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A little bird told me last nite that 4G is coming this fall to USCC !!! Anyone else hear this?
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Will believe it when we see that, but heres to hoping it is true!

As long a it took to get 3g I don't know.but if they do I hope it's LTE
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2 things:
1. 4G does not exist anywhere. Gigabit speeds over your phone is an awesome idea... but it's just an idea. 4G LTE as they are calling it for cell phones is a marketing term, and I hate it. 10-30MB download speed is awesome, but it's not 4G.
2. Believe it (for the LTE part). I'm in the process of working on LTE audits in my market now. You may not get it in your market this fall, but if things go as planned, some may. The game isn't the same anymore and things are coming down a lot faster than they used to.

Soooo....
Once LTE is truly on the horizon, the question then becomes "What will USCC offer for high-tier smartphones?"

phidelt82 said:
2 things:
1. 4G does not exist anywhere. Gigabit speeds over your phone is an awesome idea... but it's just an idea. 4G LTE as they are calling it for cell phones is a marketing term, and I hate it. 10-30MB download speed is awesome, but it's not 4G.
2. Believe it (for the LTE part). I'm in the process of working on LTE audits in my market now. You may not get it in your market this fall, but if things go as planned, some may. The game isn't the same anymore and things are coming down a lot faster than they used to.
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4G is just a fancy name for sped up 3G networks. You're right there is no 4G anywhere. Maybe a wi-max network or two but nothing close to actual 4G speeds. It pisses me off too that they are allowed to call these small upgrades 4G. Originally they were not going to be allowed to call it 4G but they all pushed back because of the marketing hype it would generate. None of the supposed 4G networks are that much faster than the 3G networks currently out there. How is ATT supposed to have 4G when there are three small places in the country that have 3G for them? Haha no wonder they want T-Mobile

I was on phone arena.com a while ago reading the news and it did say they will be getting it. They are testing 4g atm.
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From 4g with full bars to 1x....

I just got my thunderbolt and my 4g keeps dropping.... Is there a problem?
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Ever since the nationwide outtage a week ago my 4g has been spotty at best.
I have noticed slower 4g speeds on average and it drops alot more as well.

DroidHam said:
I just got my thunderbolt and my 4g keeps dropping.... Is there a problem?
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yeah, stop dropping it

I had the same problem after spending a weekend in Mexico - they replaced my SIM card at the store and it has worked fine ever sense.

I keep cycling through 3g/1X and the network is constantly unavailable, wtf is going on? Im so disappointed with this phone so far.
I dont know if I need to install a new radio? I installed bamfs remix 1.6 and some lean kernel, did I do something wrong? My Incredible never had these issues

Where do you live? That obviously matters, 4g coverage keeps expanding in Chicagoland area, I get 4g almost everywhere I go.

I live in Akron, I get full 4g bars then it drops to nothing, then 1x, then 3G. its unreal

Did you enter your address in the coverage map? Don't know how big Akron 4g coverage is, but again, I rarely ever lose 4g around Chicago and the burbs.

Unrooted BOLT, same issue with connection
I have been seeing the same about the connectivity being bad. I live in burbs of Philadelphia, only about 20 mins from city so i'm not going to pin it on my location..
So you are rooted? I however am not. Just got the thing and wanted to see how it was for a bit before rooting, but now i'm thinking before i root i better make sure the phone isn't crap or i'm not gonna be able to return it.
Ugh. Let me know if you're going to try and call VZ, HTC, or whatever. PM me if you find anything.
DroidHam said:
I keep cycling through 3g/1X and the network is constantly unavailable, wtf is going on? Im so disappointed with this phone so far.
I dont know if I need to install a new radio? I installed bamfs remix 1.6 and some lean kernel, did I do something wrong? My Incredible never had these issues
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it's not just the 4 g service I can even keep a 3g signal have the time and I use to have no problems on my incredible
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DroidHam said:
it's not just the 4 g service I can even keep a 3g signal have the time and I use to have no problems on my incredible
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Cant ***
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I'm in Wilmington, DE.
Mine is going up and down, as well as getting 3G or just bars in areas that should be 4G.
Another person in the office here, which should be good 4G, also having his phone do the same.
I'm rooted, he is stock.
It happens to me just about anywhere I go lately.

