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hi guys simple question bc my software is still 1.73.502.1, all i've done is root my device so i can grab some apps and get titanium backup to uninstall some bloatware.
my question is there's lots of talk about 1.85 and i'm wondering why i haven't gotten the auto-update yet. can you confirm its bc at&t hasn't sent the 1.85 OTA update yet, and not bc i rooted my device thus negating any auto software updates? sorry if this is a dumb question.
There are no OTA updates as of yet. Those on 1.85 are on it because they ran the leaked RUU.
Unless you know what you're doing don't bother updating to .85 because you can lose all root/bootloader/CID to let you do as you please because theres no current exploit. Its also been reported by people [and me] that you get lower CPU benchmark scores via Quadrant for example, although a faster / snappier phone. A couple people have also said its more sluggish now for them but I believe thats based on what they have running [I use one home screen + no widgets].
thank you very much. will an unlocked boot and s-off phone still receive updates as well from AT&T both software and android updates?
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thank you very much. will an unlocked boot and s-off phone still receive updates as well from AT&T both software and android updates?
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We won't know for sure what will happen until AT&T releases it.
Best practice is to not OTA update until the devs have had a crack at it and we know what's what.
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We won't know for sure what will happen until AT&T releases it.
Best practice is to not OTA update until the devs have had a crack at it and we know what's what.
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thank you for that key info. will not be ota'ing until xda squad cracks it alllll!
Basically ... NO!
chillsen said:
hi guys simple question bc my software is still 1.73.502.1, all i've done is root my device so i can grab some apps and get titanium backup to uninstall some bloatware.
my question is there's lots of talk about 1.85 and i'm wondering why i haven't gotten the auto-update yet. can you confirm its bc at&t hasn't sent the 1.85 OTA update yet, and not bc i rooted my device thus negating any auto software updates? sorry if this is a dumb question.
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Basically, once you root your phone, or change the CID, you will never again be able to get OTA up-dates. Sorry.
Peter
P.S. Then again, I could be wrong ... but that's what I've been led to believe.
Is it safe to assume, that if people who flashed leaked ruu's don't get ota's then some of the devs will release ruu's of the newest ota's ?
Sent from my HTC One X using XDA
PeterHTC said:
Basically, once you root your phone, or change the CID, you will never again be able to get OTA up-dates. Sorry.
Peter
P.S. Then again, I could be wrong ... but that's what I've been led to believe.
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That would make the existence of this app a bit hard to explain, then.
All this info going around is very confusing for me...Basically i started on 1.73 (rooted)....ran 1.82 (rooted)....ran 1.85 (stuck).....anything i can do?.....i never unlocked any bootloader....i just liike the idea of root to get rid of bloat......
I know the feeling
patstock11 said:
All this info going around is very confusing for me...Basically i started on 1.73 (rooted)....ran 1.82 (rooted)....ran 1.85 (stuck).....anything i can do?.....i never unlocked any bootloader....i just liike the idea of root to get rid of bloat......
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Same with me - waiting for root for 1.85 - nothing much we can do at this point! Sounds like there are quite a few of us stuck in Limbo.
Just keep watching the forums and waiting for Root!
Mike
Not really ...
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That would make the existence of this app a bit hard to explain, then.
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Not really. That app is not compatible with the ONE X.
Peter
PeterHTC said:
Not really. That app is not compatible with the ONE X.
Peter
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So you're suggesting that the root = no OTA is One X (or HTC) specific? Where did you hear that?
FWIW, I've got that app installed and it successfully saved a su copy.
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Not really. That app is not compatible with the ONE X.
Peter
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Sorry, but you are wrong. If you are rooted and nothing else, you CAN and will receive OTA updates, for most devices. I've heard many accounts of people being rooted and then updating OTA and losing root, and getting it back after a while after a new exploit was found. Now, if you use custom ROMs or anything, that changes things, but just rooting doesn't do anything. Think about it, you aren't changing the ROM or the way it connects to AT&T's servers. You are just exploiting a vulnerability and gaining root access. Now, AT&T may have found a way to detect root, but as far as I know they don't and with only a root, OTA updates can be installed. Although any post-root modification might screw that up.
