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hi guys simple question bc my software is still 1.73.502.1, all i've done is root my device so i can grab some apps and get titanium backup to uninstall some bloatware.
my question is there's lots of talk about 1.85 and i'm wondering why i haven't gotten the auto-update yet. can you confirm its bc at&t hasn't sent the 1.85 OTA update yet, and not bc i rooted my device thus negating any auto software updates? sorry if this is a dumb question.
There are no OTA updates as of yet. Those on 1.85 are on it because they ran the leaked RUU.
Unless you know what you're doing don't bother updating to .85 because you can lose all root/bootloader/CID to let you do as you please because theres no current exploit. Its also been reported by people [and me] that you get lower CPU benchmark scores via Quadrant for example, although a faster / snappier phone. A couple people have also said its more sluggish now for them but I believe thats based on what they have running [I use one home screen + no widgets].
thank you very much. will an unlocked boot and s-off phone still receive updates as well from AT&T both software and android updates?
chillsen said:
thank you very much. will an unlocked boot and s-off phone still receive updates as well from AT&T both software and android updates?
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We won't know for sure what will happen until AT&T releases it.
Best practice is to not OTA update until the devs have had a crack at it and we know what's what.
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We won't know for sure what will happen until AT&T releases it.
Best practice is to not OTA update until the devs have had a crack at it and we know what's what.
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thank you for that key info. will not be ota'ing until xda squad cracks it alllll!
Basically ... NO!
chillsen said:
hi guys simple question bc my software is still 1.73.502.1, all i've done is root my device so i can grab some apps and get titanium backup to uninstall some bloatware.
my question is there's lots of talk about 1.85 and i'm wondering why i haven't gotten the auto-update yet. can you confirm its bc at&t hasn't sent the 1.85 OTA update yet, and not bc i rooted my device thus negating any auto software updates? sorry if this is a dumb question.
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Basically, once you root your phone, or change the CID, you will never again be able to get OTA up-dates. Sorry.
Peter
P.S. Then again, I could be wrong ... but that's what I've been led to believe.
Is it safe to assume, that if people who flashed leaked ruu's don't get ota's then some of the devs will release ruu's of the newest ota's ?
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Basically, once you root your phone, or change the CID, you will never again be able to get OTA up-dates. Sorry.
Peter
P.S. Then again, I could be wrong ... but that's what I've been led to believe.
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That would make the existence of this app a bit hard to explain, then.
All this info going around is very confusing for me...Basically i started on 1.73 (rooted)....ran 1.82 (rooted)....ran 1.85 (stuck).....anything i can do?.....i never unlocked any bootloader....i just liike the idea of root to get rid of bloat......
I know the feeling
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All this info going around is very confusing for me...Basically i started on 1.73 (rooted)....ran 1.82 (rooted)....ran 1.85 (stuck).....anything i can do?.....i never unlocked any bootloader....i just liike the idea of root to get rid of bloat......
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Same with me - waiting for root for 1.85 - nothing much we can do at this point! Sounds like there are quite a few of us stuck in Limbo.
Just keep watching the forums and waiting for Root!
Mike
Not really ...
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That would make the existence of this app a bit hard to explain, then.
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Not really. That app is not compatible with the ONE X.
Peter
PeterHTC said:
Not really. That app is not compatible with the ONE X.
Peter
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So you're suggesting that the root = no OTA is One X (or HTC) specific? Where did you hear that?
FWIW, I've got that app installed and it successfully saved a su copy.
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Not really. That app is not compatible with the ONE X.
Peter
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Sorry, but you are wrong. If you are rooted and nothing else, you CAN and will receive OTA updates, for most devices. I've heard many accounts of people being rooted and then updating OTA and losing root, and getting it back after a while after a new exploit was found. Now, if you use custom ROMs or anything, that changes things, but just rooting doesn't do anything. Think about it, you aren't changing the ROM or the way it connects to AT&T's servers. You are just exploiting a vulnerability and gaining root access. Now, AT&T may have found a way to detect root, but as far as I know they don't and with only a root, OTA updates can be installed. Although any post-root modification might screw that up.
