i've been waiting for this phone for quite awhile (G2X and 2x) but i have no idea when any of the carriers in Canada are going to get it. what i'd like to know specifically is if i could buy an unlocked one and use it on the Bell network, are the frequencies the same for Bell and T-Mobile?
No it wont work on Bell.
2G only on Rogers Fido Chatr
3G only on Wind Mobilicity
Hemi-Cuda said:
i've been waiting for this phone for quite awhile (G2X and 2x) but i have no idea when any of the carriers in Canada are going to get it. what i'd like to know specifically is if i could buy an unlocked one and use it on the Bell network, are the frequencies the same for Bell and T-Mobile?
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I have a friend on Bell and their network is compatible with AT&T's not TMOs. He wanted a g2x as well but when he found out their was no support for Bell's 3G network he opted for a different phone.
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I like the Captivate better than the Vibrant. Will it allow me to use 3G on the T-Mobile network?
I believe you would only get edge on at&t.
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Technically it's the same type of network...
no, only EDGE. They have different 3G bands.
T-Mobile = 1700 MHz
ATT = 850 and 1900 MHz
we can use captivate in china with unicom
I have a Captivate on Tmobile.
Can confirm it's only Edge
I always snicker when I see these threads. T-Mo GSM =/= AT&T GSM. Yes there are common frequencies that all GSM phones use, but each carrier always has their own 3G frequency. None are shared.
While yes there are different GSM bands and yes T-mobile uses different GSM bands than AT&T, mostly all phones are quadband GSM nowadays and thus support but AT&T and T-mobile's GSM network. Even US triband GSM phones still has both AT&T and T-mobile's bands.
3G is where is it different. Not all phones support both T-mobiles and AT&T's 3g bands. Very few actually do. The Samsung Vibrant (another Galaxy S phone) supports T-mobile's 3G bands and can be changed in the service mode to support AT&T's 3G as well.
The Captivate is not the same. The Captivate can only support AT&T's 3G network and not T-mobile's 3G network. It will work on T-mobile's EDGE network.
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No they have a different bands for 3g, just because they use Sim cards doesnt mean it can run 3g on both networks
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I believe you would only get edge on at&t.
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Your wrong, the captivate is AT&T so you can 3G with AT&T and only Edge with tmobile
I'm also using the captivate on T-Mobile but can confirm that it's only on edge.
same situation with the nexus one. cant interchange or you can only get Edge
niceties of 3G
Wrong thread. I apologise!
vette95 said:
I just bought a Motorola Cliq (MB200). In Dominican Republic there are only 2 companies with 3G service. Claro Codetel (850Mhz) and Orange Dominicana (900Mhz)
Claro Codetel sells the Motorola Cliq for 3G usage on their network, branded to them of course.
The Cliq I bought is T-Mobile branded.
Is there ANY known way to debrand and have access to the 850 band for 3G?
I ask this question because I saw how it can be done on the Motorola Defy with a service flash found here, so I believe it should also be possible with my Moto Cliq.
I would really appreciate any input on this subject.
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Shouldn't you really be looking in those forums and not one for a Galaxy S phone?
Sorry, only did it because there were talks about other makes. I didn't realise it was a "Galaxy S Only" thread.
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I can get HSPDA over here in Malaysia.
Actually, both T-Mobile and AT&T phones work here. (2100Mhz 3G band)
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Sorry, only did it because there were talks about other makes. I didn't realise it was a "Galaxy S Only" thread.
How do I delete my post?
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Only phone mentioned here was the Captivate. Which is what this fora is for.
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Is EDGE service bad? the reason I ask is that I'm planning a trip from Nova Scotia to British Columbia, and going to be drive through the states. Cheaper Gas/Food/Lodging. you get the picture. I have a Captivate from Rogers which is unlocked and was thinking about getting a T-Mobile SIM card to use the Day Pass unlimited internet. However I don't understand what edge means and if this is a good thing or not. LOL
Thanks
Well at&t just bought t-mobile so maybe there will be a combining of signals?
studacris said:
Well at&t just bought t-mobile so maybe there will be a combining of signals?
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They haven't bought, they are attempting to buy.
DOJ and FCC still have to approve it.
@OP
No, the Captivate was designed to only be supported for AT&T 3G. It does have the 2100 band, which T-Mobile 3G uses, but T-Mobile uses both 1700/2100 for upload/download, so if you don't have both, it locks you into 3G.
Anyone tried to flash a Phone with 1700 enabled?
Hi everyone,
I'm currently in the USA for an internship and I'm tempted to buy an Inspire since it's so much cheaper than what it would cost back in the Netherlands. However I've searched a lot now and I can't figure this out.
Will the Inspire work on my network back in the Netherlands? I'm on T-mobile. I'm sure GSM will work and so on, but I would really like to know if 3G and even 4G will work back at home?
So, bottomline, buy or don't buy ?
,Jordy
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Hi everyone,
I'm currently in the USA for an internship and I'm tempted to buy an Inspire since it's so much cheaper than what it would cost back in the Netherlands. However I've searched a lot now and I can't figure this out.
