seriously ive been wondering about this for a while now, and im just wondering which is truly better. HSPA+ or LTe? post speedtest pictures please...
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Idk... Look it up online.
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There are plenty of quotes on the boards, search is your friend.
It varies vastly by region. LTE is semi-consistent at 30Mbps+. HSPA+ can be anywhere from 1Mbps to 11Mbps. If LTE is available its the fastest connection available. But, its on limited markets on att.
Right now, lte is faster than hspa+ by around 10mbps (of course this can vary greatly). The difference is that lte is has much more potential. So in time, it's better to have an lte phone. But right now they are fairly comparable
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I see... Cause i really want lte but still want power like the original s2...
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I see... Cause i really want lte but still want power like the original s2...
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Yeah, the i777 is the best, most powerful phone on att. Maybe the Galaxy S III will have LTE, or maybe a Note with LTE. There was just a FCC application for a Galaxy Note with LTE on att bands, but isn't proof it will actually hit att subsidized.
The Vivid is supposed to be nice, but its crickets in the dev forum, they only got the bootloader unlocked a few days ago. That will probably be the best bet for LTE phone.
The Skyrocket is just different enough it will stay forever in obscurity. The Nitro HD is a normal LG phone on att ... good build quality, poor dev draw, and don't plan on timely updates.
Sent from my Galaxy S II (i777)
Another thing on LTE, if you are on the old unlimited plan tons of people are getting throttled down to near zero, sometimes at less than 2 GB. So all that speed is wasted, and anyone that knows enough to know they want the extra speed will probably not get to use it for long.
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Yeah, the i777 is the best, most powerful phone on att. Maybe the Galaxy S III will have LTE, or maybe a Note with LTE. There was just a FCC application for a Galaxy Note with LTE on att bands, but isn't proof it will actually hit att subsidized.
The Vivid is supposed to be nice, but its crickets in the dev forum, they only got the bootloader unlocked a few days ago. That will probably be the best bet for LTE phone.
The Skyrocket is just different enough it will stay forever in obscurity. The Nitro HD is a normal LG phone on att ... good build quality, poor dev draw, and don't plan on timely updates.
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Actually the skyrocket has an amazing dev community..mostly because of the fact that it can use the ROM's and Kernels of the T-mobile SGSII. And there is talk that it may be pentaband...the Radio's are interchangable as well.
Well this is interesting. How much are your guys speeds, and how much is your skyrocket if you have one?
are LTE network compatible with 4G? or LTE phones compatible with HSPDA+ phones? in other words, LTE phones and HSPDA+ phones work on different network or LTE phones can also receive HSPDA+ 4G data (functions)?
So i have read that T-mobile is getting LTE in 2013. Do that mean i have to get a new phone again, i wonder if my GS2 will get faster on the new network. And where the hell is my ICS update? This suppose to be their best phone as of now.
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are LTE network compatible with 4G? or LTE phones compatible with HSPDA+ phones? in other words, LTE phones and HSPDA+ phones work on different network or LTE phones can also receive HSPDA+ 4G data (functions)?
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LTE & HSPDA+ are both classified as '4G' but are different, incompatible systems.
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azumis said:
So i have read that T-mobile is getting LTE in 2013. Do that mean i have to get a new phone again, i wonder if my GS2 will get faster on the new network. And where the hell is my ICS update?
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Your phone will not run on LTE. But T-Mobile's HSTPS+ network is pretty fast and will be in operation for years to come, longer than you'll keep your present phone.
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so HSPDA+ and LTE has different network? LTE phones cannot receive HSPDA+ networks?
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Your phone will not run on LTE. But T-Mobile's HSTPS+ network is pretty fast and will be in operation for years to come, longer than you'll keep your present phone.
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what is HSTPS+ ? news says t-mobile is moving to LTE. currently released phone are HSPDA+ , so all the phones will not work with that?
http://www.phonearena.com/news/T-Mo...r-LTE-leaves-82Mbps-HSPA-plans-behind_id27474
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what is HSTPS+ ?
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A typo.
t-mobile is moving to LTE. currently released phone are HSPDA+ , so all the phones will not work with that?
