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Today at the tmobile store : it seems to feel very nice in hand and it is a good looking device ,actually I'm on it tight now ,the weather animations are cool and sense 3.0 is pretty nice , I could only muster a high of 1987 on quadrant scores after several tries ,the screen is slightly smaller than my HD2 screen but its a lot brighter ,the camera takes great pics and the hd recording is great also , sense still seems to lag just a bit ,that was suprising I thought that would be gone but its not , over all I like the phone ,screen resolution and hardware upgrades too good to pass up ,my overall score b+ ,almost an A, this phone barely and i mean barely pulls me away from my HD2 running android , if it werent for the front facing camera then i wouldnt even think about it, im sure xda wil turn this phone(sensation) into a monster ,so no worries here
Also they come with Wi-Fi calling
same size screen both are 4.3", just different aspect ratios.
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Just appears smaller in hand bc its a little more narrow but a bit longer...
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i really didnt see it being longer but it was more narrow ,but i havent seen a 4.3 yet that was the same exact size as the hd2 ,its just wider than most 4.3's
I got to say that when I played with it in the tmo store I was underwhelmed with its performance. There was no wow factor with the speed like the g2x and sense seemed laggy and unnecessary save for the status bar tweaks. I honestly did not notice any thing faster about it other than camera vs my nexus one on cm7. It seems like those subpar benchmark scores are pretty accurate honestly as real world performance seems to be right at the single core snap dragon (mytouch 4g)
Of course it will be faster when it is rooted and hacked but the g2x was faster right out of the box. I am honestly considering a hd2 on Cl for 200 and then hacking it until the Samsung Hercules or nexus 3 because the sensation doesn't seem like much of improvement.
Was anyone disappointed when they played with it?
Hello everyone, by chance i got both the mobiles with me for a month
[i9003] and [i9000] galaxy S.
Comparison:
1. The screen of i9000 is better than i9003, but i9003 is more like true colours.
I9000 got a yellowish tinge on the screen,which is not that good !
2. Camera of i9003 is better than i9000, really.
3. Processing of i9003 is much faster than i9000.
4. Graphics of i9000 is better.
5. Battery life of i9003 is slightly better than i9000
6. Sound quality of i9003 and i9000 is similar, tested with several headphones on both, couldn't make out any difference.
NOTE: i9003 had xxkb3 firmware and i9000 had gingerbread latest 2.3.4(xxjvp)
IF ANY MORE DOUBTS, PLEASE ASK SOON AS I JUST HAVE IT FOR SOME MORE TIME !!
Wow.
I'd never thought the i9003 would win on so many aspects! I don't mean to insult you, but I wanted to ask several questions to clarify this matter (signed up as a noob just to post in this thread )
- Are the two devices fair to compare? (In terms of age, OS version, apps installed and running in background, etc.)
- What are the symptoms that made you decide that i9003 has better processing power?
- When you said that the i9003 has better camera, what aspects did you mean? And is there any noticable difference in the time they take to shoot and save a picture?
- Have you compared the loudspeaker and the earpiece (instead of using an earphone)? What are the results?
I'm sorry for the many questions. I am very excited about this topic. Many thanks to you
tanmayrocks said:
Hello everyone, by chance i got both the mobiles with me for a month
1. The screen of i9000 is better than i9003, but i9003 is more like true colours.
I9000 got a yellowish tinge on the screen,which is not that good !
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This sounds strange: If screen is better then it is better. BTW the different is not only in colors, but also in:
1. SAMOLED uses more power in white screen than SLCD (SLCD uses more power in black screen)
2. SLCD has better sharpness because of different structures of pixels
Look at these pictures (SAMOLED is in the left side)
http://www.gsmarena.com/showpic.php.../phone/gsmarena_006.jpg&idReview=562&idPage=2
Hello all I have both handset but sl used by me and galaxy s is by my brother.
What I have notice that:
1. Lcd is produce more nature color picture (but black not that nature compare to sgs)but somehow amoled is overall winner. But in my opinion I like my Slcd.
2. battery of sl is better, you can get 1 or 2 hour.
3. Rest both handset Are same but sgs beat Sl in huge in graphic department. It has more capable gpu.
4. One thing I don't like about my sl is it unable to play unconverted 720 mkv available on net. Where my sgs play them smoothly with native player.
5. One more thing make huge difference is custom rom and developer support in community.
In the end Sgs is overall winner.
I consider sgsl good buy due to its price in india but unability to play hd mkv smoothly is make me anger on such a Great device.
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bprabawabr said:
- Are the two devices fair to compare? (In terms of age, OS version, apps installed and running in background, etc.)
- What are the symptoms that made you decide that i9003 has better processing power?
- When you said that the i9003 has better camera, what aspects did you mean? And is there any noticable difference in the time they take to shoot and save a picture?
- Have you compared the loudspeaker and the earpiece (instead of using an earphone)? What are the results?
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1. Yes, the two devices are fare to compare, as they have similar hardware, with only minute differences and there are a lot of people out there waiting for a practical comparision of two.
(i9000 has an edge running latest gingerbread that also 2.3.4, but i9003 will also get that soon)
2. Processing Power: opening the gallery, i9000 takes more time, i9000 still lags at many places(though i think that can be fixed) and in some more places i could feel practically.
3. i9003 better camera: it does click quickly, but the main comparison in quality is because of the tinge that i9000 has cause of amoled, the pictures on i9003 are far better, comparing with same settings(side by side), i still got to compare them putting on laptop.
