All over the forum, people are going nuts about battery stats, calibration "techniques", apps, scripts etc... to "improve" your battery life. What the hell is up with all this battery calibration mumbo-jumbo?
I don't know who started this, but this calibration, battery stats wipe thing is just plain annoying now. It is a useless, superstitious, ritualistic and nonsensical practice... just as useless as the Task Killer apps and scripts floating around.
I know y'all will boo me for flipping a finger at this sacred ritual that everyone on android seems to be following, so allow me to let Google Engineer Diane Hackborn convince you... (unless of course you believe that you understand how Android works even better than the guys that designed it...)
OPEN YOUR EYES (and mind) and READ THIS
Please understand that i am only posting this because all this battery stats wiping and calibration etc is just a pagan ritual and doesn't really help. We're just being herded along like sheep, just as was the case with task managers (still is) aome time ago. Break this vicious cycle...
Enough ranting. It's your phone, do what you want with it. It's not like I'm Steve Jobs (may God have mercy on his soul) or Bill Gates to dictate how you use your phone...
Myth debunked! I suspected as much. I usually forget the battery stats thing and never noticed any different battery life. Just some odd representation of dialer usage in battery stats. Thanks for the find.
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enigmaamit said:
All over the forum, people are going nuts about battery stats, calibration "techniques", apps, scripts etc... to "improve" your battery life. What the hell is up with all this battery calibration mumbo-jumbo?
I don't know who started this, but this calibration, battery stats wipe thing is just plain annoying now. It is a useless, superstitious, ritualistic and nonsensical practice... just as useless as the Task Killer apps and scripts floating around.
I know y'all will boo me for flipping a finger at this sacred ritual that everyone on android seems to be following, so allow me to let Google Engineer Diane Hackborn convince you... (unless of course you believe that you understand how Android works even better than the guys that designed it...)
OPEN YOUR EYES (and mind) and READ THIS
Please understand that i am only posting this because all this battery stats wiping and calibration etc is just a pagan ritual and doesn't really help. We're just being herded along like sheep, just as was the case with task managers (still is) aome time ago. Break this vicious cycle...
Enough ranting. It's your phone, do what you want with it. It's not like I'm Steve Jobs (may God have mercy on his soul) or Bill Gates to dictate how you use your phone...
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Read this already. And never whiped the stats before
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That's good to hear. Never calibrated because I'm too lazy. The whole thought of charging to 100% then letting it discharge and then charging it backup to 100% was just boring! Plus I hate letting my phone die. Thanks for the info enigmaamit!
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enigmaamit said:
All over the forum, people are going nuts about battery stats, calibration "techniques", apps, scripts etc... to "improve" your battery life. What the hell is up with all this battery calibration mumbo-jumbo?
I don't know who started this, but this calibration, battery stats wipe thing is just plain annoying now. It is a useless, superstitious, ritualistic and nonsensical practice... just as useless as the Task Killer apps and scripts floating around.
I know y'all will boo me for flipping a finger at this sacred ritual that everyone on android seems to be following, so allow me to let Google Engineer Diane Hackborn convince you... (unless of course you believe that you understand how Android works even better than the guys that designed it...)
OPEN YOUR EYES (and mind) and READ THIS
Please understand that i am only posting this because all this battery stats wiping and calibration etc is just a pagan ritual and doesn't really help. We're just being herded along like sheep, just as was the case with task managers (still is) aome time ago. Break this vicious cycle...
Enough ranting. It's your phone, do what you want with it. It's not like I'm Steve Jobs (may God have mercy on his soul) or Bill Gates to dictate how you use your phone...
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You have great style, man. Love the relevance of your posts, and well constructed structure. This post made me think again about things we have all blindly accepted as the norm, without even questioning the logic behind them. Thank you for the insight. Battery calibration was the most irritating thing for me, and i will never do this again! I have opened my eyes...
Thanks for this. Its interesting to read, and good to be able to tell my mates "I told you so" as I have never bothered calibrating my battery stats. Getting over 48hrs of normal use (calls, data, wi-fi, texts, browsing etc) on a MIUI build is good enough that I never felt the need to even consider caibrating.
Thanks for the heads up
u should link to this in the battery calibration thread! Afraid I don't know how to cross link whilst posting on my phone.
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It's not completely useless. You can for example delete the batterystats.bin file at any battery level and keep your phone in standby to see what is causing a battery drain in the battery usage UI.
That post by Diane didn't really mention anything about calibration though, just the batterystats file. However I have always been pretty sure that charge/discharge calibration is a myth ever since Li-Ion batteries became mainstream. That type of calibration only really helped with the old school Ni-Cd batteries. I ain't calibrated a battery in my life and I am still alive and happy.
Mother of God!
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How dare you, imposter! challenge our ways of maintaining our handset's life and mind's sanity, how dare you question the teachings of mAhro jr., you dare come to our land, and question our ways that has been passed along from an android's incrementation to another?
Feed The Imposter to the lions!
jk xD
Again, kicking ass with your posts, i always knew that this calibration thing is a gimmick, the effect could be a huge placebo and i think whoever designed android/batteries knows better than to leave the records tied to software, no? anyways great post
But that what would the calibration cult say o3o
Bewinxed said:
How dare you, imposter! challenge our ways of maintaining our handset's life and mind's sanity, how dare you question the teachings of mAhro jr., you dare come to our land, and question our ways that has been passed along from an android's incrementation to another?
Feed The Imposter to the lions!
jk xD
Again, kicking ass with your posts, i always knew that this calibration thing is a gimmick, the effect could be a huge placebo and i think whoever designed android/batteries knows better than to leave the records tied to software, no? anyways great post
But that what would the calibration cult say o3o
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Whoa!! you had me for a second there, brother!!
Thank god for the lines that came later... you're a nasty one!!
Hurr durr
enigmaamit said:
Whoa!! you had me for a second there, brother!!
Thank god for the lines that came later... you're a nasty one!!
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knew you would get that reaction XD, keep on keep it on.
Oh really interresting and usefull.... anyway i was too lazy to do it each time
Myth or not after a rom installation and only if there is a priblem with battery drain if you charge it at full then go into recovery and hit wipe stats trust me there is a difference.
This is not for every day or once a week etc but for only one time and only if there is a problem realky.
I saw devices with big drain to solve their problem by applying that...
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Myth or not after a rom installation and only if there is a priblem with battery drain if you charge it at full then go into recovery and hit wipe stats trust me there is a difference.
This is not for every day or once a week etc but for only one time and only if there is a problem realky.
