I have an LG Quantum running Mango that is developer-unlocked.
I'm a student developer (signed up with an .edu account), which means I'm still on my free year. Once that free year expires, will my phone remain unlocked?
If not, can I use this tutorial to keep it unlocked? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=974874
Thanks,
David
The phone will automatically re-lock once your AppHub account expires (although, if you're still a student at that point, I believe you can renew for free).
However, there's really no reason to limit yourself to the AppHub account. That tutorial you linked will work just fine, but it's missing one more value that you should set: MaxUnsignedApp (under the same registry key). This value controls how many non-Marketplace apps you're allowed to install (which, on your student account, is the painfully low value of 3). It also controls whether your phone is "interop-unlocked"; set it to at least 300 to be able to install apps that can use high-privilege system services nd drivers to break out of their sandboxes (for example, my MutilTaskToggle app and the upcoming WP7 Root Tools for LG both require this). Most people just set the value to 2,000,000,000 or so.
GoodDayToDie said:
The phone will automatically re-lock once your AppHub account expires (although, if you're still a student at that point, I believe you can renew for free).
However, there's really no reason to limit yourself to the AppHub account. That tutorial you linked will work just fine, but it's missing one more value that you should set: MaxUnsignedApp (under the same registry key). This value controls how many non-Marketplace apps you're allowed to install (which, on your student account, is the painfully low value of 3). It also controls whether your phone is "interop-unlocked"; set it to at least 300 to be able to install apps that can use high-privilege system services nd drivers to break out of their sandboxes (for example, my MutilTaskToggle app and the upcoming WP7 Root Tools for LG both require this). Most people just set the value to 2,000,000,000 or so.
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Thanks! I've used this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1271963 to interop-unlock my phone already. Does this do the trick?
Also, is the WP7 Deployment tool offered from AppHub the only deployment tool available? Just curious.
Yeah, the Interop Unlock thread works fine. You'll notice it instructs you to do basically the same things as the other one, except it also instructs you to change MaxUnsignedApp.
It's not the only or even the best tool, no. However, most third-party tools rely on having the SDK installed anyhow, so you might want to do that nonetheless.
GoodDayToDie said:
Yeah, the Interop Unlock thread works fine. You'll notice it instructs you to do basically the same things as the other one, except it also instructs you to change MaxUnsignedApp.
It's not the only or even the best tool, no. However, most third-party tools rely on having the SDK installed anyhow, so you might want to do that nonetheless.
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Can you direct me to some better deploying tools, by any chance?
TouchXperience works just fine, and has the additional advantage of tracking which apps are installed for purposes of backing up data from them.
Otherwise, just do a search for XAP Deployer. I've tried a few, but most have either had some bugs or not been worth the advantages they offered. I've forgotten which other tools worked best, but you can probably make some guesses by the popularity of the threads.
If the official tool would just associate with XAP files correctly, that would be fine. Instead, it doesn't do so automatically and even if you associate it manually you still have to manually select the file when the program starts.
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I know it's fairly simple process (if nothing goes wrong), but if possible, i would appreciate if someone can confirm if i understand prerequisites:
1) phone name in Zune must be unique.
I hate that kinda, but ok.
2) i need to have WP SDK installed.
Is that that huge install of a couple of GBs?
I would give a link, but download center keeps redirecting to some windows server update
3) chevron unlock tool
Am i missing something?
Again, i know there is FAQ on chevron, but it's thin on SDK part.
1) Best to ask them on Twitter @chevronwp7 or @WithinRafael.
2) Download the Support Tools or the SDK from here ( 14 Mb Each )
32-bit system, download the WPSupportToolv2-x86.msi package.
64-bit system, download the WPSupportToolv2-amd64.msi package.
3) chevron unlock tool is cheaper solution but if you need to put your apps in Market place you need App Hub Account
Chevron Tool basically uses The SDK and Zune to communicate with WP to unlock.
Let me know if you have more questions. I have written a tutorial on how to do it and it includes a bit length video if you want it.
Thanks alot!
Lol I though that I will have my phone inter-op unlocked after buying the token key.
What am i missing if i don't have interop?
If so you are not able to deploy apps that need root permissions such as wp7 root tool etc, apps that needs access to registry, write are not permitted
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nguyenhoangvk said:
If so you are not able to deploy apps that need root permissions such as wp7 root tool etc, apps that needs access to registry, write are not permitted
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So i might miss out on some "more advanced" homebrew apps?