4. i compared the sound quality via headphones only, asi dont have digital equips for that, but i could't find any difference.
Fail on so many behalfs, its amazing how many people will read something and believe it.
Both processors are clocked @ 1GHz, although the hummingbird comes out on top as the best single core processor, do your research.
We have bluetooth 3.0, i9003 has 2.0
Graphics processor we have the SGX540 and the i9003 has the SGX530.
Super AMOLED/+ screens are beautiful to look at, can't get much better really.
Simple, there's a reason why the i9003 is cheaper.
Also, the better battery life on the i9003 is due the the battery being 1650mAh and the i9000 being 1500mAh
JOKE -.- No offense though! I have seen SL in action..my close friend has it but haha declaring SGSL winner over SGS JOKE!
tanmayrocks said:
1. Yes, the two devices are fare to compare, as they have similar hardware, with only minute differences and there are a lot of people out there waiting for a practical comparision of two.
(i9000 has an edge running latest gingerbread that also 2.3.4, but i9003 will also get that soon)
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I am one of those people
AFAIK, hummingbird is claimed to perform 10-20% better than OMAP (both @ 1GHz), which is why I'm surprised at your results
2. Processing Power: opening the gallery, i9000 takes more time, i9000 still lags at many places(though i think that can be fixed) and in some more places i could feel practically.
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Opening the gallery can be affected by numerous factors such as the number of pictures, the number of folders, etc.
At what places exactly does the i9003 lags? I'm most interested in the UI (will most probably use Go Launcher EX, if that helps)
3. i9003 better camera: it does click quickly, but the main comparison in quality is because of the tinge that i9000 has cause of amoled, the pictures on i9003 are far better, comparing with same settings(side by side), i still got to compare them putting on laptop.
4. i compared the sound quality via headphones only, asi dont have digital equips for that, but i could't find any difference.
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OK, thank you very much for your help
I'm still keeping my eye on this thread
PaulForde said:
Also, the better battery life on the i9003 is due the the battery being 1650mAh and the i9000 being 1500mAh
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However, the supposedly more consuming SLCD puts the question back in... and now it's answered!
adhikarb said:
JOKE -.- No offense though! I have seen SL in action..my close friend has it but haha declaring SGSL winner over SGS JOKE!
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What, specifically, makes you believe so strongly?
I think it's better to be specific here because people's needs vary. I, for one, don't really care about gaming performance, save for the occasional bird-hurling , which doesn't really use much GPU as much as it uses the CPU (to calculate the physics and all).
Thanks before
seriously i never said i9003 is better than i9000.. both have their pros and cons...it was just a comparision and i never said i9000 was inferior or anything.
(Left pic:i9000, right:i9003
though i dont know if this proves the thing, i was talking more practically rather than specifically)
bprabawabr said:
I am one of those people
AFAIK, hummingbird is claimed to perform 10-20% better than OMAP (both @ 1GHz), which is why I'm surprised at your results
Opening the gallery can be affected by numerous factors such as the number of pictures, the number of folders, etc.
At what places exactly does the i9003 lags? I'm most interested in the UI (will most probably use Go Launcher EX, if that helps)
OK, thank you very much for your help
I'm still keeping my eye on this thread
However, the supposedly more consuming SLCD puts the question back in... and now it's answered!
What, specifically, makes you believe so strongly?
I think it's better to be specific here because people's needs vary. I, for one, don't really care about gaming performance, save for the occasional bird-hurling , which doesn't really use much GPU as much as it uses the CPU (to calculate the physics and all).
Thanks before
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First of all..it lagged pretty badly while multi-tasking....
Secondly..admit it..SAMOLED just looks SOO better after the VOODOO color fix! (w/o it too!).
Third point Gaming performance and Hummingbird chip=win!
Fourth point XDA Support! We are a family of more than 10 million!!
Pros of SGSl
1. Cheaper! (Big factor of our market (INDIA))
2. Comparable to its big bro i9000 but NOT its replacement
3. Upgradeable to 2.3 like i9000(I hope so..have u guys got GB yet? )
PaulForde said:
Fail on so many behalfs, its amazing how many people will read something and believe it.
Both processors are clocked @ 1GHz, although the hummingbird comes out on top as the best single core processor, do your research.
We have bluetooth 3.0, i9003 has 2.0
Graphics processor we have the SGX540 and the i9003 has the SGX530.
Super AMOLED/+ screens are beautiful to look at, can't get much better really.
Simple, there's a reason why the i9003 is cheaper.
Also, the better battery life on the i9003 is due the the battery being 1650mAh and the i9000 being 1500mAh
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Dude shudnt u be the one doin the research???sgsl has bt 3.0. Just google abt the cpu and u will get to kno which one is better.samoled vs slcd is a matter of personal choice.i m quite sure u hav never seen a sgsl display thats why u r so arrogant in ur remark.cause ppl who has seen both tend to go for the slcd due to usablity issues.excpt for the gpu part sgs is by no means better than sgsl.then again whats the use of such gpu when i m playin all the hd games currently available flawlessly.u may like ur sgs.but that doesnt allow u to flaunt around tryin to disrespect other peoples opinion. the sgs that r available currently are refurbished ones.so ppl who r plannin to go for sgsl,do it.u wont regret,unless u want an awesome gpu without any practical use.
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tanmayrocks said:
seriously i never said i9003 is better than i9000.. both have their pros and cons...it was just a comparision and i never said i9000 was inferior or anything.
