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Has anyone got Google Wallet actually working on their skyrocket? I'm dying to go to Mc.Donald's and swipe my phone! the look on the peoples faces would be so funny. but anyways. Is anyone actually working on it to bring it our phones?
Well one: you need to be on android 2.3.7 or above and two: I believe the skyrocket is lacking major NFC capabilities (much like the i-777) not 100% on the NFC part though.
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This has been answered in the forum many many times. The SkyRocket does not have the "secure eliment" required to run Google Wallet. It might be possible (in the future) to use a "sim card" as a secure eliment if the sim card and the google wallet app allows it. However, this is doubtful because of AT&T's alliance with "ISIS". NFC runs just fine on the skyrocket if you are using a ROM that enables it. Other financial technologies are on the horizon that might actually trump ISIS and Google Wallet but more than likely will also require some sort of SIM security unless they use NFC in conjunction with dialing verification.
trell959 said:
Well one: you need to be on android 2.3.7 or above and two: I believe the skyrocket is lacking major NFC capabilities (much like the i-777) not 100% on the NFC part though.
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Ur both partially right, the phone does require both gingerbread 2.3.7 and "secure element" is actually some hardware that our phones r physically missing, there is however talk of a similar card application. As for NFC, our phones do possess this, as long as ur using the stock battery, the nfc antenna is integrated into it.
Any intrepid soul want to give this a shot? We have the same SOC.
https://plus.google.com/app/plus/mp/532/#~loop:view=activity&aid=z13hc1cqzr2oeddy404chjn45mmuixtoe3g
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I was considering it but I am too scared...
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This would be awesome. I have wallet on my nexus 7 but wish i had it on my HOX
Went ahead and flashed it for the fun of it. Constant fc's of nfc service upon reboot. Oh well.
I didn't expect it to work since it did say it required the touchwiz framework. nandroid ftw
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Went ahead and flashed it for the fun of it. Constant fc's of nfc service upon reboot. Oh well.
I didn't expect it to work since it did say it required the touchwiz framework. nandroid ftw
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Yeag. We all wish. Ugh
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dont flash that guys, ive been playing with the google wallet for a while now with no luck, looks like we need 4.0.4 source before we can continue.
Code:
I/NfcExecutionEnvironmentManagerImpl( 4152): Wakelock released @ 1343759427602 ms.
I/NfcExecutionEnvironmentManagerImpl( 4152): Wakelock acquired @ 1343759427604 ms.
D/NFC-HCI ( 1613): HTC: phLibNfc_SE_GetSecureElementList
E/NFC JNI ( 1613): phLibNfc_SE_GetSecureElementList(): No SMX detected
E/ThermalDaemon( 231): ACTION: HOTPLUG critical failsafe cleared - Sensor 'tsens_tz_sensor2' - temperature 45, mpdecision_active
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Anyone think the new Wallet update will.make it easier to get it working on the One X? Since the card info is now in the cloud, I don't see why phone/carrier should matter anymore.
XsMagical can you work some magic
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Correct me if I'm wrong but I believe the new Google Wallet still uses the secure element portion of the NFC chip which we cannot use because we do not have the proper keys for this device. Without it we cannot write data to the secure element and thus can't process google wallet transactions.
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Correct me if I'm wrong but I believe the new Google Wallet still uses the secure element portion of the NFC chip which we cannot use because we do not have the proper keys for this device. Without it we cannot write data to the secure element and thus can't process google wallet transactions.
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That's my understanding as well. It's not just the ROM; the NFC chip has to be able to set up a secure connection to the receiver.
But AT&T is allowing it on the GNex and the SGSIII, so who knows?
http://www.google.com/wallet/get.html
I soo want Google Wallet to work...
Got an Email from Google Wallet
Been messing around trying to get google wallet to work all day. I've been running into the same problems as everyone else. But, i just got an email from at [email protected]! Its stuck at Initializing your device then it fcs after a while. I'm going to keep trying to get it working.
We need source, if you read my changelog you would know why.
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We need source, if you read my changelog you would know why.
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So, in order to fix the "No SMX Detected" error we need to get NFC libs that have SmartMX enabled and don't break NFC.
