Any info on when this might released in canada.
I am on ATT and I feel terrible that another great handset is going to T mobile and F**** att is not interested. Carriers in Canada like rogers and telus have the same band for ATT.
( But again no 4G )
So curious to know if canada is getting one.
Just letting you know that Telus AND Bell use a 4G network (HSPA+)
The DHD actually came out on what was considered a 3G+ network, with DL speeds up to 14 Mb/s, which is really the American 4G standard. With Telus' LTE coming in soon, you can expect DL speeds up to 75 Mb/s... So yeah, canadians don't really lag behind in that aspect!
As for the phone coming out here, Bell and Telus are big fans of HTC, and Bell even launched the Incredible S! So I'd say the chances are pretty good for it to come out here... Only thing is that if it comes to Telus, it might take a few months, as they tend to take their time with phone launches, and Rogers is just a Sony fan...
is Telus received the HTC Deasire HD and the first Desire look to see the Sensation on Telus as well but Telus has issues with taking to long to release phones but dont be suprised to see the phone with bell as well since the Atrix was a hit and miss
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Just letting you know that Telus AND Bell use a 4G network (HSPA+)
The DHD actually came out on what was considered a 3G+ network, with DL speeds up to 14 Mb/s, which is really the American 4G standard. With Telus' LTE coming in soon, you can expect DL speeds up to 75 Mb/s... So yeah, canadians don't really lag behind in that aspect!
As for the phone coming out here, Bell and Telus are big fans of HTC, and Bell even launched the Incredible S! So I'd say the chances are pretty good for it to come out here... Only thing is that if it comes to Telus, it might take a few months, as they tend to take their time with phone launches, and Rogers is just a Sony fan...
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I dint mean to say that US was ahead in terms of 4G. I thought the band for 4G was different between the networks. However its really good to know they are the same. Will be jumping to get hold of sensation when its released in canada.
Now have to find out someone to ship me one
TheSobadef said:
Just letting you know that Telus AND Bell use a 4G network (HSPA+)
The DHD actually came out on what was considered a 3G+ network, with DL speeds up to 14 Mb/s, which is really the American 4G standard. With Telus' LTE coming in soon, you can expect DL speeds up to 75 Mb/s... So yeah, canadians don't really lag behind in that aspect!
As for the phone coming out here, Bell and Telus are big fans of HTC, and Bell even launched the Incredible S! So I'd say the chances are pretty good for it to come out here... Only thing is that if it comes to Telus, it might take a few months, as they tend to take their time with phone launches, and Rogers is just a Sony fan...
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Rogers uses the same type of HSPA+ network as well.. I really wish they wouldn't call it 4g though.
Having been on both sides , I miss the net speeds in Canada.
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Is this phone going to work properly on rogers?
I've read that on rogers its only going to get 2G speeds...
I've been waiting for rogers to get a good phone for almost a year now, I'm going to leave if they don't get any good phones soon.
Rogers, Bell and Telus use 1900MHz for 3G.
The Sensation uses 1700MHz.
If you want a carrier that's compatible with the Sensation, you need Mobilicity (ME!) or Wind.
I think htc will release one with a compatible band
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Rogers, Bell and Telus use 1900MHz for 3G.
The Sensation uses 1700MHz.
If you want a carrier that's compatible with the Sensation, you need Mobilicity (ME!) or Wind.
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The G2 was released with T-Mobile bands, then later released with support for 1900 as the Desire Z. I'm returning my Nexus S and am going to stick with the Nexus One for the time being - I really hope this model makes it to Telus. There's nothing about it that I'd change other than maybe a bigger battery. Sense is tolerable.
Thracks said:
Rogers, Bell and Telus use 1900MHz for 3G.
The Sensation uses 1700MHz.
If you want a carrier that's compatible with the Sensation, you need Mobilicity (ME!) or Wind.
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Actually,
Rogers, Telus and Bell use 850/1900 for 3G, and many phones with just the 850 UMTS frequency work on these networks (i.e. The Australian HTC HD2)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_UMTS_networks
Thracks said:
Rogers, Bell and Telus use 1900MHz for 3G.
The Sensation uses 1700MHz.
If you want a carrier that's compatible with the Sensation, you need Mobilicity (ME!) or Wind.