(Left pic:i9000, right:i9003
though i dont know if this proves the thing, i was talking more practically rather than specifically)
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Nah, that would be my post they're referring to. Maybe.
Not that I made such general and conclusive statement
adhikarb said:
First of all..it lagged pretty badly while multi-tasking....
Secondly..admit it..SAMOLED just looks SOO better after the VOODOO color fix! (w/o it too!).
Third point Gaming performance and Hummingbird chip=win!
Fourth point XDA Support! We are a family of more than 10 million!!
Pros of SGSl
1. Cheaper! (Big factor of our market (INDIA))
2. Comparable to its big bro i9000 but NOT its replacement
3. Upgradeable to 2.3 like i9000(I hope so..have u guys got GB yet? )
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Hmm.. I can live with subpar screen, also without outstanding gaming capabilities..
The XDA support is something I will *someday* miss, I suppose. I've always wanted to know what Cyanogen is all about
However, between i9000 and i9003, I can't choose i9000, as it's gone extinct here in Indonesia. I was merely using i9000 as a benchmark for i9003's performance, but that's for my own personal purposes and needs
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Oh, where's my manners? Thanks again for ur input!
adhikarb said:
JOKE -.- No offense though! I have seen SL in action..my close friend has it but haha declaring SGSL winner over SGS JOKE!
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I support u on this.
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rdr_m said:
gpu without any practical use.
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U r right but gpu part goes to sgs. Day to day life hd mkv play important role to me. Yes our sgsl can play all available games with good framerate. But I dont think majority of people play graphic intensives games but most of people want atleat a device which can handle unconverted movies on their device. I have invest my 20k in sgsl and not happy with this news.
Otherwise this device Is great buy over sgs.
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Dude just check the two phones side by side and look at the display and it will be easier to decide ;-)
This is so funny.ppl keep braggin abt gamin performance of sgs.seriously dude,just check youtube and see how asphalt 6 runs on sgsl.lol.games are made in a way so that they can run on majority of the devices.they arent sgs or power vr540 exclusive.and its not computer games we are talkin abt here.like i said awesome gpu with no practical use.
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Dude the movie playback issue is due to driver issue.not hardware.just hav patience and wait.sumthin will turn up.then agn it takes only 5 or 6 min extra for kies to convert the files without any loss of quality at all.so dont be so unhappy for that extra 5mins man.
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lol my milestone is better than sgs ...my milestone can be oc upto 1.2ghz and it has a cpu of just 600 mhz and gaming is much better on 480*854 resolution and i have got good battery life in 1400 mhz and both sgsl and milestone having ARM Cortex A8 processor, PowerVR SGX530 and the only diff. is the frequency of cpu
SGS has the better support developer wise. Cyanogen mod etc. end of story.
no app in the android market is gonna take advantage of the Power VR540 gpu.
OMAP is a better processor than hummingbird for heaven's sake, just because of its extensive overclocking capabilities! however on the SGSL, since OMAP cannot be overclocked i guess i'll have to give it to hummingbird.
AMOLED is awesome. period.
battery consumption on SGS is lower, due to AMOLED. hence the 1500mah battery. SGSL sucks battery life wise. SLCD is a battery hog.
conclusion? in the current scheme of things, going for SGSL makes more sense, economically, and maybe one can upgrade to SGS II next year.
I was able to compare the two displays side by side and I must say that while samoled has better contrast and awesome blacks, slcd is sharper. I personally prefer sharpness to deeper black.
Besides, I'll never buy a samoled device because samoled burns so easly... in less than a year you'll have a permanent system bar on the top of the display, and this sucks if you spent 500€.
i don't see why would you put this in the development topic
closed?
I have viewed a loot of benchmarks [ antutu, quadrant, neocore, an3dbenchxl..etc]
And all of those benchmarks the sensation scores are low...
Lower than LGo2X, and similar to a O/C DesireHD...
Is that Normal? THis QSD 8260 it's suposed to be a beast, and the same with the adreno 220... but i can't se the beast.... ( maybe need optimization? )
Ideas?
Idk but its kind of bothering me. I bought this phone on day one thinking it would have the speed of the g2x without the hardware problems, but I really think Sense 3.0 is hindering the performance. Can't wait to get a Rom on here to speed things up :/
On WiFi I can only get 10k down, and 2k up. Lame.
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mpow57 said:
Idk but its kind of bothering me. I bought this phone on day one thinking it would have the speed of the g2x without the hardware problems, but I really think Sense 3.0 is hindering the performance. Can't wait to get a Rom on here to speed things up :/
On WiFi I can only get 10k down, and 2k up. Lame.
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well to me, Sense is working bad... isn't fluid and now i'm with GO Launcher EX wich is more fast and fluid than sense....
Ah, with some games, sometimes lags, and i think it's sense.
we need to wait right now.
sense it only a small part of the problem...
2.3.3 isnt really optomized for our hardware, not to mention that almost ALL benchmark software doesnt fully support our SoC chipset
when we get S-OFF and clean/scrubbed roms, we will be pulling real capabilities from benchmark software, especially with 2.3.4 and 2.4 when available
Solidus_n313 said:
sense it only a small part of the problem...
2.3.3 isnt really optomized for our hardware, not to mention that almost ALL benchmark software doesnt fully support our SoC chipset
when we get S-OFF and clean/scrubbed roms, we will be pulling real capabilities from benchmark software, especially with 2.3.4 and 2.4 when available
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i hope that so....
How about overheatings, and extremly battery drainages? this will be improved to?
