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[i9003] vs [i9000]

Hello everyone, by chance i got both the mobiles with me for a month
[i9003] and [i9000] galaxy S.
Comparison:
1. The screen of i9000 is better than i9003, but i9003 is more like true colours.
I9000 got a yellowish tinge on the screen,which is not that good !
2. Camera of i9003 is better than i9000, really.
3. Processing of i9003 is much faster than i9000.
4. Graphics of i9000 is better.
5. Battery life of i9003 is slightly better than i9000
6. Sound quality of i9003 and i9000 is similar, tested with several headphones on both, couldn't make out any difference.
NOTE: i9003 had xxkb3 firmware and i9000 had gingerbread latest 2.3.4(xxjvp)
IF ANY MORE DOUBTS, PLEASE ASK SOON AS I JUST HAVE IT FOR SOME MORE TIME !!

Wow.
I'd never thought the i9003 would win on so many aspects! I don't mean to insult you, but I wanted to ask several questions to clarify this matter (signed up as a noob just to post in this thread )
- Are the two devices fair to compare? (In terms of age, OS version, apps installed and running in background, etc.)
- What are the symptoms that made you decide that i9003 has better processing power?
- When you said that the i9003 has better camera, what aspects did you mean? And is there any noticable difference in the time they take to shoot and save a picture?
- Have you compared the loudspeaker and the earpiece (instead of using an earphone)? What are the results?
I'm sorry for the many questions. I am very excited about this topic. Many thanks to you

tanmayrocks said:
Hello everyone, by chance i got both the mobiles with me for a month
1. The screen of i9000 is better than i9003, but i9003 is more like true colours.
I9000 got a yellowish tinge on the screen,which is not that good !
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This sounds strange: If screen is better then it is better. BTW the different is not only in colors, but also in:
1. SAMOLED uses more power in white screen than SLCD (SLCD uses more power in black screen)
2. SLCD has better sharpness because of different structures of pixels
Look at these pictures (SAMOLED is in the left side)
http://www.gsmarena.com/showpic.php.../phone/gsmarena_006.jpg&idReview=562&idPage=2

Hello all I have both handset but sl used by me and galaxy s is by my brother.
What I have notice that:
1. Lcd is produce more nature color picture (but black not that nature compare to sgs)but somehow amoled is overall winner. But in my opinion I like my Slcd.
2. battery of sl is better, you can get 1 or 2 hour.
3. Rest both handset Are same but sgs beat Sl in huge in graphic department. It has more capable gpu.
4. One thing I don't like about my sl is it unable to play unconverted 720 mkv available on net. Where my sgs play them smoothly with native player.
5. One more thing make huge difference is custom rom and developer support in community.
In the end Sgs is overall winner.
I consider sgsl good buy due to its price in india but unability to play hd mkv smoothly is make me anger on such a Great device.
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bprabawabr said:
- Are the two devices fair to compare? (In terms of age, OS version, apps installed and running in background, etc.)
- What are the symptoms that made you decide that i9003 has better processing power?
- When you said that the i9003 has better camera, what aspects did you mean? And is there any noticable difference in the time they take to shoot and save a picture?
- Have you compared the loudspeaker and the earpiece (instead of using an earphone)? What are the results?
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1. Yes, the two devices are fare to compare, as they have similar hardware, with only minute differences and there are a lot of people out there waiting for a practical comparision of two.
(i9000 has an edge running latest gingerbread that also 2.3.4, but i9003 will also get that soon)
2. Processing Power: opening the gallery, i9000 takes more time, i9000 still lags at many places(though i think that can be fixed) and in some more places i could feel practically.
3. i9003 better camera: it does click quickly, but the main comparison in quality is because of the tinge that i9000 has cause of amoled, the pictures on i9003 are far better, comparing with same settings(side by side), i still got to compare them putting on laptop.
4. i compared the sound quality via headphones only, asi dont have digital equips for that, but i could't find any difference.

Fail on so many behalfs, its amazing how many people will read something and believe it.
Both processors are clocked @ 1GHz, although the hummingbird comes out on top as the best single core processor, do your research.
We have bluetooth 3.0, i9003 has 2.0
Graphics processor we have the SGX540 and the i9003 has the SGX530.
Super AMOLED/+ screens are beautiful to look at, can't get much better really.
Simple, there's a reason why the i9003 is cheaper.
Also, the better battery life on the i9003 is due the the battery being 1650mAh and the i9000 being 1500mAh

JOKE -.- No offense though! I have seen SL in action..my close friend has it but haha declaring SGSL winner over SGS JOKE!

tanmayrocks said:
1. Yes, the two devices are fare to compare, as they have similar hardware, with only minute differences and there are a lot of people out there waiting for a practical comparision of two.
(i9000 has an edge running latest gingerbread that also 2.3.4, but i9003 will also get that soon)
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I am one of those people
AFAIK, hummingbird is claimed to perform 10-20% better than OMAP (both @ 1GHz), which is why I'm surprised at your results
2. Processing Power: opening the gallery, i9000 takes more time, i9000 still lags at many places(though i think that can be fixed) and in some more places i could feel practically.
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Opening the gallery can be affected by numerous factors such as the number of pictures, the number of folders, etc.
At what places exactly does the i9003 lags? I'm most interested in the UI (will most probably use Go Launcher EX, if that helps)
3. i9003 better camera: it does click quickly, but the main comparison in quality is because of the tinge that i9000 has cause of amoled, the pictures on i9003 are far better, comparing with same settings(side by side), i still got to compare them putting on laptop.
4. i compared the sound quality via headphones only, asi dont have digital equips for that, but i could't find any difference.
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OK, thank you very much for your help
I'm still keeping my eye on this thread
PaulForde said:
Also, the better battery life on the i9003 is due the the battery being 1650mAh and the i9000 being 1500mAh
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However, the supposedly more consuming SLCD puts the question back in... and now it's answered!
adhikarb said:
JOKE -.- No offense though! I have seen SL in action..my close friend has it but haha declaring SGSL winner over SGS JOKE!
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What, specifically, makes you believe so strongly?
I think it's better to be specific here because people's needs vary. I, for one, don't really care about gaming performance, save for the occasional bird-hurling , which doesn't really use much GPU as much as it uses the CPU (to calculate the physics and all).
Thanks before

