Is there any practical difference between the two or are they just rebranded versions of each other?
I'm sitting with my LG Thrill 4G right now and am looking to get some sort of root happening so I can manage this battery life..
pretty sure it's just branding but don't quote me on that.
All tech sites list them as the same so don't think there is any real difference.
If they are identical does that mean that the Optimus has a 4G radio?
fazzy360 said:
If they are identical does that mean that the Optimus has a 4G radio?
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AFAIK neither the O3D or the Thrill has true 4G radio, as I understand it it's just that some updated 3G stuff are OK to call 4G because of the upgrade even though it's not really 4G.
As I remember AT&T and some other network had a case before the review board that decides what is what because their ads said 4G but it's really not, but because of the speed upgrade they where doing etc it was decided that it could be called 4G.
I might be totally wrong and the Thrill 4G really has a 4G radio but I don't think so, I think most of the 4G phones are actually 3GPP LTE.
LG.com on Thrill said:
Frequency
Quad-band GSM/GPRS/EDGE; 850/900/1800/1900 MHz; Tri-band UMTS/HSPA+; 850/1900/2100 MHz
DataTransmission
HSDPA 14.4 Mbps, HSUPA 5.7 Mbps
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Looks just like the O3D so unless the Thrill 4G for AT&T is a one of a kind AT&T specific phone that no other carrier can have then the 4G is marketing and nothing else.
CASE AND POINT
http://www.motherboard.tv/2011/1/7/...etwork-proves-4g-doesn-t-really-mean-anything
Hi guys, so this is my first post and i do not want to be such a noob but i certainly know this is a stupid question.... anyways i'm from costa rica new in the android world of this amazing lg optimus 3d phone, unfortunately here our carrier only work 3g on 850 mhz, i think this phone only comes in 900, as i read this is something with the hardware?? or not, is there a possible way to flash it to get 850 ? hey thank anyone who can helps !
Bands are hardware, you can't flash new ones in software.
The Thrill 4G (US Optimus 3D) supports 3G 850 Mhz bands so if buy that one and get it unlocked, you will be good to go.
You could also get the Rogers Optimus 3D because it also supports 3G 850 Mhz.
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Hi guys, so this is my first post and i do not want to be such a noob but i certainly know this is a stupid question.... anyways i'm from costa rica new in the android world of this amazing lg optimus 3d phone, unfortunately here our carrier only work 3g on 850 mhz, i think this phone only comes in 900, as i read this is something with the hardware?? or not, is there a possible way to flash it to get 850 ? hey thank anyone who can helps !
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Khristoff,
I don't know if it will help you, but my Optimus 3D (P920H) from Claro Brazil works with 850mhz on HSDPA. I know that "Killer Bee" said about "Bands are hardware", but with my old android phone (Motorola Dext/CliQ) depending the firmware you use, you can add or lost some frequences.
here on XDA Delevopers have 2 posts about the firmwares and how to apply.
Firmwares
How to Flash
Best Regards
Hyuuga_br
Oi! Hyuuga_br
Obrigado pela ajuda! Do you know if any of those FW include 850Mhz?
I read that Thrill and Optimus has the same HW, Am I wrong ? that means they should support same things... is there a way to put like a thrill FW on a optimus ( I am just telling what is in my mind you are the experts)
Specifications are different for the Thrill and the Optimus, but I wouldn't know if that's hardware of just firmware related:
Thrill 4G:
GSM: 850, 900, 1800, 1900
UMTS (3G): 850, 1900
Optimus 3D:
GSM: 850, 900, 1800, 1900
UMTS (3G): 900, 1900, 2100
Hey folks thanks a lot, looks like there are other carriers coming to my country that will use 900 MHZ so I think I will have to wait for them to use 3g heheheh thank you all for your responses!
what's the difference b/w P920 and P920G ? is there any radio difference ? I own a P925g here in India and carrier frequency is 900mhz/1800mhz. the phone does not identify my network.
By any chance now that GB is leaked and we can modify the Baseband's is there a way to modify the p920 BB to get 850 ? Just asking ...
if someone give me a hand I will probably work on it (if is possible)
Good Afternoon!
After looking at the frequencies above this may be why I was having difficulies registering on the network here in Ontario, Canada after flashing the Gingerbread baseband.
I too am interested in your question!
Thanks, Audi2Audi.
just a question, if someone can help, I has been reading all the afternoon and looks like P920H (LATAM version) have BB 850 GHz, and this is a supposition:
on this link :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1331814
Crime_of_heart is adding the GB baseband after installing the ROM using this guide:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1244490
looks like he stucked @ 22% but it works....
so what if I try to mood the stock P920 with the V10k ROM and using this method I do change the BB to p920H
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=19182870
Any Ideas?