The latest OTA update has made my phone useless as a
phone, as it now gets no mobile reception...
Is there a way to reverse this upgrade?
My other option is a custom ROM, but i would prefer to stay stock at the moment if at all possible.
you can always run an RUU - One that doesnt contain the update
I was just educating myself on RUUs.
does it matter which one i run? i think my phone is unlocked/unbranded (i bought it second hand) but i'm not sure
EDIT: Nevermind, i checked my baseband against the list of RUUs and found that it is in fact unbranded. Now i know which one to get... just need FileFsctory to let me get it...
which is it you need ? Chances are there's a mirror somewhere
found a mirror, thanks
back to start... i tried to install the 1.53 version and it game an error 140 (bootloader)
I think its because the OTA updated the bootloader !
you cannot downgrade using RUU unless you have S-OFF
Well, i guess i'll have to root and install a custom ROM.
Thanks for the help!
what part do you want to revert ? The radio update ? Cause if so, there is a way to do this
Yeah, the radio. When i was 0.15 radio it worked, now with 0.16 it doesn't
Ok have a look at this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1684477
I dont think you have to have CWM installed on your device, You just need it on your PC, So you can boot into it.
Thanks! can't seem to find a 0.15 radio though
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The latest OTA update has made my phone useless as a
phone, as it now gets no mobile reception...
Is there a way to reverse this upgrade?
My other option is a custom ROM, but i would prefer to stay stock at the moment if at all possible.
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OP does know the consequences of rooting devices right? It avoids your warrenty.
So just want to make sure, do you not get reception anywhere or only at certain area? If the former, it may indicate a fault on your phone caused by the update and you should not deal with it by rooting cos there is a chance rooting and downgrading may not fix it then you would have no where to go. The right move IMO, is to take the phone back to point of sale and demand an exchange. Most of users like me do not have such problem after update.
Just to remind, if you know what you are doing, by all means.
Sent from my HTC One S using XDA
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Thanks! can't seem to find a 0.15 radio though
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extract it from an ruu
h.han said:
OP does know the consequences of rooting devices right? It avoids your warrenty.
So just want to make sure, do you not get reception anywhere or only at certain area? If the former, it may indicate a fault on your phone caused by the update and you should not deal with it by rooting cos there is a chance rooting and downgrading may not fix it then you would have no where to go. The right move IMO, is to take the phone back to point of sale and demand an exchange. Most of users like me do not have such problem after update.
Just to remind, if you know what you are doing, by all means.
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The point of sale is a few thousand kilometers away
No warranty in my country, so i have to figure this out by myself
I have rooted and installed roms on previous phones, but this one seems more... complicated
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how? (sorry about all of this, but never had an HTC before)
kuroyume_cl said:
how? (sorry about all of this, but never had an HTC before)
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Look here http://www.freeyourandroid.com/guide/extract-rom-from-ruu once extracted the rom.zip, open it up and take out the radio.img.
put it in the place where you keep all your adb stuff. and flash it using the method linked a few posts back
Went though the whole process but baseband version still reads 0.16xxxxxxxx
It doesn't seem to have worked
Well, at this point i'm fairly certain i need to rollback my radio, as i installed CM9 and still no cell signal. I checked and it had the same baseband as the 1.78 ROM.
Okay first off, i know this is the wrong section. I can not post in development because I am new here, but I am in need of help desperately. Okay so I am rooted on 1.85 and the bootloader is NOT unlocked. Well i decided today to take the update to 4.0.4 before I did research. (Stupid me eh?) Well I start the OTA and then do some research. I learn that the update to 4.0.4 might be harmful to rooted users. So I disconnect from WiFi knowing it will pause the download. Well now I have a download that is just paused in the notification bar, and any time i connect to wifi it will continue the download. While the download is paused, can i unroot and take the update safely? I have seriously been searching for hours on end to find someone with a situation that I am in and i can not.