Could someone please chime in on the new OTA from Verizon? These threads are all misleading, some say it will brick if the bootloader is unlocked, which mine is, and others say just Odin back to stock and accept the OTA. I'm very weary of accepting the OTA with so many mixed opinions. It's like fishing for a strait answer in a sea of bull****. Is it worth taking the risk? I've never received a sim notification like others, is that all the OTA addresses? Does it improve the 4G reception at all? Thanks.
I don't think this topic should have another thread. Plus that's the wrong section to ask...
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Could someone please chime in on the new OTA from Verizon? These threads are all misleading, some say it will brick if the bootloader is unlocked, which mine is, and others say just Odin back to stock and accept the OTA. I'm very weary of accepting the OTA with so many mixed opinions. It's like fishing for a strait answer in a sea of bull****. Is it worth taking the risk? I've never received a sim notification like others, is that all the OTA addresses? Does it improve the 4G reception at all? Thanks.
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Just go here and flash the radio.
http://rootzwiki.com/topic/34053-of...zon-sgs3-sch-i535-odin-or-recovery-flashable/
Problem solved.
Zalithian said:
Just go here and flash the radio.
http://rootzwiki.com/topic/34053-of...zon-sgs3-sch-i535-odin-or-recovery-flashable/
Problem solved.
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Thanks a bunch. Any word on it improving reception? Or is it just a sim fix? Mods please feel free to delete this thread.
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Thanks a bunch. Any word on it improving reception? Or is it just a sim fix? Mods please feel free to delete this thread.
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My signal is more or less the same, maybe a tad better. I was a victim of the no sim problem though, so even if no signal boost - worth it for me.
Okay seriously there have been at least a million threads about the update. So here are the tips:
1. Do not EVER under any circumstance accept an OTA update from verizon. Wait until it's been incorporated into whatever rom your running, or for a rooted version to be released. OTA updates have the possibility of causing headaches, and its just not worth it.
2. Make sure you have a custom recovery installed so that an OTA update can not be flashed on accident. If you have rooted your phone, take two seconds to download EZ Recovery from the market and flash one of those recoveries, even if you plan on staying with stock rooted, its better to have that anyways.
3. If your looking for radios, just wait for them to be pulled out and then flash them separately.
Anyways, like i said flashing an official OTA update may cause a wide variety of issues, so just don't do it
I was rooted, but running still running stock. The update wouldn't install because of the modified structure of my stock rom with the root. (I used the original root method of flashing with Odin) So to try to get the update I used Odin to go back to the original, non-rooted, stock. After I was back on that, I could install the new OTA update painlessly. In retrospect, I probably shouldn't have. I had no issues with my phone before. I may see a little signal improvement, but that's probably just more mental. I have noticed that my phone lags a little more now, so I wouldn't recommend updating unless you absolutely need to. That's just my 2 cents...
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My signal is more or less the same, maybe a tad better. I was a victim of the no sim problem though, so even if no signal boost - worth it for me.
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I installed the update in hopes that the "no sim" problem was corrected, but nope the problem is still there.
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My wife recently updated her phone via wifi to JB from ICS and her phone is damn near unusable. She wants to throw it out on the freeway. Her phone since the update is sluggish, and a constant headache for her. Her phone is stock, and unrooted. Do I need to root it in order to go back to ICS? Sorry in advance if this has been asked before.
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My wife recently updated her phone via wifi to JB from ICS and her phone is damn near unusable. She wants to throw it out on the freeway. Her phone since the update is sluggish, and a constant headache for her. Her phone is stock, and unrooted. Do I need to root it in order to go back to ICS? Sorry in advance if this has been asked before.
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You could flash in an ICS factory image using the built-in recovery (or at least I seem to remember doing something like it). But before anything, you need to know which variant of the phone you're dealing with (i9020a/i9020t/i9023/etc.) Just turn off the phone and check below the battery for the exact model. Once you have that, I (or somebody else around here) can link you to the right image for the device. :laugh:
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You could flash in an ICS factory image using the built-in recovery (or at least I seem to remember doing something like it). But before anything, you need to know which variant of the phone you're dealing with (i9020a/i9020t/i9023/etc.) Just turn off the phone and check below the battery for the exact model. Once you have that, I (or somebody else around here) can link you to the right image for the device. :laugh:
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Sorry about the missing info. Her phone is the NS4G model SPH-D720. Hope that may help.. Thanks for the reply Night.
