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Looking for a good ~4" Android phone not carried by AT&T. Considering the Sensation from Bell for unlocking and use on AT&T.
Anyone using this phone (Bell or Tmobile version) on At&T 3g? I won't have a 4g plan, but 3g is good enough. I have seen some comments elsewhere that it does not work or data connection is poor.
I actually don't use a lot of data even with a smartphone (average 400-500MB/mo) so I keep a less expensive dumbphone data plan.
If being used on AT&T what plan? Is AT&T making Sensation users upgrade to smartphone plan?
I have a Bell Sensation that I bought from Negri Electronics and I am using it on AT&T. I had to add the AT&T APN (found the info here on this forum) and it works fine. I am using it on the same line that I used to have an Inspire on so I am using the same data plan. I am not sure what they would do if you use it on a new line or try and not use a data plan.
I am having no troubles with data connection and I am using the stock radio altho the phone has S-Off and is rooted.
Overall I am very happy with my decision to buy it and use it on AT&T
Bell sensation being used on at&t "medianet" plan with no issues. As stated above, on stock Rom you will have to add the correct apn.
i have the same device using the Bulletproof 2.15 ROM and a grandfathered unlimited data plan and i have not had any problems. i was considering the Atrix 2, but decided on the Sensation because it's rooted and has good ROM support. i also prefer HTC's mail app vs the stock Android/Exchange email app.
I really like the sensation too but one thing that's stopping me are the numerous reports of dust collecting under the screen. Do you guys experience the same issue on the bell version?
No dust here.
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No dust here.
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ditto... no dust here either.
Thanks all. I figured it would work on medianet plans, but is good to get confirmation.
Does the Tmobile version only get dust under the screen?
cortez.i said:
ditto... no dust here either.
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No dust here either
loriolus said:
I really like the sensation too but one thing that's stopping me are the numerous reports of dust collecting under the screen. Do you guys experience the same issue on the bell version?
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No dust here either, but shouldn't you be concerned more with the fact that you may only get Edge data speeds on ATT or Bell with a TMO phone?
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SoFaKiNgStOkeD said:
No dust here either, but shouldn't you be concerned more with the fact that you may only get Edge data speeds on ATT or Bell with a TMO phone?
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the OP is considering the Bell version which supports at&t 3G bands.
Dust
I have a pretty bad dust issue, and HTC is willing to get it taken care of but it took about 2 weeks of fighting and me having to pay to ship it back to Canada from Colorado where I live. The issue with getting support is that i violated 2 major points in the warranty, 1. I purchased the phone from www.canadagsm.ca which is not a "Authorized HTC Dealer" and 2. I am attempting to get support out side of the country of original purchase. My phone functions great and i am very pleased to have it, but this dust issue is killing me and almost makes me want to avoid HTC in the future.
My service bars are full but it has an "E" instead of 2g, 3g, or as I would prefer, 4g. Does anyone know if I will have to root my phone? Or what my limits are considering it is unlocked and working on T-Mobile?
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Im pretty sure you're gonna be stuck with Edge as in the bands are different for 3G and Hspa
I have a friend that has an Atrix 4g unlocked on T-Mobile, and he has claimed to have gotten a 4g signal in one fringe area. He said that it was very spotty at best but it worked. I suspect it was some kind or roam signal he caught, or he was delusional. But Edge is definitely the best you will get since the frequencies are different. There is no fix for that, it is a hardware thing.
Oh wow... that really sucks. Thanks for the answers though. What if I root it or that still wouldn't be able to help? Edge is pretty ****ty service for such a nice phone, which is why I got it... plus I got a hell of a deal on it lol
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Is Atrix 2 unlocked?
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Ashley88 said:
Oh wow... that really sucks. Thanks for the answers though. What if I root it or that still wouldn't be able to help? Edge is pretty ****ty service for such a nice phone, which is why I got it... plus I got a hell of a deal on it lol
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I have heard the same as lilhaiti & JRW 28. Tmobile has different frequencies and the best you're gonna get with a non Tmobile phone is Edge. And as said prior, it's a hardware thing, not software.