If you do a factory reset the update will go away. But that would also make you loose root. You should unlock the bootloader, then flash the rooted 2.20 update from the dev section.
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Yep, get that bootloader unlocked immediately and flash a rooted stock ROM or a custom ROM. Make sure you backup all your stuff with Titanium because the bootloader unlock will wipe your phone.
Also, just so you know, this thread most definitely did NOT belong in development, which is reserved for ROMs and kernels and root guides and the like ONLY. Threads like this belong in Q+A but nobody is gonna kill you for posting it in General.
After the download, you should get a prompt to either Install, Postpone, or you can press the "back" capacitive button to cancel. Cancel should stop the update notifications. At least this is how its worked on past HTC OTAs. I personally can't verify, as I haven't gotten the notification yet. But others seem to verify this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1817429
But if you want to be safe, you should SuperCID and unlock bootloader first, as others have suggested. Pressing the wrong button for the method I suggested above will be catastrophic otherwise (lose the ability to root and unlock BL).
Thanks for your help guys!
I just did a factory data reset on my phone. Honestly, I've gotten myself into trouble with rooting. I really need to read up before i continue with things of this sort. So since i did a factory data reset, am i 100% unrooted? Will i be safe to take the OTA now? Thanks for your help guys!
If you were stock 1.85, and rooted using the one-click or "manual" method (which you must be, if you you are still BL locked), then you are now unrooted. You are either rooted or not, there is no "percentage" of rooted.
What kind of trouble have you gotten into rooting, and what do you typically use root for?
I've been debating on whether or not to just go ahead and install the OTA to 2.2. The only thing I've used for root was for WiFi-Tether and I don't even use that anymore so I think I don't even necessarily NEED root anymore. I'm just tired of the updater telling me there's a new update to install - frankly very annoying. I've been just using the back capacitive button to cancel it. BUT, the last time I did this when 1.73 went to 1.85, I was just stock rooted, no unlocked BL (just like I am now), when I tried to install the OTA, went to that error with the triangle and exclamation point and wouldn't let me install it. I had to reflash to stock RUU because it was giving me a bootloop. I just don't want that to happen again... What does that triangle and exclamation point even really mean? I can't find a definitive answer on it. Shouldn't the OTA just install as normal, but it'll remove root in the process?
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BUT, the last time I did this when 1.73 went to 1.85, I was just stock rooted, no unlocked BL (just like I am now), when I tried to install the OTA, went to that error with the triangle and exclamation point and wouldn't let me install it. I had to reflash to stock RUU because it was giving me a bootloop. I just don't want that to happen again... What does that triangle and exclamation point even really mean? I can't find a definitive answer on it. Shouldn't the OTA just install as normal, but it'll remove root in the process?
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Red triangle and exclamation point is the stock recovery. This appears if something about the ROM is missing or corrupted. Not sure why this happened to you in that particular case. But installing OTAs on rooted phones is always a crap shoot. Sometimes it works, and you just lose root. Sometimes you boot loop or other things.
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Red triangle and exclamation point is the stock recovery. This appears if something about the ROM is missing or corrupted. Not sure why this happened to you in that particular case. But installing OTAs on rooted phones is always a crap shoot. Sometimes it works, and you just lose root. Sometimes you boot loop or other things.
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That's what I was afraid of. Actually, I remember trying to install the 2.2 OTA a few days ago as well. Same red triangle and exclamation point. This time wasn't a boot loop and I just rebooted again and ever since, just kept canceling the update. Not sure what's going on...
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That's what I was afraid of. Actually, I remember trying to install the 2.2 OTA a few days ago as well. Same red triangle and exclamation point. This time wasn't a boot loop and I just rebooted again and ever since, just kept canceling the update. Not sure what's going on...
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Is the update actually downloaded to your phone? You may need to locate and delete it.
It may be trying to install the OTA from recovery, which makes sense. Don't actually know what happens when an OTA installs.
