just wondering when its gonna be out, I've been hearing tones of different things that there are betas and leaked versions then i hear that its not out yet and won't be for a while and a bunch of stuff
just trying to get my mind set straight
It'll come out when it comes out. They're pushing for a Q1 release, but, nearing the end, there hasn't been much chatter about it. There are leaked builds already for it, but they don't have key functionality that's needed on a phone, such as the, uh, phone feature not working (I believe). In addition, there have been leaked screenshots as well that show that the ICS build for Skyrocket uses a modified version of Touchwiz.
Until then, if you're looking for something more...blue...the SkyIceCreamSandwich mod is a pretty good bet.
If not, well, we're all playing the waiting game.
Well it looks like maybe march or April, but then not confirmed. it's almost February and still no phones in the US have official ICS besides the Galaxy Nexus. The carrier is mainly in charge for releasing updates. I'd rather they release a non buggy, smooth as butter ICS update instead of rushing and releasing a buggy crappy dog puke software. Be patient.
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You have a good point I guess ill just wait and see what happens
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Actually the Nexus S does.
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Hey, Go to general, Its happening right NOW!!!!
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So apparently HTC has updated their list of devices receiving ICS... 2 of which being the Thunderbolt and Incredible 2. Clearly HTC and Samsung are seperate companies, but seeing how both these devices were released well before the DC maybe Samsung will give us some official ICS love.
Thoughts?
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It's a thought, maybe I can come back to bed and dream some more on ICS for the Charge! hehe.
They haven't released RIL wouldn't hold my breath.
Would be nice of them but I don't see that happening for months. If at all. Sammy isn't that great for pushing updates IMO from past phones..
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Points in favor of the Charge getting ICS:
It was a flagship phone, dropping support would tarnish Samsung's reputation
Contemporary phones seem to be getting ICS
The Charge has just been released for US Cellular as the Galaxy S Aviator, and 18 months of updates means it pretty much has to get ICS...
Points against the Charge getting ICS:
The Galaxy S isn't getting ICS, because Samsung says it doesn't have enough memory... and has the same amount of memory as the Charge.
Honestly, I have no idea what to expect at this point...
For now I would treat ICS on Droid Charge as....a miracle! rare to happen...but possible.
We'll have a better shot of a dev porting it before Samsung.
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Samsung, updating Droid Charge would be like putting it on the Fascinate...same phone Charge just has LTE
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Samsung has said that the original galaxy s phones aren't getting ics because they don't have enough ram after samsung puts tw on it. I will assume the galaxy s 1.5 phones aren't getting it either because they have just as much ram.
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It's been.pretty much said by Samsung that the Galaxy S line(including variations) won't get ICS since they want to include TW with it. That would, I assume, require more memory. Our only hope would be 100% stock ICS ported over.
But damn, if the Nexus S had LTE, that probably would have helped a bit.
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Yea my thing is .... Samsung would look hella bad if they didn't and HTC did update phones released prior to DC .Aside from that Sense is a lot more of a memory hog than tw... the thunderbolt ONLY has 25% more ram.. then again it has 25 % more ram so who knows
RE- ril; the fact that Samsung doesn't seem to want to release the code doesn't mean they wont release ICS... ril doesn't need to be public for them to release an official build... or am I mistaken?
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You are not. The RIL is just a necessity for a community build of it, which would likely come out much sooner than an official one if we could get ahold of it
The problem isn't the amount of RAM, it is the amount of space allocated for /system on the device. If they would include TouchWiz, it likely would not have enough space left for everything. However, the fact that I have heard there are internal builds of ICS for the Charge is promising. Also, the fact that the Thunderbolt is getting ICS helps our case as well.
Being that the charge and epic are so similar besides the keyboard, you guys should get with our devs and see if you can port over our cm9.
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Being that the charge and epic are so similar besides the keyboard, you guys should get with our devs and see if you can port over our cm9.
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We have cm9 besides the radio
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Do you have link to it?
