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Does anyone know if the galaxy s 4g can be unlocked to work on AT&T 3G like the Vibrant was???
Once unlocked works on all NA gsm carriers
stevm said:
Once unlocked works on all NA gsm carriers
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On AT&T's 3G band!?
stevm said:
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I doubt it, once unlocked it will work on all GSM carriers is true, but it is specifically built for T-Mobile frequency, AT&T has different frequency.
Similar to the situation we have in canada, Rogers Fido Bell Telus work on similar frequencies but Wind and Mobilicity work differently.
As Galaxy S 4G is meant for T-mobile, it will work 2g only with AT&T and for that sake with 4 major canadian providers too...
I would suggest to check what phones arw im at&t and check their specs and bands. Once you do that you will know wether it will work in at&t or not.
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Does anyone know if the galaxy s 4g can be unlocked to work on AT&T 3G like the Vibrant was???
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Yes, I can confirm that it does indeed have UTMS band 1900, just like the Vibrant. I'm using it right now on AT&T and I do get 3G...now if only I could figure out how to enable 4G.
toasis2000 said:
Yes, I can confirm that it does indeed have UTMS band 1900, just like the Vibrant. I'm using it right now on AT&T and I do get 3G...now if only I could figure out how to enable 4G.
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I can confirm that it works on AT&T 3G as well. You in fact get faster 3G speeds in some areas because AT&T has some different coverage than tmobile.
I unlocked the SGS4G for my Father In Law who is on AT&T, and it immediately connected to AT&T 3G. 4mbps/3mbps
It won't work on 4G though.
thats becuase at&t dosnt have 4g yeat eventhough they have 4g phones
Why not just get the vibrant instead of all it works on is 3g. It has much much more roms than this phone ever will especially with the release of the g2x and galaxy s2.
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joedeveloper said:
I can confirm that it works on AT&T 3G as well. You in fact get faster 3G speeds in some areas because AT&T has some different coverage than tmobile.
I unlocked the SGS4G for my Father In Law who is on AT&T, and it immediately connected to AT&T 3G. 4mbps/3mbps
It won't work on 4G though.
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Why wouldn't 4G work? It's on the same bands, and if you have all the APN info, shouldn't it work?
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Why wouldn't 4G work? It's on the same bands, and if you have all the APN info, shouldn't it work?
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Because AT&T hasn't made any tower upgrades to increase speed.
Technically, you are on 4G, but receive 3G speeds.
With T-Mo, you WILL get 4G speeds (10mbps+), because they have the necessary tower upgrades to make that possible.
joedeveloper said:
I can confirm that it works on AT&T 3G as well. You in fact get faster 3G speeds in some areas because AT&T has some different coverage than tmobile.
I unlocked the SGS4G for my Father In Law who is on AT&T, and it immediately connected to AT&T 3G. 4mbps/3mbps
It won't work on 4G though.
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Anyone know where I can find a detailed (and updated) map showing which frequency is being used in specific areas? I'm [] this close to switch to AT&T and wouldn't mind using this until the iPhone refresh. But if I'm in 850MHZ area, I'll either trade it or sell it, as I originally intended to do.
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Anyone know where I can find a detailed (and updated) map showing which frequency is being used in specific areas? I'm [] this close to switch to AT&T and wouldn't mind using this until the iPhone refresh. But if I'm in 850MHZ area, I'll either trade it or sell it, as I originally intended to do.
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I'd skip out on switching to AT&T- they're terrible.
The 3G upload speeds are a joke, and coverage (at least in my area) is terrible. And don't even get me started on their Tech Support department.
As for the map though, I don't know of any public ones available.
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Because AT&T hasn't made any tower upgrades to increase speed.
Technically, you are on 4G, but receive 3G speeds.
With T-Mo, you WILL get 4G speeds (10mbps+), because they have the necessary tower upgrades to make that possible.
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What kind of upload speeds should you be getting then?
I'm getting less than 50kbps upload....
(In AT&T Full 3G Coverage Area)
My download is always around 2MBPS, which is strange, because my iPhone 4 got around 4MBPS in the same location...
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What kind of upload speeds should you be getting then?
I'm getting less than 50kbps upload....
(In AT&T Full 3G Coverage Area)
My download is always around 2MBPS, which is strange, because my iPhone 4 got around 4MBPS in the same location...
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With the upload thing, I may be wrong, but it's probably because they don't have HSUPA on.
And on the download thing with your iPhone, remember, your iPhone can take advantage of both 850MHz and 1900MHz, the GS4G can only take advantage of 1900MHz, so there will most likely be some variation in speeds.
