[Q] Is unrooting can get back your warranty in xperia sk17i - General Questions and Answers

if i unroot my Xperia Mini pro (SK17i) do i get back my warranty?
i have install CWM. if i repair it on PC companion. it will be back to normal and get back my warranty?
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yes if you unroot it and come back to stock Rom you will get your warranty back.
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rambg2 said:
if i unroot my Xperia Mini pro (SK17i) do i get back my warranty?
i have install CWM. if i repair it on PC companion. it will be back to normal and get back my warranty?
(SORRY FOR MY BAD ENGLISH)
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shivam1688 said:
yes if you unroot it and come back to stock Rom you will get your warranty back.
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No.
Once warranty is void (gone), you can't get it back.
Warranty is a legal term not something physical.

Dark3n said:
No.
Once warranty is void (gone), you can't get it back.
Warranty is a legal term not something physical.
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Your warranty is only gone if the manufacturer knows that you were rooted. If you send back a phone that looks stock, you are good to go.

lowandbehold said:
Your warranty is only gone if the manufacturer knows that you were rooted.
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No, your warranty is gone as soon as you do something that voids it, i.e. software modification.
It doesn't matter who knows.
Thats like saying something isn't a crime until someone knows of it. Of course it is still a crime, but if no one knows, nothing will be done about it.
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If you send back a phone that looks stock, you are good to go.
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You are good to go to obtain free repair by fraud.
If the manufactor, repaircenter or anyone else cares... thats a different story.
I'm just sick of reading "flash X to get your warranty back", thats just bs.
Once its gone, its gone.

Who is to decidem what is wrong and what is right....
Dark3n said:
No, your warranty is gone as soon as you do something that voids it, i.e. software modification.
It doesn't matter who knows.
Thats like saying something isn't a crime until someone knows of it. Of course it is still a crime, but if no one knows, nothing will be done about it.
You are good to go to obtain free repair by fraud.
If the manufactor, repaircenter or anyone else cares... thats a different story.
I'm just sick of reading "flash X to get your warranty back", thats just bs.
Once its gone, its gone.
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Have you ever said atleast one lie in your life.....then you are a liar through out your entire life....I am not saying this.......its another form of your own philosophical logic.....
what is wrong and what is right......what is justice and what is injustice.....don't think in terms of good and bad.......good for some is always bad for some other, isn't it?

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Will HTC replace my phone for a loose charging port or will they say I abused it?Thanks
Macklessdaddy said:
Will HTC replace my phone for a loose charging port or will they say I abused it?Thanks
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HTC will probably make you send it in for repair.
Probably say you abused it. What's your carrier?
Shaquiel Harris said:
Probably say you abused it. What's your carrier?
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tmobile,if they deny it then I will tell them something else is wrong with it
Just blame the software easy as that
tough to say....probably depends on the tech that gets to look at it. Call HTC, see what they'll make you do to get a replacement and go from there...
tigerz0202 said:
Just blame the software easy as that
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should have done that but I told them the truth,they said to call them with the serial number,If they refuse to fix it then I will tell them about the weak ass wifi or something
Even if u say somethimg is wrong w it they will still charge u the out of warranty fee.....they will read a long script asking u if there's any missing parts or liquid damage if u say no and have them send u a replacement phone u are agreeing to the out of warranty fee.....u will see it on ur bill and its not refundable!
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The only way you will be able to get a replacement from htc is if they lost your phone. the repair center lost my vodafone branded sensation. so htc are now sending out a brand new unbranded sensation to replace it.

[TIP] Do NOT use the official S-OFF method!