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The sensation only uses 1700 in the US for T-Mobile. But who cares about 1700? No one ****ing uses that band. 2100 is what's used worldwide, and that's the sensation the world will get. What we're wondering is when a 850/1900 Sensation will hit.
As an AT&T customer, I'm not even counting on AT&T to get it, nor do I care if they get the phone. I don't want to be thrown on their smartphone data plan anyway. I like importing phones and slapping a SIM in so I can keep going on the $15/plan
Anyway, so if Canada carries the Sensation, that means it will come in 850/1900 flavors.
Even if u have a smartphone u can still use the 15$ plan
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Even if u have a smartphone u can still use the 15$ plan
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If you use a non carrier smartphone you can get away with it. AT&T's not gonna make a huge list of all the smartphones in the world and blacklist them from the $15 plan.
They did it for the N1 but taht's because it was sold in the US targetted @ AT&T customers with the 850/1900 bands.
They can only really control the phones they sell to make sure that if you want data with their phones, if it's a smartphone you will be on the $30 plan. Suck it ATT.
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if it's a smartphone you will be on the $30 plan. Suck it ATT.
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This is no longer valid.
Att has changed the rules now. Even if u have a smartphone u can have the 15$ plan.
My wife has iphone and she is on 15$ plan
drgopoos said:
This is no longer valid.
Att has changed the rules now. Even if u have a smartphone u can have the 15$ plan.
My wife has iphone and she is on 15$ plan
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Well AT&T is rather nice to you. Up here in Canada, Rogers (AT&T's counterpart in Canada) forces you into a minimum $45 Data Plan if you upgrade from a normal phone to a smartphone. Negotiations never seem to work unless you're extremely lucky, or know someone in the business.
On the topic of the Sensation coming to Canada, I have my doubts on Rogers getting it. They haven't supported many HTC devices in the past, and I doubt they will now. Rogers always carries Samsung and LG, with the occasional Sony Ericsson device.
I'd be willing to put money on Telus and/or Bell getting the Sensation, while Rogers probably taking the Galaxy S II.
If the phone comes out on telus or bell ill still be happy, since telus/bell/rogers all use the same 3G bands now.
Actually in Canada, for BlackBerry you need a minimum of $40 V&D, but for any other smartphone, it's $50... That said, I hear in the US V&D plans can go as high as $100 (here too, but they're the exception, not the norm). Unfortunately though, around these parts most plans don't come with more than 1GB of data.
One of the benefits of our plans though, is that download speeds destroy US speeds. LTE here is 125 Mb/s vs the 14 Mb/s you guys get. For us 14 Mb/s is considered regular HSPA+ (3G+).
As a Bestbuy mobile rep though, I get a fair plan for myself ($35 all incl) for my V&D plan that gives me all the add-ons i need (unlimited txt, Caller ID, VM, early nights) + 200 min and 1 GB data. Pretty good if you ask me
As a Telus customer though, and back on topic, whichever new phone to come out first to Bell or Telus (Sensation or S2), will be the one I buy. I'm hoping both will launch this summer, but I don't really feel like leaving Telus unless I have to...
I am hoping that the sensation gets a GSM release. Being it supports the MAP bluetooth profile, i would like to get a Android phone for my Focus to work with the My ford touch system. There are no android phones in canada that i know of that work with that profile.
When is the glaxy s2 supposed to be released in canada?
ive been with every big phone supplier 4 at least afew weeks and htc is the only 1 im interested in. the galaxy s could be a great phone but they dont give you enough great features. if samsung had its own "friendstream" style social widget, it woyuld compete. but after flahsing sense 3.0 on my desire hd, ill never go back to plain android. every company's UI look sboring in comparision to sense 3.0. only flaw with htc right now is psx4droid doesnt work on the updated sense ui. oncenthat is fixed, this is easily the best brand phone
Will the i9020A version of the Nexus S (which is I think the model sold by Koodo Mobile in Canada) get 3G connection on the AWS spectrum used by Mobilicity? (I believe this should be the same as TMobile)?
Also, is there such a thing as a carrier locked Nexus S? I want to buy the Koodo Mobile Nexus S for $425 off contract (cheapest I can find), but I want to use it on the Mobilicity network. Will I need to carrier unlock the device somehow? I can't seem to find any "unlock Nexus S" sources, so I assume this is unnecessary?
