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[Q] Brand new to WP7

I just got my WP7 phone, an Arrive - it "arrrived" yesterday - and I'm about to take the plunge into Windows Phone 7 development. I have previously developed on PPC4, WM5, and WM6, but this is all new...
I'm about to register on the marketplace as a dev, and if I understand correctly, I will then unlock my phone so I can sideload apps from VS2010.
If I've read right, the Chevron unlock doesn't work with the Arrive, but I'm wondering if unlocking it by registering as a dev means I can still sideload the apps for tethering?
Yeah, probably a noob question, but I just want to make sure I don't end up screwing up my phone.
Thanks!

Yeah man if you get the official unlock you'll be able to install any sideloading apps you want!

Thanks. That's what I thought...
Now if I could ever get anything to go right with this whole deal. Now I'm waiting on GeoTrust to verify that I am who I say I am before I can get my account finished, and the Windows Phone Developer Unlocker tool in VS won't connect to my phone, even though Zune is working with it just fine. Ugh.

Yeah, until your account is verified the developer unlock tool won't work. Also note that while VS may send you to Zune to do the unlock, this is incorrect: installing teh WP7 dev tools placed an app on your PC called "Windows Phone Developer Registration" and it is this app that you will need to use for the unlock.

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[Q] dreamspark.com

If eligible, does a person signing up for this program recieve whatever is necessary to developer unlock a functioning handset (Focus)? I see that you can download the emulator...

You will indeed, when you sign up you are required to submit an application to Microsoft, they will also get a company called GeoTrust to run some checks on you and once approved they will enable your Windows Live ID developer status and therefore able to use to unlock tool on your phone.

The process is rather innocuous. You DEFINITELY need to submit a dummy app to get passed the first step. It will take roughly a week but maybe sooner.

thealanshow said:
The process is rather innocuous. You DEFINITELY need to submit a dummy app to get passed the first step. It will take roughly a week but maybe sooner.
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seconded to this
it took me about 2 days to get dev access but I didn't get a confirmation email just plugged in my focus phone registration bam done

So, not to beat a dead horse... Once you're approved for the dreamspark program (I just got approved and now have access), you can download all this wonderful design software. At this point, you have to submit a new app in order to get the phone developer-unlocked?

Si, con queso. You summed it up perfectly.

Crap.... I guess I'm going to have to figure out how to make an app. This could take a while...

Just use FollowMyFeed to create some site-specific news app. These are guaranteed to get approved. You don't have to actually publish it.
Failing that, just use Chevron until you get approved. Either way, the only thing you're achieving is the changing of a single bit in the registry from a 0 to a 1. Unofficial developer unlocks work just as well as official ones!

Yeah, the problem is that I used Chevron to un-brand the phone (AT&T) so that I could force the NoDo update.
Obviously I didn't do the research into how to keep the phone unlocked post NoDo. It's a total failure on my part... The torturous part is that I saw the potential benifits of having a developer unlocked handset while I was in the process of forcing the update.

I love how my LG phone has a built in registry editor. So you don't need to do any hacks to modify the registry. You can just use the built in software to do the developer unlock, and off you go
So... there's no way of 'jailbreaking' Samsung phones anymore?
I still think you should check out FollowMyFeed. Spend 5 minutes making an app with that, and you'll be approved in no time at all.

Yeah, microsoft closed the Chevron "code error" with NoDo.
I checked out Followmyfeed. Does it produce an .xap when done?
I'm still loading the devopler software on my computer. I'm assuming there will be some sort of provision to upload the .xap for approval?

If you're going to go through the effort of submitting a dummy app just to unlock your device, why not just pay the $99 App Hub membership fee, submit two apps, and then get your $99 refunded back to you?

I didn't know that was an option... I'm learning. Getting suggestions is why I started this thread.

@ft55555: I havne't heard of anybody getting reimbursed, but even assuming that was possible...
No reason to go that route if you can use Dreamspark, it gives you the same unlock ability without the money.
Canceling your dev account will re-lock your phone.

I went ahead and submitted an app I created on followmyfeed. Looks like I'm just waiting for the identity verification from Geo Trust. We'll see how it goes.

Works
This method worked for me in just a few hours! Verification was relatively quick and painless, but I did have to use followmyfeed to create an app and submit it. It does not even have to work, but you have to go through the pain of creating artwork for the app and everything also.