I think, adreno220 is more powerfull and newer than Mali400M, and QSD8260 par with Exynos.
So i think, when this phone becomes S-OFF and gets better roms, will beat, or close to the SGSII.
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I think, adreno220 is more powerfull and newer than Mali400M, and QSD8260 par with Exynos.
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this is quite true, but the QSD8260 has a couple more features than the exynos, not to mention single core voltage optimization, where as the SGS2 runs both cores at single voltage...
as for the overheating, at first it will irk you, but it never gets too hot, and considering the hardware in this thing, and its thickness, its to be expected
and as for the battery drain, you can thank the carriers for that bull****, after running temp root and disabling a whole whack of useless apps, i have around 250mb ram constantly, and i got roughly 6-8 extra hrs of battery life
Solidus_n313 said:
this is quite true, but the QSD8260 has a couple more features than the exynos, not to mention single core voltage optimization, where as the SGS2 runs both cores at single voltage...
as for the overheating, at first it will irk you, but it never gets too hot, and considering the hardware in this thing, and its thickness, its to be expected
and as for the battery drain, you can thank the carriers for that bull****, after running temp root and disabling a whole whack of useless apps, i have around 250mb ram constantly, and i got roughly 6-8 extra hrs of battery life
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That is true, the QSD8260 have that feature ( and other new features ), it's good! but Galaxy SII doesnt overheat like sensation.
Maybe my rom from vodafone is fulll of **** ( Sense 3.0 isn't fluid on mine... and is **** compared to another alternative launcher for now... )
About temporal root, is a ****!! we need a full root.
I'm working on HTCCamera.apk ( in part thanks to potato, helped me with indications )
TO get better and decent image/video quality, when the phone becomes full rooted, surely i will release it, and i hope will work very well, but i can't test it because i don't have root.
i agree full root is NECESSARY for anything to be done on this fone, fre3vo reminds me the the HEN hacks for psp back in the day
as for teh htccamer.apk, good on ya! there are some issues with it, my biggest being focus on really close ups
tomeu0000 said:
That is true, the QSD8260 have that feature ( and other new features ), it's good! but Galaxy SII doesnt overheat like sensation.
Maybe my rom from vodafone is fulll of **** ( Sense 3.0 isn't fluid on mine... and is **** compared to another alternative launcher for now... )
About temporal root, is a ****!! we need a full root.
I'm working on HTCCamera.apk ( in part thanks to potato, helped me with indications )
TO get better and decent image/video quality, when the phone becomes full rooted, surely i will release it, and i hope will work very well, but i can't test it because i don't have root.
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Temp root is just a step on the way to full root, it's not like the devs got it temp rooted and said "well ****, I'm glad we got that done, let's move on to the next phone!" I'm sure they put in a lot of hours just to get this far already and are putting in a lot more to get full root, so saying that temp root is **** is pretty ****ed up and disrespectful to all the devs that are working hard to give YOU and all the other ungrateful bastards full root.
Sorry for going off a little there, just frustrating to see people act like nothing is being done and belittling big accomplishments on the path to the final goal.
i agree, its more of a PoC/dev tool than something for average users to use, epecially for setting up androidSDK
superoneclick is nice, but you dont learn anything about how/why its working, and if you dont want to know that stuff, why would you need root in the first place?
6-8 hours battery? wow. I go from 7 am till 7 pm and have 30ish% left almost every day. I came from an EVO 4g which required battery changes twice a day sometimes. i had batteries charging everywhere. I expected the same or worse from the sensation but am proud to be wrong. I have 4 extra batteries for this and an extra charger at home and work, only needed to swap a couple of times in over a month. I wasted money on sensation batteries.. Strange how some have so many battery troubles with this phone and i have had great results with 2 sensations. 250% better than my EVO 4g. After root and custom kernels and roms i may get 2 days use out of this bad boy.. Just hope they can get the other issues straightened out (touch screen issues, which is actually working great right now) so i can really enjoy this thing!
Benchmarks are over rated and not on mobile phone and very inconsistent,my evo 3d and sentation scores the same on quadrant my highest score on shi**y qaudrant is 2450. If I totally relied on benches is wait and get a SG2, but I don't. Like others have said sense 3.0 weights heavily on CPU. You can't have your cake and eat it too. Touchwiz is a very light ui compared to sense. I'm happy with it in real world use.
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@nugzo
i get 6-8hrs more on top of my regular 8-10 hrs, but mind you i use A LOT of data on my phone, and always listening to music...
so realistically, i could get much more out of it, but considering i had the same issue with my HD2 that you had with your EVO, its a world of difference
EDIT: also, nugzo, apparently the latest OTA fixes the touchscreen and GPS problems, if they do happen to you...
Sensation - 'poor' performance
The MAIN reason why the HTC Sensation has lower benchmark scores than other phones in this class is that it has to push 33% more pixels ! It`s screen has a 960x540 resolution; the GS2 for example only pushes 800x480 pixels !
@razvan
another excellent point, i keep forgetting that, qHD is now "normal" for me that it slips my mind
they are low cuz its slow...
mpow57 said:
Idk but its kind of bothering me. I bought this phone on day one thinking it would have the speed of the g2x without the hardware problems, but I really think Sense 3.0 is hindering the performance. Can't wait to get a Rom on here to speed things up :/
On WiFi I can only get 10k down, and 2k up. Lame.