Ahh, I never even knew that it was only 1900mhz compatible on 3G D:
So, does that in turn mean that my phone will not work on AT&T's "4G"? Because that's the main point of me getting this phone over the Nexus S.
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What kind of upload speeds should you be getting then?
I'm getting less than 50kbps upload....
(In AT&T Full 3G Coverage Area)
My download is always around 2MBPS, which is strange, because my iPhone 4 got around 4MBPS in the same location...
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Here in Vegas and surrounding henderson areas my Father in law was getting 4.5mpbs down and 2 up so it's fairly consistent but we have good ATT coverage here as well as Tmobile (which I'm on 4G).
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Here in Vegas and surrounding henderson areas my Father in law was getting 4.5mpbs down and 2 up so it's fairly consistent but we have good ATT coverage here as well as Tmobile (which I'm on 4G).
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I'd love to get speeds like that, but I'm in NY.
Worst.Network.Congestion.Ever
oooh and quick question, do you have a thread which has instructions to remove the "Pink" boot or shutdown screens?
Thankyou
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I'd love to get speeds like that, but I'm in NY.
Worst.Network.Congestion.Ever
oooh and quick question, do you have a thread which has instructions to remove the "Pink" boot or shutdown screens?
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Pretty straight forward if you are used to ADB or any other file managing software.
To disable shutdown just rename
/system/media/video/shutdown
to be like /system/media/video/shutdownbackup
For the startup screen look here:
http://forum.cyanogenmod.com/topic/...t-software-not-suck/page__p__36615#entry36615
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Pretty straight forward if you are used to ADB or any other file managing software.
To disable shutdown just rename
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to be like /system/media/video/shutdownbackup
For the startup screen look here:
http://forum.cyanogenmod.com/topic/...t-software-not-suck/page__p__36615#entry36615
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Perfect...Took some time to get it working (this is my first time using ADB), but looks great.
Thank you!
I was stalking the T-Mo SGSII forums when I saw this..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1417095
According to that, their phone has an LTE radio... which means even the radios between our phones are the same..
I did some research, and I learned that our Skyrocket is a pentaband phone.
HSPA+: 850, 900, 1700, 1900, 2100.
And having 6 LTE bands....
This is probably the best radio made by Qualcomm... ever.
But I thought the Exynos chip could not support LTE? Only the Snapdragon..
Both phones have snapdragon processors.
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Wait.. whaaa? This is the first I've heard of this, but doing a check on phonearena, it looks like it has supports the 1700 band. Has anyone tried this phone on T-Mo?
Lately, I've been thinking of selling the phone and going T-Mo b/c their plans are so cheap.
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Wait.. whaaa? This is the first I've heard of this, but doing a check on phonearena, it looks like it has supports the 1700 band. Has anyone tried this phone on T-Mo?
Lately, I've been thinking of selling the phone and going T-Mo b/c their plans are so cheap.
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This is the info I got from phonearena. Most gsm bands are the same from the Tmobile sgs2 and the a&t skyrocket.does this mean if I unlocked my skyrocket I could use t mobile pre paid internet and voice plans.I currently have a AT&T 50$ unlimited pay as you go, but can't get Web (internet because it's a smartphone) has anyone tried using there skyrocket on Tmobile hspa+ network?
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Yes, our T-Mobile Galaxy S II people are trying to see if we can activate the LTE radio on our device by flashing your modem.
If you are interested you can try flashing our modem to see if your phone can use AWS (1700) on T-Mobile / Mobilicity / Wind.
Our modem is here: http://rootzwiki.com/topic/11883-odin-tmo-sgsii-modem-collection-team-kang12142011/
Note that after flashing our modem your phone will lose LTE. After you are done testing you can flash back your own modem which is here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1384865
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Yes, our T-Mobile Galaxy S II people are trying to see if we can activate the LTE radio on our device by flashing your modem.
If you are interested you can try flashing our modem to see if your phone can use AWS (1700) on T-Mobile / Mobilicity / Wind.
Our modem is here: http://rootzwiki.com/topic/11883-odin-tmo-sgsii-modem-collection-team-kang12142011/
Note that after flashing our modem your phone will lose LTE. After you are done testing you can flash back your own modem which is here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1384865
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My skyrocket is locked to AT&T so I cant test. :/
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Someone on the original thread was able to flash a T-Mobile radio and get Wind 3g signal (which is AWS) so looks like the radios are the same... anyone else want to try flashing a T-Mobile radio to see if T-Mobile 3g/4g (idk what they call it ) or Wind Home zone/Mobilicity 3G (non-roaming) works?