Yeah, this method does work. It only took about 3 hours for approval once subbmitted. I did go and make an app with followmyfeed but the longest part of that was just selecting and propperly formatting the artwork (I just saved some pics from online and then formatted them to propper size with Photoshop).
I got the approval to developer unlock my focus within about three hours, and the rest is history.

ft55555 said:
If you're going to go through the effort of submitting a dummy app just to unlock your device, why not just pay the $99 App Hub membership fee, submit two apps, and then get your $99 refunded back to you?
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Or, if you are a student(/Microsoft Student Insider) like me, you can get your device developer-unlocked via dreamspark (you just need to find your school on the site to get verified) and pay $0 the whole time. As far as I know, you can keep the dreamspark status for as long as you're in school, possibly be able to keep it after graduating (but I haven't gotten to that point yet).

ok I have been able to set up dreamspark and download the windows phone package. I then made an app with followmyfeed. now how do you send it to Microsoft to get you phone unlocked please? (do you need to pay 99 bucks??)
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Ahhhh I hate Microsoft, Can't even do this in my country. WHYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY

[Q] Chevron WP7 Unlock and official Developer Unlock: do they work together?

Hello, I have the last Windows Phone 7.5 Mango version on my HTC HD7 (without internet sharing but with hidden wifi support) and now it's unlocked with Chevron WP7 Unlocker (I unlocked it starting from the first build, then upgrading to NoDo and at the end to Mango) and it's now percfectly unlocked. I'm a student and I'm going to register me at the Microsoft App Hub via Dreamspark. My question is if after that, I can deploy an infinity number of app yet (like I can do now with Chevron Unlock) or if my apps max will be 10. (If this, how can I remove this limit?)
Sorry for my English but it's not my mother language.

Androyx96 said:
Hello, I have the last Windows Phone 7.5 Mango version on my HTC HD7 (without internet sharing but with hidden wifi support) and now it's unlocked with Chevron WP7 Unlocker (I unlocked it starting from the first build, then upgrading to NoDo and at the end to Mango) and it's now percfectly unlocked. I'm a student and I'm going to register me at the Microsoft App Hub via Dreamspark. My question is if after that, I can deploy an infinity number of app yet (like I can do now with Chevron Unlock) or if my apps max will be 10. (If this, how can I remove this limit?)
Sorry for my English but it's not my mother language.
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For time being the limit is 10.If you are on dreamspark you can only have 3 apps right?Wait till someone able to to use interop-unlock for htc device then we can have more than 10 apps.You can go to other thread regarding htc interop-unlock.

But when someone will be able to use interop-unlock for my HTC, I can use my developer account AND install more than the limit of apps? (together)

uhm the interop-unlock is automatically made by the WP Core when you are allowed to install more than 300 apps. If you unlocked your Phone with Chevron there is no Need for you to reunlock it with the official tool

Thanks for the answer, I didn't know this thing about interop-unlock. So now that I have Chevron unlock with infinity apss and Mango update, if I register to Microsoft App Hub, will change something about my current Chevron unlock with infinity number of apps? Or this limit will be removed by my official developer account?
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No You cannot use the Chevron unlocked phone with Microsoft App Hub and Vice versa. If you have it unlocked via Chevron and want to use it with App Hub you need to contact them and get your phone remove from the list and vice versa
Chevron Uses an Official Method to unlock your phone but it is cheaper as MS does not give you access to Resources and does not allow you to upload files to Marketplace.
Check the FAQ

The Apps that you deploy are not linked to the account at all. You can develop 20 applications with any official unlock account (Student or normal) but you can only deploy the amount of apps the account is designed to. OEMs are officially interop unlocked and so they are able to use System dlls in their apps.
so short version: you can have an interop unlocked device based on any unlock (Chevron wp7, Chevron labs, Student unlock, developer unlock) and still get your apps into the marketplace (dozens of them but i think there is a Limit of 10 apps per week so you don't flood the marketplace with spam apps)

Thanks a lot for the answers. So in my case can I register at App Hub with a different Windows Live ID than my Phone WL ID, keeping my phone Chevron unlocked?
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So I stumbled on this thread via Google but I still don't understand anything. I currently have a student unlock. This lets me deploy 3 apps to the phone at a time. Will using ChevronWP7 Labs allow me to deploy more than that or no?

DrederickTatum said:
So I stumbled on this thread via Google but I still don't understand anything. I currently have a student unlock. This lets me deploy 3 apps to the phone at a time. Will using ChevronWP7 Labs allow me to deploy more than that or no?
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with chevronwp7 unlock you can only use max 10 apps only but you need to deactivate your student account as in the above post.

I also just came across this thread. But it's confusing me
I have a student developer unlocked device....how many apps can I sideload onto my phone?

How many apps can a student developer account unlocked phone side load?

Ttblondey said:
with chevronwp7 unlock you can only use max 10 apps only but you need to deactivate your student account as in the above post.
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Okay so with Chevron I can do 10 apps instead of 3. And I assume by "deactivate" you mean just delete my phone from my device list on App Hub. That shouldn't be an issue as far as App Hub because I used to submit apps before I even had a phone. I guess the real question is, can I build and test apps to the phone with a Chevron unlock the same way I did with my student unlock?