seriously i never said i9003 is better than i9000.. both have their pros and cons...it was just a comparision and i never said i9000 was inferior or anything.
(Left pic:i9000, right:i9003
though i dont know if this proves the thing, i was talking more practically rather than specifically)

bprabawabr said:
I am one of those people
AFAIK, hummingbird is claimed to perform 10-20% better than OMAP (both @ 1GHz), which is why I'm surprised at your results
Opening the gallery can be affected by numerous factors such as the number of pictures, the number of folders, etc.
At what places exactly does the i9003 lags? I'm most interested in the UI (will most probably use Go Launcher EX, if that helps)
OK, thank you very much for your help
I'm still keeping my eye on this thread
However, the supposedly more consuming SLCD puts the question back in... and now it's answered!
What, specifically, makes you believe so strongly?
I think it's better to be specific here because people's needs vary. I, for one, don't really care about gaming performance, save for the occasional bird-hurling , which doesn't really use much GPU as much as it uses the CPU (to calculate the physics and all).
Thanks before
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First of all..it lagged pretty badly while multi-tasking....
Secondly..admit it..SAMOLED just looks SOO better after the VOODOO color fix! (w/o it too!).
Third point Gaming performance and Hummingbird chip=win!
Fourth point XDA Support! We are a family of more than 10 million!!
Pros of SGSl
1. Cheaper! (Big factor of our market (INDIA))
2. Comparable to its big bro i9000 but NOT its replacement
3. Upgradeable to 2.3 like i9000(I hope so..have u guys got GB yet? )

PaulForde said:
Fail on so many behalfs, its amazing how many people will read something and believe it.
Both processors are clocked @ 1GHz, although the hummingbird comes out on top as the best single core processor, do your research.
We have bluetooth 3.0, i9003 has 2.0
Graphics processor we have the SGX540 and the i9003 has the SGX530.
Super AMOLED/+ screens are beautiful to look at, can't get much better really.
Simple, there's a reason why the i9003 is cheaper.
Also, the better battery life on the i9003 is due the the battery being 1650mAh and the i9000 being 1500mAh
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Dude shudnt u be the one doin the research???sgsl has bt 3.0. Just google abt the cpu and u will get to kno which one is better.samoled vs slcd is a matter of personal choice.i m quite sure u hav never seen a sgsl display thats why u r so arrogant in ur remark.cause ppl who has seen both tend to go for the slcd due to usablity issues.excpt for the gpu part sgs is by no means better than sgsl.then again whats the use of such gpu when i m playin all the hd games currently available flawlessly.u may like ur sgs.but that doesnt allow u to flaunt around tryin to disrespect other peoples opinion. the sgs that r available currently are refurbished ones.so ppl who r plannin to go for sgsl,do it.u wont regret,unless u want an awesome gpu without any practical use.
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tanmayrocks said:
seriously i never said i9003 is better than i9000.. both have their pros and cons...it was just a comparision and i never said i9000 was inferior or anything.
(Left pic:i9000, right:i9003
though i dont know if this proves the thing, i was talking more practically rather than specifically)
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Nah, that would be my post they're referring to. Maybe.
Not that I made such general and conclusive statement
adhikarb said:
First of all..it lagged pretty badly while multi-tasking....
Secondly..admit it..SAMOLED just looks SOO better after the VOODOO color fix! (w/o it too!).
Third point Gaming performance and Hummingbird chip=win!
Fourth point XDA Support! We are a family of more than 10 million!!
Pros of SGSl
1. Cheaper! (Big factor of our market (INDIA))
2. Comparable to its big bro i9000 but NOT its replacement
3. Upgradeable to 2.3 like i9000(I hope so..have u guys got GB yet? )
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Hmm.. I can live with subpar screen, also without outstanding gaming capabilities..
The XDA support is something I will *someday* miss, I suppose. I've always wanted to know what Cyanogen is all about
However, between i9000 and i9003, I can't choose i9000, as it's gone extinct here in Indonesia. I was merely using i9000 as a benchmark for i9003's performance, but that's for my own personal purposes and needs
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Oh, where's my manners? Thanks again for ur input!