Don't know if someone posted this before but:
As the title says, do NOT use the stock unlock method if you ever think you'll need a warranty replacement, they store your serial number after using the tool, this means that they know your warranty is voided. By using the official tool you're basically guaranteeing you won't be able to get a warranty replacement.
Ohhhhh Thank kuuuuuu
This is OLD news my friend. If you read the HTC website terms before using it (which you SHOULD be doing), you will see it states that your warranty is effected.
The problem with this is how does rooting alone void your warranty. Say you just want an unlocked phone for the sake of having an unlocked phone. That alone shouldn't void your warranty.
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ibsk8 said:
The problem with this is how does rooting alone void your warranty. Say you just want an unlocked phone for the sake of having an unlocked phone. That alone shouldn't void your warranty.
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Same logic as buying drugs for the sake of having them...
Matt
ibsk8 said:
The problem with this is how does rooting alone void your warranty. Say you just want an unlocked phone for the sake of having an unlocked phone. That alone shouldn't void your warranty.
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LOL. Please. As if HTC shouldn't do anything to your warranty simply because you "may" want to unlock it just to unlock it. They should be cool with it just because maybe .1% of people do it just to do it.
I had my turbocharged car chipped just to, you know, do it. Not because I want to drive fast or anything.
I've done repairs on my Nexus One (dust) with an unlocked bootloader. Not at first but that's because i sent it in with CM. They sent it back to me and I restored it to stock and they fixed it.
If you have an issue that cant be caused by software they should fix it.
Anyone with a Nexus at launch, could you root the phone without the official method? Nope and it was like that for a very long time because there was no incentive, we could root out of the box.
HTC lagged it hard with their method and it defeats the purpose of what they are doing. Who unlocks the phone and doesn't know about XDA?
ibsk8 said:
The problem with this is how does rooting alone void your warranty. Say you just want an unlocked phone for the sake of having an unlocked phone. That alone shouldn't void your warranty.
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There's always a risk involved when flashing something.
ibsk8 said:
The problem with this is how does rooting alone void your warranty. Say you just want an unlocked phone for the sake of having an unlocked phone. That alone shouldn't void your warranty.
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lmao......
the_scotsman said:
This is OLD news my friend. If you read the HTC website terms before using it (which you SHOULD be doing), you will see it states that your warranty is effected.
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Yes it is old news but some ppl either just got here or missed it earlier. Chill out troll
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LOLOL The Scotsman is anything but a troll and this thread is anything but useful. In any case, it actually only voids PARTS of your warranty I.E. if you need a new battery cover or if your volume rocker breaks you won't be up ****'s creek without a paddle.
If you brick your phone, you will be. Not only is this thread redundant, its title is inaccurate and wrong.
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chrisgto4 said:
Yes it is old news but some ppl either just got here or missed it earlier. Chill out troll
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It's also inaccurate. In the U.S. a company can't void your warranty for product modifications made by the user unless those modifications specifically caused the defect.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnuson–Moss_Warranty_Act
And I don't blame HTC for trying to control their warranty costs. If someone unlocks their phone and OC's the chip and fries it or does something else equally stupid the user should have to pay for the repair. You pay to play.
kylez64 said:
I've done repairs on my Nexus One (dust) with an unlocked bootloader. Not at first but that's because i sent it in with CM. They sent it back to me and I restored it to stock and they fixed it.
If you have an issue that cant be caused by software they should fix it.
Anyone with a Nexus at launch, could you root the phone without the official method? Nope and it was like that for a very long time because there was no incentive, we could root out of the box.
HTC lagged it hard with their method and it defeats the purpose of what they are doing. Who unlocks the phone and doesn't know about XDA?
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Haha I sent my Nexus in after restoring to stock, they fixed it and relocked the bootloader.
Next time, I sent it in with CM7, they sent it back with CM7 and they repaired it.
Guys! The HTC Method is ok! Its was the same at the Nexus One! You void your warranty with unlocking but only the software not the hardware! If you flash back to stock and the error is still theire (software related) they will repairit and hardware they will everytime repair...They take no warranty for flashed software that is not authorized by them ... and this is ok!
AND they are not really able to find out if u flashed a bad radio or hboot! when its bricked. they can easily restore your phone!! This warranty thing just that you are aware of bad software!! They will repair your phone if its needed to be!
But it is fair that we brick our devices and they need to repair? No! We buy the phone as it is! Root is a feature that is not mentioned by HTC!!!
MOD EDIT: No swearing - and no, I'm not a troll, so please refrain from calling me one.
Where i called someone a troll? im from germany troll means to me you are a little toy... why i should say this
because of "****ing" ? this was just to underline my fu***** statement
just thought here were no kids that can take my words to the playground ^^
chrisgto4 said:
Yes it is old news but some ppl either just got here or missed it earlier. Chill out troll
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Wow, your mod is a troll?
BarryH_GEG said:
It's also inaccurate. In the U.S. a company can't void your warranty for product modifications made by the user unless those modifications specifically caused the defect.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnuson–Moss_Warranty_Act
And I don't blame HTC for trying to control their warranty costs. If someone unlocks their phone and OC's the chip and fries it or does something else equally stupid the user should have to pay for the repair. You pay to play.
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Well HTC still state on their website that the warranty is affected:
Please note that changing your bootloader can cause significant issues with your device and once you have unlocked your device, you have agreed to the disclaimer that states a change in warranty status such that in the event you render your device unusable, you are responsible for the recovery of your device, whether by repair or by other means.
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Pretty clear cut to me.
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Well HTC still state on their website that the warranty is affected:
Pretty clear cut to me.
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1) You brick your phone doing stupid stuff - HTC's not going to fix it.
2) You're unlocked and running a custom ROM and your display dies - HTC will fix it.
What they're saying is inline with what I originally posted. They'll repair a warrantied defect on the phone provided that unlocking it didn't cause the defect. Their statement pretty clearly infers they won't fix a bricked phone for free. It doesn't say your warranty is void if you unlock the phone and it has an unrelated defect. In the U.S., they couldn't say that if they wanted to.