Yes its unlocked
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How did you unlock your atrix 2? ive tried dang near everything even a paid site.
T-Mobile will not get 4g. The hardware does not support the signal.band. sorry I had this issue on my hd2. I am att and I never got 3g. That's why I got this phone. Sorry to bring the bad news
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Atrix 2 Unlocked No Signal
I have successfully removed the network lock on an Atrix 2 but gets absolutely no signal/emergency calls only with a T-Mobile sim. When I search for Network providers only AT&T shows. I was wondering if the radio was locked for some reason. Anyone else had this problem?
(For those of you who like to throw out the simplest ideas: Yes T-Mobile has service in the area. Yes: I have done a reset and chaged sims etc..)
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I have successfully removed the network lock on an Atrix 2 but gets absolutely no signal/emergency calls only with a T-Mobile sim. When I search for Network providers only AT&T shows. I was wondering if the radio was locked for some reason. Anyone else had this problem?
(For those of you who like to throw out the simplest ideas: Yes T-Mobile has service in the area. Yes: I have done a reset and chaged sims etc..)
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Have you set the Tmobile apn (acsess point names)
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Have you set the Tmobile apn (acsess point names)
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That was my thought too. What plan are you on? I read that you can use their 30 dallar unlimited plan when you activate a new sim card.
I still have the hope that at some point after the BL gets unlocked we might get a hacked radio kernel of sorts that will allow use of t mobile bands..... The global 2 did something like this to allow use of t mobile...... One can hope.....
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I have a friend that has an Atrix 4g unlocked on T-Mobile, and he has claimed to have gotten a 4g signal in one fringe area. He said that it was very spotty at best but it worked. I suspect it was some kind or roam signal he caught, or he was delusional. But Edge is definitely the best you will get since the frequencies are different. There is no fix for that, it is a hardware thing.
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You can get 4G on T-Mobile, but only in certain areas as of right now. Pretty soon though, after T-Mobile starts utilizing the frequencies gained from the deal going through, you should start seeing more 4G in more places. But we have to wait and see if it actually happens.
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You can get 4G on T-Mobile, but only in certain areas as of right now. Pretty soon though, after T-Mobile starts utilizing the frequencies gained from the deal going through, you should start seeing more 4G in more places. But we have to wait and see if it actually happens.
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Idk that the "deal" will allow 4G. Remember tmo and att use different frequencies
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Ashley88 said:
My service bars are full but it has an "E" instead of 2g, 3g, or as I would prefer, 4g. Does anyone know if I will have to root my phone? Or what my limits are considering it is unlocked and working on T-Mobile?
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PS. The 4G HSPA is fake 4G, it is just an enhanced 3G connection. So in reality Hspa = 3G
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I live in Vietnam, and I have a problem with Vinaphone network, added APN, but can only use HSPA (4G icon).
If I switch to GPRS (E icon), it says connected, but I cannot ping pass.
Other network (Viettel) is normal.
Even if the bootloader gets unlocked I still believe it would be a hardware issue not an issue of the radio software. They use the same 2g frequency so you can still get edge, but when it comes to 3g they operate on different frequencies. Some phones are made with the hardware for both frequencies though. My Samsung Vibrant (Tmobile phone) actually had the hardware to be used on AT&T 3g! The radio software was an issue unfortunately and it didn't switch well between 2g and 3g, tried all sorts of radio software but had no luck back then.
From what people have experienced by taking this phone to AT&T though, its looking like the Atrix 2 doesn't have the right hardware for the Tmobile 3g frequency.
I'm not one to say something is impossible though. Who knows.. maybe through the failed merger of AT&T and TMobile, TMobile was somehow able to gain access to some of AT&T's 3g towers (doubtful), since they did gain coverage through the breakup agreement after the merger failed.
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Idk that the "deal" will allow 4G. Remember tmo and att use different frequencies
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In certain markets, they will get part of the frequency that AT&T uses for 4G. I forgot what bands exactly, but if you do a Google search, you should get more info.
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I'm using unlocked Atrix 2 on T-Mobile. And I did get 4G signal when I was in downtown Bellevue, WA. I didn't believe so I ran few speedtests, best I got on Download was 1501kbps, and 1416kbps Upload, and it wasn't roaming. So yes, it works in few places right now.
Hi, I have been reading some posts in the Radio thread reporting that they are using the T-mobile Modem. It was unclear whether they had it working on the T-mobile network or just using the modem on the ATT network.
Is there anyone here using the Galaxy S II Skyrocket on T-mobiles 1700Mhz AWS 3G band and getting internet and sms and everything no problem?
I just want to make sure before I go out and purchase one for a lot of money and not have it working.
Yup I believe that the Skyrocket and the TMO SII are the same phone or at least have the same radio
Yes, you can use the t-mobile modem on the skyrocket and connect to t-mobile 3g. There are people on xda that have done this and confirmed working. The modem chipsets are different though.
There is one thing though. The skyrocket modem (mdm9200) supports 700/1700/2100 on LTE which is the same frequency that t-mobile uses on 3G. My concern is that although it will work since it is the same frequency, the skyrocket modem uses the 700/1700 band for LTE and not 3G, but 2100 for 3G and LTE. The t-mobile sgs2 uses the mdm8220 which supports 1700/2100 for 3G. I don't know enough about the particular power/design differences to say if this is a safe thing to do for extended periods of time. I heard of a few people having problems with their modems after flashing tmob modem on their skyrocket. Don't know if it's connected to the hardware differences.. just a caution. Make sure you have warranty or insurance coverage before you try
I'm going to buy the phone secondhand and thus I will not have warranty or any return policy hence I am worried. I wanted to make sure that it works before I go out and purchase the phone.
Were the people having problems the people who were still on the ATT network? I plan on using the phone strictly on the T-mobile network which I hear is also going to be putting out 1900Mhz 3G in certain markets due to the failed ATT merger and I happen to be in one of those large markets.
I have seen this question more than once but never an answer to why...with the two phones being nearly identical, what is the draw causing some tmo users to want the 727 over the 989?
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I'm going to buy the phone secondhand and thus I will not have warranty or any return policy hence I am worried. I wanted to make sure that it works before I go out and purchase the phone.
Were the people having problems the people who were still on the ATT network? I plan on using the phone strictly on the T-mobile network which I hear is also going to be putting out 1900Mhz 3G in certain markets due to the failed ATT merger and I happen to be in one of those large markets.
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Around here it is cheaper and also I hope that the phone will work with non-smartphone data plans on T-mobile because T-mobile locks out their own smartphones to certain data plans.
As I've said, others have reported it to be working. However, I don't think there are enough people doing this to give a clear idea if the tmob modem is having any adverse effects on the skyrocket modem. Maybe open a poll thread to get a better idea?
One of my customers came in with an unlocked and rooted sky rocket, any idea as to how to get it off our edge?
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Makes sense! Thanks!
johnny13oi said:
Around here it is cheaper and also I hope that the phone will work with non-smartphone data plans on T-mobile because T-mobile locks out their own smartphones to certain data plans.
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Does anyone know where can I flash this modem? And how to do it plz
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One of my customers came in with an unlocked and rooted sky rocket, any idea as to how to get it off our edge?
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This is for everyone.
IT HAS TO RUN A TMOBILE SGS II MODEM. The radio has the capability, but the modem.bin for the SR doesn't activate AWS/2100. Flashing a T-Mobile modem will fix that though.
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So do I just flash. A T-Mobile ROM
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So do I just flash. A T-Mobile ROM
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Just beware of the sbl.bin (Boot Loader). Do NOT flash the sbl for the Hercules on the Skyrocket. Everything else appears to function the same.
(I've been researching if I should get a Skyrocket or Hercules)
So just flash a tmo rom?
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KingDavid63 said:
So just flash a tmo rom?