adhikarb said:
JOKE -.- No offense though! I have seen SL in action..my close friend has it but haha declaring SGSL winner over SGS JOKE!
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I support u on this.
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rdr_m said:
gpu without any practical use.
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U r right but gpu part goes to sgs. Day to day life hd mkv play important role to me. Yes our sgsl can play all available games with good framerate. But I dont think majority of people play graphic intensives games but most of people want atleat a device which can handle unconverted movies on their device. I have invest my 20k in sgsl and not happy with this news.
Otherwise this device Is great buy over sgs.
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Dude just check the two phones side by side and look at the display and it will be easier to decide ;-)
This is so funny.ppl keep braggin abt gamin performance of sgs.seriously dude,just check youtube and see how asphalt 6 runs on sgsl.lol.games are made in a way so that they can run on majority of the devices.they arent sgs or power vr540 exclusive.and its not computer games we are talkin abt here.like i said awesome gpu with no practical use.
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Dude the movie playback issue is due to driver issue.not hardware.just hav patience and wait.sumthin will turn up.then agn it takes only 5 or 6 min extra for kies to convert the files without any loss of quality at all.so dont be so unhappy for that extra 5mins man.
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lol my milestone is better than sgs ...my milestone can be oc upto 1.2ghz and it has a cpu of just 600 mhz and gaming is much better on 480*854 resolution and i have got good battery life in 1400 mhz and both sgsl and milestone having ARM Cortex A8 processor, PowerVR SGX530 and the only diff. is the frequency of cpu

SGS has the better support developer wise. Cyanogen mod etc. end of story.
no app in the android market is gonna take advantage of the Power VR540 gpu.
OMAP is a better processor than hummingbird for heaven's sake, just because of its extensive overclocking capabilities! however on the SGSL, since OMAP cannot be overclocked i guess i'll have to give it to hummingbird.
AMOLED is awesome. period.
battery consumption on SGS is lower, due to AMOLED. hence the 1500mah battery. SGSL sucks battery life wise. SLCD is a battery hog.
conclusion? in the current scheme of things, going for SGSL makes more sense, economically, and maybe one can upgrade to SGS II next year.

I was able to compare the two displays side by side and I must say that while samoled has better contrast and awesome blacks, slcd is sharper. I personally prefer sharpness to deeper black.
Besides, I'll never buy a samoled device because samoled burns so easly... in less than a year you'll have a permanent system bar on the top of the display, and this sucks if you spent 500€.

i don't see why would you put this in the development topic
closed?

Why the sensation, can't beat O2X or SGSII?

That is my question, ive seen some benchmarks...
And all, in 3D is very bad... on the first 3D test, ony gets 20FPS, when the optimus 2X and SGSII gets arround 50-60 FPS...
On all the other test 3D it's the same practically...
So... why doesn't have better performance? it cost about the same as SGSII and O2X
thanks

tomeu0000 said:
That is my question, ive seen some benchmarks...
And all, in 3D is very bad... on the first 3D test, ony gets 20FPS, when the optimus 2X and SGSII gets arround 50-60 FPS...
On all the other test 3D it's the same practically...
So... why doesn't have better performance? it cost about the same as SGSII and O2X
thanks
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test with what ? btw don't forget the +35% pixel count ... it should render 35% moe every time. and i didnt have any problems playing anything ... samu vegeance2, asphalt 6, tegra pinball hd ... all run smooth. and to benchmark current phones with quadrant man ... try cf-bench or linpack for pure cpu performance. sgs2 is faster in these with 10-30% depending on test. when resolution counts usually more, when not (simple calculating) less. my friend had a sgs2 before i bough my sensation. this is much better (overall) for usage

r3v0Lut10n said:
test with what ? btw don't forget the +35% pixel count ... it should render 35% moe every time. and i didnt have any problems playing anything ... samu vegeance2, asphalt 6, tegra pinball hd ... all run smooth. and to benchmark current phones with quadrant man ... try cf-bench or linpack for pure cpu performance. sgs2 is faster in these with 10-30% depending on test. when resolution counts usually more, when not (simple calculating) less. my friend had a sgs2 before i bough my sensation. this is much better (overall) for usage
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So... What do you think is better overall?
I have an SGSII, but i whant to test that Sensation and O2X.
Generally only whant a powerfull device, for a 1 year and 6 months ( due my contract with vodaphone xD )
The screen on Sensation, is really better than O2X or SGSII? i mean that 35% more pixels are apreciable?

I have reason to believe that its just software related.
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xamadeix said:
I have reason to believe that its just software related.
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Can you be more especific please?

tomeu0000 said:
So... What do you think is better overall?
I have an SGSII, but i whant to test that Sensation and O2X.
Generally only whant a powerfull device, for a 1 year and 6 months ( due my contract with vodaphone xD )
The screen on Sensation, is really better than O2X or SGSII? i mean that 35% more pixels are apreciable?
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I won't say the screen is "better" because there are other factors like black levels, color reproduction, viewing angles, etc. But as far as extra pixels, it makes a TON of difference especially in the web browser, e-readers, and in mail. Honestly not sure I would consider a non-qhd phone right now. I would personally take a lesser quality qhd over a higher quality wvga... at least to an extent.

qHD is indeed excellent. I'm getting so used to it now, that 800x480 phones feel like the old Hero 480x320 res.
You get so much screen real estate with qHD. The keyboard doesn't take up over half your screen anymore, meaning that you can see more gtalk, more of an email when typing etc. And the browsing is gorgeous.
But yes, as far as the quality of the screen goes, there are far better panels out there.

optimus 3d or evo 3d?

which one do you people suggest?
my needs are good camera,good 3d experience,durability,battery,Gaming,HD video playback smoothly on phone and on HDTV also!
Does the 512MB ram compared to 1GB make a big difference?
please share your experience with the phone as well

smackdownn said:
which one do you people suggest?
my needs are good camera,good 3d experience,durability,battery,Gaming,HD video playback smoothly on phone and on HDTV also!
Does the 512MB ram compared to 1GB make a big difference?
please share your experience with the phone as well
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I have a O3D so I'm guessing I'm bias but from what I've heard the 3D on O3D is much better than the 3D on EVO 3D, camera works ok on the O3D, slow camera app but descent pics and video and 3D pics/vid looks good.
Durability no problems there AFAIK.
Battery is low yes but it will most likely get better and there are always solutions to that problem, Gaming works great, HD video playback is no problems and the O3D is the phone with most media format compatibility and HDMI output works great for me.
The RAM difference only matters really when you use all the RAM and with normal use 512 is enough, also when version 2.4/4 of Android comes that's more optimized against dual core systems then the O3Ds Dual RAM and Dual Channel will probably shine much more and performance will get a boost.