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Present HSPDA+ phones will not work with LTE. I suppose some future phones may be capable of HSPDA+ and LTE. But my next phone will be HSPDA+. It will be around a long time, it's pretty fast and uses less battery power anyway.
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i have not seen 1 video anywhere showing htc inspire getting REAL hspa+ speed!
my samsung captivate with regular hspa getting better (higher) speed!
I am pretty sure that AT&T hasn't turned on their backhaul yet
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I am pretty sure that AT&T hasn't turned on their backhaul yet
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then why sent out hspa+ phone (inspire) for bloggers to review when hspa+ is not ready yet!
that is like car company sent out new cars (next year model) to reviewers but without the key! cus the engine is not ready yet?
I think the main purpose is to get the phone out and reviewed before the iPhone 4 goes to verizon. I personally care about battery life and os before it being faster than my current technology.
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I think the main purpose is to get the phone out and reviewed before the iPhone 4 goes to verizon. I personally care about battery life and os before it being faster than my current technology.
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most people want this phone cus it' HSPA+ otherwise if you just care about battery or OS, just get a phone with 1500mzh battery (samsung captivate). haha
Myself could care less about the network speed. Theres a lot more I like about this phone than hsdpa+
HSPA+ is a touchy subject these days. As we all know, all HSPA phones benefit when AT&T and T-Mobile increase their network speeds and backhaul. It really comes down to network congestion and how far away from a tower you are.
I have a friend who's on T-Mobile who gets better download speeds at his work (about 3 miles away from mine) with his Nexus One than I do with my HSPA+ capable T-Mobile G2.
Most older phones are capable of HSPA speeds up to 7 Mbps. So until T-Mobile and AT&T crank up the download speeds to 21 or 42 Mbps, most people will not see much of a difference between HSPA+ phones which are labeled as "4G" and your run-of-the-mill 3G handset.
so it' another ATT BS lie?
on att.com it said "evolve faster with speeds up to 4x faster* then at&t's already fast mobile broadband network"
i have not seen 1 speedtest anywhere that shows inspire able to get real hspa+ speed!
how you know it' not another samsung? (get it? samsung with fake gps, htc inspire with fake hspa+)
I think it hspa+ capable. Yes ATT 4g is probably not fully launched. I also dont get why a 4g phone is released without 4g speed. I get dl speed of 3mbps in Houston. Houston has very good ATT service. Very consistent all areas in Houston. I am very curious how consistent 4g is here in Houston. However when we have 4g it will be a upgrade from 3g. I was planning to wait for the phone til its offered for free. I just don't have the urge to replace my N1.
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so it' another ATT BS lie?
on att.com it said "evolve faster with speeds up to 4x faster* then at&t's already fast mobile broadband network"
i have not seen 1 speedtest anywhere that shows inspire able to get real hspa+ speed!
how you know it' not another samsung? (get it? samsung with fake gps, htc inspire with fake hspa+)
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The problem is the phone is definetly capable of the faster speeds it is just that AT&T at this time does not offer those speeds. Even with their 3G phones, the phones are very much capable of faster speeds then AT&T networks are putting out.
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HSPA+ is a touchy subject these days. As we all know, all HSPA phones benefit when AT&T and T-Mobile increase their network speeds and backhaul. It really comes down to network congestion and how far away from a tower you are.
I have a friend who's on T-Mobile who gets better download speeds at his work (about 3 miles away from mine) with his Nexus One than I do with my HSPA+ capable T-Mobile G2.
Most older phones are capable of HSPA speeds up to 7 Mbps. So until T-Mobile and AT&T crank up the download speeds to 21 or 42 Mbps, most people will not see much of a difference between HSPA+ phones which are labeled as "4G" and your run-of-the-mill 3G handset.
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exactly when the HSPA+ gets going all phones 3G and up should see a speed increase.
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The problem is the phone is definetly capable of the faster speeds it is just that AT&T at this time does not offer those speeds. Even with their 3G phones, the phones are very much capable of faster speeds then AT&T networks are putting out.
