to camera or the subject moving. But in most conditions good photos are very possible, and mostly a matter of technique and experience. Manually adjusting ISO, white balance, taking advantage of what light is present, and bracing the camera can all have major impact on the quality of the photo, even in lower light situations. Moral of the story your problem is likely more the user, and not the equipment. I don't mean that in a pejorative way. But while not the best camera phone around, good photos are possible with the Z, with the proper technique.
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No offence bro but considering the fact i was a professional photographer for 6 years straight and still do some work now as a pro photographer.
I have no "problems" with photographic "technique"
Maybe my ideas of 'clear' and 'sharp' digital images is a little more informed and nuanced than yours. But compared to a few other 5mp phone cameras IMHO the Desire Z is on average at best and poor if you want to be critical.
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No offence bro but considering the fact i was a professional photographer for 6 years straight and still do some work now as a pro photographer.
I have no "problems" with photographic "technique"
Maybe my ideas of 'clear' and 'sharp' digital images is a little more informed and nuanced than yours. But compared to a few other 5mp phone cameras IMHO the Desire Z is on average at best and poor if you want to be critical.
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Hard to take your comment of "no offence" seriously, as you are bragging about your photog experience and how much "more informed" you are than me (no basis for any such claim). Why not keep it to a technical discussion, instead of boasting about how awesome you are, "bro"?
Largely comes down to expectations and opinion. Camera phones are largely for spur-of the moment snapshots (not serious photography). For this, the Desire Z is just fine. We are also talking about a phone that is a year and a half old. In its time, its camera was much better (especially low light) than the iPhone iteration of the time (3GS). Were there camera phones at the time that were a bit better, yes, but not drastically. More recent phones have significantly better cameras, and the One X looks to blow away most the competition (except the Nokia Pureview's monster 41 MP camera). But seeing as every other spec on smartphones has come a long way in the past year and a half, its not really fair to compare the Z to newer phones.
Also, seeing as the OP is just looking to restore his present technology to a previous condition, calling it "crappy and blurry" doesn't really help him out at all.
Agree with previous poster, seriously if you want good pics you get an slr or dedicated rig. Most people don't carry that around. For what it is the camera on this phone is very good to good enough depending who you ask and their expectations. Sure beats carrying around a point and shoot or slr multi lens combo. Like I told the OP if your considering getting a new back then try cleaning it up with a mild abrasive like a lens restorer, CD scratch remover something of that nature. I used the stuff for headlights it was like 5 bucks. Don't go crazy I used super minimal pressure and a soft paper towel and it took all of 30 seconds to clear up no joke. Good as new and I haven't had to do it again. In my case it was the anti-reflective coating in the glass, since it was shot who cares right? Came off and pics are sharp again. In the future if I actually scratch it I'll probably buy a replacement but that did it for me. Just my 2 cents.
I had the same problem as you, but I managed to fix it using a polish dedicated to car headlights.
Thaks for the links, i have problems with the camera glass too.
Enviado desde mi HTC Vision usando Tapatalk 2
On my small Pixel (black 128GB edition) I get severe lens flares in situations, that were never a problem for any smartphone before.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pfz8YmHmeJ4 The video here illustrates the issue pretty well, several very well known people on YouTube + Twitter have encountered the exact same problem, including @MKBHD, @DetroitBORG and @superscientific !
I'd like to know if there are devices out there that don't have this problem. You won't see it in all lighting situations, but it's very pronounced in some - where it shouldn't be.
I have.noticed this today on my camera I attached a photo the halo or flair can be seen at the bottom the pale grey around the bottom left and right. Like you say, it's only in certain light conditions and certain angles. Must be the glass that surrounds the lense.
Looks like the the phone has been rushed out and not tested properly.
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This is definitely a design floor as happens if the camera is on its sides, upside down and normal. Really didn't expect this from such a highly priced phone.
Some more photos from me:
I'm talking to support via the built in support. I'll let you know what they say.
I'm taking mine back to the carrier store in an hour. No way I'm going to accept this.