I've been following both threads and it sounds like Telus/TMobile radios does work on our LTE device? I'm travelling to Orlando later this month and would love to use their 3g data prepaid plan instead of 2g data.
It sounds like all I have to do is flash the Telus radio before I leave and I should be able to use Tmobile's 3g network? Then when I get back, flash it back to the Rogers radio so I get LTE back? Does that sound right? Thanks!
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I've been following both threads and it sounds like Telus/TMobile radios does work on our LTE device? I'm travelling to Orlando later this month and would love to use their 3g data prepaid plan instead of 2g data.
It sounds like all I have to do is flash the Telus radio before I leave and I should be able to use Tmobile's 3g network? Then when I get back, flash it back to the Rogers radio so I get LTE back? Does that sound right? Thanks!
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Sounds about right.
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Im actually glad members of the SR forum are aware of what we are trying to do over at the tgs2 forum. I have an unlocked tmg2 and been looking for someone in chicago with att lte to test it out and i was going to start a nee thread. But posted on here instead
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If anyone in Vancouver has a telus Galaxy s2 x wants to try with my Rogers LTE sim, send me a pm
What radio do I need to flash for t-mobile hspa?
TPC has radio thread in dev forum and da_g has posted t989 radio plus mr.x has radio thread over at t989 dev forum so you can install them after flashing rom.
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What radio do I need to flash for t-mobile hspa?
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It is indeed amazing. Flashed juggernaught and the T-Mobile radio. Getting 4g with no issues.
Plus it even thinks my phone is the T-Mobile version. Wifi calling might even be supported!
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I've been doing some research... the MDM9200 (modem in the Skyrocket) has LTE (Band 17 and Band 4, I also found a device with Band 13 but not sure if it's included in the SkyRocket) and it has HSPA+ Release 8, which means DC-HSPA. This means the by flashing a Telus/T-Mobile radio, you could theoretically get the same speeds that the SGH-T989(D) gets. I also found an MDM9200 device that states it has HSPA+ 850/900/1700/1900/2100 so that means that this modem can handle a LOT of bands, it just depends on which radio you flash.
Alright so I got my Skyrocket and flashed the latest T-Mobile Modem. AWS HSPA+ works perfectly fine, voice quality is actually much better than it was on my Hercules. I restored my setup from my Hercules and just changed the TDJ kernel to Da_G (waiting for them to make a kernel for the Skyrocket).
So that settles that once and for all. This phone has HSPA+ 850/1700/1900/2100 (and it's DC-HSPA so the max 42mbps is enabled if you flash a T-Mobile/Telus radio). It also has LTE 1700/700 with the 700 being band 17. I'm really hoping Wind gets the lower B or C block so I won't have to switch phones if/when they deploy LTE.
The Skyrocket has everything the Hercules has, with just MDM9200 over the MDM8200 in the Hercules. If you google online, the MDM9200 is like the MDM8200 just with LTE on top.
Once again, this phone is in fact amazing lol
Guess I should change my username if i could lol "SGS2LTE"
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Alright so I got my Skyrocket and flashed the latest T-Mobile Modem. AWS HSPA+ works perfectly fine, voice quality is actually much better than it was on my Hercules. I restored my setup from my Hercules and just changed the TDJ kernel to Da_G (waiting for them to make a kernel for the Skyrocket).
So that settles that once and for all. This phone has HSPA+ 850/1700/1900/2100 (and it's DC-HSPA so the max 42mbps is enabled if you flash a T-Mobile/Telus radio). It also has LTE 1700/700 with the 700 being band 17. I'm really hoping Wind gets the lower B or C block so I won't have to switch phones if/when they deploy LTE.
The Skyrocket has everything the Hercules has, with just MDM9200 over the MDM8200 in the Hercules. If you google online, the MDM9200 is like the MDM8200 just with LTE on top.
Once again, this phone is in fact amazing lol
Guess I should change my username if i could lol "SGS2LTE"
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glad to hear it worked out man, lot of people shy away from the skyrocket because they think it won't work!
seriously ive been wondering about this for a while now, and im just wondering which is truly better. HSPA+ or LTe? post speedtest pictures please...
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Idk... Look it up online.
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There are plenty of quotes on the boards, search is your friend.
It varies vastly by region. LTE is semi-consistent at 30Mbps+. HSPA+ can be anywhere from 1Mbps to 11Mbps. If LTE is available its the fastest connection available. But, its on limited markets on att.