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and the samsung galaxy S (captivate) is definitely capable of gps navigation cus it has a gps chip? or maybe the bigger problem is htc inspire has defective hspa+ !!
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and the samsung galaxy S (captivate) is definitely capable of gps navigation cus it has a gps chip? or maybe the bigger problem is htc inspire has defective hspa+ !!
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and the samsung galaxy S (captivate) is definitely capable of gps navigation cus it has a gps chip? or maybe the bigger problem is htc inspire has defective hspa+ !!
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lol, no. I am pretty sure it is AT&T's network. You believe what you want though.
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lol, no. I am pretty sure it is AT&T's network. You believe what you want though.
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there' a word for that, it' call Denial
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there' a word for that, it' call Denial
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Obvious troll is obvious.
Maybe you should wait for the phone to come out before talking smack about it. Let's see how things pan out after the thing officially launches.
Ok guys arguing about this is pointless. Lets all calm down. Most times when The phones are sent out for review they are just that "Phone Reviews". When the network updates are ready then they will most likely due a new review comparing the 4G networks. There is alot more to a phone then how fast the connection is with the cell provider that can sway some one to decide to buy the phone.
As I can see this as heading to the flame war section I am gonna close this up now.
Does anyone know if the galaxy s 4g can be unlocked to work on AT&T 3G like the Vibrant was???
Once unlocked works on all NA gsm carriers
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Once unlocked works on all NA gsm carriers
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On AT&T's 3G band!?
stevm said:
Once unlocked works on all NA gsm carriers
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I doubt it, once unlocked it will work on all GSM carriers is true, but it is specifically built for T-Mobile frequency, AT&T has different frequency.
Similar to the situation we have in canada, Rogers Fido Bell Telus work on similar frequencies but Wind and Mobilicity work differently.
As Galaxy S 4G is meant for T-mobile, it will work 2g only with AT&T and for that sake with 4 major canadian providers too...
I would suggest to check what phones arw im at&t and check their specs and bands. Once you do that you will know wether it will work in at&t or not.
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Does anyone know if the galaxy s 4g can be unlocked to work on AT&T 3G like the Vibrant was???
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Yes, I can confirm that it does indeed have UTMS band 1900, just like the Vibrant. I'm using it right now on AT&T and I do get 3G...now if only I could figure out how to enable 4G.
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Yes, I can confirm that it does indeed have UTMS band 1900, just like the Vibrant. I'm using it right now on AT&T and I do get 3G...now if only I could figure out how to enable 4G.
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I can confirm that it works on AT&T 3G as well. You in fact get faster 3G speeds in some areas because AT&T has some different coverage than tmobile.
I unlocked the SGS4G for my Father In Law who is on AT&T, and it immediately connected to AT&T 3G. 4mbps/3mbps
It won't work on 4G though.
thats becuase at&t dosnt have 4g yeat eventhough they have 4g phones
Why not just get the vibrant instead of all it works on is 3g. It has much much more roms than this phone ever will especially with the release of the g2x and galaxy s2.
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I can confirm that it works on AT&T 3G as well. You in fact get faster 3G speeds in some areas because AT&T has some different coverage than tmobile.
I unlocked the SGS4G for my Father In Law who is on AT&T, and it immediately connected to AT&T 3G. 4mbps/3mbps
It won't work on 4G though.
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Why wouldn't 4G work? It's on the same bands, and if you have all the APN info, shouldn't it work?
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Why wouldn't 4G work? It's on the same bands, and if you have all the APN info, shouldn't it work?
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Because AT&T hasn't made any tower upgrades to increase speed.
Technically, you are on 4G, but receive 3G speeds.
With T-Mo, you WILL get 4G speeds (10mbps+), because they have the necessary tower upgrades to make that possible.
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I can confirm that it works on AT&T 3G as well. You in fact get faster 3G speeds in some areas because AT&T has some different coverage than tmobile.
I unlocked the SGS4G for my Father In Law who is on AT&T, and it immediately connected to AT&T 3G. 4mbps/3mbps
It won't work on 4G though.