I saw devices with big drain to solve their problem by applying that...
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Yeah... you must be right.
Google engineers are so full of bull****... we trust you.
nicely put i saw something unusual and someone told to calibrate my battery
so according to you what should be the solution to my problem
check my battery usage graph :silly:
sotmax said:
Myth or not after a rom installation and only if there is a priblem with battery drain if you charge it at full then go into recovery and hit wipe stats trust me there is a difference.
This is not for every day or once a week etc but for only one time and only if there is a problem realky.
I saw devices with big drain to solve their problem by applying that...
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If you take a glucose tablet when you have a headache, you will notice less pain. Trust me. Or else you won't notice any difference...
Never used it... Just never needed it
I agree with the OP about being more open minded about stuff like this. Its good to see this being cleared up, but is that the only way batteries are recalibrated on android devices?? by deleting the batterystats.bin? The only reason is because i know laptops have the option sometimes in the bios to recalibrate the battery. So surely if it was all rubbish then why would it work on laptops and not on phones that use the same type of batteries?
epinephrin3 said:
I agree with the OP about being more open minded about stuff like this. Its good to see this being cleared up, but is that the only way batteries are recalibrated on android devices?? by deleting the batterystats.bin? The only reason is because i know laptops have the option sometimes in the bios to recalibrate the battery. So surely if it was all rubbish then why would it work on laptops and not on phones that use the same type of batteries?
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When I had a defy a difference was noticed when deleting data/battd which was data about the voltage of the battery, unfortunately when I checked on my desire s this folder doesn't exist, so it must be done another way
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I think the biggest complaint can be summed up this way. For HOW the Bolt was shipped, most people feel that they shouldnt have to tweak ANYTHING for it to last them all day. I, to a point agree, however, with that said look at any new computer. Can you pull it out of the box and just run it? Sure you can and it will work well for the AVERAGE user. Now, someone with more knowledge will want MORE out of their computer. Its the same with the battery life. Those of us that use it MORE will see crappy battery life. Why? Because were using it more.
Tips/tricks/apps and what not are for people that are going to use their phone MORE than the AVERAGE user will. My mom gets two days out of her Droid 2 before she has to charge it. ALL of her settings/themes/everything is stock out of the box and never bump charged. My sister has the EXACT same phone and was getting a single day use out of it. I installed JD on both of their phones, and my sister gets a little over a day and a half and my mom gets about two and a half days. My mom RARELY touches her phone while my sisters constantly using it. Two separate users, two separate charge times. One gets amazing battery life, the other complains about how short the battery lasts.
So, if you use your phone more than the AVERAGE user, expect below average battery life. This phone IS a battery hog, I will say that, but then again, my phones in my hand and Im playin with it every chance I get. ;-)
On this one, both parties are right and wrong. So agree to disagree, take the steps to get better battery life or move on. Its getting redic with the amount of threads there are dedicated to this topic.
YOU KNEW WHAT YOU WERE GETTING YOURSELF INTO WHEN YOU GOT THE PHONE.
Here are some links for you.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1027802
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1022434
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cdE4xPfL8Fs
http://www.verizonwireless.com/thunderbolt-trade-extended-battery-2750-mah-cover.shtml
http://androidforums.com/htc-thunderbolt/300920-post-ways-get-awesome-battery-life.html
The only thing I'm confused about is I thought the latest HTC sense was super efficient. I tested the HTC inspire stock ROM with the current widget. And idle power draw was a mind blowing 1mA, sometimes 3mA. That is just superb standby power. Same improved snap dragon CPU, RAM, etc I'd think the thunderbolt would be the same.
RogerPodacter said:
The only thing I'm confused about is I thought the latest HTC sense was super efficient. I tested the HTC inspire stock ROM with the current widget. And idle power draw was a mind blowing 1mA, sometimes 3mA. That is just superb standby power. Same improved snap dragon CPU, RAM, etc I'd think the thunderbolt would be the same.
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Different radios, different processors,different screen types = different power consumption
I did notice on the stock fimware before i rooted that the idle usage was virtually nothing. WAY better than my vibrant was. It seems since ive rooted and undervolted ive lost some battery life, but man the performance is so worth it.
Anyway, we are carrying around full computers with broadband speeds. im not complaining about battery life.
RogerPodacter said:
The only thing I'm confused about is I thought the latest HTC sense was super efficient. I tested the HTC inspire stock ROM with the current widget. And idle power draw was a mind blowing 1mA, sometimes 3mA. That is just superb standby power. Same improved snap dragon CPU, RAM, etc I'd think the thunderbolt would be the same.
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If only.
My Bolt's (stock, rooted, custom rom, whatever) idle drain is about 36-40mA with bounces up to 90mA quite frequently.
Ok guys I apologize. A week ago I setup the current widget on 2 thunderbolt units here at the local Verizon store. Both collected data for a full week.
I just looked at the data and both phones stay at 34mA during idle time. Day after fly, over and over the results were identical, on both units. And they stayed on during the night too!
The bad part is that I did the same on the stock inspire at ATT, and that phone hit 1-3mA doing the same idle use. Which is a superb result. My nexus one stays around 5 mA.
So no wonder the thunderbolt sees worst battery life. You are gonna have to try a different ROM, or remove the crap stuff running.
Interesting though, perhaps Verizon has something running on the ROM. Go stock!
I had good battery capacity when mine was stock. It would last all day. Now if I played with the thing constantly it wouldn't. Using it here and there, I would never hit yellow.
I have tweaked it to get more batt life. I keep the screen on low setting unless I am outside and can't see it. Keep GPS/BT/WIFI off until i need it, and I shut the screen off when I am not actively using it. If you go under information, the screen uses the most battery life. Nothing to do with sense. Even GPS didn't come close to the screen usage. So I make sure the screen is off unless I am actively using it.
RogerPodacter said:
Ok guys I apologize. A week ago I setup the current widget on 2 thunderbolt units here at the local Verizon store. Both collected data for a full week.
I just looked at the data and both phones stay at 34mA during idle time. Day after fly, over and over the results were identical, on both units. And they stayed on during the night too!
The bad part is that I did the same on the stock inspire at ATT, and that phone hit 1-3mA doing the same idle use. Which is a superb result. My nexus one stays around 5 mA.
So no wonder the thunderbolt sees worst battery life. You are gonna have to try a different ROM, or remove the crap stuff running.
Interesting though, perhaps Verizon has something running on the ROM. Go stock!
