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[REQ] 2.10.605.1 Untouched but Rooted

I'd like to request a completely untouched version of this ROM with the exception of root. (No debloating, no deodexing, no zipaligning, etc...)
I'm surprised this didn't come out first and I think many would appreciate it as well.
[ROM]RUU_Mecha_GINGERBREAD_S_VERIZON_WWE_2.10.605.1_Rad io_0.01.78.0802w_3_NV_8K_1.41
[ROM] ZIP format: RUU_Mecha_GINGERBREAD_S_VERIZON_WWE_2.10.605.1_Rad io_0.01.78.08...
2.10.605.1 Debloat|Deodex|Rooted|Busybox|Zipalign
[ROM] [FLASHABLE] 2.10.605.1 Debloat/BLoat Options

you don't need anyone to make one...
Instead, see -> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1226156
and read/use the information and links it contains...

KidJoe said:
you don't need anyone to make one...
Instead, see -> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1226156
and read/use the information and links it contains...
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I was aware of that but it would be nice if someone can uploaded a completed version of this to save quite a bit of time.

open1your1eyes0 said:
I was aware of that but it would be nice if someone can uploaded a completed version of this to save quite a bit of time.
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Its a couple extra steps, and doesn't really take much longer than flashing a rooted rom file. Plus flashing the patched HBoot is safer, and for how "easy" this is.. I wouldn't expect any dev to take the time and make just a "rooted" version of the rom to flash.

Odd. I don't see anything in the forum rules that say people should ask for help. I don't blame the guy for asking. Why not? What's next--create your own ROM, why should others do it? Figure out your own root method instead of asking someone if they have?
For all the people who give the guy grief about asking, maybe someone else will say, "yeah, that's a good idea" and help the guy (and others) out.
Joel

I think it's more that this person is asking in multiple places for a few hours. Coulda had it done by now. Just rubs some people the wrong way.

Wow guys, well I think I can officially say XDA is no longer the same site I thought it was....
FYI, I had already done the posted method no problem. The only reason I made this thread was in an effort to request if a developer (of which I am not) could create a simple ROM that would help other newbies out and make it an easy one-flash task so they don't have to worry. But no, I guess it's a sin to be a newbie now huh? How dare anyone request something so simple from a developer (especially when a well known dev already spent more work creating another version of the same ROM). So this should be even harder for them to do right? And honestly, why anyone sees this thread as a forceful obligation for someone to fulfill the request is beyond me.
Very productive and helpful posts everyone. Great job at showing how supportive XDA has become...

You do realize pulling the rom.zip from an RUU takes about 2 minutes to accomplish, including the time it takes to google the "how-to". But you would rather bother a dev to do it for you, adding the trouble of having to wait the 20+ minutes to upload the 350MB file to waste precious personal server space for a single person's downloading convenience. A 2 minute job turned 30 minutes of someone else's time cus you didn't feel like it. The difference between a good noob and a bad noob: good noob asks how to get roms from RUUs, bad noob tells someone else to do it for them without hesitation.
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open1your1eyes0 said:
Wow guys, well I think I can officially say XDA is no longer the same site I thought it was....
FYI, I had already done the posted method no problem. The only reason I made this thread was in an effort to request if a developer (of which I am not) could create a simple ROM that would help other newbies out and make it an easy one-flash task so they don't have to worry. But no, I guess it's a sin to be a newbie now huh? How dare anyone request something so simple from a developer (especially when a well known dev already spent more work creating another version of the same ROM). So this should be even harder for them to do right? And honestly, why anyone sees this thread as a forceful obligation for someone to fulfill the request is beyond me.
Very productive and helpful posts everyone. Great job at showing how supportive XDA has become...
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Oh please, you are defending yourself ex post facto because you were attacked for being shown that if it matters that much to help the new commers you could make what you wanted pretty quickly by following a how-to. If you really want to help them, you could have probably finished the how-to and posted it in the time you took to complain.
It's great to do things for anyone new and I am all for it (which is why in the few months I have been an official member, I have 60+ "thanks," most of which came from answering questions or giving out useful information.
No one is attacking you for wanting to help noobs, but people will call you out when you claim to want to help and are shown, but ignore it anyways. It comes back to the quote:
"Give a man a fish and you feed him for a day. Teach a man to fish and you feed him for a lifetime."
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If all someone said was to google it or do this yourself without telling you how it could be done with links or something then that would be messed up, but they did not. They gave you links in both this thread and the other (the other thread giving you EXACTLY what you requested in a link).
IMHO if you really want to help those you say you want to help, you could create a post in the developer's forum linking to the post that someone gave you in the other topic from rootzwiki. That way they can be pointed in the right direction.