I have two friends with a charge. I rooted a flashed eclipse on one of them. Just haven't seen anything cm, or miui related in your forums. Just curious why no support in those areas. Unless its on other sites and I missed it. Would love to give them some ics cm9 if its functional enough to use as a daily.
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The charge seems like a really nice device. I'm surprised there isn't a ton of development for it. My friend was about to get rid of his till I had him root and eclipse it. Hope it picks up around here for everyone. Thought my epic was done for a while too, then all of a sudden, all kinds of goodies started popping up.
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Do you have link to it?
I have two friends with a charge. I rooted a flashed eclipse on one of them. Just haven't seen anything cm, or miui related in your forums. Just curious why no support in those areas. Unless its on other sites and I missed it. Would love to give them some ics cm9 if its functional enough to use as a daily.
Check the android development forum
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There isn't a daily driver ICS build. Wifi only build is out so far. RIL is what's holding us back. :/
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Do you have link to it?
I have two friends with a charge. I rooted a flashed eclipse on one of them. Just haven't seen anything cm, or miui related in your forums. Just curious why no support in those areas. Unless its on other sites and I missed it. Would love to give them some ics cm9 if its functional enough to use as a daily.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1434387
This is a PORT for the DC, as mentioned its only network connectivity is via wifi.
And for a good laugh read the entire thread.. but please dont add anymore garnage comments ... its just a good topic that got WAY out of hand
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Found this on HTC's side, it's being reported on Droid-life, as well:
http://www.htc.com/www/help/android4faq/?cid=android4blog
They are claiming July-August for ICS. I'll believe it when I see it.
They did say earlier this year it would be near the end of q3 when they pushed the ota out. I would say if they are honestly trying to get the update out then it will be at the end of august or later. They almost always delay by 2 months usually.
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I know there is no actual for this, but, is there an about time frame for leaks before they release official? I guess I mean, is it feasible to say that there may be a leak by the end of June? I know, purely speculation. But fun to guess.
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There is no way to know that because if we get a leak then we get a leak. The only way we can get a leak is if someone puts it out there for us.
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Awesome, only four months before I get a new phone lol....better late than never I suppose.....praying for leaks with working ril that's all the devs need!
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That's what I'm waiting for, the leaks to start rolling out. All it takes is one good one!
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I've accepted it will never be here. Same with my SGT10.1
It will be here, but stock 4.0 aosp just aint that great imo. With sense, maybe
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I played around with sense 3.6 and ics on a tmobile phone (sensation maybe?? Lol I dont remember -_-) and it wasn't much different than sense 3.5 with a couple additions. Althoigh I do like how the folders open ))
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It will be here, but stock 4.0 aosp just aint that great imo. With sense, maybe
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Man, I disagree wholeheartedly. Stock ICS blows any of our roms out of the water...in power management and usability. Add in the features in, say, AOKP and wrap it up in Apex Launcher and it's pretty much the best mobile experience I can imagine.
If only that Nexus I had for a month got better reception...loved the software.
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Man, I disagree wholeheartedly. Stock ICS blows any of our roms out of the water...in power management and usability. Add in the features in, say, AOKP and wrap it up in Apex Launcher and it's pretty much the best mobile experience I can imagine.
If only that Nexus I had for a month got better reception...loved the software.
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How do you get that with no ril? Been runnin it on wifes dinc for 5 months, it all works, pretty smooth, but not fantastic
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You knew this question was going to come. Now that 4.1 has been announced, when are we getting ours?
This will take a longer time for sure, as HTC is still busy to release ICS
Jellybean dev kits are supposed to be released mid july. At least that's what this source says: http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2012/06/27/google-announces-android-41-jelly-bean/
But it may be a while before we get a working ROM.
Given the time it took the CM team to release CM9 RC1, I'd say 6 months!
what about this? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1736699
Brace yourself for a long wait
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While ICS is quite nice, it is hard not to want the latest, greatest thing on our devices Still, at least the Nexus 7 is available to fulfil the JB goodness until it's available. That may end up replacing my Nook Color which hasn't been used in a month since it's ac adapter gave up the ghost.