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the funny thing is I kept reading that the quadrant and benchmark apps were not optimized for the sensation. How you have to factor in pixel compression and other things to explain the low scores. After having the phone for almost two weeks, and playing with the Evo 3D - the phone is average to slow (for my expectation) for a dual core device. The scores are consistently low for a reason.
The benchmark apps might not be "optimized" but gx2, gs2 and evo 3d users testify to the speed of their devices. I have seen it up close too. Lag AND my phone crashed last night, unexpectedly, and the tell htc prompt came up. what the hell??
I am keeping the phone, but I am not an apologist. The sensation is lacking (to me) and I should not have to wait for root for me to feel like my phone competes with other phones in its class - speed wise.
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@razvan
another excellent point, i keep forgetting that, qHD is now "normal" for me that it slips my mind
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I see that you are with wind. I am planning to switch to wind when my contract expires i august. just want to know how the signal is with wind mobile compared to rogers?
Sensation only uses one core for the current benchmarks while the other run apps in the background. Use cf-bench for real duel core benchmark.
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tomeu0000 said:
i hope that so....
How about overheatings, and extremly battery drainages? this will be improved to?
I think, adreno220 is more powerfull and newer than Mali400M, and QSD8260 par with Exynos.
So i think, when this phone becomes S-OFF and gets better roms, will beat, or close to the SGSII.
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I have both the SGS2 and HTC Sensation.
One thing I know is that the CPU on the SGS2 is alot better than the QSD8260. The reason is due to different architecture Cortex A8 vs Cortex A9. Also my evidence is from Smartbenchmark2011. SGS2 scores around 3.8k and the Sensation around 2.5k which isn't bad and the screen QHD doesn't lower the benchmark for CPU.
I don't how you guys got Adreno 220 to better than Mali 400MP ?
SGX543MP4 > SGX543MP2 & Mali 400MP > Tegra & Adreno 220 & SGX540 (Although Tegra maybe abit better than both)
The reason why Adreno 220 is on per with Tegra is quadrant 2D and 3D benchmarks. The framerate on the Atrix 4G and the Sensation is about equal and they both use qHD. Which in theory means that the LG Optimus 2X framerate can be said as equal to an Adreno 220 at 800x480 resolution.
Although on Smartbenchmark2011 the Atrix scores alot higher GPU than the Adreno 220.
All these are based on my phone benchmark scores as well as other people posted on youtube to backup.
so nobody with a s-off sensation has loaded a rom on it yet and run a benchmark?
hello
i will buy a new android phone and i don't now which phone i should buy it
Sensation
786 RAM it's a problem ??
1GB for apps it's a problem ??
sensation have nice screen ??
i can overclock sensation to 1.5GHz without problem ??
anything else ?
-juanito- said:
hello
i will buy a new android phone and i don't now which phone i should buy it
Sensation
786 RAM it's a problem ??
1GB for apps it's a problem ??
sensation have nice screen ??
i can overclock sensation to 1.5GHz without problem ??
anything else ?
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I got rid of sense so RAM is not a problem at all. Idk if RAM is an issue with sense running since I took it off the first day.
Have over 70 apps and still plenty of space left
The screen is nice but there are two types one made by sharp and one made by auo. The sharp one is a little sharper but not as vibrant the auo is pretty vibrant but has a little bit of ghosting issues. I have an auo and I'm pretty happy with it.
Currently running at 1.7 with no issues
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which one is better and faster ??
Mali 400 (GS2) vs Adreno 220 (Sensation)
sensation cpu vs gs2 cpu ??
-juanito- said:
which one is better and faster ??
Mali 400 (GS2) vs Adreno 220 (Sensation)
sensation cpu vs gs2 cpu ??
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Supposedly the adreno is more powerful than the mali. Exynos is better than snapdragon though
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aim1126 said:
Supposedly the adreno is more powerful than the mali. Exynos is better than snapdragon though
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Where is the benchmark that says Adreno 220 is more powerful than MALI 400? I really haven't seen one yet.
nraudigy2 said:
Where is the benchmark that says Adreno 220 is more powerful than MALI 400? I really haven't seen one yet.
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Me either. Everyone just keeps saying its better on paper. To bad real world use doesn't take place on a sheet of paper. Bottom line. Samsung is on fire right now and nobody can put them out. Its hard to deny that they know how to optimize their devices and create good drivers along with having super fast NAND memory and insane display panels. Oh and lets not forget. Engadget gave the GSII the award of having the second best camera in history only trailing the N95.
People can hate on Samsung all they want but their is a reason why they sell a **** ton of Android devices. All the Samsung haters can sit back and watch the GSII break the sales records for Android devices to date.
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Might be getting a gs2. Though, not saying the sensation is a bad phone. In fact I love my phone.
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I feel like the sensation is built better than the SG2. It feels a bit more solid in my opinion. The screen is sort of a toss up, the Samsung's does have better colors and stuff but the Sensations's has a better resolution.
The SG2 will probably have better performance in its unmodified state than a sensation, because of the lower resolution and the Exynos chip.
Personally, I would have preferred the SG2, but I ended up getting the Sensation just because the SG2 hasn't been officially released in the US yet. I ended up paying just under $400 for a new sensation without contract while the absolute cheapest I could find a SG2 for was $650 plus tax.
i will buy htc Sensation and i will installing custom rom but first what i should do ?? unlock bootloader from htc or what ?
SGS2 is ugly, cheap made and Touchwiz is horrible. The Sensation feels better built and Sense 3 is fantastic. RAM is NOT a problem. The higher resolution screen is beautiful.
Personally I used http://revolutionary.io/ S-off to unlock the phone.