Right now, lte is faster than hspa+ by around 10mbps (of course this can vary greatly). The difference is that lte is has much more potential. So in time, it's better to have an lte phone. But right now they are fairly comparable
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I see... Cause i really want lte but still want power like the original s2...
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I see... Cause i really want lte but still want power like the original s2...
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Yeah, the i777 is the best, most powerful phone on att. Maybe the Galaxy S III will have LTE, or maybe a Note with LTE. There was just a FCC application for a Galaxy Note with LTE on att bands, but isn't proof it will actually hit att subsidized.
The Vivid is supposed to be nice, but its crickets in the dev forum, they only got the bootloader unlocked a few days ago. That will probably be the best bet for LTE phone.
The Skyrocket is just different enough it will stay forever in obscurity. The Nitro HD is a normal LG phone on att ... good build quality, poor dev draw, and don't plan on timely updates.
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Another thing on LTE, if you are on the old unlimited plan tons of people are getting throttled down to near zero, sometimes at less than 2 GB. So all that speed is wasted, and anyone that knows enough to know they want the extra speed will probably not get to use it for long.
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Yeah, the i777 is the best, most powerful phone on att. Maybe the Galaxy S III will have LTE, or maybe a Note with LTE. There was just a FCC application for a Galaxy Note with LTE on att bands, but isn't proof it will actually hit att subsidized.
The Vivid is supposed to be nice, but its crickets in the dev forum, they only got the bootloader unlocked a few days ago. That will probably be the best bet for LTE phone.
The Skyrocket is just different enough it will stay forever in obscurity. The Nitro HD is a normal LG phone on att ... good build quality, poor dev draw, and don't plan on timely updates.
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Actually the skyrocket has an amazing dev community..mostly because of the fact that it can use the ROM's and Kernels of the T-mobile SGSII. And there is talk that it may be pentaband...the Radio's are interchangable as well.
Well this is interesting. How much are your guys speeds, and how much is your skyrocket if you have one?
are LTE network compatible with 4G? or LTE phones compatible with HSPDA+ phones? in other words, LTE phones and HSPDA+ phones work on different network or LTE phones can also receive HSPDA+ 4G data (functions)?
So i have read that T-mobile is getting LTE in 2013. Do that mean i have to get a new phone again, i wonder if my GS2 will get faster on the new network. And where the hell is my ICS update? This suppose to be their best phone as of now.
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are LTE network compatible with 4G? or LTE phones compatible with HSPDA+ phones? in other words, LTE phones and HSPDA+ phones work on different network or LTE phones can also receive HSPDA+ 4G data (functions)?
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LTE & HSPDA+ are both classified as '4G' but are different, incompatible systems.
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azumis said:
So i have read that T-mobile is getting LTE in 2013. Do that mean i have to get a new phone again, i wonder if my GS2 will get faster on the new network. And where the hell is my ICS update?
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Your phone will not run on LTE. But T-Mobile's HSTPS+ network is pretty fast and will be in operation for years to come, longer than you'll keep your present phone.
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so HSPDA+ and LTE has different network? LTE phones cannot receive HSPDA+ networks?
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Your phone will not run on LTE. But T-Mobile's HSTPS+ network is pretty fast and will be in operation for years to come, longer than you'll keep your present phone.
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what is HSTPS+ ? news says t-mobile is moving to LTE. currently released phone are HSPDA+ , so all the phones will not work with that?
http://www.phonearena.com/news/T-Mo...r-LTE-leaves-82Mbps-HSPA-plans-behind_id27474
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A typo.
t-mobile is moving to LTE. currently released phone are HSPDA+ , so all the phones will not work with that?
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Present HSPDA+ phones will not work with LTE. I suppose some future phones may be capable of HSPDA+ and LTE. But my next phone will be HSPDA+. It will be around a long time, it's pretty fast and uses less battery power anyway.
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Hey guys!
Is there a way we can disable the 4G connection and only use 3G? Any help that you guys can as provide will be greatly appreciated!
There is no 4G in Atrix2. Is just a marketing ATT does.
4G = 3G
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There is no 4G in Atrix2. Is just a marketing ATT does.
4G = 3G
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4G LTE = LTE (our phone doesn't support it)
4G = 3G + extra stuff to be better... but still techically 4G as it's AT&T's 4th generation of technology
3G = 3G
But I don't think that there's a way you can disable "4G" and only use 3G... you can disable 3G/4G and only use 2G though.