HTC says they "don't yet have an announcement" for Jelly Bean on existing devices.
... I can't post a link because <10 posts, but there is an article on pocket-lint.com
That will only lead to an anemic SDK ROM. sure it will show us the cool new features, but I wouldn't expect much. I wonder how long it takes to hit AOSP
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what about this? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1736699
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Q1 or Q2 next year would be my guess
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Since i'm assuming jellybean isn't as big of a change internally as ICS was from gingerbread it'll be a shorter wait. Still I wouldn't expect anything shorter than like Oct of this year.
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Q1 or Q2 next year would be my guess
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I heard GSM Nexus devices are already receiving leaked OTA of 4.1 today.
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Since i'm assuming jellybean isn't as big of a change internally as ICS was from gingerbread it'll be a shorter wait. Still I wouldn't expect anything shorter than like Oct of this year.
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Actually most of the changes are internal. I think project butter is a big internal change. Although the One S is already very smooth, squeezing more performance out of the S4 is a welcomed thing
How about this?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1737340
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How about this?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1737340
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Pretty interesting read. Looking at the pictures it doesn't look much different. I wonder what changes it will bring along.
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Check engadget, the new additions are all pretty cool. I def wouldn't mind having an even smoother os
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jellybean just got sent ota for gsm galaxy nexus !
Google doesn't care
I remember reading recently that Google knows about fragmentation but isn't worried about it. Now that I'm tempted to buy a media device to have the latest and greatest software, I can see how fragmentation can actually work for Google because now more and more people will look to buy nexus devices.
the main reason i got a HTC phone is because unlike Samsung's strange choice in hardware it dosnt take 5 months to port a fast stable release from the MOD team unlike HTC
lets hope this takes off !
the one X got already a port
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1737736
Is it me or does the Thunderbolt feel completely abandoned by developers?
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Yep no jellybean for us yet. JB makes ics seem as slow as am ibm pcjr. We should demand HTC give us JB instead of ics
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Developers need an ICS leak to make anything new, how many GB ROMs do you want? As far as the CM9 RIL has proved to be a huge problem. So no, developers still have Thunderbolts they just need something new to work with, instead of pointing fingers at them, point them at HTC.
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While it's not the fault of the dev's, we have been forgotten. The thunderbolt is unfortunately old news and most likely won't have much more activity until we get ICS/JB.
Its more like HTC doesn't give a crap about our phones anymore. It's unacceptable that they haven't put out an update sooner.
I'm still here!
Most phones were forgotten (or stagnated) on Verizon when the Nexus came out. Anyone who didn't see that coming was just a tad short-sided.
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Most phones were forgotten (or stagnated) on Verizon when the Nexus came out. Anyone who didn't see that coming was just a tad short-sided.
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Sounds more like people just using us and then throwing us away when the next hot thing comes out...
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Let me tell you the gnex didn't do much for me. Should have never gotten rid of my thunderbolt.
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Let me tell you the gnex didn't do much for me. Should have never gotten rid of my thunderbolt.
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The reason why I'll only buy nexus phones now
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The Thunderbolt is dead; it has been for awhile. I can't wait for my GS3! Verizon needs to ship those babies soon!
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It's not dead for me yet. Still waiting for the end of July / August for HTC to actually produce something. There's been beta testing supposedly but no leak.
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Dont blame only HTC. Verizon is also to blame... and VZW is historically known for not providing too many updates.
I dont expect any additional development until ICS is "officially" released for the TBolt.
I dont believe we'll ever see an official release of JB for our phones.
im building a rom off of cm7 now . RomZombie.
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Dont blame only HTC. Verizon is also to blame... and VZW is historically known for not providing too many updates.
I dont expect any additional development until ICS is "officially" released for the TBolt.
I dont believe we'll ever see an official release of JB for our phones.
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Kinda gotta blame HTC tho, cuz a leak is just as good to me as Verizon's "official" release. Its the ril that is necessary, u get that n the rest is history -_-
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is the thunderbolt even supposed to get official ics?