If you use the HTC unlocked bootloader, you are basically telling HTC you have voided your warranty. But with http://revolutionary.io/, it can be revered and HTC won't know about it.
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SGS2 is ugly, cheap made and Touchwiz is horrible. The Sensation feels better built and Sense 3 is fantastic. RAM is NOT a problem. The higher resolution screen is beautiful.
Personally I used http://revolutionary.io/ S-off to unlock the phone.
If you use the HTC unlocked bootloader, you are basically telling HTC you have voided your warranty. But with http://revolutionary.io/, it can be revered and HTC won't know about it.
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I've heard this from a lot of people, I came from a Galaxy S, and prefered TouchWiz to Sense, many great features over it imo (not the launcher or widgets, actual apps.. contacts, dialer, calculator, email, etc). I find my self craving AOSP apps with the sensation.. and absolutely hated any rom with aosp apps on the Galaxy. Sense 3.0 feels clunky and less refined.
Just my .02
Comparing hardware, HTC feels better. But the Galaxy was super lightweight, and super thin and ergonomically better imo (side power/lock button) but has a 'cheap' feel to it (because made super light and thin), but was very sturdy. Super Amoled screen looked good, but qHD beats it imo (extra real estate makes up for any lack of prettiness and then some). The camera on the samsung was superb and will really miss it. And comparing phone speed, as long as the UI is smooth and its quick opening apps, its fine. I'm not transcoding movies or anything crazy like that or running crazy intense graphics so every last drop of score in a benchmark is pointless to me.
Galaxy s 2 I wish I got one.
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Well I had Galaxy S2 and at the moment have a sensation. While I had s2 I had 2 issues. Yellowish left side screen only noticeable até gray background and pink spot on photos and i replaced the unit, got rid of yellowish and almost gone pink spot but then had hd video recording frame rate drop at low light conditions... Well i thought, I payed 500 euro for this? So traded with sensation and this is the real thing that happened, even with the new 2.3.4 super fast ROM it doesn't compare with the speed of s2 but ok, is fast enough... Had touch screen issues already not responding to my command and having force closes with everyday apps and even now phone reboots itself when trying to play a game... Also phone calls sound thin and low volume, having a little distortion, audio recording also too thin. Already asked for a replace going back to S2 and pink spot and video problems since the rest just feels quick and perfect...
BUT I love sense, if anyone depends on it, don't go wrong, sensation and sense 3.0 is just so easy and complete, beautiful and with new update 2.3.4 no lag at all! I hope I had HTC build, responsiveness and speed of Samsung and sense... About the screen at the beginning I thought samoled+ was way better but now I think is a matter of taste and what we get used to...
Hope it helps
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type in "sensation review videos" and/or "galaxy s 2 review videos"
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I'll just go ahead and say it like a douche--do your part and read the damn reviews. This same question gets asked day after day, and there are tons of review articles/videos done by the professionals.
Would you let your friends decide for you what car to buy? Or would you rather do your due diligence, perform your own research, and make your own decision?
I can't definitely say since I've never used a SGS2, but I would have gone with it if it was available in the US at the same time the Sensation came out. I don't get why a lot of Sensation owners like to hate on it. It's made out of plastic? OK. Tons of electronics these days are made out of plastic (just taking a 270 degree visual sweep of my room I spot a primarily plastic TV, a primarily plastic Xbox 360 with plastic controllers and network adapter, a plastic multi-effects pedal for my guitar, and a plastic alarm clock). It bothers me when people make it like plastic build quality is such a big deal, especially when it's in fact better for reception and consequently makes the phone better at its purpose. It's even worse when I see people moan about plastic build quality and then later I see them posting in the accessories section about the best cases. If you put cases on your phones why would you give a care about the build material? You don't feel or see it when it's in a case.
There are only a few things that I think the Sensation definitely does better, and those are screen resolution, UI, and build quality. The screen resolution isn't that big an advantage because the SGS2 counters it with better brightness and more vivid colors, the UI isn't that big an advantage because Sense was inherently finished poorly for the Sensation (lag city), and the build quality isn't that big an advantage because it has the negative side effects of the deathgrip and reception problems (and let's face the fact that "unibody" was a joke all along). The SGS2 outspecs and outdoes the Sensation imo in most areas. Easily the better processor, RAM, internal memory by a long shot, camera, overall performance, battery life, speaker by a long shot, etc.
Just my .02. The Sensation is still a good phone and I'll be keeping it till at least the end of the year, but I'm mildly disappointed with it. It's not that I regret it, because as a TMOUS guy it was the best option available to me at the time.
I'd choose sgs2 or g2x, I only keep my sensation for netflix
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I'd choose sgs2 or g2x, I only keep my sensation for netflix
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I hope you realize you don't actually need any specific model to use the Netflix app.
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Where is the benchmark that says Adreno 220 is more powerful than MALI 400? I really haven't seen one yet.
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Hence why I said supposedly lol
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tissimo said:
I've heard this from a lot of people, I came from a Galaxy S, and prefered TouchWiz to Sense, many great features over it imo (not the launcher or widgets, actual apps.. contacts, dialer, calculator, email, etc). I find my self craving AOSP apps with the sensation.. and absolutely hated any rom with aosp apps on the Galaxy. Sense 3.0 feels clunky and less refined.
