does anyone know if there is / will be a cameraless version of the Touch Pro? Or any of the newer phones that is... Treo Pro, Omnia, Diamond, etc... I'm still stuck at Hermes level by Cingular. Does AT&T still make versions without cameras?
Why do you want a camera less version? Why not just get the normal one and not use the camera?
Because he works in a place (or goes to a school) where camera's are prohibited, due to there being sensitive documents (or children) about.
Maybe it helps,when you put a piece of sticky tape on the camera chip under the cover disable camera icon in album,turn off touchflo and delete camera shortcut from programs,so all access to camera app will be disabled. If someone will ask,if you are able to take pictures with it,just give him for a test to take the picture. Or make a small triangle from black plastics and stick it on the alluminium one. Yes,but what with the 3G camera?
Thats correct. A place where cars are around that noone has seen yet. A camera would cost me my job, not even a cameraphone with deactivated camera is allowed. So the AT&T (or until now Cingular) phones where great, because I could show them, they are *manufactured* without camera (though I know the modul is just pulled inside and a black cover where the lens was). Of course it's a real pita to find those on ebay, and from someone that ships to germany too
Mercedes, BMW or Audi I wonder
@TomasNM: in case they ask, I have to prove that the phone was manufactured without camera, i.e. you can order or buy it somewhere. Of course I can fake the camera be gone, but when I have a HTC something for example, I need to be able to show that there is one without camera (like nokia E51 for example).
@NLS: Audi.
there's quite a demand for phones without camera, but it's more or less ignored by companys. Only one so far besides Nokia I know is Cingular, and that was only because they couldn't get their video network to work
Yes,I was in april at BMW in Germany for a bussinesstrip. Everywhere is taking photos strictly disallowed,but I needed some to take(of ours machine for documentation),so I just did it with Olympus camera,not only with HTC Hurricane(my bussiness phone). Everybody thought,I am crazy,but I didn't care. Hahaha. Sorry La....ut. Anyway,our machines are for the welding of already-known parts of BMWs and my pictures was without those parts,so no secret things goes out(if someone wants to ask).
BMW is quite easy on cameras, and in Audi manufacturing part noone cares also (everyone I know that works there has a cameraphone). Though I work in the technical development area, and it's quite different there... There are several cases of termination of work contract...
Considering how difficult it is to get a phone now that doesnt have a camera. Cant you just explain the situation with your boss?
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Thats correct. A place where cars are around that noone has seen yet. A camera would cost me my job, not even a cameraphone with deactivated camera is allowed. So the AT&T (or until now Cingular) phones where great, because I could show them, they are *manufactured* without camera (though I know the modul is just pulled inside and a black cover where the lens was). Of course it's a real pita to find those on ebay, and from someone that ships to germany too
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Pictures, or it didn't happen!
LOL, J/K
What about physically removing the camera and making a little cover to cover the hole. Ive heard of people doing that. Ive also heard there are companies that will do it for you if you don't have the skills. When I worked at 3M it was worse,we simply were not allowed to have phones of any kind in the plant at all. At our plant,we had could have them in the offices,up front but not in the actual manufacturing facility.
If I did that with say,my mogul,I think I would get one of the 3rd party extended batteries with the cover that doesnt have the markings that indicate there is a camera. That way,I would have a phone,with no camera,and a little plastic or rubber plug over a hole,where there is no camera. (rubber plug might be better,that way if someone really thought there was a camera,you could pull out the plug and show them,nothing there. )
There will be a cameraless version, why is everyone douvting it? The 8125, 8525, and Tilt all have had cameraless counterparts.
I'm not doubting, I have asked the bad thing about it, is you have to wait ~2 generations of phones until they pop up on ebay....
(and explaining such a situation to the boss of 30.000 ppl that you maybe saw once on TV is a bit difficult)
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What about physically removing the camera and making a little cover to cover the hole. Ive heard of people doing that.
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There are some Qteks around, with pushmail and everything, but only for upper management. They just have a sticker on the camera, but they are registered with numbers. Also there's a department that has camera phones in an isolated area, those are the ppl that work on bluetooth in the car etc., but again everything registered. Since I'm external, i.e. working for a company that works for that company, there's no way to get in a situation to be *allowed* to have a secured camera phone.