SouthStockton said:
Sorry about the missing info. Her phone is the NS4G model SPH-D720. Hope that may help.. Thanks for the reply Night.
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Oh, there seem to be no full recovery-flashable images for the NS4G. You could install a full image using fastboot but that would require unlocking your phone's bootloader (which more or less voids any warranty) and would also wipe all the data. If you're not particularly attached to all the data in the phone, you could try a factory reset to see if JB problems get resolved. Otherwise, maybe some other forum member might have a better idea.
OK, thank you. I'm about to go to sleep, and I'll ask her in the morning how she feels about the phone being wiped. In the meantime, maybe others can shed some info also. Again, thanks for the replies.
My wife and I both have the NS4g from Sprint, but our approach as to how we use the device is very different. She doesn't like change, simply wants the parts of the system that she uses, to work ... mainly tethering, mms, camera, phone. If your wife is anything like mine ... make your life a little easier, and just root the phone. It will give you so much more flexibility and choices. About a week ago, OMJ posted a stock, rooted rom in the NS4g development thread that would be perfect for her. It's all there ... smooth ... quick ... everything works.
i think before trying anything that could avoid your warranty you should do a factory reset ... it probably could solve all your wife issues ... it will just delete all your app but not photo or documents ( unless you select that option ) and you could after reinstall just the really needed apps your wife need ...
@wmdunn - She mainly uses her camera as well.
@kriout - doing a factory reset will still give her back JB tho wouldn't it? I'll ask her just to try it, and if it still runs slow, I guess root it?
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@wmdunn - She mainly uses her camera as well.
@kriout - doing a factory reset will still give her back JB tho wouldn't it? I'll ask her just to try it, and if it still runs slow, I guess root it?
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The camera software in JB is really nice. As for rooting ... I have rooted every phone we've owned, and never had any problem with warranty issues. The rooted versions of the stock JB rom are smoother and quicker than the ota.
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The camera software in JB is really nice. As for rooting ... I have rooted every phone we've owned, and never had any problem with warranty issues. The rooted versions of the stock JB rom are smoother and quicker than the ota.
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reinstall the stock image via fastboot, u will get a buttery smooth experience
Unfortunately, she is going to just deal with it and doesn't want to redo all the game play she has worked for for the last year. Thank you for all your input, I'll be sure to recheck this thread should she change her mind and re-read your help.
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reinstall the stock image via fastboot, u will get a buttery smooth experience
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To do that via fastboot, Would I have to root?
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No just an unlocked bootloader (wont void your warranty)
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"You're either NEXUS or against us!"
Hello all, I know that att's 4.2 update came out January 29, and it's been longer than 1 month, yet my phone still has not gotten the OTA update. nothing comes up for both system updates or software updates in my settings, and my phone is not rooted. any other possible solutions since i dislike updating through PC?
Check out this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2628920
But if you ever want to unlock your bootloader and root your phone you need to do it before taking the update.
Sent from my Evita
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Check out this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2628920
But if you ever want to unlock your bootloader and root your phone you need to do it before taking the update.
Sent from my Evita
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one more thing. will i lose all my data from that method?
p.s.
mark my words, if it were my phone, i would know how to update this phone easily. but it's my brothers haha.
It shouldn't wipe any data but make backups just in case. If it's your brother's phone then he should be doing the work, I don't assist when the person who owns the phone isn't willing to do the learning and the work.
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Hi Guys,
I've been doing searches on here all night and I'm more confused than ever.
I just got a like new m8 that's still on 4.4.2.
I just rooted it with weaksauce. I would like to update to 5.0.1 and be able to root. I'm not sure if I need for s-off or unlocked bootloader, but I think I read some of these should be done before updating to lollipop.
I was planning to update with the ruu update from HTC website.
I think I read that I can't do the ruu update if I'm unlocked or s-off, but I can't unlock or s-off after updating to 5.0.1
Can someone who knows what's up with this clarify things for me? I don't want to update without being sure I have everything set right in advance.
notslow1 said:
Hi Guys,
I've been doing searches on here all night and I'm more confused than ever.