mg00000 said:
I have been seeing the same about the connectivity being bad. I live in burbs of Philadelphia, only about 20 mins from city so i'm not going to pin it on my location..
So you are rooted? I however am not. Just got the thing and wanted to see how it was for a bit before rooting, but now i'm thinking before i root i better make sure the phone isn't crap or i'm not gonna be able to return it.
Ugh. Let me know if you're going to try and call VZ, HTC, or whatever. PM me if you find anything.
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I don't know where you got that information from but thats false. You can easily return to a complete stock state after rooting if need be.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1009423

mg00000 said:
I have been seeing the same about the connectivity being bad. I live in burbs of Philadelphia, only about 20 mins from city so i'm not going to pin it on my location..
So you are rooted? I however am not. Just got the thing and wanted to see how it was for a bit before rooting, but now i'm thinking before i root i better make sure the phone isn't crap or i'm not gonna be able to return it.
Ugh. Let me know if you're going to try and call VZ, HTC, or whatever. PM me if you find anything.
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Pretty much from Mid-County to the Lehigh Valley exit is still 3G in most areas but south towards the city and in the Lehigh Valley itself is all LTE. I travel down from Allentown to Philly regularly and I can tell you this from personal experience.
FYI Lehigh Valley LTE is down right now but I just got out of a meeting with Verizon (less than an hour ago) and they supposedly knew there was some maintenance being done in our area (so that may be the reason for the current outage.) If you switch out of LTE Mode to CDMA LTE auto you should pick up 3G (I'd also enable airplane mode and then disable it to pick up a strong 3G for right now.)
Oh and +1 on the rooted/non-rooted thing. You can flash back to non-rooted stock from a rooted state to send it back. Instructions are in the development forum.

Cubs2008 said:
Pretty much from Mid-County to the Lehigh Valley exit is still 3G in most areas but south towards the city and in the Lehigh Valley itself is all LTE. I travel down from Allentown to Philly regularly and I can tell you this from personal experience.
FYI Lehigh Valley LTE is down right now but I just got out of a meeting with Verizon (less than an hour ago) and they supposedly knew there was some maintenance being done in our area (so that may be the reason for the current outage.) If you switch out of LTE Mode to CDMA LTE auto you should pick up 3G (I'd also enable airplane mode and then disable it to pick up a strong 3G for right now.)
Oh and +1 on the rooted/non-rooted thing. You can flash back to non-rooted stock from a rooted state to send it back. Instructions are in the development forum.
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Hi there, thanks for that info i appreciate it. I seem to be missing where htc allows us to switch btwn the 4g and 3g, i searched for the question but didn't get much results. So i'll my noob question right here. Where is that done?
I see under Settings > Wire & networks > Mobile network settings there is a System select option, for "Change the cdma roaming mode", is this where i'm supposed to be? Roaming doesn't seem to be the area i'd think to have to change this particular thing, but i don't see much else in these menus. Please advise or link a thread that i didn't see in my results.

Verizon has a problem with their new eHRPD network.. which is what the Thunderbolt is on by default.. (this allows for 4G + simultaneous talk and browse on 3G).. However, though 4G works OK, 3G doesn't seem to.
In order to tap into Verizon's original 3G network.. dial ##778# on your phone.. go to edit mode (you'll see pop up after you dial that number)..password is 000000 (6 zeros).. go to modem settings.. Rev.A and eHRPD is probably selected there by default.. choose "Enable" option... which will kick it out of eHRPD and then hit menu.. commit changes.. and the phone will reboot. You'll be on Verizon's original 3G network which will work fine.. but you won't have 4G.

I don't know about you but I still have 4g...

4g
g00s3y said:
I don't know about you but I still have 4g...
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I knew N.J. was better
Go Giants!!

kriskmk said:
Verizon has a problem with their new eHRPD network.. which is what the Thunderbolt is on by default.. (this allows for 4G + simultaneous talk and browse on 3G).. However, though 4G works OK, 3G doesn't seem to.
In order to tap into Verizon's original 3G network.. dial ##778# on your phone.. go to edit mode (you'll see pop up after you dial that number)..password is 000000 (6 zeros).. go to modem settings.. Rev.A and eHRPD is probably selected there by default.. choose "Enable" option... which will kick it out of eHRPD and then hit menu.. commit changes.. and the phone will reboot. You'll be on Verizon's original 3G network which will work fine.. but you won't have 4G.
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that defeats the purpose eh? Is this the same thing built into BAMF?

DroidHam said:
that defeats the purpose eh? Is this the same thing built into BAMF?
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I am not sure.. i don't use BAMF..

AT&T has been tricking me this whole time?!