I the case of the Touch Pro there are 2 cameras that need to be removed / disabled, making it even more difficult to do oneself to the satisfaction required.
Ill send you my Nokia 2110.... and in return I get a pic of the RS8?
no need for the nokia
http://www.auto-motor-und-sport.de/news/auto_-_produkte/hxcms_article_504320_14204.hbs
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Considering how difficult it is to get a phone now that doesnt have a camera. Cant you just explain the situation with your boss?
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HP Ipaq 614. Not as cool as the Rapahel, but still a reasonable phone. Without any camera!
Eriol
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HI,
The otherday i was cleaning and changing the case of my Magician.
I made a wrong move and pulled out the camera, lucky the camera was connected by what it looks like a socket.
So yea, im just wondering, would it be possible to buy another camera module, coz the camera is just plain crap.
im just looking at ways of improving my magician lol.
whitemoo.
if its a standard conection id say yes i did a cam change on an old nec e808y it worked so i cant see why not id head off to maplin and pick up a cam let me know how you get on or if you get stuck
Actually the Magician's camera is a bit... weird. It hangs off by a thin parallel connection instead of being soldered to the board, which I don't think many other cameras do. I dunno, I've given up all hope on that terrible camera
ive just about given up hope to, im only wondering cause my real digicamera is in repair, and im itching to take photo's.
I was looking at aftermarket parts for camera phones, and saw camera modules which looked like they had similar connections, so there might be hope.
When i do get my real digicamera back from repair ill take some high res shots of the connector, and aftermarket case's for reference on this forum.
Whitemoo.
yer get some shots of where it connects to the phone as well
Can anyone give me a detailed description of how to change the case of O2 mini. I have tried to open the case many times but failed. iam afraid i might void the warranty.
Hi maharishi_b,
ill be giving my detailed photo's of the inside of the xda mini soon, and photo's of aftermarket cases i bought off ebay, compared to the original. This will all come soon.
you will need a plastic case opener similar to what they use to open the ipod's, and a torx screwdriver.
Theres a post with pictures on how to open it, but i cant seem to find it.
Whitemoo.
Torx size 6 to be precise. Stupid seller who sold me my casing shipped me a size 5, and I almost made the bottom two screws round before I realised.
Also I dont use the plastic case opener - I find a thin metal thing to be more effective, though I dont know what its called - it holds the binding thing... nevermind.
From what I understand - the socket to hold the front camera is indeed on our beloved HTC Fuze units.
My question is this:
1. Can we order the part from HTC?
2. It looks like it would be easy enough to install (just cut a hole where it should be) - but what about device drivers and such?
I see that there IS indeed someone out here that has a unit with a front camera - perpahs we can get the drivers off his unit or extract them from a ROM that uses this?
Thoughts....suggestions...???
Thanks!
Not worth it if you ask me..... finding the part is going to be a btch....
better off simply buying an unlocked Touch Pro and enjoying a nicer keyboard layout while you're at it
hmmm...well interesting thoughts. My only issue with that is a) I'm on ATT so a touch pro isn't going to help me out and b) I thought the sprint version of this unit didn't have the front camera either???
I haven't had the guts to actually take my fuze apart yet - I wonder if that camera is acutally there and just simply covered up by the case. My guess is that it's not so they could save the 20 cents on the part..haha.
Tell ya what though - I'm getting sick and tired of these USA carriers ripping us off. The sprint one doesnt have the FM radio - none appear to have the front camera - the verizon didn't have the gps until recently...like WTF they keep selling us these bull**** crippled devices for? Blow 100's of bucks on these units and then the damn carrier turns off or removes all the cool stuff in em? geeeze! Its enough for me to sit down and write a letter to my senator and complain about these unfair practices....
Edit: Ok I just sent an email to HTC asking for the part number and if they would sell me the part - so we'll see.