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MODEM
just flash a TMobile MODEM
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MODEM
just flash a TMobile MODEM
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I've flashed a bunch of different things and am no noob at anything but I don't think I've ever seen atmobile modem as a flashable zip...
Kingdavid you working here
KingDavid63 said:
I've flashed a bunch of different things and am no noob at anything but I don't think I've ever seen atmobile modem as a flashable zip...
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so dont flash one in CWM....flash it in ODIN or HEIMDALL....
i dont know, since i dont keep up with the TMobile dev but i would bet something is over there...
jesus...
i just went over to TMOBILE SGS2 DEV section and what do you know, a thread called:
[RADIOS] CWM Flashable Modems
that didnt even involve a search....
reading and comprehension are a wonderful thing
Running on T-Mobile 3g pay by the day right now on Rogers s2 lte using the telus radio. I'll try to run some more tests tmr night with the tmo radios...but no guarantees.... vacation is tiring
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tom0927 said:
Running on T-Mobile 3g pay by the day right now on Rogers s2 lte using the telus radio. I'll try to run some more tests tmr night with the tmo radios...but no guarantees.... vacation is tiring
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So we're you able to test during your tiring vacation?
i flashed the ota ics update i was just wondering if my 4g still works or not sorry bout the nube ? just dident see the 4g on my screen
Yes, you still get 4g. It's just labeled as h now.
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One more thing if I wanted to go back stock gb would the ruu be ok to downgrade to
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If you have the right one but it's best to just downgrade firmwares and flash a GB rom. So many people rush to Q and A cause they tried to downgrade and run a RUU or something like that and now their phone won't boot.
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Yes, you still get 4g. It's just labeled as h now.
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Hmmm that is curious, it must do this because the OTA update that is available right now is for European areas. I guess that over seas they use the classic H as the symbol to show the device is in a HSPA+ coverage area. And not the 4G that is used on our devices here in the US when the device is in w HSPA+ coverage area. Is it just me area does anyone else see the nasty art of marketing and how easy it is to mentally fool Americans with the whole term 4G.
Oh and I know that someone if not several someones out there will say, "No it is just T-Mobile USA's way of keeping from having to deal with numerous customer service calls asking why do I not see "4G" on my Sensatio?" If you really think that and beleive that, I am here to tell you that is not the reason. I mean T-Mobile used the H on several of thier 3G devices that could make use of the HSPA+. So most mindless American's would never beleive that they are truly getting "4G" because they had the H on their 3G device. Or simple cause they do not see "4G". It is all American marketing BS lol.
Don't even know if this is possible....... Any ideas on how to get 4G if you carrier doesn't have it in your area yet? I've been with Sprint for years, have the Galaxy S3, just turned of my EVO 4G. The area I live in is not even slated to get 4G LTE anytime soon according to Sprint. All other carriers in the area do have 4G. Anyway to hack or even piggy-back off of them?
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Don't even know if this is possible....... Any ideas on how to get 4G if you carrier doesn't have it in your area yet? I've been with Sprint for years, have the Galaxy S3, just turned of my EVO 4G. The area I live in is not even slated to get 4G LTE anytime soon according to Sprint. All other carriers in the area do have 4G. Anyway to hack or even piggy-back off of them?
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Even if u could that's not condoned by xda and this thread should be closed immediately
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There are roam hacks out there why not 4G? What we do to our phones is not condoned by their manufactures. Don't be so defensive, it's just a question. Didn't mean to upset anyone.
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I don"t think this is possible...
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bmdiz said:
Don't even know if this is possible....... Any ideas on how to get 4G if you carrier doesn't have it in your area yet? I've been with Sprint for years, have the Galaxy S3, just turned of my EVO 4G. The area I live in is not even slated to get 4G LTE anytime soon according to Sprint. All other carriers in the area do have 4G. Anyway to hack or even piggy-back off of them?
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Your issue is the hardware antenna. They have to be made to accept the signals and once set they cant be changed, even after then there is no way to piggyback another carrier while connected to a different one.