ATRIX 2 supports 21mbit hspa+ that's what they call 4G. 3g is really just slower versions of hspa+ for us. Post above is correct about LTE. LTE is better than hspa+ also.
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There is no 4G in Atrix2. Is just a marketing ATT does.
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my wifes iphone 4 must suck then.
hers is a "3g" and gets about 1.25 mbps
my atrix 2 4G gets 4.45 mbps
i think 4g is a bunch faster than 3g.....
or its just that the iphone a generally crap.
take your pick i suppose.
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my wifes iphone 4 must suck then.
hers is a "3g" and gets about 1.25 mbps
my atrix 2 4G gets 4.45 mbps
i think 4g is a bunch faster than 3g.....
or its just that the iphone a generally crap.
take your pick i suppose.
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Well it's both really .
But our phone is about as fast as you can get on AT&T's network without using LTE. The OG Atrix also was "4G" but it was only 14.x mb/sec while our A2's radio supports up to 21.x mb/sec (or something around there). The iPhone X's only support 3G.
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ATRIX 2 supports 21mbit hspa+ that's what they call 4G. 3g is really just slower versions of hspa+ for us. Post above is correct about LTE. LTE is better than hspa+ also.
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Not too sure what you guys are meaning when you say better....
I was interested in the differences a while back and after researching around quite a bit, found that the speeds really depended on the phone's programming more so than whether it was LTE or HSPA+.
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Not too sure what you guys are meaning when you say better....
I was interested in the differences a while back and after researching around quite a bit, found that the speeds really depended on the phone's programming more so than whether it was LTE or HSPA+.
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LTE has higher bandwidth, and is less populated. HSPA+ can go up to 21mbit, yes, (which is less than LTE) BUT most AT&T HSPA+ deployments are 7mbit or 14mbit.
HSPA+ users typically see ~4-5mbit or so, maybe up to 7mbit on a 14.4mbit cell, but LTE users typically can see 9-11mbit+.
The best speedtest I have ever gotten on my phone was in the 5mbit range. SLC only has 7mbit HSPA+ from what I can tell, and since AT&T is going to LTE, it appears they wont be upgrading the HSPA+ network any more.
you're lucky. Around my area all you can get is 2-3 mbs.
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you're lucky. Around my area all you can get is 2-3 mbs.
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Thats what I usually get too, but if I am right near a cell tower I can get the ~5mbit speeds.
Yeah, "4G" is actually HSPA+, which AT&T actually was going to call 3G+. The 4G crap came around because T-Mobile marketed it that way and if AT&T stuck with 3G+ they took the risk of people thinking T-Mobile was faster and losing customers. LTE was what they planned to call 4G.
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Thats what I usually get too, but if I am right near a cell tower I can get the ~5mbit speeds.
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Yeah, i'm in Orlando and normally getting 2-4 mbps...
I visited Boston a few Weeks ago and was getting 13!!!!!
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Their hspa+ is like 3.5 g its def better then reg 3g
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I feel as if their labeling of 4g was a bit deceiving as well but its understandable if it was meant to keep up with TMobile because of all the confusion between 4g and 4g lte.
The good news is that I don't believe our 4g is as battery-consuming as 4g lte, its probably about the same as regular 3g.
If you're wanting to limit it to 2g though there is a way to do it even though the menu is left out from our 'Settings'. Use anycut to get to network settings directly and choose GSM only.
At least T-Mobile's HSPA+ is significantly faster than "3G" - not an entirely undeserved title for them. ATT...not so much.
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At least T-Mobile's HSPA+ is significantly faster than "3G" - not an entirely undeserved title for them. ATT...not so much.
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i got 13mbs on at&t so it works good for me
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i got 13mbs on at&t so it works good for me
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That's pretty good. Max I've seen is 11mbit down.
I didn't believe it at first so I reran the speedtest a couple times to make sure.
Mine has topped out around 9Mbps, sadly.
It's not throughput that's bad on a decent 3G network, a lot of time's it's the latency. Meh. Whatever. Long live LTE.
I ran just ran the speedtest.net app and I have 7.20 mbps down and 1.13 up here in Atlanta. Thats even better than basic dsl albiet cable beats it easily....
So, my phone is rooted and unlocked.I pop in my sim card, put in access point info that was in my old phone that got 3g (desire z/g2) and I only get edge. Am I missing a step? Did Tmobile block att bands for 3g use in the USA?