Also - can anyone clear this up - which versions of the phone actually DO have the front camera? I've seen some websites that compare specs but they seem inaccurate as the website also said the sprint one had an FM radio ability and the fuze did not....
no american phone will have a front camera. they restrict whatever they can to save money. most notably the amount of stuff on the iphone limited to wifi only because att says so. att does do video share but since it takes it from the wrong camera, they hope people will buy the service and never use it. if they put on a front facing camera people would be doing anything they could to use it for free on their network. they would have to pay extra for the bandwidth used by their customers and get nothing back. that doesnt sound very american. the unlocked touch pro doesnt work on american gsm 3g so it would be useless to try to do video with it. and cutting apart your fuze will probably do alot of damage to your touch screen. you will break it, dont try.
"... that doesnt sound very american...."
No it does not. But guess what! I'm willing to trash 3 or 4 units to get it to work..and belive me I will. I have the part # now and have 6 front cameras on the way. ($56US) and they will be here next wednesday.
What DOES sound "ameican" is gettin the **** to work! arrrg!
-TechnoHippie
you sir...
are a very brave man.. good luck on your endeavors and share the results if you manage to sucessfully create it!
Good luck!
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"... that doesnt sound very american...."
No it does not. But guess what! I'm willing to trash 3 or 4 units to get it to work..and belive me I will. I have the part # now and have 6 front cameras on the way. ($56US) and they will be here next wednesday.
What DOES sound "ameican" is gettin the **** to work! arrrg!
-TechnoHippie
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lol I must say that this man is a true american ... I in no way condone what you are doing though.
actually i am surprised they dont have mini usb camera's that we can just plug in to the phone yet. That should be cheaper and less work
Explain me please....
Can anybody explain which are the models that allows video calls. I leave in Argentina, bought my touch Pro in Paraguay and as long as I can see this one does have the front camera. When I try ta make a video call a Warning say to me:
"The 3G network is not available. Do you want to make a voice call instead."
A this time I have a beautiful "G" icon showing at the top off the screen and the Wap conexion icon also Showing the "G" letter and full five bars strong signal meter. Thank you.
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"... that doesnt sound very american...."
No it does not. But guess what! I'm willing to trash 3 or 4 units to get it to work..and belive me I will. I have the part # now and have 6 front cameras on the way. ($56US) and they will be here next wednesday.
What DOES sound "ameican" is gettin the **** to work! arrrg!
-TechnoHippie
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It may have been an idea to also purchase a new TOUCH pro flex cable for the screen aswell?
I haven't personally opened a TP up but my understanding is the front camera fits onto the same mebrane which connects to the front speaker/light sensor and the screen and as such, it is likely the Fuze may not have the socket soldered on for the camera?
good luck!
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Can anybody explain which are the models that allows video calls. I leave in Argentina, bought my touch Pro in Paraguay and as long as I can see this one does have the front camera. When I try ta make a video call a Warning say to me:
"The 3G network is not available. Do you want to make a voice call instead."
A this time I have a beautiful "G" icon showing at the top off the screen and the Wap conexion icon also Showing the "G" letter and full five bars strong signal meter. Thank you.
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not to sound rude, but the ones that allow video calls witht he front camera are the ones that has the front camera. Just take a look at the actual product, if there is indeed a camera on the top right of the screen (where the ATT logo would've been), then you should be able to do video calls (again, considering that the network you're in has the capabilities.) Good luck
if you get it in, good for you. i wonder how much support there will be though. if the device hasnt removed the ability to use that from a bios-ish point. but if you get it in and it doesnt work, you can pretend you have a non american touch pro by looks alone.
i wonder how much a mirror costs...
Over 9000! pennies.....
I know this is a weird request, but does anyone know where I might get a Nexus One battery cover that doesn't have the camera opening?
Cameras are not allowed where I work, and I can't imagine going a whole day using a dumbphone.
Will that actually work though?
They could claim you could just pop the cover off and then your camera would work again. You'd essentially be smuggling a camera in... which I'm guessing if you work some place that doesn't allow camera phones in the first place, this would be an even bigger no no.
a thing like that would be just so senseless, it simply can not exist
three words: do it yourself (or: get a new job )
Facilities with classified data/information/materials will not allow cameras. Getting a battery cover without the opening for the camera will not be conducive to the possibility of keeping your job. Co-workers will ask about what phone you have. They will Google. They will find out that it does have a camera. I would definitely just stick to a blackberry in your situation, it's not worth losing your job.