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is the thunderbolt even supposed to get official ics?
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Yea supposedly this month or next.
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Bionic already has 4 ICS leaks...and blame HTC. Anyway, the Incredible S (GSM Dinc 2) got ICS today. Here's the thing - the Thunderbolt was replaced by the Rezound a long time ago, and it's honestly not that great of a phone anyway. It was the first LTE phone, but the specs were far behind other phones that came out before it. It will be nice when it finally does get ICS (and it will, but remember the 2.3.4 update took a very long time as well), but most people (like me) who bought this phone will have already moved on, or be well on their way to a better phone by the time it finally is released. As far as being forgotten by developers - not forgotten, but they have moved on to better phones. The Thunderbolt is old hat - 1Ghz Snapdragon w/ 768MB RAM, the developers have moved on to better things, for the most part.
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Developers need an ICS leak to make anything new, how many GB ROMs do you want? As far as the CM9 RIL has proved to be a huge problem. So no, developers still have Thunderbolts they just need something new to work with, instead of pointing fingers at them, point them at HTC.
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That and point really at Google for.this messed up veal they allow which is so stupid. We need to stop overlays on android and have the same user experence as any other device a unified way. On touch six.you select wick widget it brings up any available wick if one is not already selected on sense and stock that does not happen. Not a great user way here.
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Pretty sure specs weren't far behind anything when the tbolt came out. If you're this concerned sell it and buy a bionic. Go to craigslist, they are cheap.
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I saw this on the galaxy tab 7.7 forum that ICS is being released for the tab.
phandroid.com/2012/10/05/verizon-announces-ice-cream-sandwich-update-for-samsung-galaxy-tab-7-7/
Isn't this supposed to give us a possible chance at ICS since they share similar hardware??
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Its time to abandon hope and upgrade to these new awesome NEXUS devices coming up in late 2012 early 2013! I'm excited for them!
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The Charge really is way underpowered. All the later phones are much more powerful. They're not going to ever put any effort into this wimpy phone. FP5 was just the fix for the embarrassing crap software they were running on it before. Just run Tweaked 3.0 and keep it til you can get something better.
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The Charge really is way underpowered. All the later phones are much more powerful. They're not going to ever put any effort into this wimpy phone. FP5 was just the fix for the embarrassing crap software they were running on it before. Just run Tweaked 3.0 and keep it til you can get something better.
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This.
The Charge has always been a good phone, the problem is they gave the phones before and after it better hardware/software. Even the Thunderbolt which was released before the Charge is supposed to get some ICS love(official) and has ROMs for ICS. The Charge has always been over looked and under appreciated. If it had been given proper hardware and a lil lovin' it would be right below the Nexus. At this point it is ridiculous that Samsung won't just give up the RIL so that some more can be done to try and bring the Charge back from the dead. All I gotta say is thank god Dwitherell stuck it out and made the Charge more of what it should have been.
I have a question, if this is a slightly refreshed Nexus S, and the Nexus S can run both ICS and JB, then why can't this phone? From a hardware perspective, I know Samsung obviously doesn't want to spend the time and money to create ICS for their bastard child phone.
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I have a question, if this is a slightly refreshed Nexus S, and the Nexus S can run both ICS and JB, then why can't this phone? From a hardware perspective, I know Samsung obviously doesn't want to spend the time and money to create ICS for their bastard child phone.
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It's not about phone capabilities, really. It's about 2 things. First, this is a limited user base device. Second, this is a skinned device, and there's not enough room in the system partition for the skinned version of ICS or JB to run.
AOSP ICS and JB do run, and from what little I messed with CM9 on the Charge, it ran quite nicely. There's no mobile data with it though, because the RIL has proven to be tough to crack, but as far as hardware capabilities, it can run stock...just not the TouchWiz skinned versions.
My DC is wifi only and I would love to play with ics or jb on here.
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My DC is wifi only and I would love to play with ics or jb on here.
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http://rootzwiki.com/topic/19688-romkangicsiml74k-cm9-ics-port-for-droid-charge-build20324/