I've never installed an OTA! I'm always rooted, always will be!!!!
Just to be sure.
I did a factory data reset the night of the problem, been good ever since! I have not done anything to the phone except install a few apps. Should i be okay to take the OTA now? Sorry i just really want to be sure. This is my 3rd phone is 3 months so... no second chances.
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Okay, so i took a chance on the update. It worked! I will not be rooting anymore until i read up. Sorry guys if you feel this thread was unnecessary. Just an FYI to any who are worried about taking the newest update after a factory data reset, don't be! Thank you to all:highfive:
Did everyone got an update ?
I still do not see update notification
From beast called HTC One X
It's a little late for this probably but for future reference if you are rooted and want to stop receiving OTA updates remove/rename/delete HtcOMADM_ATT.apk and HtcOMADM_ATT.odex from system/apps, wipe cache and dalvik. If you want to remove "AT&T software update" from the "Settings" then remove HtcOMADM_SettingsPlugin_ATT.apk and HtcOMADM_SettingsPlugin_ATT.odex from system/apps, wipe cache and dalvik.
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It's a little late for this probably but for future reference if you are rooted and want to stop receiving OTA updates remove/rename/delete HtcOMADM_ATT.apk and HtcOMADM_ATT.odex from system/apps, wipe cache and dalvik. If you want to remove "AT&T software update" from the "Settings" then remove HtcOMADM_SettingsPlugin_ATT.apk and HtcOMADM_SettingsPlugin_ATT.odex from system/apps, wipe cache and dalvik.
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Excellent info!
ssteven232 said:
Okay, so i took a chance on the update. It worked! I will not be rooting anymore until i read up. Sorry guys if you feel this thread was unnecessary. Just an FYI to any who are worried about taking the newest update after a factory data reset, don't be! Thank you to all:highfive:
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Looks like you will not be rooting anymore for a while now, since there is no method to root the 2.2 update. AT&T / HTC made sure the current rooting method won't work on it. Hopefully, the devs will eventually crack this one too.
I hope you knew that before making the dive ... I would have just unlocked the bootloader and flashed a ROM with the update baked into it to get the best of both worlds. But that's just me. I can't own an android without root access. To reach his own.
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Looks like you will not be rooting anymore for a while now, since there is no method to root the 2.2 update. AT&T / HTC made sure the current rooting method won't work on it. Hopefully, the devs will eventually crack this one too.
I hope you knew that before making the dive ... I would have just unlocked the bootloader and flashed a ROM with the update baked into it to get the best of both worlds. But that's just me. I can't own an android without root access. To reach his own.
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Yeah, I hear what you're saying and you are right. The current rooting method does not work with the new hboot. But.... If you have your bootloader unlocked beforehand you can still still get root after taking the OTA... And you can still flash a custom rom afterwards, from what I understand you would just need to fastboot flash the boot.img. I haven't personally tried it because I like staying fairly stock, just seriously cleaned up with some mods (init.d support, wifi/usb tethering, missing apps replaced). One thing I am curious about and to be honest I haven't spent any time researching the answer, what kernel are the roms using that are based on the 2.23 (4.0.4) Asian RUU? I wonder because I know the combination of the AT&T 2.20 (4.0.4) update with the new kernel and radio is working very, very well on my phone! My quadrant went up 800 points and battery life is still ridiculously good! I also have to agree with "I can't own an android without root access" especially on AT&T. Personally I'm good to go until the Jelly Bean update! Decisions, decisions! :laugh:
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Yeah, I hear what you're saying and you are right. The current rooting method does not work with the new hboot. But.... If you have your bootloader unlocked beforehand you can still still get root after taking the OTA... And you can still flash a custom rom afterwards, from what I understand you would just need to fastboot flash the boot.img. I haven't personally tried it because I like staying fairly stock, just seriously cleaned up with some mods (init.d support, wifi/usb tethering, missing apps replaced).