I just got a like new m8 that's still on 4.4.2.
I just rooted it with weaksauce. I would like to update to 5.0.1 and be able to root. I'm not sure if I need for s-off or unlocked bootloader, but I think I read some of these should be done before updating to lollipop.
I was planning to update with the ruu update from HTC website.
I think I read that I can't do the ruu update if I'm unlocked or s-off, but I can't unlock or s-off after updating to 5.0.1
Can someone who knows what's up with this clarify things for me? I don't want to update without being sure I have everything set right in advance.
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Get s-off first. You can do any of the ruu I have posted while s-off. HTC also doesn't post Verizon ruu on their website. Now hit therootninja.com before its too late.
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Cool, thanks for the info.
Wow, I just went to get the s-off software, 25.00 That's the most expensive phone software I've seen. I don't mind paying for software, but is there any other option that is less expensive? I just got my girlfriend an m8 too and doing this twice is going to be a big investment.
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Get s-off first. You can do any of the ruu I have posted while s-off. HTC also doesn't post Verizon ruu on their website. Now hit therootninja.com before its too late.
Sent from my Nexus 6 using Tapatalk
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notslow1 said:
Cool, thanks for the info.
Wow, I just went to get the s-off software, 25.00 That's the most expensive phone software I've seen. I don't mind paying for software, but is there any other option that is less expensive? I just got my girlfriend an m8 too and doing this twice is going to be a big investment.
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Zero other options. If you want root on your phone it's your only option.
Sent from my Nexus 6 using Tapatalk
Maybe I'll just stick with kit Kat for now since it's easy to root with weak sauce. Any way to stop an ota update? I haven't got one yet.
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Maybe I'll just stick with kit Kat for now since it's easy to root with weak sauce. Any way to stop an ota update? I haven't got one yet.
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I would S-OFF on KK then take the OTA to 5.0.1
That sounds like good advice and what I would do if it wasn't going to cost 50 to s-off our two phones. Our budget is tight after just buying phones at 150 bucks each. So until there is a less expensive s-off method I think were stuck with rooted Kit Kat. We just need root for basic stuff like titanium backup and to turn on tethering (which I hope I can do on this phone).
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That sounds like good advice and what I would do if it wasn't going to cost 50 to s-off our two phones. Our budget is tight after just buying phones at 150 bucks each. So until there is a less expensive s-off method I think were stuck with rooted Kit Kat. We just need root for basic stuff like titanium backup and to turn on tethering (which I hope I can do on this phone).
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You do realize that without s-off your root will be pretty worthless for most things thanks to write protection in place right?
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I was not aware of that. Will I not be able to use titanium backup to restore my apps and data? How about unlocking tethering?
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I was not aware of that. Will I not be able to use titanium backup to restore my apps and data? How about unlocking tethering?
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I'll add to the choir here. Do yourself a favor and get s-off before doing anything. Weaksauce works but the changes only last until you reboot. With s-off, you can do anything. And yes, Titanium Backup will restore your apps and data. As for the tethering, you can flash a rom that has it enabled or you can just run stock and "unlock" it yourself. It's a simple edit of a file. It's well worth the $25 it costs. Do it if you can.
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I was not aware of that. Will I not be able to use titanium backup to restore my apps and data? How about unlocking tethering?
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We are all new at some point in time and if there is anything I can suggest it is to listen to dottat. The kat knows his biz.
That $50 you "can't afford" . When you take one of those OTA updates unintentionally and then realize that not even $5000 can get you the s-off you so desperately desire for TB, tethering, or whatever your fancy is....it's pennies my good friend. You are so very lucky to be on KK, as that can still be dealt with. LP is another animal. To my knowledge there has been no way to get s-off/unlock bootloader. Take it form me, a flash junkie - you want s-off. You want an unlocked bootloader. You want root. Once you have it you never go back.
Otherwise you should have gotten an iphone.
These words are not to meant to condescend or talk down, it is to encourage you to take what you can while you still can.