The more I look into this issue, the more confused I get. A lot of places say the Nexus S is quad-band GSM + AWS, so doesn't that mean I should be able to get 3G from anywhere? The FAQ on this forum states that the original Nexus S can only get 3G speeds on TMobile's AWS band--conversely, does that then mean that the new "AT&T" Nexus S phones can't get 3G speeds on AWS? i.e. Do I need to buy a phone from an AWS carrier to get 3G?
Blindsight51 said:
Will the i9020A version of the Nexus S (which is I think the model sold by Koodo Mobile in Canada) get 3G connection on the AWS spectrum used by Mobilicity? (I believe this should be the same as TMobile)?
Also, is there such a thing as a carrier locked Nexus S? I want to buy the Koodo Mobile Nexus S for $425 off contract (cheapest I can find), but I want to use it on the Mobilicity network. Will I need to carrier unlock the device somehow? I can't seem to find any "unlock Nexus S" sources, so I assume this is unnecessary?
The more I look into this issue, the more confused I get. A lot of places say the Nexus S is quad-band GSM + AWS, so doesn't that mean I should be able to get 3G from anywhere? The FAQ on this forum states that the original Nexus S can only get 3G speeds on TMobile's AWS band--conversely, does that then mean that the new "AT&T" Nexus S phones can't get 3G speeds on AWS? i.e. Do I need to buy a phone from an AWS carrier to get 3G?
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I am in canada, just bought NS finally, that too from Koodo, and it is an Unlocked Rogers/AT&T/Bell/Telus/Fido compatible version. Not to mention it will work with any other bands in the world except the situation Wind/Mobilicity have.
Their phone system is not backwards compatible, they came out in the market just about 2 years ago, they started off with 3G/3.5G straight where Rogers initially started with Standard, moved on to Edge/2G/2.5G and upgraded themselves to 3G and eventually 3.5G, same goes for Telus/Bell/Fido.
If you purchase any of Wind/Mobilicity phone, they will be compatible with any other careers in the world, but you will not get 3G if tried on UMTS. Their phones will only work on the AWS 3G frequency. Which in case means if you bought wind/mobilicity compatible phone, you will get 2G/Edge on Rogers.
Other way around - Koodo phone with Wind/Mobilicity SIM - will give you Wind/Mobilicity Away network only, means it is useless for you. The only phone in canadian market works with Rogers and Wind 3G frequency is Nokia N8 which is a Pentaband phone. Nexus S on the other hand is a Quadband phone, and is made specifically for the career, thats why we have 3/4 different versions, AWS, UMTS, 4G to work with Sprint in US and i guess there is one other model for India and China as well.
All the Nexus S variants come unlocked, outright or on contract, as its a Google's own baby and they don't lock it except the bootloader.
I bought mine with Koodo from Future Shop as it is listed as not an outright sale on Koodo's website, but FS and BBY do sell them outright. It is unlocked out of the box, just pop your SIM in and you are good to go assuming you are going to go with Rogers/Bell/Telus/Koodo/Fido.
My two cents, go with Wind, they offer you wind tab, pay 350 + tax and use the phone to pay the rest of the money with wind tab and you are set if you really want Wind compatible phone.
I had the same problem and dilemma like you as I had a Desire Z with Bell and wanted to use it on Wind, ended up trading it with G2 from T-Mobile and used Wind mobile 3G network and Rogers 2G/Edge network up until now(I am with Rogers and have got a better deal with them for data, so no need to carry two phones on me anymore )
Hope this helps.
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Blindsight51 said:
Will the i9020A version of the Nexus S (which is I think the model sold by Koodo Mobile in Canada) get 3G connection on the AWS spectrum used by Mobilicity? (I believe this should be the same as TMobile)?
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it will not work
you need i9020T not A
AWS only comes on the i9020T
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I am in canada, just bought NS finally, that too from Koodo, and it is ...
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Hope this helps.
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Thanks so much. That explains it very clearly. I guess I'll need to shell out a bit extra and get a phone from Wind or Mobilicity.
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Go for it bud... u wont regret...
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i've been waiting for this phone for quite awhile (G2X and 2x) but i have no idea when any of the carriers in Canada are going to get it. what i'd like to know specifically is if i could buy an unlocked one and use it on the Bell network, are the frequencies the same for Bell and T-Mobile?