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Anyone know where I can find a detailed (and updated) map showing which frequency is being used in specific areas? I'm [] this close to switch to AT&T and wouldn't mind using this until the iPhone refresh. But if I'm in 850MHZ area, I'll either trade it or sell it, as I originally intended to do.
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Anyone know where I can find a detailed (and updated) map showing which frequency is being used in specific areas? I'm [] this close to switch to AT&T and wouldn't mind using this until the iPhone refresh. But if I'm in 850MHZ area, I'll either trade it or sell it, as I originally intended to do.
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I'd skip out on switching to AT&T- they're terrible.
The 3G upload speeds are a joke, and coverage (at least in my area) is terrible. And don't even get me started on their Tech Support department.
As for the map though, I don't know of any public ones available.
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Because AT&T hasn't made any tower upgrades to increase speed.
Technically, you are on 4G, but receive 3G speeds.
With T-Mo, you WILL get 4G speeds (10mbps+), because they have the necessary tower upgrades to make that possible.
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What kind of upload speeds should you be getting then?
I'm getting less than 50kbps upload....
(In AT&T Full 3G Coverage Area)
My download is always around 2MBPS, which is strange, because my iPhone 4 got around 4MBPS in the same location...
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What kind of upload speeds should you be getting then?
I'm getting less than 50kbps upload....
(In AT&T Full 3G Coverage Area)
My download is always around 2MBPS, which is strange, because my iPhone 4 got around 4MBPS in the same location...
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With the upload thing, I may be wrong, but it's probably because they don't have HSUPA on.
And on the download thing with your iPhone, remember, your iPhone can take advantage of both 850MHz and 1900MHz, the GS4G can only take advantage of 1900MHz, so there will most likely be some variation in speeds.
Ahh, I never even knew that it was only 1900mhz compatible on 3G D:
So, does that in turn mean that my phone will not work on AT&T's "4G"? Because that's the main point of me getting this phone over the Nexus S.
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What kind of upload speeds should you be getting then?
I'm getting less than 50kbps upload....
(In AT&T Full 3G Coverage Area)
My download is always around 2MBPS, which is strange, because my iPhone 4 got around 4MBPS in the same location...
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Here in Vegas and surrounding henderson areas my Father in law was getting 4.5mpbs down and 2 up so it's fairly consistent but we have good ATT coverage here as well as Tmobile (which I'm on 4G).
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Here in Vegas and surrounding henderson areas my Father in law was getting 4.5mpbs down and 2 up so it's fairly consistent but we have good ATT coverage here as well as Tmobile (which I'm on 4G).
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I'd love to get speeds like that, but I'm in NY.
Worst.Network.Congestion.Ever
oooh and quick question, do you have a thread which has instructions to remove the "Pink" boot or shutdown screens?
Thankyou
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I'd love to get speeds like that, but I'm in NY.
Worst.Network.Congestion.Ever
oooh and quick question, do you have a thread which has instructions to remove the "Pink" boot or shutdown screens?
Thankyou
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Pretty straight forward if you are used to ADB or any other file managing software.
To disable shutdown just rename
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to be like /system/media/video/shutdownbackup
For the startup screen look here:
http://forum.cyanogenmod.com/topic/...t-software-not-suck/page__p__36615#entry36615
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Pretty straight forward if you are used to ADB or any other file managing software.
To disable shutdown just rename
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to be like /system/media/video/shutdownbackup
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Perfect...Took some time to get it working (this is my first time using ADB), but looks great.
Thank you!
Hey folks. I'm currently a Sprint customer thinking of switching to ATT after my upcoming deployment. I've browsed through 7 pages of this forum and seen some threads that dance around the questions I have, but none that conclusively answer them. I know right now ATT has HSPA+ as their "4g" tech, but from the looks of it they will be rolling out LTE in q4 of this year. I've seen conflicting posts throughout various threads about whether or not the Inspire has the hardware necessary to connect to LTE when it comes online. Can anyone give me a definitive yes/no? Also, does anyone know if ATT will be making their entire network HSPA+ compliant (regardless of LTE rollout)? Does anyone have a hard date on the LTE rollout (and phone options for it)?
No the Inspire does not have an LTE radio. As far as which phones will, they have not been announced yet.
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Hey folks. I'm currently a Sprint customer thinking of switching to ATT after my upcoming deployment. I've browsed through 7 pages of this forum and seen some threads that dance around the questions I have, but none that conclusively answer them. I know right now ATT has HSPA+ as their "4g" tech, but from the looks of it they will be rolling out LTE in q4 of this year. I've seen conflicting posts throughout various threads about whether or not the Inspire has the hardware necessary to connect to LTE when it comes online. Can anyone give me a definitive yes/no? Also, does anyone know if ATT will be making their entire network HSPA+ compliant (regardless of LTE rollout)? Does anyone have a hard date on the LTE rollout (and phone options for it)?
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No the inspire does not support LTE, no current Att phone does.
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As others have said, there are no LTE capable phones on AT&T's network at the moment. The first we'll probably see is the iPhone 5 (with future update), or iPhone 6, which is rumored to be available in the 2nd quarter of 2012.
At the moment, AT&T is banking real hard on the T-Mo deal going through so they have access to T-Mo's LTE spectrum, and that deal won't go through until early next year... If the FCC doesn't shut it down, that is.
No need to put out expensive LTE capable phones when you won't have a network to have them operate on till LATE this year, early next.
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No the Inspire does not have an LTE radio. As far as which phones will, they have not been announced yet.
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Would I be correct to assume that a simple Radio update could enable this and many other phones to be capable of LTE?
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Would I be correct to assume that a simple Radio update could enable this and many other phones to be capable of LTE?
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LTE will operate on a different frequency so it will not work afaik.
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LTE will operate on a different frequency so it will not work afaik.
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This.
LTE devices will work with a completely different technology, so for the same reason you can't just flash a Verizon (CDMA) phone to work on ATT (HSPA+), you can't flash an HSPA+ phone to work with LTE.
Will the infuse be able to run off the new lte network?
Even I know the answer to this...no
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No no no and..............???? No
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hold up a verizon lte phone to the infuse. the verizon phone will be twice as thick to hold that lte radio.
Nah ATT will have LTE in 5 cities by the end of the summer? I forgot, but yeah ATT is getting LTE.....
LTE is a different band therefore different modem. Infuse doesn't have an LTE modem/hardware. Done.s
Chatted with AT&T tech support Mark. He said "HSPA+ and LTE are one and the same". Can I believe this guy?
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Chatted with AT&T tech support Mark. He said "HSPA+ and LTE are one and the same". Can I believe this guy?
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no, but there are radio chipsets that can do both. I don't think the infuse has this chip. and the infuse is not spec'd to have lte capabilities.
2g,3g,and 4g are just marketing terms that are supposed to give a general idea to the consumer how fast it is.
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Chatted with AT&T tech support Mark. He said "HSPA+ and LTE are one and the same". Can I believe this guy?
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No. He has NO clue.
Chatted with another AT&T tech support Jesus. According to him, "Infuse can run on both [HSPA and LTE] ... It is a phone designed for this transition since 4G level speeds are available with both LTE and the HSPA networks. And the Infuse can access them both. The Motorola Atrix as well ... I am not able to find documentation that is not proprietary. The information I have, since LTE is only in testing stages, is that LTE compatibility is not posted on the Specifications. The 4G speeds are currently being provided by an enhanced version of HSPA and HSPDA, and the phones are connectible. The 4G phones, such as designated the Atrix and the Infuse, will be able to access LTE once it becomes established via a software upgrade."
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Chatted with another AT&T tech support Jesus. According to him, "Infuse can run on both [HSPA and LTE] ... It is a phone designed for this transition since 4G level speeds are available with both LTE and the HSPA networks. And the Infuse can access them both. The Motorola Atrix as well ... I am not able to find documentation that is not proprietary. The information I have, since LTE is only in testing stages, is that LTE compatibility is not posted on the Specifications. The 4G speeds are currently being provided by an enhanced version of HSPA and HSPDA, and the phones are connectible. The 4G phones, such as designated the Atrix and the Infuse, will be able to access LTE once it becomes established via a software upgrade."
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Well at least you found Jesus...
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Chatted with another AT&T tech support Jesus. According to him, "Infuse can run on both [HSPA and LTE] ... It is a phone designed for this transition since 4G level speeds are available with both LTE and the HSPA networks. And the Infuse can access them both. The Motorola Atrix as well ... I am not able to find documentation that is not proprietary. The information I have, since LTE is only in testing stages, is that LTE compatibility is not posted on the Specifications. The 4G speeds are currently being provided by an enhanced version of HSPA and HSPDA, and the phones are connectible. The 4G phones, such as designated the Atrix and the Infuse, will be able to access LTE once it becomes established via a software upgrade."
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That's somewhat more believable - e.g. the hardware is capable but the radio baseband isn't yet.
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Chatted with another AT&T tech support Jesus. According to him, "Infuse can run on both [HSPA and LTE] ... It is a phone designed for this transition since 4G level speeds are available with both LTE and the HSPA networks. And the Infuse can access them both. The Motorola Atrix as well ... I am not able to find documentation that is not proprietary. The information I have, since LTE is only in testing stages, is that LTE compatibility is not posted on the Specifications. The 4G speeds are currently being provided by an enhanced version of HSPA and HSPDA, and the phones are connectible. The 4G phones, such as designated the Atrix and the Infuse, will be able to access LTE once it becomes established via a software upgrade."
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the motorola xoom is lte upgradable so ther eis a posibility that the atrix is as well. this says nothing for the infuse. t-mo had the 4g flag on there hspa+ devices months ago and they cannot be upgraded to lte. it is a marketing game that started with sprint (wimax isnt all that fast compared to hspa which can run at 14.4mbps, hspa+ can run at 42mbps but att is only willing to supply 7.2 and 21mbps respectively http://www.intomobile.com/2010/06/04/data-speed-showdown-sprint-4g-vs-t-mobile-hspa/) 4g just means that it is faster than 3g was, infact wimax is barely comperable to 3g with hspa on many gsm networks. the 4g flag offers no garentee that it will support lte on any carrieer other than verizon. att reps often speculate and talk out of there assses, many times the information comes from customers and not corperate.
The infuse supports the highest speed of lte and hspa that ATT has out now and it will support the fastest they have by the end of 2011. My ATT Rep (for work) told me so and has one herself.
Edit: btw, my att Rep, represents my entire district, highly doubt she would talk out of her ass, but I do agree that the ones u find in the stores r mostly untrained
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There' no way. If the Infuse were capable of LTE they would have advertised the hell out of that. Unfortunately reps aren't engineers and clearly don't understand the technology. Now the infuse may be capable of the fastest speeds, i.e. equal to whatever the LTE network is limited to, but it's not connecting using LTE.
i believe att will wait for the tmobile acquisition to finalize before releasing lte devices so they can use as many bands and cell towers as possible, easing network load issues and increasing coverage speed and reliablility.
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There' no way. If the Infuse were capable of LTE they would have advertised the hell out of that. Unfortunately reps aren't engineers and clearly don't understand the technology. Now the infuse may be capable of the fastest speeds, i.e. equal to whatever the LTE network is limited to, but it's not connecting using LTE.
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Most of the population would raise a brow if u even mentioned the terms HSPA or LTE. They didn't advertise it because spending that much money to advertise a feature that only 5% (guesstimate) of the population knows about isn't the brightest idea.
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Most of the population would raise a brow if u even mentioned the terms HSPA or LTE. They didn't advertise it because spending that much money to advertise a feature that only 5% (guesstimate) of the population knows about isn't the brightest idea.
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Verizon built an entire ad campaign around LTE
http://androidcommunity.com/verizon...-its-the-most-advanced-4g-available-20101122/
And I can't seem to find the ad with the kid in the store, but they definitely push the fact that it's 4G LTE upgradeable. If ATT could, they would.
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There' no way. If the Infuse were capable of LTE they would have advertised the hell out of that. Unfortunately reps aren't engineers and clearly don't understand the technology. Now the infuse may be capable of the fastest speeds, i.e. equal to whatever the LTE network is limited to, but it's not connecting using LTE.
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Agreed...
As you point out in your next post, carriers do not shy away from using technical terminology in their advertising. Further, even if this were the case, one would expect LTE connectivity to at least be listed on the spec sheet. Not only is it NOT there, but it was not on the sheet I saw back when this thing went to the FCC. I'm not a lawyer, but assuming what was posted was what the FCC was looking at, I believe AT&T would be in violation of the law if this thing supported LTE.
DING DING DING!
We have a winner!
HSPA+ and LTE are NOT the same thing and the radio bands have little to nothing to do with which tech is used. Remember when AT&T had their last Mea Culpa moment and enabled 3G on the 850 MHz band? (Because it penetrates buildings better)
If the Infuse *is* capable of LTE, that's news to everyone. It would be on Samsung's Spec sheet. The manufacturer would want to announce ANYTHING that it's capable of.
nolsen311 said:
DING DING DING!
We have a winner!
HSPA+ and LTE are NOT the same thing and the radio bands have little to nothing to do with which tech is used.
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I'm from the SGS2 forum and we're having this debate too. A leak of the new 2.3.4 ROM that's supposed to be released at the end of the month has APN's for AT&T's LTE network along with PNGs of their unique LTE logos. So whatever version of the SGS2 AT&Ts releasing, it will run the same ROM as the international version. So, based on what you said about the "tech," what do you think what I just shared means? Is adding the 700mhz frequency to an existing radio all that's necessary to access LTE? Could the existing radios already support the frequency but have it disabled? No one really has a lot of info on LTE so it's kind of a mystery.
Here's an interesting article...
http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2388526,00.asp
Kansas City recently enabled 4G-LTE & i was wondering what radio would be best to use?
also... what should i set my radio commands to in my build.prop?
also... since most roms arent 4g enabled... how do i enable that?
Ph0z3 said:
Kansas City recently enabled 4G-LTE & i was wondering what radio would be best to use?
also... what should i set my radio commands to in my build.prop?
also... since most roms arent 4g enabled... how do i enable that?
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Ummm......... no. Sorry.. to everything...... expect many Kansas City has LTE! Sweet..
Infuse runs HSDPA... and ALL the roms in this section have 4g enabled... so.. yeah.
Ph0z3 said:
Kansas City recently enabled 4G-LTE & i was wondering what radio would be best to use?
also... what should i set my radio commands to in my build.prop?
also... since most roms arent 4g enabled... how do i enable that?
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AT&T deployed towers you don't have the hardware to use... Doesn't matter.
Infuse is fauxG not 4g. It doesn't have an lte radio not does the sgs2, hence the skyrocket. Also look at all the earlier lte Verizon phones, see how thick the charge (similar to the infuse) and the thunderbolt are? That is the early 4g radio in there. Granted thin lte phones are possible like the skyrocket and razor it was too impractical or expensive when the infuse came out.
Tmobile released phones with faster 3g radios and beefed up the network calling it hspa+ aka "4g" the infuse has hspa+ only. This has nothing to do with lte.
Dani897 said:
Infuse is fauxG not 4g. It doesn't have an lte radio not does the sgs2, hence the skyrocket. Also look at all the earlier lte Verizon phones, see how thick the charge (similar to the infuse) and the thunderbolt are? That is the early 4g radio in there. Granted thin lte phones are possible like the skyrocket and razor it was too impractical or expensive when the infuse came out.
Tmobile released phones with faster 3g radios and beefed up the network calling it hspa+ aka "4g" the infuse has hspa+ only. This has nothing to do with lte.
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It is 4th generation technology. Just not a LTE radio.
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hmm... ****ty deal.
well alright then... thanks for the replies everyone! Was just kinda excited about that, but ill continue on like it never happened , i guess...
Ph0z3 said:
hmm... ****ty deal.
well alright then... thanks for the replies everyone! Was just kinda excited about that, but ill continue on like it never happened , i guess...
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Your Infuse would be significantly thicker and heavier and would have awful battery life if it had LTE.
hmm... didnt know that... i dont know much about radios/modems and the bands they use...
but hey... atleast i learned something new!