[Q] Chevron WP7 Unlock and official Developer Unlock: do they work together? - Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hello, I have the last Windows Phone 7.5 Mango version on my HTC HD7 (without internet sharing but with hidden wifi support) and now it's unlocked with Chevron WP7 Unlocker (I unlocked it starting from the first build, then upgrading to NoDo and at the end to Mango) and it's now percfectly unlocked. I'm a student and I'm going to register me at the Microsoft App Hub via Dreamspark. My question is if after that, I can deploy an infinity number of app yet (like I can do now with Chevron Unlock) or if my apps max will be 10. (If this, how can I remove this limit?)
Sorry for my English but it's not my mother language.

Androyx96 said:
Hello, I have the last Windows Phone 7.5 Mango version on my HTC HD7 (without internet sharing but with hidden wifi support) and now it's unlocked with Chevron WP7 Unlocker (I unlocked it starting from the first build, then upgrading to NoDo and at the end to Mango) and it's now percfectly unlocked. I'm a student and I'm going to register me at the Microsoft App Hub via Dreamspark. My question is if after that, I can deploy an infinity number of app yet (like I can do now with Chevron Unlock) or if my apps max will be 10. (If this, how can I remove this limit?)
Sorry for my English but it's not my mother language.
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For time being the limit is 10.If you are on dreamspark you can only have 3 apps right?Wait till someone able to to use interop-unlock for htc device then we can have more than 10 apps.You can go to other thread regarding htc interop-unlock.

But when someone will be able to use interop-unlock for my HTC, I can use my developer account AND install more than the limit of apps? (together)

uhm the interop-unlock is automatically made by the WP Core when you are allowed to install more than 300 apps. If you unlocked your Phone with Chevron there is no Need for you to reunlock it with the official tool

Thanks for the answer, I didn't know this thing about interop-unlock. So now that I have Chevron unlock with infinity apss and Mango update, if I register to Microsoft App Hub, will change something about my current Chevron unlock with infinity number of apps? Or this limit will be removed by my official developer account?
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No You cannot use the Chevron unlocked phone with Microsoft App Hub and Vice versa. If you have it unlocked via Chevron and want to use it with App Hub you need to contact them and get your phone remove from the list and vice versa
Chevron Uses an Official Method to unlock your phone but it is cheaper as MS does not give you access to Resources and does not allow you to upload files to Marketplace.
Check the FAQ

The Apps that you deploy are not linked to the account at all. You can develop 20 applications with any official unlock account (Student or normal) but you can only deploy the amount of apps the account is designed to. OEMs are officially interop unlocked and so they are able to use System dlls in their apps.
so short version: you can have an interop unlocked device based on any unlock (Chevron wp7, Chevron labs, Student unlock, developer unlock) and still get your apps into the marketplace (dozens of them but i think there is a Limit of 10 apps per week so you don't flood the marketplace with spam apps)

Thanks a lot for the answers. So in my case can I register at App Hub with a different Windows Live ID than my Phone WL ID, keeping my phone Chevron unlocked?
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So I stumbled on this thread via Google but I still don't understand anything. I currently have a student unlock. This lets me deploy 3 apps to the phone at a time. Will using ChevronWP7 Labs allow me to deploy more than that or no?

DrederickTatum said:
So I stumbled on this thread via Google but I still don't understand anything. I currently have a student unlock. This lets me deploy 3 apps to the phone at a time. Will using ChevronWP7 Labs allow me to deploy more than that or no?
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with chevronwp7 unlock you can only use max 10 apps only but you need to deactivate your student account as in the above post.

I also just came across this thread. But it's confusing me
I have a student developer unlocked device....how many apps can I sideload onto my phone?

How many apps can a student developer account unlocked phone side load?

Ttblondey said:
with chevronwp7 unlock you can only use max 10 apps only but you need to deactivate your student account as in the above post.
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Okay so with Chevron I can do 10 apps instead of 3. And I assume by "deactivate" you mean just delete my phone from my device list on App Hub. That shouldn't be an issue as far as App Hub because I used to submit apps before I even had a phone. I guess the real question is, can I build and test apps to the phone with a Chevron unlock the same way I did with my student unlock?

Androyx96 said:
Hello, I have the last Windows Phone 7.5 Mango version on my HTC HD7 (without internet sharing but with hidden wifi support) and now it's unlocked with Chevron WP7 Unlocker (I unlocked it starting from the first build, then upgrading to NoDo and at the end to Mango) and it's now percfectly unlocked. I'm a student and I'm going to register me at the Microsoft App Hub via Dreamspark. My question is if after that, I can deploy an infinity number of app yet (like I can do now with Chevron Unlock) or if my apps max will be 10. (If this, how can I remove this limit?)
Sorry for my English but it's not my mother language.
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with dreamspark unlock you have 10 app limit but you can remove this limit by Introp Unlock

sha.cr7rmu said:
with dreamspark unlock you have 10 app limit but you can remove this limit by Introp Unlock
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It's actually 3 with dreamspark. What's the difference between Introp Unlock and Chevron?