Just my .02
Comparing hardware, HTC feels better. But the Galaxy was super lightweight, and super thin and ergonomically better imo (side power/lock button) but has a 'cheap' feel to it (because made super light and thin), but was very sturdy. Super Amoled screen looked good, but qHD beats it imo (extra real estate makes up for any lack of prettiness and then some). The camera on the samsung was superb and will really miss it. And comparing phone speed, as long as the UI is smooth and its quick opening apps, its fine. I'm not transcoding movies or anything crazy like that or running crazy intense graphics so every last drop of score in a benchmark is pointless to me.
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Same here. I actually love Touch Wiz. It looks exactly like any of the launchers most of the people here put on their phone. Its a lot closer to vanila Android than Sense is and its also a lot less laggy. The Samsung clients such as email, messages and contacts not only look better but they function better as well. I love how you can swipe on a contact to initiate a message or phone call. Touch Wiz also has better Facebook and Twitter integration. The only thing I think Sense does better is widgets but I don't use them anyway.
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Yea I chose Sensation because it had a nice screen. Hercules is gonna be a beast when it debuts tho. I always see the S2 win at speed tests, but frankly, I don't care.
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Hi guys, i really need your help.. I am planning to get a new dual core cellphone but i am confused between o2x and o3d.. I wanna go in favour of o3d, but the reviews say that battery back up is really bad. Is it really that bad? whats the maximum battery backup i would get in moderate usage? And also I am a gamer and will b hoping to do a lot of gamin in ma cell.. soplease suggest me which one i should go for.
I would buy a P920 . Battery 2-3 days with medium usage, 1 day with high usage .
P920 had bigger screen and 3d features (3d games, movies, photos). Most of games are avilable for Optimus 3d, only some not working( real tegra games). Performance is very high.
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Hi guys, i really need your help.. I am planning to get a new dual core cellphone but i am confused between o2x and o3d.. I wanna go in favour of o3d, but the reviews say that battery back up is really bad. Is it really that bad? whats the maximum battery backup i would get in moderate usage? And also I am a gamer and will b hoping to do a lot of gamin in ma cell.. soplease suggest me which one i should go for.
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Don't get LG trust me you will regret it believe me i am a mobile phone fanatic i have so many but i had high hopes for the O3D but trust me i will never buy a LG again...
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I would buy a P920 . Battery 2-3 days with medium usage, 1 day with high usage .
P920 had bigger screen and 3d features (3d games, movies, photos). Most of games are avilable for Optimus 3d, only some not working( real tegra games). Performance is very high.
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Tnks for the reply..
you sure o3d Will last a day? but i hear people sayin it wont even last 4 to 5 hrs?
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Don't get LG trust me you will regret it believe me i am a mobile phone fanatic i have so many but i had high hopes for the O3D but trust me i will never buy a LG again...
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oh so you do own a o3d? plz share ur reviews. Howz battery back up? is it the software you hate or is it the mobile itself?
thanks for ur reply.
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oh so you do own a o3d? plz share ur reviews. Howz battery back up? is it the software you hate or is it the mobile itself?
thanks for ur reply.
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It's great very fast and relatively stable. Battery sucks though (Like most smartphones) If you play a game in about 2 Hours the battery is down to 20% (Real Racing 2)
Software is nice, it plays 720p Video without a problem (Havent tried FUll HD, but Im sure it will work great) The 3D is suprisingly cool, especialy to impress your friends. Menus and Widgeds are above average and offer a good experience in my opinion.
Hardware is where it shines the Ti OMAP CPU and 512MB RAM coupled with a PowerVR Video Accelerator, make it a beast. The screen is very good also, extremely sensetive and bright, great for multimedia.
I would reccomend it any day (If you get it for the right price)
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It's great very fast and relatively stable. Battery sucks though (Like most smartphones) If you play a game in about 2 Hours the battery is down to 20% (Real Racing 2)
Software is nice, it plays 720p Video without a problem (Havent tried FUll HD, but Im sure it will work great) The 3D is suprisingly cool, especialy to impress your friends. Menus and Widgeds are above average and offer a good experience in my opinion.
Hardware is where it shines the Ti OMAP CPU and 512MB RAM coupled with a PowerVR Video Accelerator, make it a beast. The screen is very good also, extremely sensetive and bright, great for multimedia.
I would reccomend it any day (If you get it for the right price)
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oh Tnks. am gettin it for a new box packed phone with bill for 25k.. i.e $500, should i go for it.
and one more thing, is the ginger bread update out yet? and can it play normal 2d videos in 3d?
Hey mate don't buy LG p920 3D phone or any lg phone for that matter just to many problems 2.3 updates make it even worse the battery life is crap I brought the bigger 3300mah one and it still sucks bro im gonna get the Samsung S2 galaxy at least its got the 2.3 update with ice cream update coming out soon so that's the one to go for,cheers
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Hi guys, i really need your help.. I am planning to get a new dual core cellphone but i am confused between o2x and o3d.. I wanna go in favour of o3d, but the reviews say that battery back up is really bad. Is it really that bad? whats the maximum battery backup i would get in moderate usage? And also I am a gamer and will b hoping to do a lot of gamin in ma cell.. soplease suggest me which one i should go for.
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I'm not too sure about the O2x, but on O3D GB, i get around
250 hours 2G standby time(3% per night)
Really long Music playback (Better than any other device I've used)
3.5-5 hours video playback on minumum brightness(Normal 350mb/40min quality)
2.5 hours video playback on Maximum brightness
2-3 hours Wifi web browsing W/Opera mini (IDK about stock)
2-3 hours Light gaming (2D Games, such as Angry birds, etc)
1-2 hours graphically intensive gaming (Such as GTA, or any game converted into 3D. Most drain battery extremely quickly and cause the phone to heat up quite a bit)
The Optimus 3D also seems to have a glitchy touchscreen. Its probably not the best phone to game with.