I know wallet was working on the international One X in the Modaco forums. Does the One XL share the same NFC hardware as the One X?
I know they have different processors; but, was unsure if the NFC hardware is different too.
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So, in order to fix the "No SMX Detected" error we need to get NFC libs that have SmartMX enabled and don't break NFC.
I know wallet was working on the international One X in the Modaco forums. Does the One XL share the same NFC hardware as the One X?
I know they have different processors; but, was unsure if the NFC hardware is different too.
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Yes and no. I was testing the libs from that phone and the EVO LTE but no dice. Some would break NFC some would just fc.
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Yes and no. I was testing the libs from that phone and the EVO LTE but no dice. Some would break NFC some would just fc.
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Yeah, I tried the libs from the international OneX last night and found that out too.
Maybe we could ask HTC if they could recompile the libs with the header turned on.
I know when i was at the Aria forum we, and other people, petitioned Qualcomm to compile their user space library for ARMv6 after they only released them compiled for ARMv7, and they actually did it was awesome! Gave us the best hardware acceleration I'd seen on that little phone. Props to Qualcomm BTW. But maybe we could see if HTC could do something similar.
NFC Secure Element
Could these patches be applied to the OneXL kernel source to enable the Secure Element and enable card emulation so wallet could work?
http://nemik.net/code/android-nfc/Nfc-app.diff
http://nemik.net/code/android-nfc/libnfc-nxp.diff
It was written for the Nexus S which uses the same nfc chip that the One XL uses, the PN544.
At the very least, maybe it could be modified to work with the HOX.
If we should petition anyone it should be att? aren't they the ones who aren't allowing it to be used on the hox? Yeah it would be sweet if you guys could get it working though.... Wait someone should start a petition especially considering I'm sure it was a way to sell more s3s well now they wanna sell hox+ so maybe they would be willing to listen
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Att is moving forward with Isis instead of Google wallet. I predict you won't see Google wallet on any att devices, officially anyway.
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nooomoto said:
Att is moving forward with Isis instead of Google wallet. I predict you won't see Google wallet on any att devices, officially anyway.
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Unfortunately I agree with you. I hate at&t.
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Any chance s-off could help with these issues?
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http://www.engadget.com/2012/08/28/t-mobile-gs-ii-isis-update/
Isis available on T-mobile galaxy SII
What exactly is it?
AT&T's version of Google Wallet.
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I'd rather have Google wallet, Isis apparently has processing fees when you use it
Another way to make money off of you
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Well in that case, ewww
I keep waiting for isis to die a horrible death.
Looks like it's confirmed: http://www.mastercard-mobilepartner.com/docs/MasterCard_Approved_Mobile_Devices.pdf
The US HTC One X is listed on the second page with Isis support (international version gets Google Wallet).
Dumb question, but does the international version already support Google wallet?
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GuyIncognito721 said:
Dumb question, but does the international version already support Google wallet?
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Yes.
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paulbh said:
Looks like it's confirmed: http://www.mastercard-mobilepartner.com/docs/MasterCard_Approved_Mobile_Devices.pdf
The US HTC One X is listed on the second page with Isis support (international version gets Google Wallet).
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Couldn't care less either way. Storing sensitive financial info on your phone is a dumb idea, particularly on a rooted phone which is about a secure as a laptop connected directly to the Internet with an administrator account enabled and secured with the password 'password'. I am no privacy freak or security nut but taking that kind of risk with your phone particularly in the absence of a legal framework to protect you is nuts. I already have an NFC payment system, it is called a credit card and takes about the same time to pull out of my pocket as my phone. And when it breaks I can get a brand new one for free in 24 hrs.
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Couldn't care less either way. Storing sensitive financial info on your phone is a dumb idea, particularly on a rooted phone which is about a secure as a laptop connected directly to the Internet with an administrator account enabled and secured with the password 'password'. I am no privacy freak or security nut but taking that kind of risk with your phone particularly in the absence of a legal framework to protect you is nuts. I already have an NFC payment system, it is called a credit card and takes about the same time to pull out of my pocket as my phone. And when it breaks I can get a brand new one for free in 24 hrs.
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Putting something as simple as a screen lock on your phone can fix these security issues, a simple app the can remotely wipe your phone can also assure no lost credentials or even track down the phone!