What's the difference between Introp Unlock and Chevron?

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[Q] Brand new to WP7

I just got my WP7 phone, an Arrive - it "arrrived" yesterday - and I'm about to take the plunge into Windows Phone 7 development. I have previously developed on PPC4, WM5, and WM6, but this is all new...
I'm about to register on the marketplace as a dev, and if I understand correctly, I will then unlock my phone so I can sideload apps from VS2010.
If I've read right, the Chevron unlock doesn't work with the Arrive, but I'm wondering if unlocking it by registering as a dev means I can still sideload the apps for tethering?
Yeah, probably a noob question, but I just want to make sure I don't end up screwing up my phone.
Thanks!
Yeah man if you get the official unlock you'll be able to install any sideloading apps you want!
Thanks. That's what I thought...
Now if I could ever get anything to go right with this whole deal. Now I'm waiting on GeoTrust to verify that I am who I say I am before I can get my account finished, and the Windows Phone Developer Unlocker tool in VS won't connect to my phone, even though Zune is working with it just fine. Ugh.
Yeah, until your account is verified the developer unlock tool won't work. Also note that while VS may send you to Zune to do the unlock, this is incorrect: installing teh WP7 dev tools placed an app on your PC called "Windows Phone Developer Registration" and it is this app that you will need to use for the unlock.
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[Q] Chevron unlock guide?

I know it's fairly simple process (if nothing goes wrong), but if possible, i would appreciate if someone can confirm if i understand prerequisites:
1) phone name in Zune must be unique.
I hate that kinda, but ok.
2) i need to have WP SDK installed.
Is that that huge install of a couple of GBs?
I would give a link, but download center keeps redirecting to some windows server update
3) chevron unlock tool
Am i missing something?
Again, i know there is FAQ on chevron, but it's thin on SDK part.
1) Best to ask them on Twitter @chevronwp7 or @WithinRafael.
2) Download the Support Tools or the SDK from here ( 14 Mb Each )
32-bit system, download the WPSupportToolv2-x86.msi package.
64-bit system, download the WPSupportToolv2-amd64.msi package.
3) chevron unlock tool is cheaper solution but if you need to put your apps in Market place you need App Hub Account
Chevron Tool basically uses The SDK and Zune to communicate with WP to unlock.
Let me know if you have more questions. I have written a tutorial on how to do it and it includes a bit length video if you want it.
Thanks alot!
Lol I though that I will have my phone inter-op unlocked after buying the token key.
What am i missing if i don't have interop?
If so you are not able to deploy apps that need root permissions such as wp7 root tool etc, apps that needs access to registry, write are not permitted
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nguyenhoangvk said:
If so you are not able to deploy apps that need root permissions such as wp7 root tool etc, apps that needs access to registry, write are not permitted
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So i might miss out on some "more advanced" homebrew apps?
Do you maybe have concrete examples?
the reason i'm interested in unlocking is, and i'm not ashamed to admit it, to pirate apps from marketplace.
WP has been on the market where i live (Croatia) almost right from the start, and i've been an early adopter (got my omnia in feb). And there is still not a mention of when paid marketplace and various other services will be available.
Also, because i had to create another live account registered to UK and use it as my main phone account (for free marketplace access), my office hub is empty, and there are no skydrive photo albums in pictures hub, since all of them are on the live account i actually use, and not on this token i had to create. I missing out on great features.
With that in mind, do i need interop unlock for marketplace apps?

N00B Question

I just got the Sprint Arrive yesterday. I am gathering that the Arrive is a little different version than the HTC 7 Pro. Does that mean that all the data i found towards unlocking the HTC 7 Pro does not apply to the Arrive? I am really trying to find a way to side load apps. I have gathered that i can if i go through AppHub or Chevron is that correct?
Correct. The Arrive has not been jailbroken at this time. The only way to sideload is to either Dev unlock from Microsoft (i.e. pay the $99 developer fee or via the Student option) or to pay for the Chevron unlock (which has hit the limit at the moment -- expect an updated limit "soon").
LayneRobinson said:
Correct. The Arrive has not been jailbroken at this time. The only way to sideload is to either Dev unlock from Microsoft (i.e. pay the $99 developer fee or via the Student option) or to pay for the Chevron unlock (which has hit the limit at the moment -- expect an updated limit "soon").
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Once i get DEV unlocked will i be able to use some of the items in the deveopment section here at XDA or am i just able to side load at that point?
Dev unlock allows you to install programs (XAP files). Some of them will work, others will not (those that require higher levels of unlock). This includes not being able to enable Internet Connection Sharing at this point.
Layne thank you for all your help. I just have one last question. I got an App Hub account and registered my phone. I read somewhere about receiving an email. Do I need that email first or am I done and ready to side load?
If you unlocked it with the tool (part of the SDK), then you should be set.
https://login.live.com/login.srf?wa...28v=VS.92%29.aspx&lc=1033&id=254354&mkt=en-US
You can deploy your own code via Visual Studio or XAP files through the other tools.