Will the Inspire work on my network back in the Netherlands? I'm on T-mobile. I'm sure GSM will work and so on, but I would really like to know if 3G and even 4G will work back at home?
So, bottomline, buy or don't buy ?
,Jordy
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Yes it will work but, if you want to use it on another gsm network in the Netherlands you will need to unlock it. I suggest you root it using the ace hack kit. I tested this method and I can say my phone is unlocked.
4G on the Inspire is HSDPA+ its just a upgraded 3g network. If your network in the Netherlands supports this you will have the same speeds or faster. Just check the freq for you home network with the inspire tech spec. I suspect it will work since its the same phone as the Desire HD sold in Europe.
Frixxion said:
Hi everyone,
I'm currently in the USA for an internship and I'm tempted to buy an Inspire since it's so much cheaper than what it would cost back in the Netherlands. However I've searched a lot now and I can't figure this out.
Will the Inspire work on my network back in the Netherlands? I'm on T-mobile. I'm sure GSM will work and so on, but I would really like to know if 3G and even 4G will work back at home?
So, bottomline, buy or don't buy ?
,Jordy
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Not if T-Mobile is your provider, T-Mobiles 3G/HSPA+ network uses different frequencies than the Inspire operates on. T-Mobile uses 1700/2100 for their 3G/HSPA+. ATT and the Inspire use 850/1900 (which T-Mobile uses for Edge). So with T-Mobile you'll get voice and Edge data, but no 3G/4G
Inspire Specs
T-Mobile Wiki
homeslice976 said:
Not if T-Mobile is your provider, T-Mobiles 3G/HSPA+ network uses different frequencies than the Inspire operates on. T-Mobile uses 1700/2100 for their 3G/HSPA+. ATT and the Inspire use 850/1900 (which T-Mobile uses for Edge). So with T-Mobile you'll get voice and Edge data, but no 3G/4G
Inspire Specs
T-Mobile Wiki
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T-Mobile in Europe uses different frequencies than T-Mobile in the US (probably 900MHz or 2100MHz), but regardless, the Inspire won't support them.
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T-Mobile in Europe uses different frequencies than T-Mobile in the US (probably 900MHz or 2100MHz), but regardless, the Inspire won't support them.
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Good point. Looks like T-Mobile in the netherlands uses GSM1800 and WCDMA2100 - which won't give you high speed data on the Inspire
The Inspire does not suppprt 3g bands that are commonly used outside of north america, so while the phone will generally work, you can only get 2g (edge) data in Europe/Asia/etc..
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Will the i9020A version of the Nexus S (which is I think the model sold by Koodo Mobile in Canada) get 3G connection on the AWS spectrum used by Mobilicity? (I believe this should be the same as TMobile)?
Also, is there such a thing as a carrier locked Nexus S? I want to buy the Koodo Mobile Nexus S for $425 off contract (cheapest I can find), but I want to use it on the Mobilicity network. Will I need to carrier unlock the device somehow? I can't seem to find any "unlock Nexus S" sources, so I assume this is unnecessary?
The more I look into this issue, the more confused I get. A lot of places say the Nexus S is quad-band GSM + AWS, so doesn't that mean I should be able to get 3G from anywhere? The FAQ on this forum states that the original Nexus S can only get 3G speeds on TMobile's AWS band--conversely, does that then mean that the new "AT&T" Nexus S phones can't get 3G speeds on AWS? i.e. Do I need to buy a phone from an AWS carrier to get 3G?
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Will the i9020A version of the Nexus S (which is I think the model sold by Koodo Mobile in Canada) get 3G connection on the AWS spectrum used by Mobilicity? (I believe this should be the same as TMobile)?
Also, is there such a thing as a carrier locked Nexus S? I want to buy the Koodo Mobile Nexus S for $425 off contract (cheapest I can find), but I want to use it on the Mobilicity network. Will I need to carrier unlock the device somehow? I can't seem to find any "unlock Nexus S" sources, so I assume this is unnecessary?
The more I look into this issue, the more confused I get. A lot of places say the Nexus S is quad-band GSM + AWS, so doesn't that mean I should be able to get 3G from anywhere? The FAQ on this forum states that the original Nexus S can only get 3G speeds on TMobile's AWS band--conversely, does that then mean that the new "AT&T" Nexus S phones can't get 3G speeds on AWS? i.e. Do I need to buy a phone from an AWS carrier to get 3G?
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I am in canada, just bought NS finally, that too from Koodo, and it is an Unlocked Rogers/AT&T/Bell/Telus/Fido compatible version. Not to mention it will work with any other bands in the world except the situation Wind/Mobilicity have.
Their phone system is not backwards compatible, they came out in the market just about 2 years ago, they started off with 3G/3.5G straight where Rogers initially started with Standard, moved on to Edge/2G/2.5G and upgraded themselves to 3G and eventually 3.5G, same goes for Telus/Bell/Fido.
If you purchase any of Wind/Mobilicity phone, they will be compatible with any other careers in the world, but you will not get 3G if tried on UMTS. Their phones will only work on the AWS 3G frequency. Which in case means if you bought wind/mobilicity compatible phone, you will get 2G/Edge on Rogers.