That being said, the camera is raised. A flat battery cover will not fit. A battery cover that is not flat will appear suspicious and awkward.
Call HTC and ask for a camera - less Nexus One.
If you don't mind voiding your warranty, open it up and remove the camera temporarily. It shouldn't be too hard to do.
But yeah, it's not worth losing your job over. Just get a rubbish little work phone.
I am starting a summer internship next week at a company that doesn't allow cameras. I need to permanently disable the camera. What's the best way? My thought was black epoxy. I've only ever done one before, but it was a crappy flip phone so I just took tools to it until I managed to break the camera, not doing that on the Cappy.
It isn't difficult to disassemble the captivate and remove the camera altogether. The you would just have to contend with the opening.
How strict are they and how do they enforce the policy? Can you just uninstall or freeze the camera software so it can't function? If you use a cover for it, can you permanently seal the camera opening?
Yes, I know there are easy ways for you to still take a picture, but is it enough to show a "good faith" attempt to disable it?
Sent from my Cappy.
Might be able to spray some plasti-dip on the lens (after masking everything else off) to cover it up semi-permanently. It won't come off until you try to peel it off and wont let a residue. Pretty much this: http://pocketnow.com/android/diy-soft-touch-rubberized-nexus-s-backing except not the whole back of course.
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I am starting a summer internship next week at a company that doesn't allow cameras. I need to permanently disable the camera. What's the best way? My thought was black epoxy. I've only ever done one before, but it was a crappy flip phone so I just took tools to it until I managed to break the camera, not doing that on the Cappy.
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Oh Man Sounds like someone is working at pfizers lol. If that is the case, The last time i was there for the same thing, epoxy wont work, I had to use a phone that didnt have a camera built in at all. I would double check just to be sure. would hate for you to do all this and then not be able to use it there anyway.
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How strict are they and how do they enforce the policy? Can you just uninstall or freeze the camera software so it can't function? If you use a cover for it, can you permanently seal the camera opening?
Yes, I know there are easy ways for you to still take a picture, but is it enough to show a "good faith" attempt to disable it?
Sent from my Cappy.
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No, they won't allow a software change, but on the other hand, in fact it has to still work so that they can check that the camera can't see anything.
I don't want to physically remove the camera, as I've heard phone software can freak out when a camera isn't there, and it would be a lot easier if I can still go into the Camera app and show them that it doesn't work.
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Oh Man Sounds like someone is working at pfizers lol. If that is the case, The last time i was there for the same thing, epoxy wont work, I had to use a phone that didnt have a camera built in at all. I would double check just to be sure. would hate for you to do all this and then not be able to use it there anyway.
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Guess again. This company does allow cameras that are permanently physically disabled. I've worked for them before. My plan is to sell the phone inside of the company at the end of the summer, already security approved, and put that towards an SGSII with another line's subsidy.
Pfizer is absurd, they are a private company doing private work and have no legitimate reason to block cameras. My employer does have very legitimate reasons.
why do u disable camera?
Usually secure sites wont even let you take devices with cameras in. You cant just say "Oh its disabled" and they allow the phone in. What about swapping sim cards to a difference device?
Private companys do this to prevent industrial espionage among other things.
But yeah this is a market the phone makers ignore. A galaxy s variant or droid with no camera would sell to the government/high tech sector.
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No, they won't allow a software change, but on the other hand, in fact it has to still work so that they can check that the camera can't see anything.
I don't want to physically remove the camera, as I've heard phone software can freak out when a camera isn't there, and it would be a lot easier if I can still go into the Camera app and show them that it doesn't work.
Guess again. This company does allow cameras that are permanently physically disabled. I've worked for them before. My plan is to sell the phone inside of the company at the end of the summer, already security approved, and put that towards an SGSII with another line's subsidy.
Pfizer is absurd, they are a private company doing private work and have no legitimate reason to block cameras. My employer does have very legitimate reasons.
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They have a very good reason for it and the reason is dumb people. To be honest I wold be happy they are allowing you to have the phone. Like Foxwoods there are many reasons people have no need to have their phone while at work to begin with. Well I hope you find a way to kill it but juts be warned that if you do disable the camera on a perm basis you will drop the value of your phone by ALOT!
it's 6 screws on the back, open the usb port, then disconnect and remove the camera from the unit entirely without the use of a tool. Opening the phone is not difficult and you should just be careful and use the smallest cross-tip and flathead available
I would just get a cheap flip phone to use while at work and swap the SIM card from phone to phone. Then you don't have to mess up your cappy and can leave out in the car while at work. You could get a cheap used one on ebay for less than ten bucks.
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I would just get a cheap flip phone to use while at work and swap the SIM card from phone to phone. Then you don't have to mess up your cappy and can leave out in the car while at work. You could get a cheap used one on ebay for less than ten bucks.
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Bingo. Hell, i'm sure you or someone you know has a Razor laying around.
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why do u disable camera?
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Why don't you read the original post? The company is military-industrial.
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Usually secure sites wont even let you take devices with cameras in. You cant just say "Oh its disabled" and they allow the phone in. What about swapping sim cards to a difference device?
Private companys do this to prevent industrial espionage among other things.
But yeah this is a market the phone makers ignore. A galaxy s variant or droid with no camera would sell to the government/high tech sector.
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This company's policy is that you have to demonstrate the camera is disabled. They used to not allow cameraphones, but they realized somewhere along the line that was a losing battle.
If they don't have a camera, they are not able to be certified for the Android market, so they can't sell one. Apple wouldn't do an iPhone because they are Apple, and that leaves RIM with the extremely boring Bold 9000. Yawn.
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They have a very good reason for it and the reason is dumb people. To be honest I wold be happy they are allowing you to have the phone. Like Foxwoods there are many reasons people have no need to have their phone while at work to begin with. Well I hope you find a way to kill it but juts be warned that if you do disable the camera on a perm basis you will drop the value of your phone by ALOT!
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Yeah, the policy is a lot better than what they used to have, as there's not much out there with no camera. I understand why they do it, as it's a matter of national security, BUT pfizer is not an asset to national security, they are just a paranoid company apparently.
Foxwoods?
It's not worth that much anyways. I want to sell it within the company, so that would be a feature, not a drawback haha.
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it's 6 screws on the back, open the usb port, then disconnect and remove the camera from the unit entirely without the use of a tool. Opening the phone is not difficult and you should just be careful and use the smallest cross-tip and flathead available
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I can check and see if they will let me do that, but I don't think so, as it could be re-installed. I think it has to be something like Epoxy. I was asking if anyone had any better ideas....
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I would just get a cheap flip phone to use while at work and swap the SIM card from phone to phone. Then you don't have to mess up your cappy and can leave out in the car while at work. You could get a cheap used one on ebay for less than ten bucks.
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I already have three phones that are allowed to go to work. They are all POS phones. LG C1300, Nokia 2610, and Moto V557 (camera disabled). SIM swapping for the weekend is a PITA.
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Why don't you read the original post? The company is military-industrial.
If they don't have a camera, they are not able to be certified for the Android market, so they can't sell one. Apple wouldn't do an iPhone because they are Apple, and that leaves RIM with the extremely boring Bold 9000. Yawn.
Yeah, the policy is a lot better than what they used to have, as there's not much out there with no camera. I understand why they do it, as it's a matter of national security, BUT pfizer is not an asset to national security, they are just a paranoid company apparently.
Foxwoods?
It's not worth that much anyways. I want to sell it within the company, so that would be a feature, not a drawback haha.
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Hmm military huh well that slims it down. SOunds like EB to me. I know they have a contract with ATT like most of the Bases and what not in CT. ATT offers most high end smart phones without a camera for just this type of work. Had to order one when i started working for them myself. As for better ideas, I would ok the epoxy idea with security first as it should be ok but who knows. As for Pfizer being not a security issue, that I would have to disagree with. The Bio-Medical plant in New London is closely watched by the Gov for a reason.