Echts said:
I have a O3D so I'm guessing I'm bias but from what I've heard the 3D on O3D is much better than the 3D on EVO 3D, camera works ok on the O3D, slow camera app but descent pics and video and 3D pics/vid looks good.
Durability no problems there AFAIK.
Battery is low yes but it will most likely get better and there are always solutions to that problem, Gaming works great, HD video playback is no problems and the O3D is the phone with most media format compatibility and HDMI output works great for me.
The RAM difference only matters really when you use all the RAM and with normal use 512 is enough, also when version 2.4/4 of Android comes that's more optimized against dual core systems then the O3Ds Dual RAM and Dual Channel will probably shine much more and performance will get a boost.
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i heard O3D is only 2.2 and it was written upgradeable to 2.3..is the 2.3 out already? if no then do u know when it will be out?

smackdownn said:
which one do you people suggest?
my needs are good camera,good 3d experience,durability,battery,Gaming,HD video playback smoothly on phone and on HDTV also!
Does the 512MB ram compared to 1GB make a big difference?
please share your experience with the phone as well
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the evo 3d got better pop out effects, better resolution wich helps alot in 3d.
also got better camera, wich displays pictures in full screen. the optimus 3d does not do this. Also makes better pictures in dark.
The optimus 3d got better 3d viewing angles. its more relaxed to the eye, but the quality is less then on the evo 3d for sure.
if you do not have problems with viewing angle's and focussing on the screen(you wont get headaches from 3d) then definatly get the evo 3d for better 3d. Other reviews say the o3d got a better 3d screen...thats nonsense. the evo 3d got in both camera 3d and 3d screen, better hardware. Although again, the optimus 3d is really better for the eyes...makes your eyes less tired.
Durability...i think the optimus 3d wins here. the volume buttons on the evo 3d do not feel really confortable, kinda soft...
Battery: evo 3d lasts longer for sure...although dont know if that changes when the o3d will be upgraded to android 2.3 in the future.
Performance:
the optimus 3d is way faster for sure. thats why i traded my evo 3d for the optimus 3d. the evo 3d lags everywhere, you need to wait everywhere(compared to other high end phones).
I hate waiting and wanted smoothness before anything else but 3d.
cant tell anything about HDMI output and have not played 1080p videos yet.
i owned both devices, i know what i talk about
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borgqueenx said:
the evo 3d got better pop out effects, better resolution wich helps alot in 3d.
also got better camera, wich displays pictures in full screen. the optimus 3d does not do this. Also makes better pictures in dark.
The optimus 3d got better 3d viewing angles. its more relaxed to the eye, but the quality is less then on the evo 3d for sure.
if you do not have problems with viewing angle's and focussing on the screen(you wont get headaches from 3d) then definatly get the evo 3d for better 3d. Other reviews say the o3d got a better 3d screen...thats nonsense. the evo 3d got in both camera 3d and 3d screen, better hardware. Although again, the optimus 3d is really better for the eyes...makes your eyes less tired.
Durability...i think the optimus 3d wins here. the volume buttons on the evo 3d do not feel really confortable, kinda soft...
Battery: evo 3d lasts longer for sure...although dont know if that changes when the o3d will be upgraded to android 2.3 in the future.
Performance:
the optimus 3d is way faster for sure. thats why i traded my evo 3d for the optimus 3d. the evo 3d lags everywhere, you need to wait everywhere(compared to other high end phones).
I hate waiting and wanted smoothness before anything else but 3d.
cant tell anything about HDMI output and have not played 1080p videos yet.
i owned both devices, i know what i talk about
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in O3D dont we have popping effect? i mean like we see on 3dtv's? so it the 3d very bad? how much do u give it out of 10? and how much do u give for evo 3d?

smackdownn said:
in O3D dont we have popping effect? i mean like we see on 3dtv's? so it the 3d very bad? how much do u give it out of 10? and how much do u give for evo 3d?
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yes the optimus 3d has the popping out effect. but its really better on the evo3d...watched same movies and images..its simply better on the evo 3d. and the resolution of the evo 3d makes the 3d alot more sharper as well.
I give the evo 3d a 7/10 in 3d and the optimus a 6/10.
the optimus 3d however, got alot more 3d content. a 3d menu, reinstalled 3d games, 3d photo gallery... but i hate to see the optimus 3d photo's scaled with black bars on the edge of the screen. how stopid cold LG think.
the next 3d phone should have a even larger resolution, and desame view angle's / eye relaxation specs as the optimus 3d, then its worth a 10/10 i think

borgqueenx said:
yes the optimus 3d has the popping out effect. but its really better on the evo3d...watched same movies and images..its simply better on the evo 3d. and the resolution of the evo 3d makes the 3d alot more sharper as well.
I give the evo 3d a 7/10 in 3d and the optimus a 6/10.
the optimus 3d however, got alot more 3d content. a 3d menu, reinstalled 3d games, 3d photo gallery... but i hate to see the optimus 3d photo's scaled with black bars on the edge of the screen. how stopid cold LG think.
the next 3d phone should have a even larger resolution, and desame view angle's / eye relaxation specs as the optimus 3d, then its worth a 10/10 i think
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are u talking about the images shot by the phone or every 3d image we load onto the phone has black bars beside it?

