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Nvidia 4.0 ICS release for Ventana Tegra 2?

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"Android 4.0 (ICS) OS Images for Tegra Android Available
by Stephen Jones, posted Jan 20 2012 at 03:34PM
Just like you, we’ve been anxiously awaiting the public release of Android 4.0 (Ice Cream Sandwich) for NVIDIA® Tegra® Developer Kits. Following the unprecedented speed of the ICS port for the Transformer Prime, NVIDIA is pleased to announce the first public release of Ice Cream Sandwich OS Images for NVIDIA Tegra DevKits.
The installers for the OS Images for Ventana DevKits are available on the Tegra Resources page. For information regarding Cardhu OS Images, please contact your account representative.
For the first time ever, the OS Images are available on OSX as well as Windows and Linux. The release package consists of binary code, drivers developed on our reference platforms and any patches necessary to ensure stability & performance with ICS and our developer tools. Visit the Tegra Resources page for the latest developer tools that support ICS, such as PerfHUD ES.
We welcome your feedback and questions on the Tegra forums.
TEGRA ANDROID OS IMAGES
These OS Images are pre-configured to provide the optimal development experience on Tegra DevKits.
FEATURES
Android 4.0 (Ice Cream Sandwich) Full support for PerfHUD ES 1.9.5, the Open GL ES frame debugging and analysis tool for Tegra. Full support for PERF and OProfile, CPU profiling tools. The default value for screen timeout is set to 30 minutes. Internet permissions for all applications are enabled by default. Native to Java calls have had JNI checks disabled to mimic production units. EMEI ID support"
Source http://developer.nvidia.com/content/android-40-ics-os-images-tegra-android-available
Is this the ICS port that was promise by Nvidia back in November-December? Binary code drivers? Linux 3.1.1 kernel? (http://developer.nvidia.com/linux-tegra) What is all this?
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F*ck nvrm. Mods please delete useless thread -_-
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*sigh*
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Yes I would like to know what this is too!
Is this the drivers we are waiting for..and probably never going to get?
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for Korny if he is still wondering, I'm almost positive this is for a different tegra chip and doesn't apply to our phone in any form. No the Devs can not (for what I know and have read) just take out the necessities and use them for our phone. This is very old news and does nothing for our phones sadly!

mt3g said:
for Korny if he is still wondering, I'm almost positive this is for a different tegra chip and doesn't apply to our phone in any form. No the Devs can not (for what I know and have read) just take out the necessities and use them for our phone. This is very old news and does nothing for our phones sadly!
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Guess I just got excited,
Didn't mean to beat a dead horse.
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No worries it was a public statement
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Had my hopes up D:
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[Q] Tegra release 15 harmony

I did some searching on this and maybe I am failing here but this has the driver package for harmony. It is beta and they have deprecated harmony but isn't this what is needed in order to support hardware acceleration with ICS?
developer.nvidia.com/linux-tegra

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=21729380
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So this is actually legit???

I hope so.
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Lets see what our talented Devs can do!
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Hmmmm... I'm skeptical by nature, but maybe something will come of this.

Supported Features
Kernel version 3.1.10
Media APIs:
OpenGL ES 2.0
OpenGL ES 1.1
Open GL ES path extensions
EGL 1.4 with EGLImage
X Resize, Rotate and Reflect Extension (RandR) 1.3
X11 ABI 5, 6, 7, 8, 10, 11 support
Looks promising.
Seems like i won't trash this phone for the Galaxy Nexus.

New Features
This release fixes some issues that were found during continued testing and adds/enhances the following features:
Preliminary U Boot support. For more information, see U-Boot support is preliminary in this release in the Implementation Notes section. The multimedia streaming and capture applications nvgstplayer and nvgstcapture are included in the release file instead of being provided as a separate downloadable package. The Tegra X Driver ABI 12 is supported.
Also note that this is only a beta release and is for testing purposes only.