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Hmm, that's not good. I can confirm that both my Nexus One and nexus S draw about 5mA. Any thoughts on what might be causing the bolt to draw 7 times the amount of power. Is there any way to monitor it?
jlevy73 said:
Hmm, that's not good. I can confirm that both my Nexus One and nexus S draw about 5mA. Any thoughts on what might be causing the bolt to draw 7 times the amount of power. Is there any way to monitor it?
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I really don't know what the reason is other than to say its just the stock ROM. In the other battery thread multiple people posted saying their thunderbolt only hit 30mA during idle. So I was skeptical but not anymore. Particularly because both working devices I checked had such damn similar results, both a little over 30mA. And there was a ton of data, from 2 devices, matching what this forum claims. Only suggestion is use another ROM.
Related story though. Previously I used the same ROM install for 5 months on my n1, and at the end the phone would only hit 50mA during idle over night. Presumably from just months of my data, app installs, etc. Clean flash took it right back to 5mA. Even with all apps re installed. So there is something to lots of crap loaded. Anecdotal, but proof enough for me.
the biggest battery hog for me is the screen, as long as you turn it off when your not using it and keep the auto - lock to 15s battery shouldnt be an issue for anyone
ALso, Juice Defender Beta has been updated on the market, and works well with the TB now.
I'm running the Virus Rom with Adrynalyne's 4.1b Kernel and I **** you not, last night I left my phones screen on (because its set to never dim but I should have the app control that now that I think of it) for 8 hours while I slept. Woke up and looked over at my phone lying on my nightstand with the screen on, picked it up and it was at 20% battery left. I think I passed out when it had 80% but I can't be sure (damn this Kraken Rum)
Either way. People with battery life complaints. I...I pity you.
I'm gettin 12 hours out of my TB
That's about the same as I got off my OG Droid
this is not a signature I type it in every time maybe sent from my phone or my computer
I'm getting about the same as my d1 running gingerbread. I'm still getting the extended battery too though. VZW is giving it to me for 18 dollars...
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McLabia said:
I think the biggest complaint can be summed up this way. For HOW the Bolt was shipped, most people feel that they shouldnt have to tweak ANYTHING for it to last them all day. I, to a point agree, however, with that said look at any new computer. Can you pull it out of the box and just run it? Sure you can and it will work well for the AVERAGE user. Now, someone with more knowledge will want MORE out of their computer. Its the same with the battery life. Those of us that use it MORE will see crappy battery life. Why? Because were using it more.
Tips/tricks/apps and what not are for people that are going to use their phone MORE than the AVERAGE user will. My mom gets two days out of her Droid 2 before she has to charge it. ALL of her settings/themes/everything is stock out of the box and never bump charged. My sister has the EXACT same phone and was getting a single day use out of it. I installed JD on both of their phones, and my sister gets a little over a day and a half and my mom gets about two and a half days. My mom RARELY touches her phone while my sisters constantly using it. Two separate users, two separate charge times. One gets amazing battery life, the other complains about how short the battery lasts.
So, if you use your phone more than the AVERAGE user, expect below average battery life. This phone IS a battery hog, I will say that, but then again, my phones in my hand and Im playin with it every chance I get. ;-)
On this one, both parties are right and wrong. So agree to disagree, take the steps to get better battery life or move on. Its getting redic with the amount of threads there are dedicated to this topic.
YOU KNEW WHAT YOU WERE GETTING YOURSELF INTO WHEN YOU GOT THE PHONE.
Here are some links for you.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1027802
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1022434
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cdE4xPfL8Fs
http://www.verizonwireless.com/thunderbolt-trade-extended-battery-2750-mah-cover.shtml
http://androidforums.com/htc-thunderbolt/300920-post-ways-get-awesome-battery-life.html
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disagree with most of this. i had a droid x prior and am using this device exaclty as much as i did that one. my battery life if HALF what the x was. and before you ask, i've had 4g toggled off continuously for the last week and have seen only marginal improvement.
i realize the t-bolt and the x have different processors/screens/radios, etc, but all-in-all they are pretty close performance-wise when i comes to everyday use. i can see the t-bolt having marginally worse battery life than the droid x, that would be a reasonable expectation. but HALF? sorry, not buying it.
i can't think of any other explanation than that the firmware
htc pushed out on this thing is flawed. not a dev though, so maybe i'm dumb...
If anything you should see improved battery life since the newer snap dragon is more power efficient, etc.
cwininger said:
disagree with most of this. i had a droid x prior and am using this device exaclty as much as i did that one. my battery life if HALF what the x was. and before you ask, i've had 4g toggled off continuously for the last week and have seen only marginal improvement.
i realize the t-bolt and the x have different processors/screens/radios, etc, but all-in-all they are pretty close performance-wise when i comes to everyday use. i can see the t-bolt having marginally worse battery life than the droid x, that would be a reasonable expectation. but HALF? sorry, not buying it.
i can't think of any other explanation than that the firmware
htc pushed out on this thing is flawed. not a dev though, so maybe i'm dumb...
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In the end, were talking about the Bolt, not the X. The X in this case is 100% irrelevant. You can disagree all you want, but my point still stands strong.
No battery complaints here. Half on 3g and half on 4g. This is with the htc extended battery. Running chingys rom with ziggy's latest bfs kernel oced to 1.49. Kik running the whole time.
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You can't compare the X to the thunderbolt. The X has a bigger battery to begin with, so you can't judge power efficiency based on uptime.
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McLabia said:
In the end, were talking about the Bolt, not the X. The X in this case is 100% irrelevant. You can disagree all you want, but my point still stands strong.
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i'm not following you logic here. the droid x is a direct competitor. we're talking apples to apples here. it's significantly better in the battery area. i had an original droid before that and it was much better. how can that be irrelevant?
your notion that "this is just how smartphones are. you knew what you were getting so deal with it" is just plain wrong. we are discussing whether the battery life on the thunderbolt is a weakness or not. look at posts #5 and #6! you're telling me that's normal?
the idea that there are more people praising battery life on this thing than are complaining about it is wrong too. pop over the the htc forums and see the number one beef is over there. go into a verizon store and mention "thunderbolt battery life" to a tech and watch them roll their eyes.
bottom line: the thunderbolt is great in a lot of ways, but for a large percentage of us the battery life is pretty crappy, and for no good reason.
I'm tired of seeing all these battery threads of people saying " I get 18-24 hours of life off a single charge! " To you people I'm saying bs, the only way your getting this kind of life is if your not using your phone. So quit trying to say your a " power user " when your not. Fact is you don't use your phone hardly at all and are trying to " look cool " by making people think that you have some super thunderbolt....lol.