I will give it a try and let you know how it goes, hope dnt brick my phone jajaja lol
I try to install Thriller ROM with no success in signal and it crashes, hehe I will have to check some of the p920h stuff to move on
Telstra 850MHz UMTS(WCDMA-3G) baseband for LG Optimus 3D
Has anyone had any success using baseband from more Telstra (850MHz) capatible LG mobile, and sqeezing it somehow into an Optimus 3D...
Great handset, but the reception on Telstra is damn frustrating..
Cheers,
Michael
Im planning to buy either one of this phone but something is confusing me about the 3G. I dont have a 4g plan only 3g. Will there be a difference in speed if i use 3g for both phone?
I copied this from gsm arena. This confuses me???
G2x HSDPA, 21 Mbps; HSUPA
Optimus 2x HSDPA, 7.2 Mbps; HSUPA, 5.76 Mbps
G2X is for USA T-Mobile bands 4g/3g, edge as well. The optimus 2X is for European bands on DT
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It depends on where you are going to be using the phone. The 2X (P990) baseband chip is slower than the G2X's (P999) baseband chip. Having said that you need to buy the phone based on where you plan to use it. The P999 only works on 1700 and 2100Mhz 3/4G networks. The P990 works on 900, 1900 and 2100Mhz 3G networks. Be careful as there are some P999s marketed as 2X, such as in Canada by Wind Mobile. G2X is a proprietary T-Mobile name and only they can use it. So you should think in terms of P990 and P999, not 2X and G2X.
I was reading somewhere that tmobile's 4g is the same speed as wind's 3g
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I was reading somewhere that tmobile's 4g is the same speed as wind's 3g
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T-Mobile doesn't have true 4G. They have HSDPA+ which can get speeds up to 42Mbps but you never see these speeds in real life. The modem in the P999 (G2X) has a max download capability of 21Mbps. There is no definition of 4G so carriers like T-Mobile can call anything they want as 4G as a marketing ploy. Here in Thailand we have 42Mpbs speeds now but nobody has the balls to call it 4G. For example, TOT3G calls it 3.9G. So yes, it is very possible that T-Mobile's 4G is the same as Wind's 3G if Wind is running HSDPA+, which most carriers have deployed by now.
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It depends on where you are going to be using the phone. The 2X (P990) baseband chip is slower than the G2X's (P999) baseband chip. Having said that you need to buy the phone based on where you plan to use it. The P999 only works on 1700 and 2100Mhz 3/4G networks. The P990 works on 900, 1900 and 2100Mhz 3G networks.
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I'm in the USA. What coverage can I get with my G2X (P999) in Europe?
And does the suffix make a difference? Mine comes up as an LG-P999bn.
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I'm in the USA. What coverage can I get with my G2X (P999) in Europe?
And does the suffix make a difference? Mine comes up as an LG-P999bn.
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Almost all of Europe uses 2100Mhz so you are better off with a P999 (G2X) because it has a faster 3G radio (21Mbps) as compared to a P990 (7.2Mbps). Both phones will work in Europe on almost all (if not all) 3G systems.
"BN" is a new one. Haven't heard of that one before. Most of the suffixes don't mean much. They designate hardware revisions or refurb units. Other known suffixes are DW, DWU, DWDP and WA. You sure it is "BN?" The LG Updater doesn't show that suffix as supported as of yet. Probably because yours came with the latest v21e rom so there is nothing for the updater to updater yet on yours.
I'm annoyed that I can't get reception on my phone because there is no baseband compatible with any gingerbread roms in Canada. Bell uses the 850 and 1900mhz bands for umts and the gingerbread bands available don't support one of those frequencies (I'm guessing 850). Any ideas where I could start looking for basebands that may work with gingerbread in Canada?
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well im new to android i moved from blackberry a couple days ago
anyway i have a problem i cant get my phone to move from 2g to 3g,its the at&t version and im currently on the digicel jamaica carrier
iv went into mobile networks but there is no option to change so i tried dialing *#*#4636#*#* as i saw on the forums but i didnt get any popup or anything
im running stock android 4.0.4 and my phone is rooted and unlocked..any suggestion ?
the att modem won't let you change the frequencies. Keep reading about the bell modems it looks like you need 900mhz umts/hsda but the att modem won't use that frequency for anything about edge. I think the bell modem opens up 900(not sure about the T989 as I don't think t-mobile uses 900 for umts).
The frequency bands are fine (digicell uses 850 & 1900 bands for 3G, just like AT&T). There's a lot of confusing info on the net, most of it because GSM and UMTS (3G) frequencies are different and people get confused.
You need the correct APNs entered to go 3G.