I believe that's for the tegra not tegra2

masteroftime666 said:
I believe that's for the tegra not tegra2
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I believe you are incorrect with that statement, if you check out the site it says tegra 2. Please do correct how I am wrong if so, I am new to this
Linux For Tegra
Overview
NVIDIA is pleased to announce that Linux for Tegra release 15 Beta is now available. The NVIDIA Tegra Linux Driver Package supports development of platforms running:
NVIDIA Tegra 3 series computer-on-a-chip (Cardhu)
NVIDIA Tegra 2 series computer-on-a-chip (Harmony* and Ventana)
3.1.10 Linux kernel
* Additionally, developers should note that support for Harmony devices are deprecated. We provide the harmony build for reference only and it is provided as-is. Support for Harmony will transition to community-supported Linux kernels, and Ventana will be the Tegra 2 reference platform.

masteroftime666 said:
I believe that's for the tegra not tegra2
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Quoted from Nvidia's website:
NVIDIA is pleased to announce that Linux for Tegra release 15 Beta is now available. The NVIDIA Tegra Linux Driver Package supports development of platforms running:
NVIDIA Tegra 3 series computer-on-a-chip (Cardhu)
NVIDIA Tegra 2 series computer-on-a-chip (Harmony* and Ventana)
3.1.10 Linux kernel
* Additionally, developers should note that support for Harmony devices are deprecated. We provide the harmony build for reference only and it is provided as-is. Support for Harmony will transition to community-supported Linux kernels, and Ventana will be the Tegra 2 reference platform.

Nice try nvidia I'm still not buying your phones evar again
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Here is my understanding:
This contains compiled binaries for a reference board.
There are two ways to get ICS support for the G2x:
1. Uncompiled reference source code is needed so it can be modified for use with the G2x.
2. Compiled binaries for the G2x must be provided.
#2 cannot come from nvidia for various reasons but rather must come from an OEM (LG).

aaCotyaa said:
Quoted from Nvidia's website:
NVIDIA is pleased to announce that Linux for Tegra release 15 Beta is now available. The NVIDIA Tegra Linux Driver Package supports development of platforms running:
NVIDIA Tegra 3 series computer-on-a-chip (Cardhu)
NVIDIA Tegra 2 series computer-on-a-chip (Harmony* and Ventana)
3.1.10 Linux kernel
* Additionally, developers should note that support for Harmony devices are deprecated. We provide the harmony build for reference only and it is provided as-is. Support for Harmony will transition to community-supported Linux kernels, and Ventana will be the Tegra 2 reference platform.
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My mistake good man should have payed attention to detail

Hm. I just noticed it is says Linux, and not Android...
I wonder if that will work.. Maybe some of our awesome dev can rip the right part to get everything working .

android is
linux right?

I'm so confused! Is this what the devs were looking for?

Android is Linux based. Tegra is for mobile processors. I'm not sure but I don't think we can expect all the necessary components in this package.
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Are there any devs left that can compile this and just try plugging it in?

Maybe its just me, but I think if this is what was needed, well CM would be on it and someone would have at least attempted something by now.
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tegra 2 harmony video excelerated kernel

I was just wondering, the viewsonic gtablet is a tegra 2 harmony device and the guys at team drh have made a kernel for ics that is fully hardware excelerated so my question is since the g2x is a harmony device can the drh kernel be used as a base for a working g2x kernel with full video decoding just like the gtablet???

Harmony is for tablets. We have Ventana.
Closest best is the ZTE Mimosa X which has ICS and the Ventana. When it drops hopefully we can grab the drivers from there.

From the 2x side:
msedek said:
If porting full working drivers were possible in any way from any device to make o2x runs with everything working on ics it should be done by now.. Al the things you are thinking now developers though about it long time ago... I'm developer myself.. Just not android developer.. I develop in assembler for microcontrollers as I am electronics engineer, and trust me there's nothing that I don't know about the chips I work on...
Every microcontroler (I'm specialist in microchip) has different libraries to access the different modules... As microchip produce open source libraries I can access all the functionalities in the processor and microchip provide the full pdf with the instructions set for every processor.. But even chips from the same family with a minimum variation like let's say pic18f478 to pic18f478a can have bunch of different modules with a bunch of different libraries...
So once I can develop a function out of the instructions set (what's called here from scratch) I can then develop a library wich I can call in my main software every time I want the processor execute an action... So in this case Nvidia won't provide their instructions set for their processors... They only provide libraries to oems... And oems can develop procedures and functions with these libraries...
That said Nvidia has no responsibilities here... Because no matter what os oems use the chips and the libraries are the same and the method to access chipset function won't change from one os to another... That's processor architecture and can not be modified..
LG has to re develop the function and procedures to work with the new os that is low level (assembler compiled) and embedded into the os... Those functions are way different from one device to another and it's not possible to use them unless it's the same exact chip family with no variants...
Devs here can not develop functions because they don't have access to the libraries... They only have access to the final product or what I could call the UI for developer.. And that's the DRIVERS..
That's it..
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redmonke255 said:
Harmony is for tablets. We have Ventana.
Closest best is the ZTE Mimosa X which has ICS and the Ventana. When it drops hopefully we can grab the drivers from there.
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You mean this???
tonyp said:
Here is a high-speed mirror of the ROM: http://d-h.st/DDn
RC hasn't replied to me, yet.
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redmonke255 said:
Harmony is for tablets. We have Ventana.
Closest best is the ZTE Mimosa X which has ICS and the Ventana. When it drops hopefully we can grab the drivers from there.
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Are you sure about that everything i read said g2x was a harmony board and its not as simple as one is phone one is tablet the Motorola xoom is a ventana board i do believe its more to do with components like memory and amount of memory sound chips and how they are implemented together