This is happening to me as well. Definitely a deal breaker, unless covering the glass with a case fixes the problem. It's a shame, because the camera blows everything else out of the water.
Been in contact with EE and they have said my handset is defective so they are sending me a new one tomorrow. Excellend support from them, Thought it would have been a pain in the arse
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Been in contact with EE and they have said my handset is defective so they are sending me a new one tomorrow. Excellend support from them, Thought it would have been a pain in the arse
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Well be prepared for disappointment. My phone has it too. I guarantee every Pixel does. Probably because of the subtle curve on the rear glass.
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Well be prepared for disappointment. My phone has it too. I guarantee every Pixel does. Probably because of the subtle curve on the rear glass.
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Yeah I'm not going to hold my breath, but the guy who done the video in the first post had two pixels and only one of them done.this. I'll just keep returning them until I get one that works
Google said they didn't know about this but they have forwarded the link to this thread and the YouTube video so they can investigate further.
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Yeah I'm not going to hold my breath, but the guy who done the video in the first post had two pixels and only one of them done.this. I'll just keep returning them until I get one that works
Google said they didn't know about this but they have forwarded the link to this thread and the YouTube video so they can investigate further.
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https://www.reddit.com/r/GooglePixe...googler_on_halo_effect_can_be_mitigated_with/
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Thanks for the lim, well I can't stop the new phone arriving so I'll just take hold of it and wait for the update.
really
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Do you really believe they are going to eliminate the halo with that approach?
No way. It's a design flaw. The question is how does that digital picture site
give this phone such a high rating and they never saw this in any of their pictures?
This just doesn't add up. I am awaiting the XL to come back in stock to order
but this is a deal breaker for me unless this is a defect on a few phones.
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cc999 said:
Do you really believe they are going to eliminate the halo with that approach?
No way. It's a design flaw. The question is how does that digital picture site
give this phone such a high rating and they never saw this in any of their pictures?
This just doesn't add up. I am awaiting the XL to come back in stock to order
but this is a deal breaker for me unless this is a defect on a few phones.
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DxOMark actually did mention the lens flare/halo if you read the entire review... they just call it something more technical.
Yes, I fully believe they will be able to correct for this issue, at least SOMEWHAT, in software. I think the question will be whether or not they can actually preserve detail in the area where the flare is occurring. Google has pulled off some amazing feats with this camera just because of its software... they're not going to claim to do something they can't do.
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Nitemare3219 said:
DxOMark actually did mention the lens flare/halo if you read the entire review... they just call it something more technical.
Yes, I fully believe they will be able to correct for this issue, at least SOMEWHAT, in software. I think the question will be whether or not they can actually preserve detail in the area where the flare is occurring. Google has pulled off some amazing feats with this camera just because of its software... they're not going to claim to do something they can't do.
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So you are saying this is on all Pixels? Not a defect of a few?
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cc999 said:
So you are saying this is on all Pixels? Not a defect of a few?
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According to Google, yes. The lens assembly is subject to very tight manufacturing tolerances. Every Pixel is going to have this issue.
Got my new phone, and as stated above I still have the flair so I'm really.imterested into what Google can actually do. I'm off to the park with my dog layer so I'll take lots of photos and upload them here if they have any flare issues.
Don't accept this. Take it back to your point of sale. Get another phone. I am so ****ing done with this.
"We completely, retardedly screwed the entire design of our phone and will now make you use a certain camera mode to mitigate (not resolve) the issue in software"
None of you should accept this.
Out of maybe 100 photos I have taken with this phone, you can maybe see it in like 3-4 photos. Only really happens on my end if I am shooting directly into a light source which most photos are pointing away from a light source. It's not like every photo comes out like this.
I am very very happy with this phone and the camera.
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Out of maybe 100 photos I have taken with this phone, you can maybe see it in like 3-4 photos. Only really happens on my end if I am shooting directly into a light source which most photos are pointing away from a light source. It's not like every photo comes out like this.
I am very very happy with this phone and the camera.
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Just been to the park and took some photos only one photo out of about 50 had a halo. I believe Google will fix this.
I've added some of the photos i took today.