[Q] Smartphone Overheated. Guarantee?

Hello,
If I overuse/overclock my SGS2 so that it overheats and breaks, can i use the guarentee?
greetz
P.S:. on the mobile is a custom ROM but the download counter is on 0.
what do you mean?
u wanted to ask the same?
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what do you mean?
u wanted to ask the same?
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Correct me if I'm mistaken, but to overclock ( since I never did it on the phone ) you need to be rooted.And rooting your phone voids your warranty.So the answer is no.If you ever have to use your guarantee you better get jig.Or you can just flashback your stock firmware with its kernel. A friend of mine told me that if this is done without jig they still have a way to see that you tried to lie to them.
But staying with stock roms/kernels for 2 years (in my case) is bull.And you cant even tell if something will break in those two years.. And even if it did, what would it cost you?20 bux..The advantages you get from flashing new roms and kernels worth more than 20 bux in my opinion.Hope I answered to your question.
ty for your reply.
Yes i have a JIG and I used it to reset.
What do you mean with 20 bux??
warranty is for free ?!?!
or did i missunderstood you?
enlyuir clean
TrollinGod said:
ty for your reply.
Yes i have a JIG and I used it to reset.
What do you mean with 20 bux??
warranty is for free ?!?!
or did i missunderstood you?
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Yes, it is for free.
I meant it like if your microphone gets broken and they dont count your warranty because its their right to believe that this bug may come from the rom you flashed..In most cases they will be wrong but who am I to judge them.
So they will ask you to pay for the repair, which will probably be around 20 bux, thats what I meant.
I'm more concerned in my phone falling out of my pocket and cracking the screen, where the warranty wont help me at all..
So as I said... What are the odds that something will get broken.
I'm 17 years old and I have changed 3 or 4 phones and I have never used my warranty.