Windows phone system broken!

I tried to install gun bros this morning and halfway thru the installation it freezes
After reseting the phone, i cannot access the following
Zune
Marketplace
Settings (barely) --> cannot go into factory reset
xbox live
Camera (barely - take a photo and it gets stuck)
Internet (barely - cant access favorite)
ALL THIRD PARTY APPS ==> CANNOT ACCESS
The following still works
People
Picture
Messaging
methods tried
1. Sync with pc - see if it automatically fixes = no
- cannot sync media
- cannot access backup
- shows the following error message when syncing
http://www.zune.net/en-AU/support/w...help_originalid=C00D124D&webhelp_locale=en-AU
2. Switched battery, took out the sim card
I am not updated to Tango yet.
Is there anyway other than hard reset this phone? T_T
Does anyone know if you factory reset a phone, can it still go back to using the old backups?
Yes, you can still restore from backups after a hard reset. I've done it a few times on a couple of different handsets.
What model of phone is it?
Have you installed your own SD card in it (replacing the built-in one or adding your own, depending on model)?
Have you been messing with it in any hacky way (for example, do you have WP7 Root Tools installed, or have you flashed a custom ROM)?
Mozart 7 - chevron unlocked
No custom sd or rom
I ended up resetting it and return to my old backup. But now I don't have tether update anymore from HTC and the only update I keep receiving is tango... And I don't want to update to tango because I will lose my chevron unlock!
The frustration sigh..
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Do you mean ChevronWP7 Labs unlock, or the original Chevron Unlocker hack? If you've managed to carry the unlock hack forward this far (i.e. to Mango), you must have already interop-unlocked your phone. In that case, your best bet is to use WP7 Root Tools and follow the instructions on WindowsPhoneHacker about how to upgrade to Tango without your phone connecting to Microsoft to validate its unlock status. Even if you don't have WP7 Root Tools installed right now, your firmware version may now be compatible after you restored that backup.
If you have a Chevron Labs unlock, then you also now have a free AppHub account for official developer unlock, and that will give you the same amount of unlock access as Chevron Labs unlock does.
Lol I'm on chevron original unlock! Carried till latest mango with no interop unlock! I know that after 1 of the HTC update I couldn't use the registry editor anymore.
My current problem is that I restored to a backup without tethering, and I can't get that update anymore because I keep receiving the tango update instead
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All of the published ways to carry your original Chevron unlock forward to Mango also included interop-unlock (which is just the removal of the app sideloading limit), although you may not have known that.
I repeat, what firmware version are you on right now? Also, even if it doesn't *work*, can you at least launch the registry editor app? The answer to the first question will tell me how many HTC updates you have currently (and therefore what hacks can be used). The answer to the second will tell me whether or not you are, in fact, interop-unlocked (if you can launch apps like Registry Editor at all, regardless of whether they work, you're interop-unlocked).
Um ur actually talking to the same person on the mango interop unlock thread... Lol
OS version:
7.10.8107.79
Firmware revision number
2250.21.50001.707
Radio software version
5.69.09.05a_22.50.50.21U
Bootloader version
5.12.2250.5(139188
U pointed out it is 50001 already so it should be v2
But I replied that I have never applied the interop hack and I DO have access to registry editor still right now
Thank you for your responses, hopefully I'm not confusing u too much.
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The hack to carry your Chevron unlock forward to Mango *is* an interop unlock. There's many ways to apply the hack; the one you're probably thinking of is special only because it works for people who are already on Mango and didn't prepare their phones in any way beforehand.
That said, your firmware version is too high, as you say. If you don't downgrade that somehow, you won't be able to install WP7 Root Tools and therefore will lose your hacked unlock when you upgrade to Mango.

Is it possible to update to tango while keeping chevron unlock yet?

I have chevron unlock (no interop unlock)
Is it possible to update to tango without losing my unlock yet? I remember it requires interop at least last time i checked.
Does this guide work?
http://techbu.com/2012/07/01/how-to-upgrade-windows-phone-tango-without-unlocking-it
If it's a legit (i.e. ChevronWP7 Labs) unlock, you should be able to unlock again on Tango just by using the official tools (ChevronWP7 Labs tokens don't work anymore, but you should have recieved a free developer account which can also be used to unlock).
If it's an actual ChevronWP7 Unlocker unlock that you've managed to carry through this far, I all-but-guarantee that you are, in fact, interop-unlocked, or your phone would have re-locked itself long since. Technically the "prevent relock" and "interop-unlock" (MaxUnsignedApp) hacks are different, but every tool or hack that I'm aware which applies one fo them also applies the other, and they're both registry write hacks and require the same level of permissions.

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