Do you maybe have concrete examples?
the reason i'm interested in unlocking is, and i'm not ashamed to admit it, to pirate apps from marketplace.
WP has been on the market where i live (Croatia) almost right from the start, and i've been an early adopter (got my omnia in feb). And there is still not a mention of when paid marketplace and various other services will be available.
Also, because i had to create another live account registered to UK and use it as my main phone account (for free marketplace access), my office hub is empty, and there are no skydrive photo albums in pictures hub, since all of them are on the live account i actually use, and not on this token i had to create. I missing out on great features.
With that in mind, do i need interop unlock for marketplace apps?
I just got the Sprint Arrive yesterday. I am gathering that the Arrive is a little different version than the HTC 7 Pro. Does that mean that all the data i found towards unlocking the HTC 7 Pro does not apply to the Arrive? I am really trying to find a way to side load apps. I have gathered that i can if i go through AppHub or Chevron is that correct?
Correct. The Arrive has not been jailbroken at this time. The only way to sideload is to either Dev unlock from Microsoft (i.e. pay the $99 developer fee or via the Student option) or to pay for the Chevron unlock (which has hit the limit at the moment -- expect an updated limit "soon").
LayneRobinson said:
Correct. The Arrive has not been jailbroken at this time. The only way to sideload is to either Dev unlock from Microsoft (i.e. pay the $99 developer fee or via the Student option) or to pay for the Chevron unlock (which has hit the limit at the moment -- expect an updated limit "soon").
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Once i get DEV unlocked will i be able to use some of the items in the deveopment section here at XDA or am i just able to side load at that point?
Dev unlock allows you to install programs (XAP files). Some of them will work, others will not (those that require higher levels of unlock). This includes not being able to enable Internet Connection Sharing at this point.
Layne thank you for all your help. I just have one last question. I got an App Hub account and registered my phone. I read somewhere about receiving an email. Do I need that email first or am I done and ready to side load?
If you unlocked it with the tool (part of the SDK), then you should be set.
https://login.live.com/login.srf?wa...28v=VS.92%29.aspx&lc=1033&id=254354&mkt=en-US
You can deploy your own code via Visual Studio or XAP files through the other tools.
Hello,
I registered my device through the App Hub, I am a student. I registered it through the Windows Phone Developer Registration.
Now, can I install XAP files, downloaded from the forum? I tried Tom Xap Installer without luck.
Thank you for any info.
If you registered your phone as a device under https://users.create.msdn.com/Account/Devices then you should definitively be able to install any xap file you want.
For more information look at the huge documentation from Microsoft:
http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/gg588378(v=VS.92).aspx
I tried to install 2 applications, Registry Editor (TouchXperience), and Sms Backup but I got an error code. I searched and find that if you have a registered device you can not install homebrew xaps. Something about interop-unlock.
What does that mean and is there a way to pass it ?
I also tested this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1149186 it gave me a successful message but it is not showing in my phone though.
You're partially right. All apps which haven't been committed to the MS Marketplace are "homebrew" apps. Technically there isn't even a difference between homebrewn and "official" apps. So usually you should be able to deploy any app to your phone.
The problem is (in your case) that some apps require more security rights on your phone than others - simply spoken. For example those are apps which try to access the registry or any system-near functions (like text messages). Those apps require you to interop-unlock your phone which is more complex and depends on various factors.
Just use the forum search to find "wp7 interop unlock mango".
There's a huge market of non-interop apps which you can just deploy like any other self-developed app.
I hope I could help you.
Thank you. One last question. Can you point me a link of non-interop apps?
When you were researching that error code and found out about interop-unlock, did you also miss the thread on how to interop-unlock your phone? OK, not all phones can be IUed, but many can. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1271963 has info about interop-unlock, and the steps (and tools) required to get it (on supported phones).
As for non-interop homebrew, I'm not sure there's a full list anywhere. A few examples, though:
Screen Capturer
Mango Webserver
Folders
DllImport project (and most things made using it)
Orientation Lock
OEM Marketplace XAPs (not really apps, they just take advantage of the app installer)
Audible has offered to invite me to the private beta if I have a phone capable of installing their .XAP file. I don't but I would very much LIKE to have a phone capable of doing this. I have done some googling (binging?) and discovered my options seem to be
Apphub account ($100)
Windows break (Samsung/LG only)
Dreamspark (verified students only)
I have an HTC Titan on AT&T in the US running everything exactly as it came... I have not modified anything.