he's talking about how the pictures taken from the camera has black bars on the top and bottom of the screen if looking in portrait mode and black bars on the left and right side of the screen if looking in landscape mode.
And it wouldn't make much sense if the pictures we took will fill up the screen, since the photos are taken with a 4:3 ratio. Either it'll be stretched out or cut off if it was viewed full screen. If the pictures were taken as a widescreen then it'll be fullscreen so don't worry you probably wont even be bothered by the space since you're still seeing the entire picture.
I've also used a friend's Evo3D and I would definitely say the Optimus 3D's 3D effect is much better. Strangely enough, my opinion is opposite of borgqueenx. I feel like the 3D popping effect is better in the Optimus.
In terms of 3D, i say the optimus wins.
For camera, Evo3D wins without any questions. Unless LG could bring a better update to the camera... the picture qualities kinda sucks.
For durability, its pretty much tied. Both phones are very well made.
Gaming and video playback are both good so that shouldn't affect your decision.
Battery life though... I have no idea what the battery life in the Evo3D is, but for the Optimus 3D, battery life isn't that high. I'm using the stock battery with 3G always turned on or wifi always turned on at home. Minimum usage would last me over 8 hours and longer. However, when gaming or watching videos battery would be dead in about 2 hours.

it simply sucks that LG didnt made it that the camera takes widescreen photo's.
the 3d is much better if viewed in widescreen.
The evo 3d is made in widescreen, and fill up the entire screen.
Therefore i think its stopid why LG chose for this aspect ratio.
But performance really sucks on the evo 3d.

DevJackey said:
he's talking about how the pictures taken from the camera has black bars on the top and bottom of the screen if looking in portrait mode and black bars on the left and right side of the screen if looking in landscape mode.
And it wouldn't make much sense if the pictures we took will fill up the screen, since the photos are taken with a 4:3 ratio. Either it'll be stretched out or cut off if it was viewed full screen. If the pictures were taken as a widescreen then it'll be fullscreen so don't worry you probably wont even be bothered by the space since you're still seeing the entire picture.
I've also used a friend's Evo3D and I would definitely say the Optimus 3D's 3D effect is much better. Strangely enough, my opinion is opposite of borgqueenx. I feel like the 3D popping effect is better in the Optimus.
In terms of 3D, i say the optimus wins.
For camera, Evo3D wins without any questions. Unless LG could bring a better update to the camera... the picture qualities kinda sucks.
For durability, its pretty much tied. Both phones are very well made.
Gaming and video playback are both good so that shouldn't affect your decision.
Battery life though... I have no idea what the battery life in the Evo3D is, but for the Optimus 3D, battery life isn't that high. I'm using the stock battery with 3G always turned on or wifi always turned on at home. Minimum usage would last me over 8 hours and longer. However, when gaming or watching videos battery would be dead in about 2 hours.
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8 hours in minimal use and 2 hours in gaming???? :O :O :O even my captivate lasts more than that..!

smackdownn said:
8 hours in minimal use and 2 hours in gaming???? :O :O :O even my captivate lasts more than that..!
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yes, battery life on the optimus 3d sucks. its better on the evo 3d. but not by much. the evo 3d gets about 3 hours of gaming max.
But the optimus 3d gets a android update in october(at least according to the rumours) that will improve battery by a bit.

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8 hours in minimal use and 2 hours in gaming???? :O :O :O even my captivate lasts more than that..!
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Nonsense likes. I routinely get 26 to 34 hours of normal use. Gaming does use the battery fast though. You can game solid on a heavy 3d game for 6 -7 hours though from a full charge which is plenty of time. Its a phone not a console.
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hefonthefjords said:
Nonsense likes. I routinely get 26 to 34 hours of normal use. Gaming does use the battery fast though. You can game solid on a heavy 3d game for 6 -7 hours though from a full charge which is plenty of time. Its a phone not a console.
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no, the 6 hours you say, is the nonsense. i have juice ultimate saver(or whatever the name was) and set on only connect and sync apps on the 15 minutes. and i do not have email automaticly synced. brightness auto, and i cant get more then 3 hours of gaming on the device.

lol
You gotta remember that I'm only using stock battery and 3G is always on.
Battery is alright actually.
The captivate will definitely last longer. I believe its because of the AMOLED screen.
At the moment, I'm hoping LG will release an update that does allow us to take widescreen photos.