So that being said I take my bolt off the charger at 6am and can burn through the battery by 1030am. I am a power user. Now I will go ahead and post my screen shots of last night and this will show you why I'm calling bs on all these battery threads. The phone was pulled off at 100% charge, on wifi all night really no use besides email and whatever android runs at idle.
Let's all face it, the battery life sucks on the tbolt. As well as the dinc...
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This is just one persons view....don't get butt hurt over it.
Agreed.
If I leave my phone doing nothing for 24 hours, it might last all that time, but as soon as the screen comes off and I do anything with it, all bets are off. Simple texting causes the phone to discharge at the rate of 1 percent/minute. 1400 mah is just too small of battery for this device.. dont know what HTC was thinking. They should have left off the kick stand and made the entire rear of the phone all battery.
Talked with HTC last night. Patch coming out in a week or 2 that will address this issue. Its the way the modem is talking to the system.. Pulling way too much power even when 4G is idle.
Meaningless screenshots on their own. You have to dig into each subscreen and show how long the things were in use to be meaningful. Sure, you're Display used 57% of the battery juice that's been used, but how long was the screen on? 5 hours of the 13? That would be damn good battery life in my opinion. If it was on only 1 hour, maybe you have issues.
A real "power user" would just suck it up and buy the extended battery or buy a cheap spare and keep it in their pocket/wallet if they're going to be away from a charger the whole day. That's what I did, and it's big, ugly and heavy, but the Thunderbolt with the extended battery lasts this "power user" all day long most of the time.
YMMV.
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Meaningless screenshots on their own. You have to dig into each subscreen and show how long the things were in use to be meaningful. Sure, you're Display used 57% of the battery juice that's been used, but how long was the screen on? 5 hours of the 13? That would be damn good battery life in my opinion. If it was on only 1 hour, maybe you have issues.
A real "power user" would just suck it up and buy the extended battery or buy a cheap spare and keep it in their pocket/wallet if they're going to be away from a charger the whole day. That's what I did, and it's big, ugly and heavy, but the Thunderbolt with the extended battery lasts this "power user" all day long most of the time.
YMMV.
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Extended battery is the way to go.
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I 2nd the extended battery!
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distortedloop said:
Meaningless screenshots on their own. You have to dig into each subscreen and show how long the things were in use to be meaningful. Sure, you're Display used 57% of the battery juice that's been used, but how long was the screen on? 5 hours of the 13? That would be damn good battery life in my opinion. If it was on only 1 hour, maybe you have issues.
A real "power user" would just suck it up and buy the extended battery or buy a cheap spare and keep it in their pocket/wallet if they're going to be away from a charger the whole day. That's what I did, and it's big, ugly and heavy, but the Thunderbolt with the extended battery lasts this "power user" all day long most of the time.
YMMV.
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Obviously you need to dig into each subscreen to get a better analysis. However I'm just posting on par with what others are going off of. Also I think you misunderstood my post. I'm not complaining about my battery life, my phone lasts as long as I need it to, which is nowhere near those hours on regular use. I was simply just staying a point towards all the battery threads.
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We all know that the Bolt has battery issues, why are we all so hung up on beating a dead dog? HTC is coming out with a revision until then suck it up and move on to more important things.........
Hmmm screen on for 2 hours straight and only dropped 20%. That means i should end up with about 10 hours with constant use. Seems pretty good to me since I wont be keeping it on for the whole time.
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I 2nd the extended battery!
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Had one.. took it back. There is no reason a cell phone should weigh as much as a Glock 19.
luniz7 said:
I'm tired of seeing all these battery threads of people saying " I get 18-24 hours of life off a single charge! " To you people I'm saying bs, the only way your getting this kind of life is if your not using your phone. So quit trying to say your a " power user " when your not. Fact is you don't use your phone hardly at all and are trying to " look cool " by making people think that you have some super thunderbolt....lol.
So that being said I take my bolt off the charger at 6am and can burn through the battery by 1030am. I am a power user. Now I will go ahead and post my screen shots of last night and this will show you why I'm calling bs on all these battery threads. The phone was pulled off at 100% charge, on wifi all night really no use besides email and whatever android runs at idle.
Let's all face it, the battery life sucks on the tbolt. As well as the dinc...
This is just one persons view....don't get butt hurt over it.
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Agree completely. I'm at 62% after 5 hours off charger and solid lte coverage.
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sounds like you need a tablet, not a phone. these phones are not meant to be constantly on for hours. if thats the case - 4-5 hrs is great when you compare the zsize of the tbolt to the ipad which gets 10 hours.
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I'm tired of seeing all these battery threads of people saying " I get 18-24 hours of life off a single charge! " To you people I'm saying bs, the only way your getting this kind of life is if your not using your phone. So quit trying to say your a " power user " when your not. Fact is you don't use your phone hardly at all and are trying to " look cool " by making people think that you have some super thunderbolt....lol.
So that being said I take my bolt off the charger at 6am and can burn through the battery by 1030am. I am a power user. Now I will go ahead and post my screen shots of last night and this will show you why I'm calling bs on all these battery threads. The phone was pulled off at 100% charge, on wifi all night really no use besides email and whatever android runs at idle.
Let's all face it, the battery life sucks on the tbolt. As well as the dinc...
This is just one persons view....don't get butt hurt over it.
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Well said! I respect your thread because I know what you mean and you are RIGHT! You are not complaining just stating facts. I kind of hate it when people grasp a hold of that "brand loyalty" mentality. Just because I purchased and own this phone (and like it too) doesn't mean I have to overlook and/or deny its flaws. That is how things get improved, with honest feedback. The Thunderbolt is an amazing device, probably the best phone I ever owned and I purchase a new smartphone about every six months. But make no mistake, it has a battery issue. Great to hear that HTC is on it, I knew they would be.
/sarcasm?
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Trevlo said:
Extended battery is the way to go.
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Exactly. I take mine off at about 545 every morning and make it till about 600 at night streaming music over bt all day. Personally I love the extended battery.
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This thread is ridiculous. The only reason you got bad battery life is you sit on 4G and, judging from your screenshot, were most likely downloading a million files at once while listening to music or something. You didn't use anything outside of the OS. This isn't stating facts, its stating personal experience. I am one of the people that can actually get 7-8 hours of use from this phone, and yes I actually USE the phone. So again, this thread = retarded. There were at least four other battery threads to complain in.
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Dont look at this thread it'll just make you mad,
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1030203
My stats are on the second page.