Using a superuser/supersu app with a pin to grant superuser permissions helps too
A lost credit/debit card on the other hand can lead to all kinds of problems until you know its gone and you need to call and report it stolen
By then its possible someone could be buying themselves some new toys
I'd rather carry my ID and my phone around instead of my phone, ID, credit cards, debit cards, and cash
Just my two cents
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Has anyone gotten ISIS working?
My local Verizon store swears that even though jellybean just released today that today they also revoked support for ISIS because of problems.
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egorzilla said:
Has anyone gotten ISIS working?
My local Verizon store swears that even though jellybean just released today that today they also revoked support for ISIS because of problems.
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Google Wallet works better. You should root your phone and try that
Yes I have Google wallet. Wanted to try it ISIS since I live in one of the test areas. Compare the two. Verizon fail all over the place.
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You have to have the special NFC sim cards for ISIS to work.
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Hmmm maybe I will start an Isis thread eventually...... tba
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So I picked up an nfc sim. Still nada. Can't see ISIS in mobile market and through Web says my SGS3 is incompatible. Oh well guess I won't compare and I'll just stick with Google wallet.
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Incase anyone else is interested Verizon fixed the problem overnight. So you can now install ISIS btw you don't need the nfc sim installed to install the app. Not sure about actually using /setting it up. I believe you will need that sim to do anything in the app.
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Incase anyone else is interested Verizon fixed the problem overnight. So you can now install ISIS btw you don't need the nfc sim installed to install the app. Not sure about actually using /setting it up. I believe you will need that sim to do anything in the app.
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I'm In Michigan and I installed the app but it would not let me set it up. So I tweeted to verizonsupport and they sent me a SIM card that is compatible with Isis. I received the SIM card today and setup the account. I also recieved the free ten dollars. So now i have to see if it works at a store.
I encourage everybody to pass on ISIS and the carriers bull****.
Help a n00b out... where can you actually use Isis? I have Google Wallet working on my Nexus 7 and have used it at a few places...much to the astonishment of employees and customers... but even there, very limited support.
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Help a n00b out... where can you actually use Isis? I have Google Wallet working on my Nexus 7 and have used it at a few places...much to the astonishment of employees and customers... but even there, very limited support.
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ISIS supports the same services (paypass, paywave, etc) that wallet supports. So basically you should be able to use it at the same locations.
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jdiamond7 said:
ISIS supports the same services (paypass, paywave, etc) that wallet supports. So basically you should be able to use it at the same locations.
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I just got the OTA from VZW last week and since I saw ISIS in the change list I figured I'd give it a go even though I'm in NY not SLC/Austin.
I called Verizon and they sent me a NFC SIM, and I still had trouble getting it to go but I got it eventually. It was a pain in the neck to set up and add cards but I got it going. On Amex's page about ISIS it says: "Use it where American Express contactless payments are accepted.* Just look for the universal symbol for contactless payments or signs that say "Isis Ready™."
by saying "or" it seems to imply not just in ISIS ready places like SLC/Austin, but anywhere AMEX ExPay is accepted, which is all over the country! I didn't see the same about Chase.
I'll give it a go today in NY and I'll let you know if it worked.
Overall, I must say so far, I like the app better than Google Wallet. It seems like they charge the card direct as opposed to Google which has a system of charging their virtual MC first then charging you, (This could be dis-advantageous regarding benefits that the card would give you, like bonus points at certain category merchants etc.). The only major problem is that it only takes Chase, Amex, and Cap1. but that isn't such a problem for me because I pretty much only use Chase and Amex cards.
I've got it installed, but it will not let me set it up. I live in Pittsburgh, so it may not be a test area. It's strange that it kicks me out of the app though.
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I've got it installed, but it will not let me set it up. I live in Pittsburgh, so it may not be a test area. It's strange that it kicks me out of the app though.
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Do you have a NFC SIM? you'll need one for it to work and Verizon will send you one free.
I live in New York and I haven't had an issue setting it up.
levilib said:
I just got the OTA from VZW last week and since I saw ISIS in the change list I figured I'd give it a go even though I'm in NY not SLC/Austin.