No it wont work on Bell.
2G only on Rogers Fido Chatr
3G only on Wind Mobilicity
Hemi-Cuda said:
i've been waiting for this phone for quite awhile (G2X and 2x) but i have no idea when any of the carriers in Canada are going to get it. what i'd like to know specifically is if i could buy an unlocked one and use it on the Bell network, are the frequencies the same for Bell and T-Mobile?
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I have a friend on Bell and their network is compatible with AT&T's not TMOs. He wanted a g2x as well but when he found out their was no support for Bell's 3G network he opted for a different phone.
Hello all,
I've lurked for a while, but finally got around to making an account and posting!
Anyways, I was wondering it it's possible to convert a T-Mobile Sensation to work with AT&T's 850/1900 3G network. Yes, I know they use different bands yada yada, however, many websites list the device has having quad-band UMTS.
So far users that have unlocked and used the T-Mobile Sensation on AT&T have confirmed that it does not work with AT&T 3G.
Considering the AT&T/T-Mobile merger, it is possible that HTC threw in a radio capable of AT&T's 3G bands and had them disabled. This would give them the option to enable those bands if the merger goes through. This would also lend credence to all the spec sheets out there that claim the device is quad-band UMTS.
If the hardware is there then it's simply a matter of using software that enables the 850/1900 bands.
Perhaps one could flash a radio from the Bell Sensation on the T-Mobile Sensation? Radio might not be the right term, but maybe there's a file or files (modem? baseband?) that can be sourced from the Bell Sensation and flashed to the T-Mobile Sensation?
Perhaps there's a service menu like there was for certain versions of the Galaxy S?
Anybody have any ideas or experience with this?
Why not just buy the bell sensation? I'm using it on ATT 3g with no issues.
kindroid hit the nail on the head.
NO you need one with the proper bands.
sell yours on ebay and buy the proper one with the money you got from yours, or even try to trade someone there or in the marketplace here
kirdroid said:
Why not just buy the bell sensation? I'm using it on ATT 3g with no issues.
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I know, but cost is an issue as I'm a full time student. I looked into buying a z710a from Canada, but they're really expensive - $700 USD on Negri right now... I can get a T-Mobile Sensation 4G for around $350.
skygear said:
kindroid hit the nail on the head.
NO you need one with the proper bands.
sell yours on ebay and buy the proper one with the money you got from yours, or even try to trade someone there or in the marketplace here
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I tried trading over on Hofo, but no one's interested. I'll post in the Marketplace here later tonight.
Hi there,
I've done some googling on the topic and i can't seem to find a concrete answer, i was hoping one of you could help me out.
When my plan is finished in december, i'm planning on switching over to WIND mobile since their prices are WAY better than anything any other canadian provider has to offer. Unforunately, their network only really works with AWS compatible phones. Now, my friend had a rogers captivate and switched over to WIND no problem. My infuse is an ATT version (not sure if theres a difference) but theres no mention of AWS compatibility on phonegsm for the captivate or the infuse.
I'm thinking that in that case, the infuse is also compatible?
If anybody has a friend that uses WIND, would it be possible for you to pop in their sim card and see if it works?
Wind Mobile requires your equipment to transer on 1710–1800 MHz, and receive at 2100–2155 MHz.
Due to the fact that the Infuses radio can operate on both 1800 and 2100 Frequency, I would assume that it would work. However, if you go to a Wind Mobile store, they can test your phone for free.
projectvirtue said:
Hi there,
I've done some googling on the topic and i can't seem to find a concrete answer, i was hoping one of you could help me out.
When my plan is finished in december, i'm planning on switching over to WIND mobile since their prices are WAY better than anything any other canadian provider has to offer. Unforunately, their network only really works with AWS compatible phones. Now, my friend had a rogers captivate and switched over to WIND no problem. My infuse is an ATT version (not sure if theres a difference) but theres no mention of AWS compatibility on phonegsm for the captivate or the infuse.
I'm thinking that in that case, the infuse is also compatible?
If anybody has a friend that uses WIND, would it be possible for you to pop in their sim card and see if it works?
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If it's an AT&T phone, it's not AWS compatible - simple as that.
Try unlocking a T-Mobile phone, much higher chance of working.