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I've never installed an OTA, so I wouldn't know either. Honestly, I don't know why one would do that, when the awesome devs here post ROMs with the latest OTAs and root prebaked into them. There are "modded" ROMs and "stock" (or close to stock) ROMs available to everyone's taste.
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One thing I am curious about and to be honest I haven't spent any time researching the answer, what kernel are the roms using that are based on the 2.23 (4.0.4) Asian RUU? I wonder because I know the combination of the AT&T 2.20 (4.0.4) update with the new kernel and radio is working very, very well on my phone!
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Right now, I'm running CleanROM 4.5, which is based on the 2.23 RUU. I did install the 2.20 radio, thinking it would work better, since I'm on AT&T. I took a screenshot of the kernel screen for you.
wantabe said:
My quadrant went up 800 points and battery life is still ridiculously good!
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Where was your improvement? Did the increase happen in the aspect/area that directly affects your daily use, or in some esoteric algorithm that the phone all of a sudden processes faster? I used to go crazy on quadrant scores, but now I don't really understand their value/accuracy. As long as the phone feels buttery smooth while lasting 5+ hours of screen time, I'm happy!
Since you're interested in the scores, I installed quadrant and ran it, so you can compare.
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in admiration, totally confused!
borets.boris said:
Right now, I'm running CleanROM 4.5, which is based on the 2.23 RUU. I did install the 2.20 radio, thinking it would work better, since I'm on AT&T. I took a screenshot of the kernel screen for you.
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Hi, do you think you could point me in the right direction for this? I found the general thread on radios, but am at a total loss about what it means or what to do with it!
You knew this was the wrong section but posted here anyway? Not a good way to start your membership on XDA. First rule of thumb is to search before creating a thread. Google is a great source for information. For future reference, all questions belong in the Q&A section, where coincidentally, this is being moved to.
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Okay... now that I have everyone's attention...
Here is the deal... in between a series of insane work trips my Mom comes over and says she just bought a new One X, and can I set it up for her.
I am pretty comfortable with this stuff, or at least following directions , but I am seriously pressed for time.
I started reading last night and think I have a pretty good handle on what and where, but want to confirm I am on the right path...
Phone is currently on 4.0.3 with version 1.85.502.3
I have zero plans to load custom ROMs on this since all my Mom needs is stability, but I want to root so that I can get in TiBu, clean out the bloat, setup a backup schedule and so on.
I have read a couple of comments that the 2.2 software gives better battery life and a few other improvements, so would not mind putting that on.
I have not gotten any OTA update notifications since I turned the phone on.
What is my best path?
Can I simply root the device using these instructions http://briefmobile.com/how-to-root-htc-one-x-att and then install the rooted stock 2.2 here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1812459
Sorry for the dummy questions, but I am leaving for another work trip tomorrow AM and was hoping to get this done, although to be perfectly honest it is not as if she wont have a working phone, but if I can do this all up front then I can let her play around with it, customize etc and not have to redo it all when I get back.
THANKS for your help!
post pics and I'll help.
bloodrain954 said:
post pics and I'll help.
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Of my mom? classy!
Did you copy paste the title from brazzers.com clips?
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I would defo flash CleanROM 4.5 stand for her.
lazarat said:
Did you copy paste the title from brazzers.com clips?
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I guess I should have known better... felt bad posting noobish questions I can figure out if I spend a bunch of time reading, but really short on time right now, so figured I would try to be funny and hopefully generate more views and quicker responses.
For what it is worth my Mom is 67... I am not 17 and this is not a MILF scenario...
thcue said:
I would defo flash CleanROM 4.5 stand for her.
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Right... I don't want to flash custom... stick with stock... I have no time to update customs or to act as tech support when things inevitably go wrong with a custom.
dcdivenut said:
Right... I don't want to flash custom... stick with stock... I have no time to update customs or to act as tech support when things inevitably go wrong with a custom.
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Believe me man you would want to how much bloat and crap that att throws on the phone. Might as well give her something worth having the rom is very stable and would never have to fix it for her.