I called Verizon and they sent me a NFC SIM, and I still had trouble getting it to go but I got it eventually. It was a pain in the neck to set up and add cards but I got it going. On Amex's page about ISIS it says: "Use it where American Express contactless payments are accepted.* Just look for the universal symbol for contactless payments or signs that say "Isis Ready™."
by saying "or" it seems to imply not just in ISIS ready places like SLC/Austin, but anywhere AMEX ExPay is accepted, which is all over the country! I didn't see the same about Chase.
I'll give it a go today in NY and I'll let you know if it worked.
Overall, I must say so far, I like the app better than Google Wallet. It seems like they charge the card direct as opposed to Google which has a system of charging their virtual MC first then charging you, (This could be dis-advantageous regarding benefits that the card would give you, like bonus points at certain category merchants etc.). The only major problem is that it only takes Chase, Amex, and Cap1. but that isn't such a problem for me because I pretty much only use Chase and Amex cards.
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Update: I successfully used ISIS to pay at a Brooklyn, NY RiteAid store. I had it set to use a Amex card and I checked straight away and there was a pending charge that appeared normal (unlike Google Wallet transactions which would show up as GOOGNFC*name-of-merchant). When I tried to pay, nothing was happening, so I took off the slim case I have on the back of my phone (GW never had any problems working through this case) and then tried again. Even then nothing happened, I was about to give up and began to pull out my wallet to get a real card, when the terminal came to life and said "Processing Contacless Payment". I'm not sure if it managed to read through my case or if it only read after I removed the case, but if it's the latter, that might be due to the fact that ISIS doesn't utilize the built in NFC chip rather it uses the one embedded into the SIM which is obviously much smaller (the built in one relies on an antenna as big as the battery) and therefore has a much shorter range.
The bottom line is so far I still like it better than GW, my only concern is that it mentioned that if it detects unusual root access in the OS, it will not operate. I don't plan on staying stock unrooted for too much longer!
levilib said:
Update: I successfully used ISIS to pay at a Brooklyn, NY RiteAid store. I had it set to use a Amex card and I checked straight away and there was a pending charge that appeared normal (unlike Google Wallet transactions which would show up as GOOGNFC*name-of-merchant). When I tried to pay, nothing was happening, so I took off the slim case I have on the back of my phone (GW never had any problems working through this case) and then tried again. Even then nothing happened, I was about to give up and began to pull out my wallet to get a real card, when the terminal came to life and said "Processing Contacless Payment". I'm not sure if it managed to read through my case or if it only read after I removed the case, but if it's the latter, that might be due to the fact that ISIS doesn't utilize the built in NFC chip rather it uses the one embedded into the SIM which is obviously much smaller (the built in one relies on an antenna as big as the battery) and therefore has a much shorter range.
The bottom line is so far I still like it better than GW, my only concern is that it mentioned that if it detects unusual root access in the OS, it will not operate. I don't plan on staying stock unrooted for too much longer!
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Update 2: The transaction cleared and now shows a "Isis RITEAID...." just adding the word Isis in front of what would be there anyway.
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I thought I should add, I've successfully used Isis in a lot of places and it works fine even with my case on. The last 4 digits of the credit card number used that appear on the receipt are different from the real number
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I just noticed that Walgreens is not activating any of their nfc payment systems because of security issues and just today I found out that wawa gas stations no longer have them due to some type of issues they were having with malware with their system. Seems more companies are discontinuing their use over setting the systems up.
I hope they get this supposed security problem figured out soon. I love using my phone to pay.
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yankees45us said:
I just noticed that Walgreens is not activating any of their nfc payment systems because of security issues and just today I found out that wawa gas stations no longer have them due to some type of issues they were having with malware with their system. Seems more companies are discontinuing their use over setting the systems up.
I hope they get this supposed security problem figured out soon. I love using my phone to pay.
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This was only ever a pipe dream to be honest. Too many ways it can be hacked, far too insecure for real world use.
Far, far too unsafe for public use. You can hack it with stickers for goodness sake.
Not to mention, people are far too moronic in the way and guard they use their phones to make this work. On an average day at Uni, I see about 200 phones I could nick without them noticing it. And consequentially use to pay for anything, because apparently people are not smart enough to realize that a pattern lock leaves a fingertrail. And their code is pretty much always a date of relevance. Which they've undoubtably mentioned somewhere on their Facebook.