Other way around - Koodo phone with Wind/Mobilicity SIM - will give you Wind/Mobilicity Away network only, means it is useless for you. The only phone in canadian market works with Rogers and Wind 3G frequency is Nokia N8 which is a Pentaband phone. Nexus S on the other hand is a Quadband phone, and is made specifically for the career, thats why we have 3/4 different versions, AWS, UMTS, 4G to work with Sprint in US and i guess there is one other model for India and China as well.
All the Nexus S variants come unlocked, outright or on contract, as its a Google's own baby and they don't lock it except the bootloader.
I bought mine with Koodo from Future Shop as it is listed as not an outright sale on Koodo's website, but FS and BBY do sell them outright. It is unlocked out of the box, just pop your SIM in and you are good to go assuming you are going to go with Rogers/Bell/Telus/Koodo/Fido.
My two cents, go with Wind, they offer you wind tab, pay 350 + tax and use the phone to pay the rest of the money with wind tab and you are set if you really want Wind compatible phone.
I had the same problem and dilemma like you as I had a Desire Z with Bell and wanted to use it on Wind, ended up trading it with G2 from T-Mobile and used Wind mobile 3G network and Rogers 2G/Edge network up until now(I am with Rogers and have got a better deal with them for data, so no need to carry two phones on me anymore )
Hope this helps.
CreativeDevil
Blindsight51 said:
Will the i9020A version of the Nexus S (which is I think the model sold by Koodo Mobile in Canada) get 3G connection on the AWS spectrum used by Mobilicity? (I believe this should be the same as TMobile)?
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it will not work
you need i9020T not A
AWS only comes on the i9020T
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I am in canada, just bought NS finally, that too from Koodo, and it is ...
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Hope this helps.
CreativeDevil
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Thanks so much. That explains it very clearly. I guess I'll need to shell out a bit extra and get a phone from Wind or Mobilicity.
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Go for it bud... u wont regret...
Creativedevil
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I know this sounds like an utter newb question but Bell and all the resources I've checked are very ambiguous as to which bands it supports. I haven't been with them for a while and the resources online about Bell's network are ancient and unreliable. Just can't get a straight answer.
If so, I'm highly interested in getting a Sensation. Anyone wanna trade for an AT&T Atrix?
Unfortunately, it wont. Just like AT&T/Rogers, Bell uses 850/1900 frequencies for 3g, and this phone uses 1700/AWS. And for 2g, correct me if I'm wrong, but Bell uses CDMA technology for 2g, while AT&T, Rogers, And T-mobile use GSM for 2g, and this phone is a GSM phone.
This phone would work on Rogers, but from what I understand, it won't work on Telus or Bell.
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Unfortunately, it wont. Just like AT&T/Rogers, Bell uses 850/1900 frequencies for 3g, and this phone uses 1700/AWS. And for 2g, correct me if I'm wrong, but Bell uses CDMA technology for 2g, while AT&T, Rogers, And T-mobile use GSM for 2g, and this phone is a GSM phone.
This phone would work on Rogers, but from what I understand, it won't work on Telus or Bell.
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Thank you. I thought I read something about Bell having rights to the 1700/AWS band but that it may only be used for their 2G network. So little accurate information about our ****ty Canadian providers.
I have two Atrix's because of an issue I had with the first one, but it's fixed now. AT&T and Bell Atrix.... maybe I'll switch back to Rogers and just foot the ETF. I don't know...
Hey guys,
My friend just bought a HTC Sensation for T mobile from the states, (we are from Canada) and he wants to connect it on his Telus contract. Yes he does have a sim card, and he had it unlocked already. The problem is he is not getting any service and when he goes into settings and tries to register his network it only comes up with Rogers? Now I know that T mobile runs at 1700 MHz/2100 MHz and Telus at 1900MHz, but from what I have read else where it should work? If not, would changing to possibly a Bell modem work for his handset, or is he SOL?
thanks guys!
Since Telus only uses "4G" for their network, (ie. no EDGE/2g) a Sensation from T-Mobile will not work on Telus at all. Tell him to sell it and buy the Bell version and unlock it.
Haugrud said:
Since Telus only uses "4G" for their network, (ie. no EDGE/2g) a Sensation from T-Mobile will not work on Telus at all. Tell him to sell it and buy the Bell version and unlock it.
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Do you mean T-Mobile only uses 4G? The HTC Sensation is a 4G phone? Hence the name HTC Sensation "4g"??
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Do you mean T-Mobile only uses 4G? The HTC Sensation is a 4G phone? Hence the name HTC Sensation "4g"??
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Different 3G/4G frequencies (1700 aka AWS for T-Mobile and 850/1900 for Telus).
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Different 3G/4G frequencies (1700 aka AWS for T-Mobile and 850/1900 for Telus).
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So like he said there is no way of getting this phone to run on Telus lol? That kinda sucks, I told him he should have bought the SGS II like I did
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So like he said there is no way of getting this phone to run on Telus lol? That kinda sucks, I told him he should have bought the SGS II like I did
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Yeap there is no way. Sell the phone to a WIND user and buy the unlocked Bell one.