I just found this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/verizon-htc-one-m8/help/verizon-htc-one-m8-lollipop-root-t3072841/page5
So it looks like you can get root on lollipop now.
If I am rooted by this method and S-on can I use titanium backup for full backups and restoring apps? Also, can I turn on tethering with sqlite editor. Or will I still need S-off to do these two things?
I doubt I'll be changing roms or anything advanced, just need my Titanium Backup and tethering.
I also see that Sunshine now supports lollipop, so if I do decide I need it later, I guess I can always do it later.
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I just found this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/ver...rizon-htc-one-m8-lollipop-root-t3072841/page5
So it looks like you can get root on lollipop now.
If I am rooted by this method and S-on can I use titanium backup for full backups and restoring apps? Also, can I turn on tethering with sqlite editor. Or will I still need S-off to do these two things?
I doubt I'll be changing roms or anything advanced, just need my Titanium Backup and tethering.
I also see that Sunshine now supports lollipop, so if I do decide I need it later, I guess I can always do it later.
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You won't be able to do what you want.
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Originally Posted by notslow1
I just found this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/veri...t3072841/page5
So it looks like you can get root on lollipop now.
If I am rooted by this method and S-on can I use titanium backup for full backups and restoring apps? Also, can I turn on tethering with sqlite editor. Or will I still need S-off to do these two things?
I doubt I'll be changing roms or anything advanced, just need my Titanium Backup and tethering.
I also see that Sunshine now supports lollipop, so if I do decide I need it later, I guess I can always do it later.
I'm not sure how you got that out of the last sentence ....Did you read all of the post? :
"We do not currently Support the VERIZON HTC M9, nor Verizon m8 running 5.0.x (4.4.4 and below are good to go). We are working it, no ETAs, no HINTS, NO DETAILS, NO UPDATES!! Please don't ask about it"
Your phones are yours to do with as you choose of course, but if you want to take advantage of TB and tethering in the manner in which you hope to, you'll need s-off. As dottat has pointed out once again, and as I've already said, you've come this far and you are lucky enough to have found two phones with the 4.x firmware still on them, you'd be throwing all that away in the HOPES that one day you can get that exploit - and you'll STILL have to pay $25 for it IF they do.
I read that there was S-off support for lollipop at the top of this post in red lettering http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2792487
Am I reading it wrong? It's confusing because below that it says "We do not currently Support the VERIZON HTC M9, nor Verizon m8 running 5.0.x (4.4.4 and below are good to go). We are working it, no ETAs, no HINTS, NO DETAILS, NO UPDATES!! Please don't ask about it"
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I read that there was S-off support for lollipop at the top of this post in red lettering http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2792487
Am I reading it wrong? It's confusing because below that it says "We do not currently Support the VERIZON HTC M9, nor Verizon m8 running 5.0.x (4.4.4 and below are good to go). We are working it, no ETAs, no HINTS, NO DETAILS, NO UPDATES!! Please don't ask about it"
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The sunshine app itself does not officially support it. You must get root first via the kingroot...which is fairly unstable root. It takes a number of tries which for most people is tough.
You are really setting out on a tough path if you don't at least get yours s-off.
We have already given you enough justification at this point I believe you simply need to make a decision and go with it.
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The sunshine app itself does not officially support it. You must get root first via the kingroot...which is fairly unstable root. It takes a number of tries which for most people is tough.
You are really setting out on a tough path if you don't at least get yours s-off.
We have already given you enough justification at this point I believe you simply need to make a decision and go with it.
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! What he said!
Both the M8 and M9 are unleashed after you have them S-0ffed. In addition to getting Wifi Tether,
you can modify things like Power Saver settings and other fun things. You can experiment with things
safely and obtain a faster phone that gets better battery life than bloated stock.
Devs post great custom roms that you can sample. Honestly, I like the 'new' look of my phone rotating
thru the different roms available here on xda.
Def worth the effort to S-0ff.
I got both phones S-off this week. I'm going to install dottat's prerooted 5.0.1 on them now. Crossing my fingers that I do it right.
Just want to thank everyone that posted for the great advice.
Me and my girlfriend can't wait to get on some modern phones, we're using droid 4 and droid razr that are grinding to a halt and barely function.