Have to return A2 for replacement, question about bootstrap

So, I bricked my last A2 and had it replaced and the one they gave me is horrific (bunch of issues...). Anyway, I know I have to unroot, they will most certainly detect that. However, What about bootstrap? Do you think they will notice that when they bring it to the back to do their "troubleshooting"? Because I was just planning on unrooting and then uninstalling bootstrap app (incase they know what that is, i know that that wont remove they bootstrap). So, what are your opinions on that?
Fzx back to stock.
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tmease1 said:
Fzx back to stock.
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Yeah thats never worked out well for me...
okachowwa said:
So, I bricked my last A2 and had it replaced and the one they gave me is horrific (bunch of issues...). Anyway, I know I have to unroot, they will most certainly detect that. However, What about bootstrap? Do you think they will notice that when they bring it to the back to do their "troubleshooting"? Because I was just planning on unrooting and then uninstalling bootstrap app (incase they know what that is, i know that that wont remove they bootstrap). So, what are your opinions on that?
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Throw it in a microwave to kill it so it wont turn on.
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matt99017d said:
Throw it in a microwave to kill it so it wont turn on.
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Ever since I bought a Moto phone I feel the need to do that every day
okachowwa said:
Ever since I bought a Moto phone I feel the need to do that every day
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Lol.
Me too.....
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matt99017d said:
Lol.
Me too.....
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Horrible mistake. Live and Learn...unless youre a sophmore who doesnt have any money and is stuck with it for another year...omg.
okachowwa said:
Horrible mistake. Live and Learn...unless youre a sophmore who doesnt have any money and is stuck with it for another year...omg.
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My case lol
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Not sure if I'm completely off topic but don't want to start a new thread either: so does AT&T/Motorola salvage the bricked phones returned/exchanged under warranty? I understand if you microwave it, it's gone for good, but otherwise do they have a way to salvage a phone with hosed bootloader or hard bricking? Will it require special hardware setup to recover these phones? I am sure bricking would be a common phenomena in Moto's lab ...
OMG, just took a look at your sign - okachowwa - your smartphone's histories usage so terrible ...
vinamilk said:
OMG, just took a look at your sign - okachowwa - your smartphone's histories usage so terrible ...
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Dude's also only 15, which it states as well, and to cut the kid some slack!
Launched from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I747 Anti-MOTO Ballistic Missile
vinamilk said:
OMG, just took a look at your sign - okachowwa - your smartphone's histories usage so terrible ...
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Hey now lol. I try I try. I totally fixed my Captivate...after I bought this AWESOME phone. But I didn't brick this one, it was a bad replacement, and my last one, yeah FXZ confused me so my ignorance overtook my ability to fix it, because I couldnt find the files on the forums (links were down) and flashed wrong ones (live and learn?). But yes, being a sophmore in high school I probably shouldn't being doing this stuff as I don't have any money lol.
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Not sure if I'm completely off topic but don't want to start a new thread either: so does AT&T/Motorola salvage the bricked phones returned/exchanged under warranty? I understand if you microwave it, it's gone for good, but otherwise do they have a way to salvage a phone with hosed bootloader or hard bricking? Will it require special hardware setup to recover these phones? I am sure bricking would be a common phenomena in Moto's lab ...
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Yes, unless the EMMC is corrupted beyond redemption they have special flashing tools to restore phones to a usable condition. Just think about when the phone is made; it is a blank slate. They have to have a way to flash it initially. They can use a similar method to resurrect it if it is not damaged beyond repair.
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Yes, unless the EMMC is corrupted beyond redemption they have special flashing tools to restore phones to a usable condition.
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Hmmm ... that's exactly is my point; if it is all software, why doesn't it leak like RSDlite? Then users could recover these bricked phones themselves and no need of these warranty calls. It must be some special hardware (to be connected to JTAG?) which even our service centers do not have available. Then we could take our out of warranty phones to them and get it restored for a small fee. Now if I take a bricked phone to them, they change the motherboard and charge ~30% of the phone value.
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Hmmm ... that's exactly is my point; if it is all software, why doesn't it leak like RSDlite? Then users could recover these bricked phones themselves and no need of these warranty calls. It must be some special hardware (to be connected to JTAG?) which even our service centers do not have available. Then we could take our out of warranty phones to them and get it restored for a small fee. Now if I take a bricked phone to them, they change the motherboard and charge ~30% of the phone value.
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That is because there is an efuse that was blown as part of this process, and you can't unblow a fuse/efuse. That is why you are getting new boards. I was at one the AT&T service centers last week and we looked at one of the bricks, and it did throw 2 efuses that I could find. We could connect them to JTAG with the correct connetions, but we could NOT see the phone from the JTAG device/software.
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That is because there is an efuse that was blown as part of this process, and you can't unblow a fuse/efuse. That is why you are getting new boards. I was at one the AT&T service centers last week and we looked at one of the bricks, and it did throw 2 efuses that I could find. We could connect them to JTAG with the correct connetions, but we could NOT see the phone from the JTAG device/software.
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Is it not an inefficient (or dangerous (or suicidal)) design that if you overwrite the bootloader (even by an older version) then a efuse blows somewhere and the motherboard becomes useless. You may refuse to boot if the bootloader isn't trusted but killing the phone in the process sounds too bad to me. Would this happen with phones with unlocked bootloader too?
kousik said:
Is it not an inefficient (or dangerous (or suicidal)) design that if you overwrite the bootloader (even by an older version) then a efuse blows somewhere and the motherboard becomes useless. You may refuse to boot if the bootloader isn't trusted but killing the phone in the process sounds too bad to me. Would this happen with phones with unlocked bootloader too?
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No, this is a Motorola ONLY thing, as inefficient as it might be. There is no need for anything like is in a unlocked bootloader phone. This happens because these phones are just like iphones in that Motorola does NOT want us "playing" with them, or doing any kind of dev work on them, Moto phones have a HUGE history of being non developer friendly. That is also why certain devs like me find them a challenge and want to "breakthrough" all that.
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No, this is a Motorola ONLY thing, as inefficient as it might be. There is no need for anything like is in a unlocked bootloader phone.
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Well, except their managers we all see how it backfired. It doesn't interfere with people who wants to stay stock, and if it gets bricked doing some dev, they get a warranty call (and maybe they have to swap in 90% cases). Doesn't help anyone.
However I had a Milestone before (why did I buy another Moto afterwards questions my sanity) but even if it had a locked bootloader (and after stock 2.1 no update was given), devs could port froyo and finally CM7 and CM9. I am hoping in spite of the lock, we'll be able to port CM9/10, keeping the kernel same. I am hopeful as LG Thrill 4G, Motorola Droid 3 has CM9 already.
Well I'm offtopic already so don't bother replying