I just wanted to share something I experienced last night. I recently rooted and flashed a few roms. (ARHD, LeeDroid). I noticed that the "H" icon at the top would toggle between "H" and "3G". I found out the that network was switching from HSDPA to UMTS and back. I thought this was an issue with the Radios / RILs I was using and was going nuts trying to find a good combo. I mean c'mon, it was ALWAYS "H+" for me when I was stock!
Turns out AT&T has been playing tricks on me the whole time. I checked my wifes pure stock Inspire 4G and her network was switching between HSDPA and UMTS too! But her H+ icon was always "H+"... it never changed!
Wow, so the stock AT&T rom always shows "H+" no matter if its UMTS or HSDPA?

Welcome to AT&T. That's what they do.

their '4g" also only goes to like 1.8 lol
On tmo I pull like 8 constantly
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sgtmedeiros said:
their '4g" also only goes to like 1.8 lol
On tmo I pull like 8 constantly
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I usually peak around 6, although when congested, I'm usually around 4.
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ive been up to 8 down and 1.5 up

Ken4G said:
I just wanted to share something I experienced last night. I recently rooted and flashed a few roms. (ARHD, LeeDroid). I noticed that the "H" icon at the top would toggle between "H" and "3G". I found out the that network was switching from HSDPA to UMTS and back. I thought this was an issue with the Radios / RILs I was using and was going nuts trying to find a good combo. I mean c'mon, it was ALWAYS "H+" for me when I was stock!
Turns out AT&T has been playing tricks on me the whole time. I checked my wifes pure stock Inspire 4G and her network was switching between HSDPA and UMTS too! But her H+ icon was always "H+"... it never changed!
Wow, so the stock AT&T rom always shows "H+" no matter if its UMTS or HSDPA?
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so you've finally discovered on your own what some of us have been saying for months? i wish more people would take it upon themselves to understand it like you did. i hope more people see this thread when they start complaining about lack of H+ on custom roms

Mine has been doing this off and on for quite a while whereas my first one didn't . I've also experienced major call dropping issues. My current is a refurb for a defect in the original. We went through the whole troubleshooting blah blah blah, 3 different sim cards too.
I called and spoke w/ retentions after "warranty" refused a new device to keep my service. Retentions was more than happy to credit my acct $90 to cover the cost of a NIB replacement along w/ waived overnight shipping and activation.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=muxbFLjZ4fc&feature=youtube_gdata_player

Unlocked ATRIX 2, currently on T-Mobile. Can I get 4g?

My service bars are full but it has an "E" instead of 2g, 3g, or as I would prefer, 4g. Does anyone know if I will have to root my phone? Or what my limits are considering it is unlocked and working on T-Mobile?
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Im pretty sure you're gonna be stuck with Edge as in the bands are different for 3G and Hspa

I have a friend that has an Atrix 4g unlocked on T-Mobile, and he has claimed to have gotten a 4g signal in one fringe area. He said that it was very spotty at best but it worked. I suspect it was some kind or roam signal he caught, or he was delusional. But Edge is definitely the best you will get since the frequencies are different. There is no fix for that, it is a hardware thing.

Oh wow... that really sucks. Thanks for the answers though. What if I root it or that still wouldn't be able to help? Edge is pretty ****ty service for such a nice phone, which is why I got it... plus I got a hell of a deal on it lol
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Is Atrix 2 unlocked?
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Ashley88 said:
Oh wow... that really sucks. Thanks for the answers though. What if I root it or that still wouldn't be able to help? Edge is pretty ****ty service for such a nice phone, which is why I got it... plus I got a hell of a deal on it lol
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I have heard the same as lilhaiti & JRW 28. Tmobile has different frequencies and the best you're gonna get with a non Tmobile phone is Edge. And as said prior, it's a hardware thing, not software.

Yes its unlocked
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How did you unlock your atrix 2? ive tried dang near everything even a paid site.