[q] help from me on xda or in pm/gtalk ?

I help A LOT of people here on xda all day everyday some donate some don't. its very hard to help people on xda cus when helping them other people jump in and start either telling the person im helping don't do that do this or they just plain old spam. i have helped a very large amount of people on g talk and they have told me they like to be helped MORE on g talk than on xda because we have 100% full privacy to do what we need to do. please choose how you like to be helped Either xda or PM or g talk. at the end of the week ill count all of them up and from the results i will help people based on the results on this thanks very much.

To put the poll into better context I believe that you should also read this thread Although I've quoted the relevant posts below:
ben_pyett said:
Hello, Paul,
Firstly, thanks (again) for your input into the forum. I'm genuinely not intending to create conflict here or trying to play the role of a mod. Now, I know that you've had this sort of comment before, but, I agreed with it then and I'm afraid that I still do.
While at times the PM route can be useful to resolve issues, it shouldn't be the only or primary option. The whole principle of XDA is openness and sharing, so resolving an issue in thread permits that the next user(s) (and there is always another, who suffers from the exact same problem) from hopefully using the Search function and then following the resolution from the thread by themselves.
That way we're working towards creating a valuable resource rather than loosing useful input into hidden PMs.
PM's do have there place for 'user to user' communication, that would otherwise populate the forum unnecessarily but once a thread has been created I believe that it should be used to reolve the original issue.
If a new user needs that much hand holding then one wonders whether they should be risking their £200-£400 device in the first place! before reading up some more....
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paul.robo said:
me helping people over PM is better because its faster and more safer for the person im helping. if im trying to guide him then other people jump in and comment he isnt going to know who to listen to and he will get very confused. this has happend before. by helping over PM or my gmail is better for them, and me. and i ALWAYS ask them after to write a guide as to how i helped them and what they did. i at NO point mean to upset anyone. but you have got to understand that this is the only way that i can help these people as you may well know here on xda people have got there opinions and they like to jump in whenever they want. if i tell him to do somthing some1 might jump in and say no or do this and do that. i have had EVERYONE i have helped say thanks to me and its better this way. i have helped MANY people achieve proper s-off. i will no open a poll. and it will ask the people of xda if they would prefer to be helped via PM or Gtalk or on here. if more people prefer xda then i will start helping via xda
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As someone whom Paul has helped through gtalk, It was very beneficial to me as we were able to quickly and easily communicate, as any other method is rather slow and crude. I definitely do agree with your point on xda being a repository for information however, therefore communicating through gtalk or similar could withhold information from other users. However I have now written up a short guide of what I did to solve my problem on the original thread, and I believe that if people do this then everyone wins tbh, and it has the added advantage of the treads being shorter and more concise, therefore it is easier to find the relevant information.

As someone who has done all his stiff by reading through threads and others opinions, I will always advocate all discussions on XDA
Sent from a Desire S waiting for Kernel 3. WAKE UP HTC!!!!