Unlocking bootloaders voids warranty in USA?

I find people saying otherwise but from what I can tell according to HTC's warranty statement, and calling in and speaking to a customer service rep, the warranty is void if the bootloaders are unlocked. Does anyone have any info contrary to this?
Guess I'm sticking to my pixel xl
All over the product page for the U11 it declares that unlocking the boot loader doesn't void the warranty. Htc Dev hasn't caught up to reflect this.
Do you have a link? When I checked their product page I don't see anything about the warranty not being voided...
Cannot find it on the page from mobile browser (or they have removed it) but quick Google search shows it:
Yeah looks like they removed it, it's not there even on a computer. That's interesting
Yeah I remember seeing it on htc website before. Now it's gone.
They have removed it in last few days, on 5th it was still there
https://web.archive.org/web/20170705062532/http://www.htc.com/us/go/htc-u11-unlocked/
That's so strange... I know their warranty for devices since 2016 states that unlocking the bootloaders will void the warranty.
Just like they edited out band 4 support on the Verizon specifications. Bummer
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Confirmed on chat with HTC rep - warranty is void is bootloader unlocked. She checked with HTCDev and RMA departments (at least she claims)
found this also - https://web.archive.org/web/20170625092106/https://www.htcdev.com/
Clearly shows HTC U11 with warranty and bootloader unlock.
someone should forward this to one of the big time bloggers, looks like HTC is trying to pull a fast one ugh
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someone should forward this to one of the big time bloggers, looks like HTC is trying to pull a fast one ugh
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https://www.xda-developers.com/htc-updates-bootloader-unlock-warranty-messages-on-device-pages/
Do I count
in_dmand said:
someone should forward this to one of the big time bloggers, looks like HTC is trying to pull a fast one ugh
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I also hit up HTCUSA and AndroidPolice on twitter.
Nevermind
When we get s off can we just lock it back and htc not know we unlocked it??
Lostatsea23 said:
When we get s off can we just lock it back and htc not know we unlocked it??
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Doubt it... you have to get the unlock binary blob from HTCDev, right?
Nevermind
Question regarding the warranty. If I unlock the bootloader and then decide to return the phone within the normal 30 day return period will they accept it? Or does voiding the warranty also void the return policy?
nike1172 said:
Question regarding the warranty. If I unlock the bootloader and then decide to return the phone within the normal 30 day return period will they accept it? Or does voiding the warranty also void the return policy?
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It probably depends on where you bought it honestly. HTC themselves may check but I doubt a retailer like Amazon would, or even know how to tell.
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riggsandroid said:
Confirmed on chat with HTC rep - warranty is void is bootloader unlocked. She checked with HTCDev and RMA departments (at least she claims)
found this also - https://web.archive.org/web/20170625092106/https://www.htcdev.com/
Clearly shows HTC U11 with warranty and bootloader unlock.
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I'm gonna keep screenshots of these just in case I have to fight with them on warranty issues. Although they have always said warranty is void but never had any issues with it. They never even mention it on the phone when getting a replacement.

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