Speed wise, The TI 4430 should be faster than the Tegra 2, but most games are optimized for tegra 2 since its a pretty common chipset.
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I'm not too sure about the O2x, but on O3D GB, i get around
250 hours 2G standby time(3% per night)
Really long Music playback (Better than any other device I've used)
3.5-5 hours video playback on minumum brightness(Normal 350mb/40min quality)
2.5 hours video playback on Maximum brightness
2-3 hours Wifi web browsing W/Opera mini (IDK about stock)
2-3 hours Light gaming (2D Games, such as Angry birds, etc)
1-2 hours graphically intensive gaming (Such as GTA, or any game converted into 3D. Most drain battery extremely quickly and cause the phone to heat up quite a bit)
The Optimus 3D also seems to have a glitchy touchscreen. Its probably not the best phone to game with.
Speed wise, The TI 4430 should be faster than the Tegra 2, but most games are optimized for tegra 2 since its a pretty common chipset.
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Buddy, the stats u've provided is exclusively for o3d only or evn other dual core phones perform in the same range?
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Buddy, the stats u've provided is exclusively for o3d only or evn other dual core phones perform in the same range?
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For the O3D.
I'm not too sure why Gaming drains so much more battery than playing videos... Gaming only uses slightly more battery compared to playing videos on my Desire HD (Single core though), while the screen pretty much consumes most of the battery.
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oh Tnks. am gettin it for a new box packed phone with bill for 25k.. i.e $500, should i go for it.
and one more thing, is the ginger bread update out yet? and can it play normal 2d videos in 3d?
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can't you just get it from amazon??i got mine from this seller(http://www.amazon.com/gp/browse.html?ie=UTF8&marketplaceID=ATVPDKIKX0DER&me=A3TBDBTCHAVT15) for 375$...new in box and European...not usa version....there was even an hdmi cable with it...
cuz if you are willing to pay 500$..go for galaxy SII...
.this phone IS VERY good(i mean amazing specs with a 375$ price is awesome!)...but if you are not 3D freak...and willing to pay 500+few extra bucks...go for galaxy SII
oh and gingerbread is out...have some problems but usable....and you can add 3d effect to 2d movies....but its kinda hit and mess....not very good...3d effect on 2d games is better.....
on a side note...Atrix 4g is even cheaper than 375$ and its excellent for the price...its better than optimus 2X and have some very good specs(Dual core,1GB ram,16GB built-in memory,good community support.HDMI,qHD Res)
but of course minus 0.3 inch from the screen size and 3D
I've an sgs2 and o3d, my wife o2x...
SGS2 is the best choice, look at sgs2 forum, there are at least 50 rom's that u can pick up and try, a lot of kernels, speedmod is one of the best IMHO, I have 3-4 days of battery with 2 k9 accounts, plus gmail, lot of widget. Of course my screen is on only for 1 hour browsing per day, some calls and messages.
SGS2 all the life!
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can't you just get it from amazon??i got mine from this seller(http://www.amazon.com/gp/browse.html?ie=UTF8&marketplaceID=ATVPDKIKX0DER&me=A3TBDBTCHAVT15) for 375$...new in box and European...not usa version....there was even an hdmi cable with it...
cuz if you are willing to pay 500$..go for galaxy SII...
.this phone IS VERY good(i mean amazing specs with a 375$ price is awesome!)...but if you are not 3D freak...and willing to pay 500+few extra bucks...go for galaxy SII
oh and gingerbread is out...have some problems but usable....and you can add 3d effect to 2d movies....but its kinda hit and mess....not very good...3d effect on 2d games is better.....
on a side note...Atrix 4g is even cheaper than 375$ and its excellent for the price...its better than optimus 2X and have some very good specs(Dual core,1GB ram,16GB built-in memory,good community support.HDMI,qHD Res)
but of course minus 0.3 inch from the screen size and 3D
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Id love to go for S2.. but here it costs around $620(Rs 31000) and buyin from amazon? let me think abt it.. cos it depends on customs fee also... will calculate and decide..
And guys also tel me, will der b a diff b/w unlocked thrill 4g & stock o3d? thrill 4g comes for around $440 here.. is it ok if i go wid thrill 4g? how abt gb and ics update for 4g? heard that its not recieved GB yet, and wont b getting ICS?
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Hi guys, i really need your help.. I am planning to get a new dual core cellphone but i am confused between o2x and o3d.. I wanna go in favour of o3d, but the reviews say that battery back up is really bad. Is it really that bad? whats the maximum battery backup i would get in moderate usage? And also I am a gamer and will b hoping to do a lot of gamin in ma cell.. soplease suggest me which one i should go for.
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I would also go for O2D because it has better GPU, Power Vrx which works on 300Mhtz. I get usually 1,5 days on normal usage. When I play games as MOdern combat 3 and real racing 2 battery is empty after 2 h.
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And guys also tel me, will der b a diff b/w unlocked thrill 4g & stock o3d? thrill 4g comes for around $440 here.. is it ok if i go wid thrill 4g? how abt gb and ics update for 4g? heard that its not recieved GB yet, and wont b getting ICS?
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The Thrill 4g doesn't have an GB Update or ROM yet. IDK if it will get ICS or not. Thrill 4g is 4g though.