On the 16th the poll will close and whatever the winning method is thats the way i will help people from now on. i do wish ALL people will take something out of the way i help them. as me getting them properly s-off uses alot of things like commands running adb , fastboot and so on. by helping them do these things it then in turn helps them. as if i didnt help them and they needed to to adb or fastboot commands and they never knew howto that could result in a not needed thread being opened **How to use adb or fastboot** this is a good way for me to help these people. i think people should help people the way they do and let other people carry on with the ways they do things. ( no offence meant ben your opinion means alot to me your a good person ) but if it states in the rules ( only help people on xda ) then i will stop if it dont then i will carry on as im not doing anything wrong. and even so if you guys think your losing out on infomation. i will open up a guide covering absolutly EVERYTHING on the desire s from fastboot adb changing roms,splash,radio,hboot and covering everything on what the desire s is capable of doing. what limits it has and other things. this in a sense will be the desire s XDA user guide let me know if u think thats a good isea ben. and as i go along anything i help people out with thats not in the new guide ill just update it ????????????

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( no offence meant ben
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do u think that the thread idea's a go ?

paul.robo said:
do u think that the thread idea's a go ?
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I do but there are already several threads like this, so one must be careful not to pollute the forum with too many similar guides which would just lead to further confusion.

There is the Complete Tutorial for beginners and others, but I'm guessing yours would be a more technical and slightly more advanced version?

Duke_Nuke said:
There is the Complete Tutorial for beginners and others, but I'm guessing yours would be a more technical and slightly more advanced version?
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yes ur right mine would cover EVERYTHING that is possible with our device. from s-off to installing app's and even radio flashing fastboot adb the lot. EVERYTHING will be in sections. with sections about all developers themers contributors. what projects that are currently under development and it can also act like a news forum. like if you want to know whats happening in the most recent roms go to this thread and find your rom and you will be able to keep upto date with whats going on. this will be called DESIRE S ADVANCED USER THREAD. this will house everything for our device. from what roms are currently avalible and everything. im going to start this thread now i think this thread when its done will be the best thread about our device on xda
if u look the thread u linked above Last edited by nodeffect; 27th February 2012 at 03:00 PM. Reason: Updates . this is not regularly updated. mine will be updated EVERYDAY

paul.robo said:
yes ur right mine would cover EVERYTHING that is possible with our device. from s-off to installing app's and even radio flashing fastboot adb the lot. EVERYTHING will be in sections. with sections about all developers themers contributors. what projects that are currently under development and it can also act like a news forum. like if you want to know whats happening in the most recent roms go to this thread and find your rom and you will be able to keep upto date with whats going on. this will be called DESIRE S ADVANCED USER THREAD. this will house everything for our device. from what roms are currently avalible and everything. im going to start this thread now i think this thread when its done will be the best thread about our device on xda
if u look the thread u linked above Last edited by nodeffect; 27th February 2012 at 03:00 PM. Reason: Updates . this is not regularly updated. mine will be updated EVERYDAY
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The one thing I would say though, is rather than re-invent not just the wheel but the car, I'd recommend that you source, link and reference as much of the existing documentation where ever possible.

paul.robo said:
yes ur right mine would cover EVERYTHING that is possible with our device. from s-off to installing app's and even radio flashing fastboot adb the lot. EVERYTHING will be in sections. with sections about all developers themers contributors. what projects that are currently under development and it can also act like a news forum. like if you want to know whats happening in the most recent roms go to this thread and find your rom and you will be able to keep upto date with whats going on. this will be called DESIRE S ADVANCED USER THREAD. this will house everything for our device. from what roms are currently avalible and everything. im going to start this thread now i think this thread when its done will be the best thread about our device on xda
if u look the thread u linked above Last edited by nodeffect; 27th February 2012 at 03:00 PM. Reason: Updates . this is not regularly updated. mine will be updated EVERYDAY
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Guides done i have posted it now and ill carry it on as i go along

hey guys, Would just like to add to this After searching throughout the forum day and night i got what information i needed to root and s-off my desire s. After following all the instructions letter by letter i was still have errors and problem after problem. paul.robo kindly asked me if i wanted his help and i accepted using Gtalk. I can not begin to express at how helpful he was and was there to guide me through each error. After a good few steps i finally got to where i wanted to be. In no way was i able to find out why i was having these errors if he weren't there to check them as it was happening. To go through this in forum style replys would take days and to much work. Gtalk is a brilliant and direct help for occasions like these and would recommend his help and wisdom to all. Thanks again mate Much appreciated