borgqueenx said:
the evo 3d got better pop out effects, better resolution wich helps alot in 3d.
also got better camera, wich displays pictures in full screen. the optimus 3d does not do this. Also makes better pictures in dark.
The optimus 3d got better 3d viewing angles. its more relaxed to the eye, but the quality is less then on the evo 3d for sure.
if you do not have problems with viewing angle's and focussing on the screen(you wont get headaches from 3d) then definatly get the evo 3d for better 3d. Other reviews say the o3d got a better 3d screen...thats nonsense. the evo 3d got in both camera 3d and 3d screen, better hardware. Although again, the optimus 3d is really better for the eyes...makes your eyes less tired.
Durability...i think the optimus 3d wins here. the volume buttons on the evo 3d do not feel really confortable, kinda soft...
Battery: evo 3d lasts longer for sure...although dont know if that changes when the o3d will be upgraded to android 2.3 in the future.
Performance:
the optimus 3d is way faster for sure. thats why i traded my evo 3d for the optimus 3d. the evo 3d lags everywhere, you need to wait everywhere(compared to other high end phones).
I hate waiting and wanted smoothness before anything else but 3d.
cant tell anything about HDMI output and have not played 1080p videos yet.
i owned both devices, i know what i talk about
hope this helps
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LOL HTC evo 3d doesn't lag. Also you can overclock it to 2.0 Ghz

Yes the evo 3d does lag. Its minimal, but even minimal lag is not acceptable in a simple homescreen.

borgqueenx said:
Yes the evo 3d does lag. Its minimal, but even minimal lag is not acceptable in a simple homescreen.
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so the 3vo lags in homescreen? and o3d dosent lag at all?

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so the 3vo lags in homescreen? and o3d dosent lag at all?
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the o3d does...but much much less then the evo 3d.
And i also like the keyboard on the optimus 3d more...but thats because i come from a iphone 4.

Don't know how about evo but on o3d I've put 1080p movie in mkv and the phone played it like a dream and after connecting it via HDMI to my 46 led TV it played the same movie like a proper blu ray player I love it
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With subtitle support at mkv files?

O3D 3D effect vs EVO 3D's?

Between the EVO 3D and the Optimus 3D/LG Thrill, which has the better 3D quality?
I'm not talking about 3D camera quality, I'm talking purely about how the 3D looks on the screen. I've probably seen an equal amount of answers going for one or the other, so I figured I'd go and ask specifically. Yes, I realize asking here I'll probably get a biased answer, but I'm hoping that somebody here has used an EVO 3D for more than a few seconds and can comment.
Reason I ask is because I'm basically deciding between getting a $600+ Galaxy Note and a ~$200 EVO 3D (one with a bad ESN) or a $300-$400 Optimus 3D and some 7" tablet down the line. If the difference isn't that huge, then I'd probably rather go for the first option partially since Otterbox makes cases for the EVO 3D.

okay. so if you are playing games in 3d or watching movies in 3d then both devices are gonna look equally great. the difference is if you are viewing images or videos you have taken with either device. in this case the lg optimus 3d will look much better... why? because the cameras have a greater distance apart between them then the evo 3d. the closer it is to the distance our eyes are actually apart the better the effect and the easier on the eyes.
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Trekfan422991 said:
okay. so if you are playing games in 3d or watching movies in 3d then both devices are gonna look equally great. the difference is if you are viewing images or videos you have taken with either device. in this case the lg optimus 3d will look much better... why? because the cameras have a greater distance apart between them then the evo 3d. the closer it is to the distance our eyes are actually apart the better the effect and the easier on the eyes.
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So what you're saying is that the 3D effect is basically the same - as in, watching the same 3D movie on each phone, there wouldn't be much of a difference? Again, I'm not talking about 3D camera quality (I'll be getting a Fuji W3 for that, which I know far outclasses either device), I'm mainly concerned about the actual 3D screen quality/effect.

Viewing 3D video & photo on on both are most the same (using other media files). But if u r taking video or photo from both devices and viewing together, O3D will be much better as Camera hardware were installed differently.
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veasna.kelly said:
Viewing 3D video & photo on on both are most the same (using other media files). But if u r taking video or photo from both devices and viewing together, O3D will be much better as Camera hardware were installed differently.
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Alright, thanks for the info.
So another related question - other than the better 3D camera, better 3D apps (like the specific 3D Youtube app), and better specs, is there anything else the O3D has over the Evo 3D? And speaking of specs, is there anything other than high-end gaming that the O3D's better CPU/RAM will do noticeably better than the Evo 3D? Don't try and sell me that it'll be smoother, because my 800Mhz single-core G2 is pretty smooth.
I'm asking because may be considering another phone instead of the Note (the Nokia N9), and figure I should know before I jump on the Evo 3D based mostly on price.

The O3D has a 2D-3D video/image/game converter. Evo3D does not to my knowledge. It is quite nice being able to take a video file that is not 3D and converting it on the fly. Instead of loading actual 3D video files, just use any ol' vid file. Even downloaded web vids. There is also the ability to take a game like Dead Space and play it in 3D. Or Angry Birds and many others. I am not knocking Evo in any way. LG has been engineering their 3D equipment longer than other manufacturers. They have just been in the game longer than htc (who has only one 3D device) and they don't use it on just mobile applications. IMHO LG wins based on its extra features which will come in handy later even if you don't plan on it until later. Hope I helped. ;-)

Deth Becomes You said:
The O3D has a 2D-3D video/image/game converter. Evo3D does not to my knowledge. It is quite nice being able to take a video file that is not 3D and converting it on the fly. Instead of loading actual 3D video files, just use any ol' vid file. Even downloaded web vids. There is also the ability to take a game like Dead Space and play it in 3D. Or Angry Birds and many others. I am not knocking Evo in any way. LG has been engineering their 3D equipment longer than other manufacturers. They have just been in the game longer than htc (who has only one 3D device) and they don't use it on just mobile applications. IMHO LG wins based on its extra features which will come in handy later even if you don't plan on it until later. Hope I helped. ;-)
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Eh, I've seen enough 3D movies to decide that unless it's made in 3D (unlike some 2D movies nowadays that tack on 3D for a cash-in) then I'd rather not bother, and same goes for gaming (had nVidia 3D Vision for a few months and played enough games to see that it's basically hit-or-miss as to whether the 3D effect is worth the inevitable headache I'll get after using 3D for more than 2-3 hours consecutively).
I guess it'll mostly come down to price when I end up buying either a month or so from now - if the O3D isn't much more than $100 more (if even that) then I'll go and buy it, and get the Evo 3D otherwise.