T-Mobile will not get 4g. The hardware does not support the signal.band. sorry I had this issue on my hd2. I am att and I never got 3g. That's why I got this phone. Sorry to bring the bad news
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Atrix 2 Unlocked No Signal
I have successfully removed the network lock on an Atrix 2 but gets absolutely no signal/emergency calls only with a T-Mobile sim. When I search for Network providers only AT&T shows. I was wondering if the radio was locked for some reason. Anyone else had this problem?
(For those of you who like to throw out the simplest ideas: Yes T-Mobile has service in the area. Yes: I have done a reset and chaged sims etc..)

guyinyoureye said:
I have successfully removed the network lock on an Atrix 2 but gets absolutely no signal/emergency calls only with a T-Mobile sim. When I search for Network providers only AT&T shows. I was wondering if the radio was locked for some reason. Anyone else had this problem?
(For those of you who like to throw out the simplest ideas: Yes T-Mobile has service in the area. Yes: I have done a reset and chaged sims etc..)
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Have you set the Tmobile apn (acsess point names)
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DarkJatrix said:
Have you set the Tmobile apn (acsess point names)
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That was my thought too. What plan are you on? I read that you can use their 30 dallar unlimited plan when you activate a new sim card.

I still have the hope that at some point after the BL gets unlocked we might get a hacked radio kernel of sorts that will allow use of t mobile bands..... The global 2 did something like this to allow use of t mobile...... One can hope.....

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I have a friend that has an Atrix 4g unlocked on T-Mobile, and he has claimed to have gotten a 4g signal in one fringe area. He said that it was very spotty at best but it worked. I suspect it was some kind or roam signal he caught, or he was delusional. But Edge is definitely the best you will get since the frequencies are different. There is no fix for that, it is a hardware thing.
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You can get 4G on T-Mobile, but only in certain areas as of right now. Pretty soon though, after T-Mobile starts utilizing the frequencies gained from the deal going through, you should start seeing more 4G in more places. But we have to wait and see if it actually happens.
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You can get 4G on T-Mobile, but only in certain areas as of right now. Pretty soon though, after T-Mobile starts utilizing the frequencies gained from the deal going through, you should start seeing more 4G in more places. But we have to wait and see if it actually happens.
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Idk that the "deal" will allow 4G. Remember tmo and att use different frequencies
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Ashley88 said:
My service bars are full but it has an "E" instead of 2g, 3g, or as I would prefer, 4g. Does anyone know if I will have to root my phone? Or what my limits are considering it is unlocked and working on T-Mobile?
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PS. The 4G HSPA is fake 4G, it is just an enhanced 3G connection. So in reality Hspa = 3G
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I live in Vietnam, and I have a problem with Vinaphone network, added APN, but can only use HSPA (4G icon).
If I switch to GPRS (E icon), it says connected, but I cannot ping pass.
Other network (Viettel) is normal.

Even if the bootloader gets unlocked I still believe it would be a hardware issue not an issue of the radio software. They use the same 2g frequency so you can still get edge, but when it comes to 3g they operate on different frequencies. Some phones are made with the hardware for both frequencies though. My Samsung Vibrant (Tmobile phone) actually had the hardware to be used on AT&T 3g! The radio software was an issue unfortunately and it didn't switch well between 2g and 3g, tried all sorts of radio software but had no luck back then.
From what people have experienced by taking this phone to AT&T though, its looking like the Atrix 2 doesn't have the right hardware for the Tmobile 3g frequency.
I'm not one to say something is impossible though. Who knows.. maybe through the failed merger of AT&T and TMobile, TMobile was somehow able to gain access to some of AT&T's 3g towers (doubtful), since they did gain coverage through the breakup agreement after the merger failed.

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Idk that the "deal" will allow 4G. Remember tmo and att use different frequencies
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In certain markets, they will get part of the frequency that AT&T uses for 4G. I forgot what bands exactly, but if you do a Google search, you should get more info.
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I'm using unlocked Atrix 2 on T-Mobile. And I did get 4G signal when I was in downtown Bellevue, WA. I didn't believe so I ran few speedtests, best I got on Download was 1501kbps, and 1416kbps Upload, and it wasn't roaming. So yes, it works in few places right now.

No CDMA/LTE option

So i havent really been paying that much attention to LTE, since i live out where it is not available yet. But today, i am working in Atlanta, where i know there is LTE coverage from Sprint, and my phone never connects to LTE and it does not connect to 4g in alot of places where my Epic did. So i realized that in my mobile network options, I have an option for CDMA/4g, but I do not have an option for CDMA/LTE. I called Sprint and of course they want me to take it to a service and repair center, but my phone is rooted. I am afraid all they are going to say is me rooting the phone is why it is not working and that I should not have done that, and probably void my warranty. Does anyone else have this problem and know a fix for it? Please let me know if you do!
Thanks!