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This thread is ridiculous. The only reason you got bad battery life is you sit on 4G and, judging from your screenshot, were most likely downloading a million files at once while listening to music or something. You didn't use anything outside of the OS. This isn't stating facts, its stating personal experience. I am one of the people that can actually get 7-8 hours of use from this phone, and yes I actually USE the phone. So again, this thread = retarded. There were at least four other battery threads to complain in.
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Everything you just said is "retarded". Why would I put my 4G phone in 3G mode if I'm in a constant 4G area? Almost every one of your points or lack there of isn't even a rebuttal to my points. You obviously can't comprehend anything that I said in the op....
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I agree with the OP, you guys need to stop bragging about to battery life, everyones definition of using the phone as a normal, or power user or whatever is totally different. On a good day, ill get 12 hours with the screen off for about 6-8 hours, others, ill get like 2 hours tops.
It all varies and you guys need to stop bashing the OP, hes just trying to prove a point and honestly hes right, everyone is different. You could just text a couple of times a day and think youre a power user because you have the speed and power of 4g
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It all varies and you guys need to stop bashing the OP, hes just trying to prove a point and honestly hes right, everyone is different. You could just text a couple of times a day and think youre a power user because you have the speed and power of 4g
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There are two sides, some people use the phone one way and are unimpressed by the battery life. Others use the phone a different way and are impressed by the battery life. One side likes to complain that it sucks, the other side likes to say that it's great. Who are you to tell the happy people they should STFU? Likewise, who are the satisfied people to tell the complainers to STFU? HTC & Verizon clearly struck a midpoint with battery life and gave the heavy users an optional heavy battery. Threads like this are truly a waste of space though. If you don't like the battery life, buy an extra or extended battery, or return the phone. If you do like the battery life, great, but a thread on poor battery life is just as useless as a thread on good battery life. There is nothing that will change by making it "known" that the battery life is poor or great since only the end user can make that judgement.
Now look, I've extended an already poor thread.
So I have had the OTA upgrade on my phone for the past few days and the battery life has gotten unbelievably bad. I'm so confused because it seems to have helped a lot of peoples batteries. I have not changed any habits at all and can barely get through the morning. I'm losing 20% just on the 25 minute train ride to work.
Any ideas?
I'm on the same boat as you I hope we can get a helpful answer.
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Still no improvement. There have to be more than just 2 people that have experienced something this drastic. I have made absolutely NO changes other than the update and the battery life is absolutely pathetic --- like 3-4 hours pathetic.
And no I have nothing synching.
ark2612 said:
Still no improvement. There have to be more than just 2 people that have experienced something this drastic. I have made absolutely NO changes other than the update and the battery life is absolutely pathetic --- like 3-4 hours pathetic.
And no I have nothing synching.
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That isn't good at all...may I suggest an extended battery? This is my battery stats for today thus far. I have a chichitec battery. I have 13 widgets, 3 email accounts, and a twitter account syncing every couple of hours.
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Still no improvement. There have to be more than just 2 people that have experienced something this drastic. I have made absolutely NO changes other than the update and the battery life is absolutely pathetic --- like 3-4 hours pathetic.
And no I have nothing synching.
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I'm no expert, but perhaps it'd be worth installing an app that monitors CPU usage. I remember having such battery problems with the Desire HD and it came down the the CPU constantly running at 100%. Perhaps you have an app that took a dislike to the update?
Just a thought...
Craig.
This is my situation also. Battery is the worse battery of any smartphone I've owned, since the update. No root, nothing. I'm either too lazy or not savvy enough to pinpoint this down, as far as apps, what is syncing, how often, blah blah. All I know is I am using it as little as possible b/c of the battery. I have had it 8 days, and REALLY need to call Cust Serv asap so I can get a replacement and see what happens, but I just don't want to go through the hassle of them trying to troubleshoot the phone. I'm also experiencing the HTC Sense reloading when exiting out of apps, and a few other small bugs/glitches, like web pages jumping/skipping around when I am scrolling through them. Sorry to unload on this thread I know it's about battery...
Same problem, but my battery get way way way too hot. All that energy loss getting hot is killing my battery. It gets up to 50+ degrees C. Way to hot and ever since using these 2.3.4 ROMs.
Try calibrating the battery.
You guys also might have gotten a bad battery. I'm pretty sure if you call HTC they'll send you one free if you tell them the battery overheats.
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You guys also might have gotten a bad battery. I'm pretty sure if you call HTC they'll send you one free if you tell them the battery overheats.
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This would make perfect sense if I didn't have my phone from the initial launch day at Walmart and the battery had been great for me UNTIL the upgrade. It's not the battery's fault.
And yes, I have recalibrated. And no, synching is not the issue since everything is the same from prior to the upgrade.
Actually you do need to recalibrate the battery. I had really bad battery life after the ota upgrade, spare parts app and wiping battery stats and now much better battery life than before ota. I have 64% at the moment, unplugged at 7:30am. I used to get 8 hours to a charge right after ota
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Before the Update, my battery life was great, except that occasionally I'd wake my phone up to a Battery meter showing a big grey !, instead of the color-coded indicator. A quick glance online said there was something possibly wrong with the battery, or that it was an unsupported 3rd-party battery
After the update, the battery will suddenly decide its ~70% lower than it was several minutes before, and shut itself down. I had to take the battery out, then put it back in, before the phone would recognize that the battery was actually still mostly charged.
The warning symbol mentioned above was infrequent enough, I could believe it wasn't noticed by everyone having these troubles. I think there's simply something wrong with the batteries, but since the 2.3.4 update, the phone treats the problem differently
kponti said:
Actually you do need to recalibrate the battery. I had really bad battery life after the ota upgrade, spare parts app and wiping battery stats and now much better battery life than before ota. I have 64% at the moment, unplugged at 7:30am. I used to get 8 hours to a charge right after ota
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How did you use "Spare parts"? I downloaded it and I can't find where to wipe the battery stats. I pick battery history and it tells me I'm using gingerbread ROM which does not contain battery stats reporting activity.
An app could be playing up. I know it's annoying but you could try a factory reset and reinstall everything from scratch. I find this helps tame apps that misbehave.
If your phone was fine prior to the update it's unlikely its a battery/hardware issue.
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Try calibrating the battery.
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+1, your battery stats got wiped from the update, so you need to do a few complete charge to 0%'s.
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rosedog said:
How did you use "Spare parts"? I downloaded it and I can't find where to wipe the battery stats. I pick battery history and it tells me I'm using gingerbread ROM which does not contain battery stats reporting activity.