magus57 said:
Eh, I've seen enough 3D movies to decide that unless it's made in 3D (unlike some 2D movies nowadays that tack on 3D for a cash-in) then I'd rather not bother, and same goes for gaming (had nVidia 3D Vision for a few months and played enough games to see that it's basically hit-or-miss as to whether the 3D effect is worth the inevitable headache I'll get after using 3D for more than 2-3 hours consecutively).
I guess it'll mostly come down to price when I end up buying either a month or so from now - if the O3D isn't much more than $100 more (if even that) then I'll go and buy it, and get the Evo 3D otherwise.
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I have 3D Vision on my PC and I know about the hit-or-miss thing with some games in 3D. However this doesn't occur with the O3D, every game (if it runs at all in 3D) will look very good with the 3D feature, you will just have to worry about lower framerates on some graphically intensive games. It also has settings to change the 3D effect to your liking. The 3D technology used in the O3D is completely different from Nvidia 3D Vision, as it doesn't use active shutter glasses that can cause headaches from extended use.
If you aren't so concerned about performance, then why consider the Galaxy Note? The O3D is pretty close to the Samsung Galaxy S II in terms of performance according to most benchmarks.
As for Evo 3D vs Optimus 3D, I have not used the Evo 3D but I know the Optimus has better 3D software (Game Converter, Youtube 3D App, Video/Photo Playback/Editing), combined with more powerful hardware.
If you want a case similar to the Otterbox for the O3D, there's the Ballistic SG. I use it and can attest to it's quality.
Another note, I have seen some (used) Optimus 3D go for less than $300 on eBay...the Thrill 4G is even cheaper (if you don't need the T-Mobile USA band)

MABManZ said:
I have 3D Vision on my PC and I know about the hit-or-miss thing with some games in 3D. However this doesn't occur with the O3D, every game (if it runs at all in 3D) will look very good with the 3D feature, you will just have to worry about lower framerates on some graphically intensive games. It also has settings to change the 3D effect to your liking. The 3D technology used in the O3D is completely different from Nvidia 3D Vision, as it doesn't use active shutter glasses that can cause headaches from extended use.
If you aren't so concerned about performance, then why consider the Galaxy Note? The O3D is pretty close to the Samsung Galaxy S II in terms of performance according to most benchmarks.
As for Evo 3D vs Optimus 3D, I have not used the Evo 3D but I know the Optimus has better 3D software (Game Converter, Youtube 3D App, Video/Photo Playback/Editing), combined with more powerful hardware.
If you want a case similar to the Otterbox for the O3D, there's the Ballistic SG. I use it and can attest to it's quality.
Another note, I have seen some (used) Optimus 3D go for less than $300 on eBay...
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Hmm, that definitely makes me rethink it then, if it really is that good - although I can't say I'm that interested in mobile gaming (compared to watching videos in 3D, at least). I'm mostly interested in performance because one thing my G2 can't do well is play high-res videos.
And I'm interested in the Note for a few reasons, such as the stylus, high screen resolution and quality, and the actual size of it (I'd use a 7" tablet as a phone if I could).
The main reason I wouldn't want to use the O3D as my phone is because the main uses out of it - 3D videos and gaming on the side - would tax the battery a bit; that's why I'm also considering the Nokia N9 as my next phone (for the nice unibody construction, long battery life, smooth/sleek/simple OS, etc.), since then I wouldn't have two similarly sized Android devices with the primary differences being that one makes phone calls and the other does 3D.
Do they make any decent extended batteries for the O3D, particularly ones compatible with any cases? A nice one might make me just go for the O3D alone...
And I'm looking at the O3D over the Thrill particularly for the better official updates and dev community, and the fact that I simply can't buy a device without original packaging/accessories (kinda OCD about that) brings up the price to $350+ for me.

magus57 said:
Hmm, that definitely makes me rethink it then, if it really is that good - although I can't say I'm that interested in mobile gaming (compared to watching videos in 3D, at least). I'm mostly interested in performance because one thing my G2 can't do well is play high-res videos.
And I'm interested in the Note for a few reasons, such as the stylus, high screen resolution and quality, and the actual size of it (I'd use a 7" tablet as a phone if I could).
The main reason I wouldn't want to use the O3D as my phone is because the main uses out of it - 3D videos and gaming on the side - would tax the battery a bit; that's why I'm also considering the Nokia N9 as my next phone (for the nice unibody construction, long battery life, smooth/sleek/simple OS, etc.), since then I wouldn't have two similarly sized Android devices with the primary differences being that one makes phone calls and the other does 3D.
Do they make any decent extended batteries for the O3D, particularly ones compatible with any cases? A nice one might make me just go for the O3D alone...
And I'm looking at the O3D over the Thrill particularly for the better official updates and dev community, and the fact that I simply can't buy a device without original packaging/accessories (kinda OCD about that) brings up the price to $350+ for me.
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mugen 3400mah with case for o3d ranging from 65-95 usd depending on where you find it. makes your phone last at least 50% more. google it and you will see.Also some japanese 2430mah gold battery that some people say is fake but for my friend it has worked great giving him round 25% more juice and this one is slim standard size so no need for cases...