I figured it out. Network mode was set to GSM. When it was switched to GSM/WCDMA 4g came in great. Not sure why that would be, as ATT uses GSM only, but there you go for anyone that's searching. :good:
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I figured it out. Network mode was set to GSM. When it was switched to GSM/WCDMA 4g came in great. Not sure why that would be, as ATT uses GSM only, but there you go for anyone that's searching. :good:
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Do you mean 3G came in when you switched to GSM/WCDMA? Its my understanding this phone, despite its name, can't actually get 4G but rather a somewhat faster version of 3G when 4G is switched on (online it seems to have the unofficial title of 3.5G).
As i understand it what the phone companies call 4g is not quite actually 4g. Its 2 channels of 3g which gives a net speed in the 4g range. But 4g lte is actually a 4g connection, which the relay doesn't have.
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As i understand it what the phone companies call 4g is not quite actually 4g. Its 2 channels of 3g which gives a net speed in the 4g range. But 4g lte is actually a 4g connection, which the relay doesn't have.
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Meaning the Relay 4G won't be able to access AT&T's 4G connection.
I'm more concerned with it being able to access AT&T's 3G connection. There isn't enough 4G LTE coverage for me to really be concerned with a phone that can't access it. In 2 years times, YEAH, but for now, no, I just want decent 3G.
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Meaning the Relay 4G won't be able to access AT&T's 4G connection.
I'm more concerned with it being able to access AT&T's 3G connection. There isn't enough 4G LTE coverage for me to really be concerned with a phone that can't access it. In 2 years times, YEAH, but for now, no, I just want decent 3G.
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It shouldn't have a problem, as long as it's unlocked and you've set up your APN properly. I've moved my T-Mobile service to an LTE-capable LG Optimus F3, and put an H2O Wireless SIM into the Relay (H2O is an MVNO that uses AT&T's network). AT&T's HSPA+ works fine on my Relay.
The labeling of HSPA+ as "4G" was pure marketing BS; T-Mobile started with that, and AT&T followed suit. I suppose that dual-carrier HSPA+ reaches into 4G territory from a speed standpoint, but I've never seen DC-HSPA+ outside of T-Mobile's network.
Bobby Tables said:
It shouldn't have a problem, as long as it's unlocked and you've set up your APN properly. I've moved my T-Mobile service to an LTE-capable LG Optimus F3, and put an H2O Wireless SIM into the Relay (H2O is an MVNO that uses AT&T's network). AT&T's HSPA+ works fine on my Relay.
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I've seen H20 at Best Buy, for some reason I thought it was an MVNO of T-Mobile. I was going to go with the AT&T GoPhone.
The labeling of HSPA+ as "4G" was pure marketing BS; T-Mobile started with that, and AT&T followed suit. I suppose that dual-carrier HSPA+ reaches into 4G territory from a speed standpoint, but I've never seen DC-HSPA+ outside of T-Mobile's network.
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I've read about T-Mobile's marketing "trick" but I didn't realize AT&T did something similar.
Well like I said, once I get this phone I should be fine for a good 2 years just using 3G and data. That should give the market time to catch up in the 4G department, by which time I'll be ready to move on to another phone anyway. Thanks for the info. :good:
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I've seen H20 at Best Buy, for some reason I thought it was an MVNO of T-Mobile. I was going to go with the AT&T GoPhone.
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Yes, "H+" (aka 42Mbps 3G) works fine on the Relay with AT&T Go Phone. It's what my wife is using, and it works fine. Faster than my 21Mbps HTC One X on Go Phone.
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Yes, "H+" (aka 42Mbps 3G) works fine on the Relay with AT&T Go Phone. It's what my wife is using, and it works fine. Faster than my 21Mbps HTC One X on Go Phone.
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LOL :laugh: Ebay, my friend. Cheap and new for less than $250. I'm buying myself one for Christmas, I urge you to do the same. :highfive:
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LOL :laugh: Ebay, my friend. Cheap and new for less than $250. I'm buying myself one for Christmas, I urge you to do the same. :highfive:
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Yeah, I bought my wife's for $140 as a manufacturer refurb.
No way do I want to swap my HOX for a Relay, just saying her 3G is markedly faster than mine.
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Yeah, I bought my wife's for $140 as a manufacturer refurb.
No way do I want to swap my HOX for a Relay, just saying her 3G is markedly faster than mine.
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lol alright cool, understood. Well I'm ready to go to the Relay 4G. Love my Epic but its time. GSM here I come.
And I see you're from San Diego. I was there briefly just to catch a plane, but I always wanted to go back to visit. If you live there and 3G on GoPhone works just fine, I should be good. :good: