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Patience running thin.

Now the evo 4g gets gb on 6/6 officially.
What's really the hold up with this power house of a phone not getting its love? Am I wrong to feel it should have had it out of the box...the Droid got ota gb this past week...as we sit waiting. I'm disappointed.
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I personally think its t-mobile... they're horrible about getting updates out for ANY of their phones...
the o2x i believe already has a release for UK

The o2 was released prior to this phone. Be patient. With all the issues t-mobile and LG are probably making sure it works right this time. I have a feeling the stock shortage was an excuse to prep for gingerbread release.
G2x with faux AOSP

javolin13 said:
I personally think its t-mobile... they're horrible about getting updates out for ANY of their phones...
the o2x i believe already has a release for UK
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Right, the Vibrant lagged way behind the other US Galaxy S phones on the 2.2 update... oh wait...

you guys do realize all the phones that are getting GB have been out for a while right? It's not even summer yet, so TMO still hasn't past their said deadline. chill out.

keyboardr said:
Right, the Vibrant lagged way behind the other US Galaxy S phones on the 2.2 update... oh wait...
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Uhhh, thats because of a lil group called #neveragain @samsung... Thats that...

I had a captivate for a while so I'm very jaded In being patient for a carrier to provide my update. I just don't hold my breath.
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The evo 4g. The one that's been out for 10 months or so???? Yeah were so far behind. I mean we've had our phones for almost two!!! This is such BS...I'm bringing mine back for an evo......seriously though the GB leaks are more than functional and if your not flashing than shame on you. You'll be the same person that waits for the official 2.3 to drop and then post a complaint on everything that doesn't function right. This phone just came out give it some time. Unfortunately unless you have a nexus phone you're always going to be waiting on the latest and greatest because you're at the mercy of your carrier. I'm still confused as to why google went with samsung and a similar speced phone with the S when dual core tech was available and seems to be the norm for most top end google phones....damn you fragmentation!
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vapor311 said:
Now the evo 4g gets gb on 6/6 officially.
What's really the hold up with this power house of a phone not getting its love? Am I wrong to feel it should have had it out of the box...the Droid got ota gb this past week...as we sit waiting. I'm disappointed.
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It hasn't been our for full two months yet. Calm down or you can sit in a corner and cry about it
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By June 21st. So be patient.
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You may be disappointed when it does come out.
I was using EB GB leak based ROM with and without OC kernel. Other then a different look and feel, not much of an upgrade in the update. the only performance improvements were result of EB tweaks and the kernels- not GB 2.3. Am back on 2.2.2 with OC UV kernel, as it has original camera and is pretty stable.
Android 2.4 on the other hand would be a major upgrade, as it is optimized for duel core - 2.3 is not. It might be out on other devices this month - but we would be lucky to see it on the G2X this year (unless the Dev's port it over).
At least the OTA should still have the basic stock apps - like the HD camera - which the GB leak did not. Then the Dev's can work directly off of a G2X specific ROM. But you will not see any significant improvements with 2.3 by itself.
If you are rooted, you could get a GB them, flash it, and pretend.

gaww said:
You may be disappointed when it does come out.
I was using EB GB leak based ROM with and without OC kernel. Other then a different look and feel, not much of an upgrade in the update. the only performance improvements were result of EB tweaks and the kernels- not GB 2.3. Am back on 2.2.2 with OC UV kernel, as it has original camera and is pretty stable.
Android 2.4 on the other hand would be a major upgrade, as it is optimized for duel core - 2.3 is not. It might be out on other devices this month - but we would be lucky to see it on the G2X this year (unless the Dev's port it over).
At least the OTA should still have the basic stock apps - like the HD camera - which the GB leak did not. Then the Dev's can work directly off of a G2X specific ROM. But you will not see any significant improvements with 2.3 by itself.
If you are rooted, you could get a GB them, flash it, and pretend.
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Gb includes hardware accletated browsing. Copy and paste. And speed imporvememts.
Other little things as well.
Biggest thing?
IT WILL FIX THE REBOOTS AND WIFI. Officially.
So I don't think he or anyone else is going to be disappointed with that.
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gaww said:
You may be disappointed when it does come out.
I was using EB GB leak based ROM with and without OC kernel. Other then a different look and feel, not much of an upgrade in the update. the only performance improvements were result of EB tweaks and the kernels- not GB 2.3. Am back on 2.2.2 with OC UV kernel, as it has original camera and is pretty stable.
Android 2.4 on the other hand would be a major upgrade, as it is optimized for duel core - 2.3 is not. It might be out on other devices this month - but we would be lucky to see it on the G2X this year (unless the Dev's port it over).
At least the OTA should still have the basic stock apps - like the HD camera - which the GB leak did not. Then the Dev's can work directly off of a G2X specific ROM. But you will not see any significant improvements with 2.3 by itself.
If you are rooted, you could get a GB them, flash it, and pretend.
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I bet if u look back a few months u can find the same exact post but it will say something like froyo isn't to big an upgrade its gingerbread we really want....lol. no one is ever happy. Android 2.3.4 is pretty nice in my opinion. I could care less about 2.4 and what its potentially going to bring to the table. Its android and it beats any other OS out ther no matter what revision
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i say op you go to you local tmobile store and demand the rep behind the counter place 2.4 aka icecream on your phone don't settle for gb if they say no chunk the phone at him/her and turn over a few display stations on your way out. the call up tmobile's customer service and tell them that their store rep refused to place 2.4 on your phone and you want their job or you will throw a bf and write the president of the company.

mr.orange303 said:
Gb includes hardware accletated browsing. Copy and paste. And speed imporvememts.
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GB has hardware accelerated browsing?! I thought only the SGS2 had a hardware accelerated browser?

The GB leak was just that, an unfinished leak that still needed work. The official update will most likely be a lot better.
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Memnoch30 said:
GB has hardware accelerated browsing?! I thought only the SGS2 had a hardware accelerated browser?
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You are correct. Only the SGS and SGS2 have a hardware accelerated browser.

XPLANE9 said:
You are correct. Only the SGS and SGS2 have a hardware accelerated browser.
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But its in gingerbread. Not froyo.
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mr.orange303 said:
But its in gingerbread. Not froyo.
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But then it's not in AOSP as the Nexus One and Nexus S would have accelerated browsers too.

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But then it's not in AOSP as the Nexus One and Nexus S would have accelerated browsers too.
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OK. Let me rephrase its gingerbread that has it. Does not exist until 2.3
The g2x does indeed do it for flash.
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Why would the GB update come with Sense 2.1 and not 3.0?

Topic.
(http://www.androidcentral.com/thunderbolt-update-may-bring-gingerbread-skype-video-along-reboot-fix)

I was wondering that myself when I saw this ...
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YankInDaSouth said:
I was wondering that myself when I saw this ...
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I think it has been stated that we would only get sense 2.1 when our GB comes. Plus if you remember the leak did have 2.1.

If I'm not mistaken, the evo has gb now but sense is still the same as it was when the phone came out a year ago. It seems to be HTCs MO to only upgrade sense on newer devices and leave the rest out in the cold.
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This is why we root our phones, so when HTC decides that our phone cant handle sense 3.0 when really it can we can still get it

They've already stated they feel its too CPU taxing for their 1Ghz single core processors. Simple as that. Judging by the reviews of the Sensation's speed/lag they may be on to something for a STOCK CPU tune where they are interested in longevity and reliably as opposed to us rooters who don't mind pushing all the hardware for everything It's worth. From personal experience the 3.0 port/preview NEEDS overclocking to perform well, something that ain't happening in an OTA update.
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stanlalee said:
They've already stated they feel its too CPU taxing for their 1Ghz single core processors. Simple as that. Judging by the reviews of the Sensation's speed/lag they may be on to something for a STOCK CPU tune where they are interested in longevity and reliably as opposed to us rooters who don't mind pushing all the hardware for everything It's worth. From personal experience the 3.0 port/preview NEEDS overclocking to perform well, something that ain't happening in an OTA update.
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just adding my two cents. had made a thread earlier and I along with a few others I know and have read about feel that it isn't sense that is causing lag, but the fact that the dual core does not run simultaneously like the tegra 2 and exynos. but like I said, that's just my opinion.

I know I'm in the minority here, but I don't like sense 3.0. It's starting to become distracting to android and not just a skin...

I honestly don't know a thing about sense 3. I was just wondering why the tb wasnt getting it
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HTC has already come out and said that parts of Sense 3 are incompatible with older devices but they will be bringing the elements that are still compatible over to Sense that is compatible with the device.

Neverendingxsin said:
This is why we root our phones, so when HTC decides that our phone cant handle sense 3.0 when really it can we can still get it
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Agree 100%, we already have the option for Sense 3.0 thanks to dasBAMF and it's only going to get better and better.

Guys just so you know that update you see is fake. It was made by some trolls. But yes it will be 2.1
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Nikolai2.1 said:
Guys just so you know that update you see is fake. It was made by some trolls. But yes it will be 2.1
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Source?
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I'm just happy I can use das bamf to have a lot of the sense 3.0 elements. So far I've been able to run it smoothly but I do overclock...

I'm running Das Bamf 3 pr 4. Very happy with it and love sense 3. No lag issues that I have noticed. No special settings other than stock rom settings. Not surprising that HTC is staying conservative.

DasBAMF Sense 3.0 available in Development threads now. Hmm, works just fine on my phone. Thanks to XDA Devs. They're the Best.

Neverendingxsin said:
This is why we root our phones, so when HTC decides that our phone cant handle sense 3.0 when really it can we can still get it
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Amen, brother. +1!

GB updates stock to 2.1 so you're forced to buy a new HTC phone with Sense 3.0 if you really want it.
Or you could just root and flash BAMF Sense 3.0 GB RC1... your call.

iheartrevenge said:
GB updates stock to 2.1 so you're forced to buy a new HTC phone with Sense 3.0 if you really want it.
Or you could just root and flash BAMF Sense 3.0 GB RC1... your call.
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Exactly. They consider Sense 3.0 to be a big selling point. They'd rather you buy a new phone that includes it than give it to you as a free update. They've already got our money at this point.

I think ima just give them more money and by EVO 3d...
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Android 2.3.4, Dual core support?

Just wondering, I'm running the stock t-mobile rom with 2.3.4, does this have dual core support? Are we even using both cores yet?

I think we are just using one core man .... I never see my other core active at all
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wait what really ?? we are only using one core ?.

DANOFDANGER said:
wait what really ?? we are only using one core ?.
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Iirc, 2.3.4 added preliminary support for dual core. But ics will be where dual core chips will actually be suppprted/used.
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geoffcorey said:
Iirc, 2.3.4 added preliminary support for dual core. But ics will be where dual core chips will actually be suppprted/used.
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wtf? R u serious? Why the hell wouldn't the phone be using both cores?
If it wasn't then it wouldn't run the rom's so smoothly end of.

dladz said:
wtf? R u serious? Why the hell wouldn't the phone be using both cores?
If it wasn't then it wouldn't run the rom's so smoothly end of.
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Preliminary support. That means it uses them, just inefficient, hence the big thing about ics being multi core focus.
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And where is this ics, when is this type of support going to be used ??.
Ice Cream Sandwich seems to be close for release, october slated date so cant wait..

DANOFDANGER said:
And where is this ics, when is this type of support going to be used ??.
Ice Cream Sandwich seems to be close for release, october slated date so cant wait..
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Ics = ice cream sandwich.
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I would say that only uses one core, discussing with Standard Quadrant tells me there is only one core, it is normal or is the problem of implementation?

Take a look in Faux123's kernel thread for more information on this

Matbiker said:
I would say that only uses one core, discussing with Standard Quadrant tells me there is only one core, it is normal or is the problem of implementation?
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Quadrant will only be able to utilize one core because of how it's coded. Doesn't mean the system is only using one core.
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At least,is sensation use the one core or not?

My phone is pretty fast/smooth as is. What would dual core use really accomplish aside from more battery drain? Or perhaps, the power use will get better?
The only thing I would like to see faster is the internet/data features. Websites could open faster, ect.
Matt

Should I? Should I not? Should I?

Hi,
HTC have released some awesome phones like the One X and my god it is fantastic, but the question is, shall I sell my Galaxy Nexus for the HTC?
The good points from the nexus are that I would be that I would be supporting to the next Android with no worry.
But the HTC would be more than capable for running the next Android version as its hardware is far better. Also I like the 1.5GHz Quad Core processor with nvidia tegra. But the updates that I would get will be later than the Nexus and also HTC are a pain to root with the boot loader and EXT partitions
What should I do?
Thanks Guys
Weeo
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And also, is it too early to get a QC phone and wait till they get better?
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You should get the HTC. The specs whoop the Nexus's ass!

weeo said:
But the HTC would be more than capable for running the next Android version as its hardware is far better.
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The question isn't whether it's capable, but when the manufacturer releases the update. Currently, none of them have yet released a Gingerbread -> ICS update, and it's already been 5 months.

thebobp said:
The question isn't whether it's capable, but when the manufacturer releases the update. Currently, none of them have yet released a Gingerbread -> ICS update, and it's already been 5 months.
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Yeah True, except I would do a custom rom of an aosp build. I'm gonna get the HTC then. Wow then ill have a QuadCore phone + a QuadCore tablet ill be quad cored
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for me its all about the hardware... since software can always be modified... the one x holds more potential hardware wise...

Do ittt!!!

I would wait for people to test it first...I am a bit worried with the battery stamina from One X
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With the Nexus, you do not have to wait to constructor update, you will always get the last Android's version.
But HTC phones are more powerfull and XDA community will let you have the new Android OS

Cheers people. Ill get the HTC
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What's the probability of Key Lime Pie breaking the G2X again?

I could be wrong, but does it have something do with proprietary drivers not being compatible with the linux kernel version that each new major Android version requires?

Now I'm just thinking to get Jelly Bean! I'm not even worried about the next big update from Google!
One thing at the time!

I've already accepted that the G2x won't get KLP
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Really getting ahead of yourself aren't you?
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C'mon man even Arnold left the terminator 4 alone.... just learn to let go of things will ya? after JB ofcourse
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How about this question them: Do major android revisions require a newer kernel version, and if so, is that why the proprietary video drivers get broken after a major release?

The major issue was that with 4.0 ICS, Google fundamentally changed the way that Android operated, so that the operating system and the apps would use hardware-based graphical acceleration. The drivers for this were not available for the G2x because NVidia was trying very hard to stop supporting the old Tegra 2 CPUs, or something, I don't know, there was drama and everybody was blaming everyone else.
Now that we've had updates for the su660 and the p990 with kernel source code and proprietary hardware acceleration drivers for ICS, this should let us keep basic compatibility through most of the future Android versions.
Obviously as it gets more features added it might become too bulky and CPU-intensive for our phones, but that shouldn't be for a while.
The only major breakage I can think of is if a future version of Android requires the NEON instruction set, which the Tegra 2 does not support.
The kernel itself being updated shouldn't be much of an issue.

Ram requirements will be a problem.
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Depending on when klp comes out I hope the g2x can run it. This phone had to last me a bit longer till I get rid of debt and save to buy a nexus 4
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kurbstar said:
How about this question them: Do major android revisions require a newer kernel version, and if so, is that why the proprietary video drivers get broken after a major release?
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The culprit is NVIDIA. They have not followed Linux guide lines. Their drivers are tied to specific kernel versions.
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Speculation about KLP when we haven't got ICS or even Jellybean or CM10 is self-abuse and surely will lead to total madness.

Core Memory said:
Speculation about KLP when we haven't got ICS or even Jellybean or CM10 is self-abuse and surely will lead to total madness.
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Totally agree.
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kesara said:
The culprit is NVIDIA. They have not followed Linux guide lines. Their drivers are tied to specific kernel versions.
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is it because of limitations of the drivers, or just for ****s and giggles? AMD does the same crap, and considering the Radeon 3650 on my Thinkpad T500 isn't getting regular updates anymore to compensate for updated kernels, I'm stuck with the subpar open source drivers.
And I didn't intend on starting some sort of war....I was just generally curious