jimakos29 said:
mugen 3400mah with case for o3d ranging from 65-95 usd depending on where you find it. makes your phone last at least 50% more. google it and you will see.Also some japanese 2430mah gold battery that some people say is fake but for my friend it has worked great giving him round 25% more juice and this one is slim standard size so no need for cases...
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Managed to find it (it's 3200mAh apparently), but I can't find the case - unless you mean the battery door it comes with. I'm wondering if there's a case that fits with that extended battery door.
In any case, I'm really tempted to get one with that battery now - thanks for the info.
EDIT: Two more question, actually:
-Does the stock Gingerbread update include notification power toggles (as in, pulling down the notification bar and being able to toggle Wifi, 3G, etc.) or is that something in custom ROMs?
-Are there any major problems with the stock ROM? I don't want to deal with the instability of custom ROMs or losing 3D or Bluetooth or something

magus57 said:
Managed to find it (it's 3200mAh apparently), but I can't find the case - unless you mean the battery door it comes with. I'm wondering if there's a case that fits with that extended battery door.
In any case, I'm really tempted to get one with that battery now - thanks for the info.
EDIT: Two more question, actually:
-Does the stock Gingerbread update include notification power toggles (as in, pulling down the notification bar and being able to toggle Wifi, 3G, etc.) or is that something in custom ROMs?
-Are there any major problems with the stock ROM? I don't want to deal with the instability of custom ROMs or losing 3D or Bluetooth or something
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The phone has notification power toggles ever since first froyo version and yes they are here in gb as well. No major bugs in gb stock. Some people report wifi and network problems (ghostcalls etc) but given that they have been reportin it since froyo versions I guess it something else going on.I have never had any problems at all neither on froyo nor on gb. Phone is really smooth and works as it is supposed to. Battery drains within normal rates for dualcore phone with a 4.2inch screen and in anyway much more resilient than sgsII (which i used to have for 3 weeks or so...)

[Q] HTC Incredible S or LG Optimus 2x?

Hi there, i want to buy a new phone and im having a hard time picking between the HTC Incredible S and the LG Optimus 2x.
My first android phone was the HTC Desire :
I loved it! was a very nice phone and i am a fan of HTC , loved Sense UI, loved the screen and everything. Really enjoyed flashing custom roms on it thanks to this site! i spent most of my time changing roms every 2-3 weeks lol (very friendly in that matter)
then i sticked to the MIUI rom towards the end
After a while i got fed up of this phone.
My second android phone was a Samsung galaxy S I9000:
This phone was notably faster and smoother than the HTC Desire! the screen was VERY nice, bigger, clearer sharper, more vibrant and despite it's size, it was still light and pocket friendly
the HD video was smoother than the Desire's one (no lag).
Customized it quite a bit but the phone didn't seem to like the custom roms as much as the HTC Desire did (MIUI would have problems like when i call someone, the other person can't hear me; when i put other roms they would work for a week and then start slowing down...) and didn't have much of a problem with it, battery life up to 3 days!!! until it fell from the 3rd floor and the LCD screen broke lol fml
I'm taking this opportunity to change phones and am thinking of these two
Galaxy S II is too expensive here and i can't afford any other phones atm.
I like the Incredible S because it's a much better version of the Desire which i fell in love with, it has a newer sense version and a lot more to offer (8mp camera etc etc). But im afraid i might get fed up of the sense again like i did for the desire... i can always change roms but i heard it's harder to do with this phone.
The LG optimus 2x also looks appealing because of it's dual core processor and 1080p video shooting ( which i heard lags quite a bit ).
The software is definitely a turn off and seems laggy... but i am hoping to fix that once i put a custom rom.
What are your insights about this? It would definitely help me a lot!
Oh and Battery life is also another important factor. I managed to pull almost 3 days most of the time with my I9000 with some tweaking. (no 3g network in Bangladesh).

Hey Dude KaFrEEkAbOom Here
Here are few reasons why you should Consider About Incredible s
1. Wifi hotspot
Share your phone's Internet connection with wifi devices
2.Bluetooth
2,1
3.Average speed max data speeds
HSDPA (14,4 mbps)
4.Vivid screen
Super LCD
5.Long talk time
9,6 hours
6.Average weight
136 g
Also Here are the Disadvantages of Incredible S
1. Poor video recording, 720p footage is pretty jerky
2. Uninspiring audio quality
And Also there are lot of bugs found on this device
Such like Camera issues,And there Was WCDMA issue, Siganal
I think this is a buggy device
Here are few reasons why you should Consider About LG Optimus 2x
1.Multiple processor cores
Dual core
2.Video output
Display pictures and video on TVs or other devices
3.Full HD
1080p
4.Lots of internal storage
7,8 GB
5.Fast download speed
7,34 mbps
6.Average standby time
16,7 days
7.Thin
11 mm
8.Average battery capacity
1 500 mAh
9.Average size
63x123x10 mm
10.Average latency
83 ms
11.Average web browser performance
1 253 ms
Here Are Disadvantages of 2x
No Camera Button
Anyway Optimus 2x have bugs too
Such like random device shut off's
handset got warmed while charging that those aren't affect on every handset
So I think You should Buy LG Optimus 2x Instead of Incredible S(Incredible BUggy )
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I agree, go for the 2x

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