Also after you install TWRP for her (the recovery) Make sure to make a nano backup of her stock image then flash with CleanROM and make one of that to. So if she ever has a issue she is just one click away from a new phone.:good:
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Right... I don't want to flash custom... stick with stock... I have no time to update customs or to act as tech support when things inevitably go wrong with a custom.
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I think the problem is that if you're going to root anyway, you've already made it so she can't stay current on the "official" path.
I've found CleanROM to be far more stable than AT&T's PoS.
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Of my mom? classy!
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post pics and I'll help.
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Lmao!!
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I must.. refrain from Googling sexy old ladies and relying to the tread must resist the urge.... :angel:
dcdivenut said:
this is not a MILF scenario...
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Dont make it then
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I think the problem is that if you're going to root anyway, you've already made it so she can't stay current on the "official" path.
I've found CleanROM to be far more stable than AT&T's PoS.
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+1000.
You'll never know it isn't stock sense/att except that all the apps which, if she clicks them she'll get charged additional usage for, are gone.
FWIW, ATT's OTA isn't anything special. My phone was three months old and was still running 1.73. Never succeeded in an OTA update.
So, CleanROM 4.5 was a huge improvement.
I would say that, if she is not totally interested in Modding, that she should either leave it with all stock ,or switch to CleanROM. I am running CleanROM because I like the stock feel, although I have modded a few things. I also liked the removale of bloatware. I feel that the best place for rooting your One X is on onexroot.com. just make sure you choose the right ROM and root method depending on your model, such as international AT&T, or Rodgers. Hope this helps!
dcdivenut said:
Okay... now that I have everyone's attention...
Here is the deal... in between a series of insane work trips my Mom comes over and says she just bought a new One X, and can I set it up for her.
I am pretty comfortable with this stuff, or at least following directions , but I am seriously pressed for time.
I started reading last night and think I have a pretty good handle on what and where, but want to confirm I am on the right path...
Phone is currently on 4.0.3 with version 1.85.502.3
I have zero plans to load custom ROMs on this since all my Mom needs is stability, but I want to root so that I can get in TiBu, clean out the bloat, setup a backup schedule and so on.
I have read a couple of comments that the 2.2 software gives better battery life and a few other improvements, so would not mind putting that on.
I have not gotten any OTA update notifications since I turned the phone on.
What is my best path?
Can I simply root the device using these instructions http://briefmobile.com/how-to-root-htc-one-x-att and then install the rooted stock 2.2 here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1812459
Sorry for the dummy questions, but I am leaving for another work trip tomorrow AM and was hoping to get this done, although to be perfectly honest it is not as if she wont have a working phone, but if I can do this all up front then I can let her play around with it, customize etc and not have to redo it all when I get back.
THANKS for your help!
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2.20 breaks root if you go with the stock RUU. So you are going to be unlocking the bootloader and going off the "official" path anyway. Which means you will have to periodically update your mother's phone anyways and she will software warranty.
I would go with one of three options:
1. Root/Unlock and flash CleanROM 4.5 (you will have to update her phone every so often and she loses software warranty)
2. Root, stay with 1.85 and de-bloat (don't really recommended because of multitask issue)
3. Don't root, leave phone stock and stay on the official path (if you don't have the time to maintain your mother's phone go with this)
Actually, if you root &unlock bootloader now, flash a custom recovery, you can manually update the firmware to 2.2x, flash back your stock recovery and relock it you have a fully updated, stock device that you can always go back and unlock if u want to later.
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Butters619 said:
2.20 breaks root if you go with the stock RUU. So you are going to be unlocking the bootloader and going off the "official" path anyway. Which means you will have to periodically update your mother's phone anyways and she will software warranty.
I would go with one of three options:
1. Root/Unlock and flash CleanROM 4.5 (you will have to update her phone every so often and she loses software warranty)
2. Root, stay with 1.85 and de-bloat (don't really recommended because of multitask issue)
3. Don't root, leave phone stock and stay on the official path (if you don't have the time to maintain your mother's phone go with this)
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True that for root on 2.20, you will need to unlock the bootloader anyway, so you may as well go ahead and root, SuperCID and unlock bootloader.