Everything you've read is wrong then.
http://www.en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tegra#section_2
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redmonke255 said:
Everything you've read is wrong then.
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So why are the xoom and transformer tf101 referred to as ventana devices on this site in their own forums???

Big_Doodie said:
So why are the xoom and transformer tf101 referred to as ventana devices on this site in their own forums???
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Because the people saying it are misinformed. Ventana is the phone version, harmony is the tablet version.
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Is this of any use?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=29622231&postcount=378

lehjr said:
Is this of any use?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=29622231&postcount=378
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+1
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Can this really be it? Somebody confirm so I can save some $ for donations!

Please be useful... I'm praying right now.

Fingers crossed
Wouldn't that be wonderful!

gpmartinson said:
Wouldn't that be wonderful!
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It might make me keep my G2x a lil' bit longer

Recently released Tegra 2 drivers are for Linux (Ubuntu), and they're binary so they're virtually impossible to hack for Android without superhuman effort and skills and unlimited time.
Read from XDA post:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=26960631&postcount=1
and read the information at the Wikipedia site about Open Source and NVIDIA:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Graphics_hardware_and_FOSS
and read the statement from NVIDIA
http://www.androidpolice.com/2011/0...ra-devices-as-long-as-their-manufacturers-do/
and read this statement by Ricardo Cerqueira:
https://plus.google.com/11504942893...jeUiS#115049428938715274412/posts/KycR8ZjeUiS
and read the Tegra Linux Driver Package release notes:
http://developer.download.nvidia.co...ux_Driver_Package_Release_Notes_R15_armhf.pdf

Core Memory said:
Recently released Tegra 2 drivers are for Linux (Ubuntu), and they're binary so they're virtually impossible to hack for Android without superhuman effort and skills and unlimited time.
Read from XDA post:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=26960631&postcount=1
and read the information at the Wikipedia site about Open Source and NVIDIA:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Graphics_hardware_and_FOSS
and read the statement from NVIDIA
http://www.androidpolice.com/2011/0...ra-devices-as-long-as-their-manufacturers-do/
and read this statement by Ricardo Cerqueira:
https://plus.google.com/11504942893...jeUiS#115049428938715274412/posts/KycR8ZjeUiS
and read the Tegra Linux Driver Package release notes:
http://developer.download.nvidia.co...ux_Driver_Package_Release_Notes_R15_armhf.pdf
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Boooooo, I'm sad... again

Naive but
Not sure I get the problem...isn't android really a linux clone with less stuff? Wish I knew more about how this works.

ICS Drivers from... SONY?

Just a thought seeing as how us G2X and O2X folks are waiting patiently for ICS drivers to arrive if ever from LG. Article hitting a few Android sites has Sony releasing a PMP w/ a Tegra 2. Now there is no mention if this Tegra 2 is the same as our devices but hey here's hoping. Thoughts?
http://phandroid.com/2012/07/18/sony-introduces-walkman-f800-with-android-4-0-launching-in-august/

I read somewhere that this will be the Ventana (same as the G2x) and not the Harmony chip. This makes sense, since the Harmony chip is used almost exclusively in tablets. I can't find the article, so I don't know if this was speculation by the blogger or something official.

RobBull69 said:
I read somewhere that this will be the Ventana (same as the G2x) and not the Harmony chip. This makes sense, since the Harmony chip is used almost exclusively in tablets. I can't find the article, so I don't know if this was speculation by the blogger or something official.
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very unlikely to be ventana as that is a development board that lost support from nvidia a while back. thats why you havent seen many, if any at all, ventana based device released since harmony became available. think of ventana as the beta version and harmony as production release. there are no distinction of which version to use for tablet vs phone

atb1183 said:
very unlikely to be ventana as that is a development board that lost support from nvidia a while back. thats why you havent seen many, if any at all, ventana based device released since harmony became available. think of ventana as the beta version and harmony as production release. there are no distinction of which version to use for tablet vs phone
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I don't get it, what exactly is the difference between the two? Is Harmony faster or use less power or something? Because doesn't it have all the same clock speeds, cache, RAM, etc...??

The problem will probably be in the fact that we don't have the driver source. If the driver is compiled for ICS it may work but I'm pretty sure we'll still need the driver source code or a driver compiled specifically for the G2x/O2x. Here's to hoping though.

userno69 said:
I don't get it, what exactly is the difference between the two? Is Harmony faster or use less power or something? Because doesn't it have all the same clock speeds, cache, RAM, etc...??
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As far as I know, the ONLY difference is the GPU. Ventana is clocked at 300Mhz for the GPU and Harmony at 333Mhz.

Never will these drivers be released for this device. Those numb nuts at NVIDIA are waiting for this device to die.

http://www.androidcentral.com/zte-grand-x-hands
This is the closet you're going to get to the G2X/O2X interms of GPU wise.

I hope the devs can cook something up. There are a few devices that are coming out with Tegra 2 and Ics. Keeps fingers crossed . If not then on to HTC and lg never again
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NVIDIA Tegra 2 and ICS

This weekend, my mother in law purchased a used Acer Iconia A100 from her son. She asked me to give her a crash course on it.
So I'm looking, at it, not bad. I'm like this thing has ICS 4.0.3... Cool... I decided to look at the specs... Yep, it has the Tegra 2... I'm telling myself there is no way this thing works in the video camera... Well, shockingly it works perfectly!
So why in hell does the Acer Iconia A100 vid cam works with ICS and not our phones? I verified the Acer site and they only have Honeycomb in terms of OS. So I guess my bro in law updated it himself but what I'm really pissed off at is why the video camera works like a charm on his...
WTF?

No!
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What I'm guessing is ics isn't that much of a big leap from honeycomb, or he just changed the build.prop to 4.0.3 to make him feel good about himself.
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That table got an official ICS update last April:
http://www.androidpolice.com/2012/0...rly-to-some-lucky-users-download-link-inside/
Which puts LG to shame regarding its lack of ICS updates for existing devices.

OK must of been Acer Canada that's behind in their updates!
But with that said... That means the basic drivers and code are probably available for the Tegra 2 for ICS if Acer was able to get it running... Sorry, far from being any type of programmer but do we really LG to do anything here or can any Dev pic off some code from the ROM on the Acer and work some magic.

NVIDIA just supplies the chip, the Tegra 2. It's up to the phone manufacturer to design the phone with a chipset and software. Every phone manufacturer is different so they must write different drivers.
The phone manufacturer is responsible for the drivers. It's not NVIDIA, it's up to LG and Acer to provide drivers for their chipset. Understand?

Bigs73 said:
OK must of been Acer Canada that's behind in their updates!
But with that said... That means the basic drivers and code are probably available for the Tegra 2 for ICS if Acer was able to get it running... Sorry, far from being any type of programmer but do we really LG to do anything here or can any Dev pic off some code from the ROM on the Acer and work some magic.
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NVIDIA provides full-featured drivers for their SOC which the original equipment manufacturers (OEM) apply to their devices. The OEM enables/disables various driver features and tests their operation. If bugs/problems are revealed with the drivers, the OEM consults with NVIDIA which may cause NVIDIA to generate another driver. It is an iterative process. Even the latest NVIDIA driver for ICS for the Tegra2 AP20H has known bugs. I think the NVIDIA driver problems is what's partly to blame for the delayed release of ICS for phones with that SOC.

Just a reminder that people are forgetting that the Tegra 2 in our phones is a completely different chip than a Tegra 2 elsewhere. Numerous phones have ICS with a Tegra 2 chip working fine, but those are not ones that use the same chip as ours.

Thanks for that clarification guys! Makes more sense now! :good:
Well sucks for LG then because this doesn't really encourage me to purchase another LG device in the future.