I don't think the reason is security on the phone but on the unit in the store. The phone itself is more secure than using a debit card. If someone steals your card they are able to use it at most stores without ever being asked for id. My phone not only has a passcode but once you try to use the wallet app it asks for another code. Overall I think the security issue is with the store and if that can be resolved nfc payments can continue.
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zelendel said:
This was only ever a pipe dream to be honest. Too many ways it can be hacked, far too insecure for real world use.
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When you say hacked, do you mean the phone or the unit at the store?
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ShadowLea said:
Far, far too unsafe for public use. You can hack it with stickers for goodness sake.
Not to mention, people are far too moronic in the way and guard they use their phones to make this work. On an average day at Uni, I see about 200 phones I could nick without them noticing it. And consequentially use to pay for anything, because apparently people are not smart enough to realize that a pattern lock leaves a fingertrail. And their code is pretty much always a date of relevance. Which they've undoubtably mentioned somewhere on their Facebook.
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I love people who speak with authority about things they clearly know nothing about. "Hack it with stickers"? You're delusional.
Mobile NFC payments are far more secure than any other form of physical payment.
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I love people who speak with authority about things they clearly know nothing about. "Hack it with stickers"? You're delusional.
Mobile NFC payments are far more secure than any other form of physical payment.
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I'd be a little more convinced if your name wasn't "LoveNFC".
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I'd be a little more convinced if your name wasn't "LoveNFC".
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If you could provide details about how a sticker can hack nfc then maybe you could have a point. But as far as all the research I have done nfc payments are more secure than paying with a debit card.
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yankees45us said:
If you could provide details about how a sticker can hack nfc then maybe you could have a point. But as far as all the research I have done nfc payments are more secure than paying with a debit card.
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Because the NFC tag can be set to many things like storing and sending the info used to pay. And it doesnt take much to reprogram the tag, They are about as safe as a debt card which we all know is not 100%
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Because the NFC tag can be set to many things like storing and sending the info used to pay. And it doesnt take much to reprogram the tag, They are about as safe as a debt card which we all know is not 100%
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What tag are you talking about. The phones use an nfc chip and the stores use an nfc system. No one uses a sticker. The stickers your talking about are the ones sold that can let you perform tasks on your phone. What do they have to do with making secure payments from the phone.
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What tag are you talking about. The phones use an nfc chip and the stores use an nfc system. No one uses a sticker. The stickers your talking about are the ones sold that can let you perform tasks on your phone. What do they have to do with making secure payments from the phone.
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Its the Same tech. I installed these in a few stores and saw how easy it would be to allow it to be reprogrammed.
That's why just like if you see a weird looking atm and don't use it you should not use an nfc scanner. Plus you can tell if their is some weird sticker on the nfc scanner. And this proves again that using your phone is not unsecure it's the system that is at the store that can be compromised by idiots. Plus if your Google wallet app doesn't activate after swiping then that should be an indication of something going wrong. Plus those nfc task stickers do not have access to the Google wallet app. So what your saying is flawed and not the reason why stores are removing the units. I think the units are being tampered with by people or the store employees and stores don't want to deal with this. With updated nfc systems this security issue can be resolved. It's just a matter if this makes money for Google. If it doesn't they will just scrap it
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Far, far too unsafe for public use. You can hack it with stickers for goodness sake.
Not to mention, people are far too moronic in the way and guard they use their phones to make this work. On an average day at Uni, I see about 200 phones I could nick without them noticing it. And consequentially use to pay for anything, because apparently people are not smart enough to realize that a pattern lock leaves a fingertrail. And their code is pretty much always a date of relevance. Which they've undoubtably mentioned somewhere on their Facebook.
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Just found out there's a new more secure nfc payment system. Saw it for the first time at toysrus. The swipe area for nfc payments is built in right to the touchscreen where you would enter prompts. This is a lot more secure and a solution to all these so called sticker problems. No one can put a sticker on the screen as it will block everyone from using it. Hopefully nfc payments get back on track. Just used mine at cvs and McDonald's
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