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hey guys, Would just like to add to this After searching throughout the forum day and night i got what information i needed to root and s-off my desire s. After following all the instructions letter by letter i was still have errors and problem after problem. paul.robo kindly asked me if i wanted his help and i accepted using Gtalk. I can not begin to express at how helpful he was and was there to guide me through each error. After a good few steps i finally got to where i wanted to be. In no way was i able to find out why i was having these errors if he weren't there to check them as it was happening. To go through this in forum style replys would take days and to much work. Gtalk is a brilliant and direct help for occasions like these and would recommend his help and wisdom to all. Thanks again mate Much appreciated
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No problem mate I'm here to help all who need me

[Q] Galaxy s 4G ICS

Do you think we will ever have ICS on the galaxy s 4g? I mean we saw it on G1, and lots of unsupported phones, and on the galaxy s 1 which doesn't support ICS officially. What is the problem stopping the development ?

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Do you think we will ever have ICS on the galaxy s 4g? I mean we saw it on G1, and lots of unsupported phones, and on the galaxy s 1 which doesn't support ICS officially. What is the problem stopping the development ?
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Threads like this.
Also, the other phones have like a billion and one kernel devs. Not to mention our phone is Sammy's black sheep, by that I mean this phone is way different from other sgs.
Lastly, we have at least 3 other ICS threads why not ask there?
sent from my batcave

ismailham said:
Do you think we will ever have ICS on the galaxy s 4g? I mean we saw it on G1, and lots of unsupported phones, and on the galaxy s 1 which doesn't support ICS officially. What is the problem stopping the development ?
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You haven't downloaded the source code and tried to help us port it. We need your help.

I'm trying really hard to remain "civil".....really I am

FBis251 said:
You haven't downloaded the source code and tried to help us port it. We need your help.
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I like that answer lol
Sent from my SGH-T959V using XDA

Why does everybody get annoyed when a regular person just wants to know whats wrong out of curiosity? I don't want any ROM or anything I just wanted a technical answer. is the problem the source code being unreleased? will the company ever release it?
I wish I could help, I would really love to. Its like a dream or long term goal to be a dev, study programming languages etc... but that requires lots of time and I'm just waiting a bit as i'm not sure where to start.
I am sorry for any misunderstanding as I know Devs already have rough days and nights with developing and improving. I wasn't "Demanding" or "pushing" as i'm not that person. I am just seeking knowledge, and if the Q&A section isn't the right place to search for Knowledge then I don't know where is.

The problem isn't with you so much as it is with the million dollar question that's been asked and answered a million times....its the question all devs cringe over when they see it repeated time n time again.
Put yourself in their shoes for a minute.....they put out as much as they can with what they can and people keep popping up this same question like they just aren't happy with what they are getting

To answer your question, and anybody else that wants to ask,
It is being worked on. We cannot get ICS to boot due to coding and kernel issues. I semi successfully ported an ICS ROM, but due to all the mods and changes, it felt empty. So we went back to the drawing board and started over. Since we don't have source code, it makes things much more difficult. Be patient. And for the record, the first place to search for knowledge is Google. Fb is right though. We do need more help. The more people we have working on this, the better our chances are. Learn how to compile kernel and ROM from source. Learn scripting. And learn how to Google...
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The problem isn't with you so much as it is with the million dollar question that's been asked and answered a million times....its the question all devs cringe over when they see it repeated time n time again.
Put yourself in their shoes for a minute.....they put out as much as they can with what they can and people keep popping up this same question like they just aren't happy with what they are getting
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I do understand what you mean, and I already put myself in the dev's shoes and I really admire their work, all of it. But I went through all the threads regarding ICS, and sadly their aim is to push , demand and request stuff from devs as if devs don't have enough on their minds already, and that is really annoying and disrespectful. But not all people are like that. I don't have any requests( I have a Nexus S with ICS, SGS 4g CM7.2) I am just seeking knowledge.
I am really grateful for what each and every DEV offers as it is from their personal and free time. Sorry for any misunderstanding

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To answer your question, and anybody else that wants to ask,
It is being worked on. We cannot get ICS to boot due to coding and kernel issues. I semi successfully ported an ICS ROM, but due to all the mods and changes, it felt empty. So we went back to the drawing board and started over. Since we don't have source code, it makes things much more difficult. Be patient. And for the record, the first place to search for knowledge is Google. Fb is right though. We do need more help. The more people we have working on this, the better our chances are. Learn how to compile kernel and ROM from source. Learn scripting. And learn how to Google...
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I really thank you for your answer sir. You have helped me a lot, I hope I can lend a hand in any way possible. I will read about kernel/rom compiling. I googled many stuff about a month ago but its so vast and big I sort of got lost and stopped.
Thank you...
Sorry for double posting...

http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/Samsung_Galaxy_S/SGH-T959V

erikmm said:
Also, the other phones have like a billion and one kernel devs. Not to mention our phone is Sammy's black sheep, by that I mean this phone is way different from other sgs.
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What Thomas posted is true but the main reason we dont have a working ICS port is this statement above.
The op makes a good point, this is the Q&A section. Even tho there are many threads asking this same question most of them have ended up in bashing with nerf bats or a mod locking because of insults. Ive read the other threads, but most people will stop reading when the conversation turns sour. You might actually read the other posts but your mind shuts it down. So a informative post will slip in and you wont catch it.
The biggest problem with threads that ask this question is assumptions. When people stop assuming and start to understand the person asking the question things get resolved.

thomas.raines said:
To answer your question, and anybody else that wants to ask,
It is being worked on. We cannot get ICS to boot due to coding and kernel issues. I semi successfully ported an ICS ROM, but due to all the mods and changes, it felt empty. So we went back to the drawing board and started over. Since we don't have source code, it makes things much more difficult. Be patient. And for the record, the first place to search for knowledge is Google. Fb is right though. We do need more help. The more people we have working on this, the better our chances are. Learn how to compile kernel and ROM from source. Learn scripting. And learn how to Google...
Sent from my SGH-T959V using XDA
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I'd like to help, how would I go about doing that?

brandonc0526 said:
I'd like to help, how would I go about doing that?
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jump on irc and go to the teamacid channel this evening...
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thomas.raines said:
jump on irc and go to the teamacid channel this evening...
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Joined too late man. Tried to take a break at work but I couldnt
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Joined too late man. Tried to take a break at work but I couldnt
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Send me a PM when you guys get on

Jelly Bean (JB) for the Sensation - OTA/Information/Update/ETAs/etc

To somewhat control the the masses of Jelly bean threads that are currently arising, I made this thread to collect all talk about it.
Anything related to JB belongs in this thread. We don't want hundreds of threads with the same information, so please use this thread instead.
Yes I know I fooled you with the title, but I somehow need to get your attention
Any other JB threads will be closed to keep this froum clean.
Thanks

Wait HTC ONE X thread on Sensation forum?

When wil come
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People are too much excited for this update personally I don't think it worth the hype but we'll see...
Sent From My Sexy Sensation.

akbisw said:
Wait HTC ONE X thread on Sensation forum?
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sowmian said:
When wil come
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Thanks for a good laugh, I needed one right now.

Diamondback said:
To somewhat control the the masses of Jelly bean threads that are currently arising, I made this thread to collect all talk about it.
Anything related to JB belongs in this thread. We don't want hundreds of threads with the same information, so please use this thread instead.
Yes I know I fooled you with the title, but I somehow need to get your attention
Any other JB threads will be closed to keep this froum clean.
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lol you fooled your self xD ( Jk ) the HTC one X have JB up and running!!!

It would be nice if you can somehow merge it with this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1736469&page=12
there are some good information on that thread...

Can someone working on this upload a logcat and I'll help, unfortunatly I can obtain logcat myself because my sensation is in for repair :/

I'm assuming HOX is a nickname for Sensation? :silly:

Smart guy...

Send me something and I'll get you your logcat

sowmian said:
When wil come
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Dont ask for ETA, the more you ask, the less I am inclined to help port this = the longer it will take because of fewer people, so do everyone a favor and dont ask
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I'm assuming HOX is a nickname for Sensation? :silly:
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HTC One X

Ace42 said:
I'm assuming HOX is a nickname for Sensation? :silly:
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no HOX = HTC one X

Jonny said:
Dont ask for ETA, the more you ask, the less I am inclined to help port this = the longer it will take because of fewer people, so do everyone a favor and dont ask
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What if he asked for an official release date rather than a port? Why go @ him like that without any further information?
I don't know about other people, but I personally appreciate your work and you taking your time to help with the porting process, because I'm really eager to try the new features, but if you're going to go at everyone seeking some knowledge, I just don't think it's the place... Stop making us feel guilty or think twice before asking any questions.
That's definitely not the meaning of the word 'community'.
Plus, the sensation forum itself is not that 'live' lately, so such threads/questions kinda spice things up a lil' bit.
Anyways, If it's that irritating and 'annoying', why not write down all the information currently known about the process and clearing up some stuff for people who have no idea? Wouldn't that just be easier to keep track of the progress AND avoid less people having to ask? I wouldn't even mind doing it myself, but as you can see, this is the only post allowed on the subject.
Would you please explain me why it's that so... un-motivating? annoying? irritating?
People asking such questions will be everywhere, anywhere, anytime, and no one can change that. I don't have a problem with such people, because sometimes they're the reason I'm able to get my questions answered.
Also, the forum won't be as it is right now, without people asking and expressing excitement over new versions/updates.
It will most likely become a dev-only forum, which won't be much fun, will it? I mean, won't you just port stuff for other devs that can do it themselves? Meh...
Anyways, I'm sure he didn't mean to intentionally affect you or anyones else progress. So some sympathy and patience with people. Not all people know what you do, and that's totally legitimate.
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OP/Mod, If you're going to allow only one thread about the subject at least fill it with some information.
Since people are not allowed to ask elsewhere, this should be the ideal place for them to get informed about the porting process and the new update.
You can't forbid people to ask (really basic) certain questions, yet not fill them with information. People come here, first and foremost for information, not to be impressed by the esthetics of the forum.
You may want to merge all of the information and links out there in one post, for both devs and users.
As I said before, I wouldn't mind doing it myself, but I can't... apparently... Just sayin'
P.S, Nothing personal, just expressing my feelings, so no offence

HOX is nickname for (H)TC (O)ne (X)
Sent from 3000 years in the future from my extremely outdated, but still extremely awesome HTC Sensation Z710e

@biasaf as a general rule most people working on ports and other complex stuff dont like feeling pressured to release or fix. After all we all have personal lives and we do this for a hobby, a hobby should be something you do for fun, not because you feel pressured to do so. Also because of the nature of what porters are trying to do, giving ETA is not good because we dont know ourselves and it just adds more pressure. if the dude was asking for ETA of official release, well tbh that is a pretty stupid thing to ask because htc dont generally give eta either - with exception to ics expected rollout timetable.
If you follow the thread in the dev section you will already know that one guy has a rom which gets past splash screen and just loops on logcat errors after that. In any case if you watch the dev thread you will know the latest progress.
the point I really want to stress though is twofold, 1) we do this for free, 2) we do this in our free time as a hobby so please the least people can do is be patient, when its done its done, until then its not done and hassling any devs working on it just annoys people

Jonny,
I get where this is coming from, and yes I do follow the other threads.
I'm pretty informed though it's just normal for people to get curious.
I think what you're saying is right and a dev, as a contributor, should receive his respect and his ideal work environment and conditions. (does that make sense?)
I don't see how this might be pressuring, because as you said, you do it as a hubby and you don't really have to do it for anyone, yet you're still doing it for whatever reason you have.
On the other hand, that's exactly why people asking for ETAs shouldn't be a bother. When it's done, it's done. Just my 2 cents...
Anyways, I'm really not in the place to judge anyone, especially not a dev (since I haven't been in that position really), so sorry for my previous comments.
P.S., I know it's not the right place to ask, but it's summer and I have LOADS and LOADS of free time, so I thought I'd help myself and try to learn some android programming (and maybe help the community... somewhen). Do you know any good place to start? Do I need to learn any specific programming language?
I know there are loads of sources on Google, but I don't know what's trusted and what's not...
Thank you!

biasaf said:
P.S., I know it's not the right place to ask, but it's summer and I have LOADS and LOADS of free time, so I thought I'd help myself and try to learn some android programming (and maybe help the community... somewhen). Do you know any good place to start? Do I need to learn any specific programming language?
I know there are loads of sources on Google, but I don't know what's trusted and what's not...
Thank you!
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There are a few different views on how to go about it. I reckon its todo with the sort of person you are, eg. if you are the type of person that throws yourself at something and gets stuck in straight away you would be most comfortable going straight in an learning basic java and C++
On the other hand if you like to ease yourself into things it would be better to get to grips with a really easy programming langauge with syntax not too dissimilar to more complex langauges. I was lucky and got into mobile modding at 14 with flash actionscript themes for older samsung phones (tocco lite, monte, corby etc) which is a really easy way to start because you can run the themes on pc and test what changes to code do without running them on the phone using flash player and the code is really easy to understand and can gently ease your way into the coding world.
For internet resources, there are a lot of flash actionscript tutorials on the DarkforestGroup sites (DFG StarMods in particular as that is completly dedicated to flash ui based phones) and also there are lots of Java and C++ tutorials online for free but if you want to be sure they are tried and tested then probably the best way would be to buy a book of amazon or somthing like that.
One warning is that it does take a lot of time and you have to be prepared to read lots whichever way you choose! Good luck!
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The last post was geared mainly towards app/kernel/AOSP/CM/AOKP development but if you want to be a ROM developer you firstly need some sort of kitchen like dsixda's kitchen and cygwin to enable the kitchen to work under windows. the kitchen will let you carry out basic tasks then I would recommend getting a comarison software like beyond compare or similar and compare your ROM with others then see if you can build on those improvements like perhaps editing values in init.d scripts or maybe some smali hacking to enable hidden features/create new features. Or if your good with photoshop or similar you could change the way icons look and create a whole new unique look to the ROM like steve0007 elegancia ROM. then you can add stuff like beats mods, speed tweaks, xloud, bravia, options to debloat and remove some btc junk from the ROM to create an entirely customized ROM.
Anyway this is all massively off topic and its late and Ive got some attemps at porting to do before I go to sleep

biasaf said:
Jonny,
I get where this is coming from, and yes I do follow the other threads.
I'm pretty informed though it's just normal for people to get curious.
I think what you're saying is right and a dev, as a contributor, should receive his respect and his ideal work environment and conditions. (does that make sense?)
I don't see how this might be pressuring, because as you said, you do it as a hubby and you don't really have to do it for anyone, yet you're still doing it for whatever reason you have.
On the other hand, that's exactly why people asking for ETAs shouldn't be a bother. When it's done, it's done. Just my 2 cents...
Anyways, I'm really not in the place to judge anyone, especially not a dev (since I haven't been in that position really), so sorry for my previous comments.
P.S., I know it's not the right place to ask, but it's summer and I have LOADS and LOADS of free time, so I thought I'd help myself and try to learn some android programming (and maybe help the community... somewhen). Do you know any good place to start? Do I need to learn any specific programming language?
I know there are loads of sources on Google, but I don't know what's trusted and what's not...
Thank you!
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Think i might join you been dying to give back to the community and now i have the time to do that

To bring this back on topic, has anyone else noticed that the OOM groupings are suddenly back in the ramdisk (init.rc to be precise)? Seems strange for google to u-turn on this when they moved the OOM groupings to services.jar for ICS (though if they're anything like the UK government....)

Help me please!

Help me pleaseeeee.
I have MB865
I'm in asia ics official rom and i want use this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1847360
because i Love miui and xda, old phone i use WIUI in Defy i very happy.
I can't post in Atrix 2 Android Development because i'm a new member.
"That rom are already on the ICS leak for this to work " but i in asia ics official T-T
i stupid T-T.
help me please.
Thank you very much for all helper.

Read the noob guide in general section to get a basic idea about custom roms..and then go through the roms section and chose the rom you like..instructions are clearly given in the miui thread on how to flash..
Sent from my ME 865 running Supercharged MIUI

thank you, i attempt but i weak in english T-T

kyoknow said:
thank you, i attempt but i weak in english T-T
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What is your native language? We have members from all over the world. One may be able to help translate for you.

To answer your original question, if I understand it correctly: you should be able to flash the ROM on your official ICS. That thread was created when all we had for AT&T MB865 was an ICS leak. It just means that you need to already be on some form of ICS prior to installing the ROM.
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The first day, you'll have to read almost all the stickies, the long ones too, thats about 50 book pages at least, then you will try to do it yourself, fail at it, then write in a ROM thread.
The next day, there will be a bunch of new replies, but nobody will address your problem.
You will then spend your weekend with it, going through hell, and thinking you broke your phone.
After posting it again, in another thread, one user will tell you to try and read in the original thread the for the answer(the thread is 200 pages+).
Another user will try to help you, but it will be a waste of time, since he doesn't know anything more than you about your specific problem, but it will take you another day and a half, and 12 private messages to realize this.
Another two nights pass, googling, installing, learning to adb, trying all kind of crazy things you never knew existed.
Then, on your last hope, trying random things, and not really caring about the outcome anymore, you will manage to fix it yourself, by figuring something really simple out, that the FAQ writers didn't bother to include.
Welcome to XDA.

souljaboy said:
The first day, you'll have to read almost all the stickies, the long ones too, thats about 50 book pages at least, then you will try to do it yourself, fail at it, then write in a ROM thread.
The next day, there will be a bunch of new replies, but nobody will address your problem.
You will then spend your weekend with it, going through hell, and thinking you broke your phone.
After posting it again, in another thread, one user will tell you to try and read in the original thread the for the answer(the thread is 200 pages+).
Another user will try to help you, but it will be a waste of time, since he doesn't know anything more than you about your specific problem, but it will take you another day and a half, and 12 private messages to realize this.
Another two nights pass, googling, installing, learning to adb, trying all kind of crazy things you never knew existed.
Then, on your last hope, trying random things, and not really caring about the outcome anymore, you will manage to fix it yourself, by figuring something really simple out, that the FAQ writers didn't bother to include.
Welcome to XDA.
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LOL, so true.

souljaboy said:
The first day, you'll have to read almost all the stickies, the long ones too, thats about 50 book pages at least, then you will try to do it yourself, fail at it, then write in a ROM thread.
The next day, there will be a bunch of new replies, but nobody will address your problem.
You will then spend your weekend with it, going through hell, and thinking you broke your phone.
After posting it again, in another thread, one user will tell you to try and read in the original thread the for the answer(the thread is 200 pages+).
Another user will try to help you, but it will be a waste of time, since he doesn't know anything more than you about your specific problem, but it will take you another day and a half, and 12 private messages to realize this.
Another two nights pass, googling, installing, learning to adb, trying all kind of crazy things you never knew existed.
Then, on your last hope, trying random things, and not really caring about the outcome anymore, you will manage to fix it yourself, by figuring something really simple out, that the FAQ writers didn't bother to include.
Welcome to XDA.
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Lol..this should be in the faqs.
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