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If I remember correctly from my n1,, spare parts was for rooted phones
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Add me to the list of people whose battery life died after the upgrade. I even tired a factory reset over the weekend to no avail. I also tried switching batteries from another Sensation that I have which wasn't being used but no luck there either. In my mind it definitely is a software issue. And to think I used to brag about this phone's battery life!
I just need to root this thing and move on. Was hoping the HTC root process would come out soon. The instructions make rooting HTC's seem more complicated than my Samsung Vibrant which was pretty simple.
How do you calibrate the battery? lawl
If you're rooted, you can download an app called Battery Calibration that will help with calibrating the battery.
Otherwise, basically run your phone up to 100%, then drain it down to 0 until it shuts off, then recharge it back to 100%. Do this several times over the course of a few days and it should be calibrated.
Been experiencing the same thing. Finally got around to checking wakelock, and found that HTC sense had wakelocked the phone for 9 hours (the awake bar in system settings was solid). Some quick googling suggests that in certain cases, the HTC Sense sync can do this, so our common denominator may be that we all have a sense account set up.
I've disabled sense in my accounts, and killed the sense service. We'll see if that "fixes" it.
I know about calibrating my battery via cwm and apps. My issue is that after flashing a new rom, calibrating battery and charging (with the power on and off) the life gets sucked dry pretty much either after a reboot or flashing a tweak. I'm never able to get it calibrated correctly afterwards. What can be done to get the battery life back so I can enjoy the benefits of the rom and tweaks?
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digitallure said:
I know about calibrating my battery via cwm and apps. My issue is that after flashing a new rom, calibrating battery and charging (with the power on and off) the life gets sucked dry pretty much either after a reboot or flashing a tweak. I'm never able to get it calibrated correctly afterwards. What can be done to get the battery life back so I can enjoy the benefits of the rom and tweaks?
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Battery calibrating is more to make you feel better than for making your battery run better. You might have your battery tested to see if it is going bad. You can search for the thread in the general section about google debunking battery calibration.
I'm with Lumin; your battery needs to be tested or possibly replaced. Wiping the batterystats.bin file does not actually calibrate the battery. Good luck to you.
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When you say after flashing do you mean immediately or are you waiting a couple days to allow the phone to settle in?
After flashing anything that wipes the dalvik, system, data, files it takes some battery power to rebuild them. Also rebooting the phone several times will use more battery than just letting it run. So many more operations need to be ran after a power cycle.
Not discounting the posters above but more info is needed to make those assessments. You could have a bad battery but if your powering the phone on and off several times or flashing files frequently battery life will be affected.
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When you say after flashing do you mean immediately or are you waiting a couple days to allow the phone to settle in?
After flashing anything that wipes the dalvik, system, data, files it takes some battery power to rebuild them. Also rebooting the phone several times will use more battery than just letting it run. So many more operations need to be ran after a power cycle.
Not discounting the posters above but more info is needed to make those assessments. You could have a bad battery but if your powering the phone on and off several times or flashing files frequently battery life will be affected.
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It's a mixture of both. What would happen, say i have about 75% battery life, my phone will start acting funky (sluggish, slow to respond or no response for some time) I'll either pull the battery, or reboot (depending on how funky it's acting) then it'll go from 75% to 20% or less.Sometimes it'll build back up if i'm not actively doing anything with the phone. Haven't seen how much the battery will build back up to because i'm using it for something or need to charge back up so i can get through the rest of the day.
I've seen posts about the calibrating thing being useless, which all makes sense, but i've been doing it out of habit for the most part. Im not discrediting what you are saying but it's just a puzzle trying to figure out why this happens.
Here's a screenshot i took a while back of the example i'm experiencing.
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That, to me, would indicate a bad battery. I could be wrong.
I want to say that I flashed a tweak when that happened. can't remember exactly but that's basically what happens.
If you think it was a tweak, maybe try going back to stock and use Thomas' Gremlin remover. Let it soak in for a few days and see if it makes a difference.
You mean just use the stock rom for a few days?
BTW, I went to t-mobile and ordered a new battery. So we'll see what happens when it comes
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digitallure said:
You mean just use the stock rom for a few days?
BTW, I went to t-mobile and ordered a new battery. So we'll see what happens when it comes
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Yes irrc that rom is debloated. So it wouldnt be too bad.
Not sure why but I cant see the picture.
I hope your battery issues are fixed with the new battery.
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You mean just use the stock rom for a few days?
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Yeah. And it's not debloated; it's the full ROM.
BTW, I went to t-mobile and ordered a new battery. So we'll see what happens when it comes
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Cool. Keep us posted; let us know how it goes.
My Gremlin remover should help with your issues... Find it in my signature... Follow the OP to the letter...
Also, I would check your running processes, and see if you have any "bad apps" that are running in the background hogging up memory, and/or fetching updates every 15 minutes or something.
i.e. Facebook
What would be a good app to see what is running and how long (how much power) they are using?
thomas.raines said:
My Gremlin remover should help with your issues... Find it in my signature... Follow the OP to the letter...
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Yeah, I've been using that since you released it.
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Also, I would check your running processes, and see if you have any "bad apps" that are running in the background hogging up memory, and/or fetching updates every 15 minutes or something.
i.e. Facebook
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I found an app that does that but it's showing my usual apps I use plus a few others that just run, but it wouldn't make my battery drop dramatically like the screenshot.
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Yeah, I've been using that since you released it.
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When you restore your data, are you only restoring your apps/data that you downloaded and not system apps/data?
How long have you onwed your phone? How often do you let the battery die out completely? It has been brought to our attention, fairly recently, that allowing our batteries to die fully and recharge can be a bad thing. The effect is much similar to a laptop battery in the since, if you leave the laptop plugged in and never let the battery die fully, then it will burn out. However, our batteries, being of a different type, are just the opposite, in that, the more often we recharge, the better battery life expectancy we will have. With that being said, it is possible that your battery has reached the end of it's life, and you may need a new one since you have performed the Gremlin Remover, and I can only pressume that you have tried all 3 parts of the Gremlin Remover.
Try SuperManager, it is a very useful app for finding out what is running, removing useless apps, clearing data cache a dalvik cache, etc. But it can be a memory/battery hog if you use the app killer and what not. I personally just keep the apk on my sdcard and only install it when needed, then uninstall it when I am done (as well as titanium backup and a few other tool type apps that I use).
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When you restore your data, are you only restoring your apps/data that you downloaded and not system apps/data?
How long have you onwed your phone? How often do you let the battery die out completely? It has been brought to our attention, fairly recently, that allowing our batteries to die fully and recharge can be a bad thing. The effect is much similar to a laptop battery in the since, if you leave the laptop plugged in and never let the battery die fully, then it will burn out. However, our batteries, being of a different type, are just the opposite, in that, the more often we recharge, the better battery life expectancy we will have. With that being said, it is possible that your battery has reached the end of it's life, and you may need a new one since you have performed the Gremlin Remover, and I can only pressume that you have tried all 3 parts of the Gremlin Remover.
Try SuperManager, it is a very useful app for finding out what is running, removing useless apps, clearing data cache a dalvik cache, etc. But it can be a memory/battery hog if you use the app killer and what not. I personally just keep the apk on my sdcard and only install it when needed, then uninstall it when I am done (as well as titanium backup and a few other tool type apps that I use).
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I've had my phone for I guess a year now. I'm using titanium backup to restore my apps and data. No I don't restore the system apps all but Facebook and YouTube. (always seem to be in the system apps) I guess as of recent I don't let it die out much but when I get home from work, sometimes I let it die out then charge overnight. I may try and uninstall apps I don't use much and install them on a need basis. I guess from the response, my battery may be bad. When I went to t-Mobile,the guy said it sounds like a battery issue and to see what the new battery does. It should be here Friday or next week.
Go to settings/apps/running services and list them here.
Also go to settings/accounts and sync and list the accounts that are there and if they have sync "on".
I only have my gmail account set to sync. All others (like facebook) are off - I can manually sync them when I decide to open them
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thomas.raines said:
How often do you let the battery die out completely? It has been brought to our attention, fairly recently, that allowing our batteries to die fully and recharge can be a bad thing. The effect is much similar to a laptop battery in the since, if you leave the laptop plugged in and never let the battery die fully, then it will burn out. However, our batteries, being of a different type, are just the opposite, in that, the more often we recharge, the better battery life expectancy we will have. With that being said, it is possible that your battery has reached the end of it's life, and you may need a new one since you have performed the Gremlin Remover, and I can only pressume that you have tried all 3 parts of the Gremlin Remover.
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Where did you get this information Thomas? I would like to read this and investigate further since I have been one of those people that let my battery die out completely every time before I charge it. It worked fine for my razr phone but maybe the sgs4g is different. Perhaps it is time I change my charging habits.
As always, your work is appreciated and your comments are insightful.
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Where did you get this information Thomas?
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Lots of reading on this site:
http://batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/charging_lithium_ion_batteries
Hey guys.. I'm new here and I plan to stick around..
I just bought a used (for 1 year) Galaxy SL from my friend at a throwaway price. It's in superb condition and everything. Its been a few days, and here's the stuff I've done till now -
1. Immediately upgraded to DDLF2 (India) using Kies. Found some bugs after upgrade. For example, the promised "Video Snapshot" feature wasn't there. Also, the phone rebooted randomly many times in the day and battery ran out quickly (after about 3-4 hrs of moderate usage)
2. Next day, after noticing the weirdness, I decided to flash a custom rom. I heard from many, many sources that Frankenstain Mod and the Bam kernel, along with DDLF2, are the perfect combination for stable performance, nice looks and great battery life. So, following some instructions, I rooted my phone and flashed the rom and kernel. I was (am) REALLY impressed with the final result. I went ahead and installed apps, played games, showed off etc etc..
But sadly, the battery problem still remains. Of course, it has definitely improved a little, but the maximum it can stand till now is abt 6 hours (light-moderate use). Adding to the misery, I am a heavy user. I love playing games, composing music and sometimes doing homework in my phone. I installed JuiceDefender, SetCPU, Battery Saver Pro (which helped in increasing abt an hour). I listened to almost any piece of advice I got. I read through these forums too.
My previous phone running bada OS (Samsung Wave 525) had awesome battery life, which lasted for 2-3 days of HEAVY usage. Of course, I can't expect the same from an Android device, but seriously, is it this bad? And why is this happening? Is it because of -
1. The mod/kernel?
2. Worn-out battery? (i doubt it, every app states that the battery is "healthy")
3. Some internal problem in the phone?
Or is this just something every owner of this phone faces?
Sorry for the long post. Help is greatly appreciated. :fingers-crossed:
Iam on ddlf2
RapidGunner said:
Hey guys.. I'm new here and I plan to stick around..
I just bought a used (for 1 year) Galaxy SL from my friend at a throwaway price. It's in superb condition and everything. Its been a few days, and here's the stuff I've done till now -
1. Immediately upgraded to DDLF2 (India) using Kies. Found some bugs after upgrade. For example, the promised "Video Snapshot" feature wasn't there. Also, the phone rebooted randomly many times in the day and battery ran out quickly (after about 3-4 hrs of moderate usage)
2. Next day, after noticing the weirdness, I decided to flash a custom rom. I heard from many, many sources that Frankenstain Mod and the Bam kernel, along with DDLF2, are the perfect combination for stable performance, nice looks and great battery life. So, following some instructions, I rooted my phone and flashed the rom and kernel. I was (am) REALLY impressed with the final result. I went ahead and installed apps, played games, showed off etc etc..
But sadly, the battery problem still remains. Of course, it has definitely improved a little, but the maximum it can stand till now is abt 6 hours (light-moderate use). Adding to the misery, I am a heavy user. I love playing games, composing music and sometimes doing homework in my phone. I installed JuiceDefender, SetCPU, Battery Saver Pro (which helped in increasing abt an hour). I listened to almost any piece of advice I got. I read through these forums too.
My previous phone running bada OS (Samsung Wave 525) had awesome battery life, which lasted for 2-3 days of HEAVY usage. Of course, I can't expect the same from an Android device, but seriously, is it this bad? And why is this happening? Is it because of -
1. The mod/kernel?
2. Worn-out battery? (i doubt it, every app states that the battery is "healthy")
3. Some internal problem in the phone?
Or is this just something every owner of this phone faces?
Sorry for the long post. Help is greatly appreciated. :fingers-crossed:
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1. Its not the mod /kernel. Since I use the XDA-Bam kernel 15 cr5. So far no issues and the battery lasts at least full day. with heavy usage.
2. May be. Even I doubt it.
3. Not sure with the internal problem, but i doubt that there wont be any internal problem as well since you are using heavy applications
with out any lag.
suggestion
1. Do battery calibration
2. Recharge full until you get 100%
3. Clear the battery stats with cwm
4 again drain the battery completely.
5. Recharge it full to 100%
see if it works for you
Press thanks if it helps you
I have calibrated my battery already. It had helped in solving a major problem (wrong display of battery stats). But battery life hasn't been improved in any way.
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Perhaps your battery's dead.try usb port charging.
As a side note, my battery lasts Atleast two days on Frank mod after moderate use.
Since you seem new to android,http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=32235503
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Yes, it's like that. Most people say "heavy usage", but they don't imagine that people actually use their phone all the time. I'm always streaming music via 3G, reading news articles, auto-sync on 24/7, social-networking, and sometimes playing games. My phone doesn't make it through the day.
People that claim that their phones are lasting 2-3 days usually don't have a data plan, don't use wifi that much, don't play games, and don't use facebook. That's great for them, but I like to use my phone, and when you're making the most out of your Android, it'll run out of juice in 6 hours.
All Android phone are like this. If you're going to use a smartphone, you're going to have to have a charger nearby all the time.
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Yes, it's like that. Most people say "heavy usage", but they don't imagine that people actually use their phone all the time. I'm always streaming music via 3G, reading news articles, auto-sync on 24/7, social-networking, and sometimes playing games. My phone doesn't make it through the day.
People that claim that their phones are lasting 2-3 days usually don't have a data plan, don't use wifi that much, don't play games, and don't use facebook. That's great for them, but I like to use my phone, and when you're making the most out of your Android, it'll run out of juice in 6 hours.
All Android phone are like this. If you're going to use a smartphone, you're going to have to have a charger nearby all the time.
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Well said man. Nice to see people admitting android being backward in the battery department. I guess battery technology hasn't advanced much yet, compared to smartphones themselves. Manufacturers have to choose between a thin, sleek design with abysmal battery and a "fat" one with more reliability. I guess they prefer the former, which is leading to problems like this...
And yeah, regarding usb charging, i've seen that it doesn't charge as fast as normal wall charging... Is it normal too?
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RapidGunner said:
Well said man. Nice to see people admitting android being backward in the battery department. I guess battery technology hasn't advanced much yet, compared to smartphones themselves. Manufacturers have to choose between a thin, sleek design with abysmal battery and a "fat" one with more reliability. I guess they prefer the former, which is leading to problems like this...
And yeah, regarding usb charging, i've seen that it doesn't charge as fast as normal wall charging... Is it normal too?
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Yes, that's normal. The voltage is about have as much, so it takes about twice as long to charge via USB cable.
RapidGunner said:
Well said man. Nice to see people admitting android being backward in the battery department. I guess battery technology hasn't advanced much yet, compared to smartphones themselves. Manufacturers have to choose between a thin, sleek design with abysmal battery and a "fat" one with more reliability. I guess they prefer the former, which is leading to problems like this...
And yeah, regarding usb charging, i've seen that it doesn't charge as fast as normal wall charging... Is it normal too?
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I read somewhere that samsung was investigating new hydrogen batteries that would make smartphones to last for some weeks
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samisax said:
Yes, it's like that. Most people say "heavy usage", but they don't imagine that people actually use their phone all the time. I'm always streaming music via 3G, reading news articles, auto-sync on 24/7, social-networking, and sometimes playing games. My phone doesn't make it through the day.
People that claim that their phones are lasting 2-3 days usually don't have a data plan, don't use wifi that much, don't play games, and don't use facebook. That's great for them, but I like to use my phone, and when you're making the most out of your Android, it'll run out of juice in 6 hours.
All Android phone are like this. If you're going to use a smartphone, you're going to have to have a charger nearby all the time.
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Totally agree with you...mine last less than half a day with normal use similar to yours..it will only last around a day plus if it's in 100% sleep mode
as in my opinion, everything is right with your battery.
u are using ur phone fully, so don't expect to much.
try the better battery stat app, it will show real stones in juice eaters.
I switched from CM9 to GB (Frank mod) mainly due to battery drain. But did not make a difference. However if i keep data off, battery lasts much longer, otherwise it drains around 30% at night. I am pretty sure XXKPQ was much better but don't want to go back. Anyone have other suggestions.
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cm9 is not a solution either.
best way is to switch to ddlf2 or xwlf2, bam kernel last version. imo, of course.
and main thing - try to find biggest eater. betterbatterystats will help you.
cukierkas said:
cm9 is not a solution either.
best way is to switch to ddlf2 or xwlf2, bam kernel last version. imo, of course.
and main thing - try to find biggest eater. betterbatterystats will help you.
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Frank mod is ddlf2. But still there is battery drain.
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here is the answer. lookout antivirus. it keeps your device alive instead of sleeping properly. you really need it?
magic locker is not a friend either. try to disable them first, make some discharge cycles without them and post the screens with screen time as well.
different problem
i dont have drainage problem...bt my phone takes a loooooooooot of time to get charged..... i have to charge for about 6-7 hours for the battery to fully charged frm 10%... i did not have this problem befor i used DDLF2
My suggestion: do not install antivirus apps, they drain the battery like hell! For the night battery endurance, just enable the deep sleep function (I use No frills cpu, you can enable the deep sleep from the settings menu) and set the governor and scheduler as you wish.
Battery drain is no more a problem for me since I'm on the Frank's MOD.
Remember to do a full recharge (with the device turned off) and a wipe battery stats for optimize the recharging time.
Cheers
wakelocks means your phone being unable to go to sleep mode for certain periods of time (usually because of retarded apps).
Antivirus on android/linux = scam.
that 3G Watchdog crap, do you really need it? (is the battery drainage worth it?)
I would say your battery duration seems normal, considering you're actually using your phone nonstop plus there's those crap background apps running all the time.
BUT if you wanna be sure about it, why don't you make a nandroid backup (using recovery mode), then factory reset? That should get you back to a clean ROM installation, then calibraty and test your battery overnight (of course make sure your phone is going to sleep mode and is using proper cpu governor). This is the most reliable way to see if your battery drain is related to usage, or just a faulty battery. Go clean, let it sleep, see how much battery it drains.
After this, restore the nandroid backup and clean your phone accordingly (remove crap apps or whatever).
Good luck!
for those on CM9, search for alpha 11 kernel in the general discussion thread...flash that over CM9 alpha 14
i get 3 days of battery on low usage......its pretty similar to ddlf2 in terms of battery drain for me atleast.....and i get ics too....
you can also use droidwall to block all the applications which use internet wihout any reason. they will block un-authorised access to internet and will surely cut a good volume of data usage but remember this works only if ur device is rooted
Hi I'm on paranoidandroid based on cm10 alpha3 and the battery life is at its best 14 hs!!!!
I will try some alpha 4 and check if battery life is improved, else some GB