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Hmm military huh well that slims it down. SOunds like EB to me. I know they have a contract with ATT like most of the Bases and what not in CT. ATT offers most high end smart phones without a camera for just this type of work. Had to order one when i started working for them myself. As for better ideas, I would ok the epoxy idea with security first as it should be ok but who knows. As for Pfizer being not a security issue, that I would have to disagree with. The Bio-Medical plant in New London is closely watched by the Gov for a reason.
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Maaaaybe. The only thing they have to buy is the BB 9000. They may have somewhere that removes cameras and certifies them or something. I am going to check with security, but as far as I know now, the policy is the same as last year (what I described above). You make me want to be scared of Pfizer haha.
The epoxy is the best I can think of. Any better ideas?
I wonder if you could etch the lens with something like hydrofluoric acid from a glass etching kit?
(Disclaimer: I have not tried this and hydrofluoric acid is nasty, nasty ****.)
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Maaaaybe. The only thing they have to buy is the BB 9000. They may have somewhere that removes cameras and certifies them or something. I am going to check with security, but as far as I know now, the policy is the same as last year (what I described above). You make me want to be scared of Pfizer haha.
The epoxy is the best I can think of. Any better ideas?
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That may be the best one they have at the moment. I know ATT and HTC work closely together on it as most of the camera less models were all HTC. Had a tilt 2 without a camera lol. your epoxy might be your best shot.
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I was not aware of this. Has google never heard of security? They are really dropping the ball here. Its not about paranoia. Just because something is not a matter of national security, doesn't mean you want photos of unreleased products leaking, etc.
To be constructive, since instructions to take the camera out of the phone have been posted. What about taking it out, spray painting it and reinstalling?
I'm thinking they won't accept that either... There's still audio recording. Also, the phone has the ability to act as a flash drive. Also, the phone can transfer documents over the cell network. Also, the phone can connect and run in promiscuous mode on a wifi network.
If they're truly concerned about security, those are risks. The camera is only one function.
I would find a hard care like the otter box commuter that has the camera hole cut out and its pretty deep. Then id put a piece of paper between the phone and the silicon inside the case. Put the hard case on and fill the whole with a epoxy/bondo. Once it dries just sand it down and respray the hard case with the phone out. No one will know.
Simply autobody lol.
Hello,
I have a small project I was thinking of doing : I have a synology server and I would like to hook to it an IP camera using an old phone.
The trick is, I am not a phone expert, that's why I am here
The idea would be to put the phone in a flower pot and take the camera module from it and make a hole in the flower pot for the camera. And only the camera. I will wire the camera to the phone...
The phone will need a good camera, even in low light considering it will mostly record inside the house.
The phone should have the hability to be rooted.
The phone should be super cheap, otherwise there is no point, right :silly: So I am thinking of second hand phone less than 20 Euros.
Thanks for your help.
There are a lot of decent apps that let you use a phone as an IP security/monitoring camera.
The most common app is IP Webcam https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.pas.webcam&hl=en
Any decent phone will do a good job. But you won't be able to "remove" the camera module from the phone. It's all integrated. you'll have to use the whole phone as one piece.
You MIGHT find you can remove the camera module on a few phones, and extend it with wiring. But I doubt it will retain the same video quality if the wiring is even slightly long.
I would check eBay or Swappa for a cheap used phone.
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There are a lot of decent apps that let you use a phone as an IP security/monitoring camera.
The most common app is IP Webcam https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.pas.webcam&hl=en
Any decent phone will do a good job. But you won't be able to "remove" the camera module from the phone. It's all integrated. you'll have to use the whole phone as one piece.
You MIGHT find you can remove the camera module on a few phones, and extend it with wiring. But I doubt it will retain the same video quality if the wiring is even slightly long.
I would check eBay or Swappa for a cheap used phone.
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Thanks for your advice on the software. I will try it on my actual phone...
However, have you got any recommendation on second hand phones? I have an i9000 but I think the video quality is not good enought. You can find it for 5 dollars on ebay... but still I need a better camera quality. Advice? (I will dig on old reviews on my side)
It seems that the i9100 would do the job.... but I am still looking at the best for low light
Yea, it has a 720p camera. I wouldn't go any lower than that. You'd have to go digging through some reviews, or do some detailed Googling to find which older phones have a camera that's good in low light.