I was under the impression that it would automatically connect to LTE when it was available. I haven't seen/heard of a way to toggle LTE. you're wondering if something is wrong because you were not able to connect to LTE in an area which is supposed to have LTE? Are certain that LTE was available?
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It is my understanding that it does auto connect to LTE if you have it set to CDMA/LTE or Automatic. I am in an area where I know LTE is available because i checked the coverage map, and called to verify as well. Also, when connected to LTE, i thought i had heard that instead of saying 4g, there is actually a symbol that says LTE. I was also told by the Sprint rep, that my option should read CDMA/LTE instead of CDMA/4g.

whitelightnin3006 said:
It is my understanding that it does auto connect to LTE if you have it set to CDMA/LTE or Automatic. I am in an area where I know LTE is available because i checked the coverage map, and called to verify as well. Also, when connected to LTE, i thought i had heard that instead of saying 4g, there is actually a symbol that says LTE. I was also told by the Sprint rep, that my option should read CDMA/LTE instead of CDMA/4g.
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Pretty sure it says 4g when connected to lte. There is no wimax chip so lte is there 4g
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Rangerbry said:
Pretty sure it says 4g when connected to lte. There is no wimax chip so lte is there 4g
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That makes sense to me, because that would explain why I dont get 4g in some spots where I used to get it with my Epic. But, I still dont think it is correct, I am showing 4g right now and my speed is 5.5mb down. LTE should be higher than that shouldnt it? Also, that still doesnt explain why I would have the CDMA/4g option instead of having CDMA/LTE option.
Can anyone confirm on the Photon Q that when connected to LTE is shows an LTE icon, and that your option in mobile networks does say CDMA/LTE?

Rangerbry said:
Pretty sure it says 4g when connected to lte. There is no wimax chip so lte is there 4g
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I would have to agree, I don't think there's anything in the Android framework to show "LTE" as a radio status... It should show 4g.
I say this, and I've never seen the phone connected to LTE/4G.
Also, OP - I'm sure this goes without saying, but you seem to think that because you had Wimax there before, you'll have LTE there now - that is certainly not going to be the case. In my area we have great Wimax service, but we're not even on the roadmap for LTE from Sprint...
So just because you had 4g on Sprint there before does not mean you'll automatically have 4g there! I hope their rollout is pretty aggressive, but obviously it's a heavy capital cost.

CDMA/4G is what you want it set to for LTE. Also, not all of Atlanta is lit up yet...maybe like 30-40%. If it exists where you are it will connect.

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CDMA/4G is what you want it set to for LTE. Also, not all of Atlanta is lit up yet...maybe like 30-40%. If it exists where you are it will connect.
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The map that i am looking at on Sprint's website shows basically 100% of Atlanta, and much of the outskirts and suburbs as well having LTE coverage. It looks like most of about a 50 mile radius of Atlanta is lit up, but I only get coverage for a very small percentage of the area that their map is showing that supposedly gets LTE service. So either my phone is messed up, or they are full of sh**

My option in settings says cdma/4g.
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The icon is 4g on the phone, I've seen at least one video review of the phone somewhere where it shows 4g on the screen. And the others are correct, 4g *is* LTE on this phone in terms of the network settings.

I would look at this forum (on another website, www.s4gru.com), it shows all the current released markets and the percent complete. The Atlanta market is only 30% complete so you probably half to be in the right spot to get 4G and in the perfect spot to get over 10 mbps. But as the days (weeks, months etc) go on it will get better. I'm in Rochester NY and we are in the 3rd round for release which wont see any LTE until Summer 2013.....I think Sprint's completion plan of end of 2013 is not going to work out...but I am hoping that Sprint proves me wrong.

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I would look at this forum (on another website, www.s4gru.com), it shows all the current released markets and the percent complete. The Atlanta market is only 30% complete so you probably half to be in the right spot to get 4G and in the perfect spot to get over 10 mbps. But as the days (weeks, months etc) go on it will get better. I'm in Rochester NY and we are in the 3rd round for release which wont see any LTE until Summer 2013.....I think Sprint's completion plan of end of 2013 is not going to work out...but I am hoping that Sprint proves me wrong.
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This seems to be more accurate than Sprints site. That is what pisses me off, you can go to their site and check coverage, and according to it, and their reps on the phone, LTE should be available now, all over Atlanta. That is obviously not the case though. Thanks for the link

whitelightnin3006 said:
Can anyone confirm on the Photon Q that when connected to LTE is shows an LTE icon, and that your option in mobile networks does say CDMA/LTE?
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Nope, it says "4G" both on the indication icon and on the Mobile Data connection options page.
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"4G" is just dumb marketing-speak anyway.