I have not been a student in years (not sure what it takes to get "verified"??)
It seems foolish to pay $100 for one app that will be out for free soon.
So... Options? I do not need any carrier unlock, ability to put apps int he marketplace, etc... Just the ability to install a single .XAP.
Thanks in advance!
I don't think you need to unlock your phone in order to test a private beta
I know that is possible (from other things I have read about) but their reply to my email indicated that an unlocked phone was required. Perhaps they simply choose not to use this option even though it's available?
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In general for private beta, they might need your phone live ID and later they will give you a direct market download link, which you can download from the market, like Nokia PlayTo beta application.
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Yes, they ask for your live ID and then give you the MP link.
I have one idea for great solution [need help from experts].
Hey guys, about two months I started to find some way to unlock my HTC HD7.5 with Mango at the latest update.
But up till now, I never find a concrete way to Unlock my Windows Phone because I find any different problems when I tried to Unlock my Device.
It was a true damnation for me, because I like so much to personalize my things, it's my passion and sincerely I don't accept to have one phone with the same aspect of the all originals.
Now I explain my idea,
With the original Microsoft Marketplace App on our Smartphones, we can always download and install directly the Apps (.Xap) inside and without Chevron.
For the Homebrew it's not the same, we can't install this directly like Marketplace, we need always the unlock.
But now the idea coming in my mind, if we study this App function and adapt it for install the custom Apps by the Web browser, and we put it on same blog with his website gadget, can also make that functions?
Pratically I think:
We create some blog/site with info, news, and the App-gadget who can simulate the Marketplace functions, with the running and installing process.
After we can open that through our Smartphone's IE9 and we feely download ad install the homebrews apps, also the jailbreaks/unlocks (if we create some kind of new).
Anyway it's a great idea, and I'm sure we need the concrete gadget, me I can't realize because I don't have some programmator experiences, but I find this bast**d idea
Here there are much programmators, for they maybe it's not a problem to realize!
I hope xD
It's entirely possible that I'm misunderstanding due to your English (though I doubt I'd do as well in whatever your native language is) but I *think* what you're suggesting is already well-known to not be possible.
First of all, the phone will neither install nor execute unsigned apps (that is, homebrew) unless it is developer-unlocked. You can test this on a dev-unlocked phone; temporarily revoke the dev-unlock, and try to launch any app that you sideloaded onto the phone. It won't work. Since it's extremely unlikely that will be able to add the Marketplace signature to homebrew XAP files, that's a no-go.
Second, we already know how to install apps from IE on the phone (if you look at my XapHandler app, that's what it does). However, just because we know how to do it doesn't mean it can be done on every phone. First, you need dev-unlock just so you can execute unsigned code on the phone at all. Second, you need root-unlock so the XAP installation code runs with enough privileges to install apps.
If instead you mean just make a website that spoofs the Marketplace, that's easy to do but it won't help. The phone doesn't actually really care what Marketplace site it connects to; it just downloads the app over HTTP from some web server. The problem is that the XAP file needs to be signed (first issue that I mentioned) or a dev-locked phone won't install it.
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It's entirely possible that I'm misunderstanding due to your English (though I doubt I'd do as well in whatever your native language is) but I *think* what you're suggesting is already well-known to not be possible.
First of all, the phone will neither install nor execute unsigned apps (that is, homebrew) unless it is developer-unlocked. You can test this on a dev-unlocked phone; temporarily revoke the dev-unlock, and try to launch any app that you sideloaded onto the phone. It won't work. Since it's extremely unlikely that will be able to add the Marketplace signature to homebrew XAP files, that's a no-go.
Second, we already know how to install apps from IE on the phone (if you look at my XapHandler app, that's what it does). However, just because we know how to do it doesn't mean it can be done on every phone. First, you need dev-unlock just so you can execute unsigned code on the phone at all. Second, you need root-unlock so the XAP installation code runs with enough privileges to install apps.
If instead you mean just make a website that spoofs the Marketplace, that's easy to do but it won't help. The phone doesn't actually really care what Marketplace site it connects to; it just downloads the app over HTTP from some web server. The problem is that the XAP file needs to be signed (first issue that I mentioned) or a dev-locked phone won't install it.
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Uhm ok, I understand.
Too bad, because it was a good idea!