Androyx96 said:
Hello, I have the last Windows Phone 7.5 Mango version on my HTC HD7 (without internet sharing but with hidden wifi support) and now it's unlocked with Chevron WP7 Unlocker (I unlocked it starting from the first build, then upgrading to NoDo and at the end to Mango) and it's now percfectly unlocked. I'm a student and I'm going to register me at the Microsoft App Hub via Dreamspark. My question is if after that, I can deploy an infinity number of app yet (like I can do now with Chevron Unlock) or if my apps max will be 10. (If this, how can I remove this limit?)
Sorry for my English but it's not my mother language.
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with dreamspark unlock you have 10 app limit but you can remove this limit by Introp Unlock

sha.cr7rmu said:
with dreamspark unlock you have 10 app limit but you can remove this limit by Introp Unlock
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It's actually 3 with dreamspark. What's the difference between Introp Unlock and Chevron?

What's the difference between Introp Unlock and Chevron?

[Q] Will an unlocked phone stay unlocked?

I have an LG Quantum running Mango that is developer-unlocked.
I'm a student developer (signed up with an .edu account), which means I'm still on my free year. Once that free year expires, will my phone remain unlocked?
If not, can I use this tutorial to keep it unlocked? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=974874
Thanks,
David

The phone will automatically re-lock once your AppHub account expires (although, if you're still a student at that point, I believe you can renew for free).
However, there's really no reason to limit yourself to the AppHub account. That tutorial you linked will work just fine, but it's missing one more value that you should set: MaxUnsignedApp (under the same registry key). This value controls how many non-Marketplace apps you're allowed to install (which, on your student account, is the painfully low value of 3). It also controls whether your phone is "interop-unlocked"; set it to at least 300 to be able to install apps that can use high-privilege system services nd drivers to break out of their sandboxes (for example, my MutilTaskToggle app and the upcoming WP7 Root Tools for LG both require this). Most people just set the value to 2,000,000,000 or so.

GoodDayToDie said:
The phone will automatically re-lock once your AppHub account expires (although, if you're still a student at that point, I believe you can renew for free).
However, there's really no reason to limit yourself to the AppHub account. That tutorial you linked will work just fine, but it's missing one more value that you should set: MaxUnsignedApp (under the same registry key). This value controls how many non-Marketplace apps you're allowed to install (which, on your student account, is the painfully low value of 3). It also controls whether your phone is "interop-unlocked"; set it to at least 300 to be able to install apps that can use high-privilege system services nd drivers to break out of their sandboxes (for example, my MutilTaskToggle app and the upcoming WP7 Root Tools for LG both require this). Most people just set the value to 2,000,000,000 or so.
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Thanks! I've used this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1271963 to interop-unlock my phone already. Does this do the trick?
Also, is the WP7 Deployment tool offered from AppHub the only deployment tool available? Just curious.

Yeah, the Interop Unlock thread works fine. You'll notice it instructs you to do basically the same things as the other one, except it also instructs you to change MaxUnsignedApp.
It's not the only or even the best tool, no. However, most third-party tools rely on having the SDK installed anyhow, so you might want to do that nonetheless.

GoodDayToDie said:
Yeah, the Interop Unlock thread works fine. You'll notice it instructs you to do basically the same things as the other one, except it also instructs you to change MaxUnsignedApp.
It's not the only or even the best tool, no. However, most third-party tools rely on having the SDK installed anyhow, so you might want to do that nonetheless.
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Can you direct me to some better deploying tools, by any chance?

TouchXperience works just fine, and has the additional advantage of tracking which apps are installed for purposes of backing up data from them.
Otherwise, just do a search for XAP Deployer. I've tried a few, but most have either had some bugs or not been worth the advantages they offered. I've forgotten which other tools worked best, but you can probably make some guesses by the popularity of the threads.
If the official tool would just associate with XAP files correctly, that would be fine. Instead, it doesn't do so automatically and even if you associate it manually you still have to manually select the file when the program starts.

[Q] "Unlock" HTC Titan to load a single unsigned app (audible beta)?

Audible has offered to invite me to the private beta if I have a phone capable of installing their .XAP file. I don't but I would very much LIKE to have a phone capable of doing this. I have done some googling (binging?) and discovered my options seem to be
Apphub account ($100)
Windows break (Samsung/LG only)
Dreamspark (verified students only)
I have an HTC Titan on AT&T in the US running everything exactly as it came... I have not modified anything.
I have not been a student in years (not sure what it takes to get "verified"??)
It seems foolish to pay $100 for one app that will be out for free soon.
So... Options? I do not need any carrier unlock, ability to put apps int he marketplace, etc... Just the ability to install a single .XAP.
Thanks in advance!

I don't think you need to unlock your phone in order to test a private beta

I know that is possible (from other things I have read about) but their reply to my email indicated that an unlocked phone was required. Perhaps they simply choose not to use this option even though it's available?

JusThinK said:
In general for private beta, they might need your phone live ID and later they will give you a direct market download link, which you can download from the market, like Nokia PlayTo beta application.
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Yes, they ask for your live ID and then give you the MP link.