A 4th option would be to flash a stock rooted 2.20, 2.23, or 2.29 ROM (after unlocking the bootloader). Honestly, the 2.2X stock ROMs are quite good, and you won't really need to update the phone much after that; really mostly if you just want to.
Personally, I would suggest either leaving as-is on 1.85, and root and debloat; or unlock the bootloader and flash either a rooted stock 2.2X ROM, or custom ROM that does not divert too much from stock 2.2X (like CleanROM).
Updating to 2.20 the "official" way is just robbing yourself of any other options, until (if and when) a root method is found for 2.20. Personally recommend you stay away from that.
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dcdivenut said:
I have zero plans to load custom ROMs on this since all my Mom needs is stability,
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Custom ROMs have a huge variation in their stability. Sure, ROMs which are AOSP have some things broken, and ones based on the leading edge (Jellybean) have issues too, since they are ports, do not fully support our hardware, etc.
But many of the ROMs you will see in Development are based stock ROMs, with bloat removed, performance tweaks, and some features added, without any real drastic changes. CleanROM, King Cobra among others actually run smoother and more stable than stock. Don't knock all custom ROMs, especially since you haven't even tried any on this device.
CleanROM 4.5 is better than stock. It's the best rom I have ever flashed on any device ever.
I have a rooted, unlocked SG3 running stock ROM and as of a couple weeks ago, continue to get prompted to install the OTA update (VRAGL7 I believe). Unsurprisingly the install fails when I try to apply it.
My question is, do I have to restore in order to apply this update? And if so, is it possible to instead defer the update indefinitely (since I dont want to restore and there doesnt appear to be anything useful in this update according to their site).
Im also sure someone else must have asked this before, but after browsing the last few pages and searching, I couldnt find anything. Feel free to direct me to a previous response if I missed it.
Thanks in advance!
This has been covered numerous times, but, here you go. If you want to take the update, lock your bootloader, Odin back to stock, take the OTA update, reroot, unlock, etc.
If you don't want to do that, freeze SDM 1.0 with Titanium and the message will stop. One thing though, you will not be able to update OTA until you restore SDM. Which, you shouldn't be updating a rooted phone to begin with unless you want a world of problems.
Good luck!
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So to be clear, absolutely no way to apply the update without going back to stock first, correct?
Sorry for posting up whats probably been asked 100 times, but really couldnt track it down with a search and browse of the last few pages.
Thanks again.
timofcourse said:
So to be clear, absolutely no way to apply the update without going back to stock first, correct?
Sorry for posting up whats probably been asked 100 times, but really couldnt track it down with a search and browse of the last few pages.
Thanks again.
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I did not have to do all that...
I used Mobile Odin Pro to Pre-Inject Root into the OTA Update before flashing it, then I flashed the latest modem immediately after flashing the OTA update.
I didn't lose Root or Unlocked Bootloader status..
Best part of it was... I didn't need my PC to do any of it...
The following thread is the one you should read in detail..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1887741
Perfect. Exactly what I was looking for.
Thanks again.
timofcourse said:
Perfect. Exactly what I was looking for.
Thanks again.
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tekrhino said:
I did not have to do all that...
I used Mobile Odin Pro to Pre-Inject Root into the OTA Update before flashing it, then I flashed the latest modem immediately after flashing the OTA update.
I didn't lose Root or Unlocked Bootloader status..
Best part of it was... I didn't need my PC to do any of it...
The following thread is the one you should read in detail..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1887741
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Make sure that you read it and pay attention very carefully. I tried to do the same exact thing and had problems. Had to Odin back to stock. I think my problem was that I was running a custom kernel. Anyway I got the unauthorized software message and could only get into stock recovery and download mode.
Guess I will read the thread myself and see where I screwed up at.
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