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I usually get about 3 questions per day about my phone (Captivate) and why I picked it over an iphone. I'm a travelling warranty rep and so I'm on my phone a lot, and come across dozens of people a day with my line of business. This is usually one of the more frequet questions, and I decided I would just post this on my facebook as well.
I want feedback on this little short story I wrote about why I picked my Droid device over an iphone, and I figured this would be the best place to put it. I want feedback! Yes I am a little biased, but not without valid reason.
If you can actually point out a valid legitimate claim that I am at fault on, then please do so. That may be a little hard to do as this is just an opinion thread, and boy am I full of them. Flame or follow, go right ahead.
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Here's a quick comparison of apple vs Android software.
When Apple releases a new OS, whether a minor update or an upgrade, you have to wipe out all of your data (or rather, it does it for you). Of course, you can just sync your phone with itunes and then do a restore. Sure, it's easy enough.
The next thing is though, that when you do sync with itunes, you have to resync every single file and piece of music, each picture, etc, all over again, even after you've done it once. Considering all of those syncs I've done on others phones have taken well over 20 minutes to sync, for just a couple hundred songs and maybe 50 pictures, it's a pain when you want to go back and add ONE thing and have to do it all over again. Fun, huh?
There are other ways to go about adding individual files and such to iphones, but that involves jailbreaking and setting up custom networking interfaces with your phone, which typical iphone users wont know how to do.
Droid really has all that to begin with. Want to add a file? Just connect the phone to your PC via USB cable (I had 2 included with mine) and tell the phone to mount the storage, I did this by dragging down the menu bar and hitting one button that said "Select to copy files to/from your computer." That makes it show up in the PC as a standard flash drive or removable storage device. Add files accordingly, without having to spend 30 minutes syncing just to get one file. Drag, drop, and you're done.
Next, is jailbreaking. apple programs all of their OS's to fix exploits that have to be programmed in order to jailbreak their phones. If you have the newest version of apple software on your phone, chances are you'll be waiting for quite some time in order to be able to jailbreak. Then, IF the jailbreak is any good (and you don't brick -- or kill) your phone, you can generally unlock it (use it on a different carrier, which is usually the sole reason to jailbreak it) assuming they ALSO have a working unlock for it. You may be able to jailbreak it, but you wont always be able to unlock it.
There's a similar thing you can do for Droid phones, it's called rooting the phone. There's a very large difference though, in what is actually done. Jailbreaking an iphone basically requires new code to be injected into the software in order to bypass restrictions that apple specifically put in place to keep "malicious" software off of their devices. In other words, according to apple, jailbreaking is malware (something apple is supposed to be immune to also according to them). Jailbreaking is frowned upon by apple because it gives you power over your device to do things they don't want you to. Of course, you have to basically bust it out of jail (hence the term jailbreaking) in order to do so to free it from its bonds of restriction apple forces upon its devices. Rooting a Droid phone is nothing more than enabling administrator mode on your device. Its basically if you log onto your computer, you need administrator privledges to be able to do certain things... this is root. Root is a Linux term, basically meaning root controlls everything. No restrictions. Logon as administrator, and that is the same as root pretty much. No needing to jailbreak, no bonds needed to be freed, nothing. Jailbreaking = your friend is in jail, and you have to bust him out. Rooting = You're a CEO and you just took over the whole company. Root is God mode, jailbreaking is rescue mode. Got the difference? Good.
So what about Driods? When you flash a new OS (install an updated/upgraded operating system), does it erase everything? Well, in the past day I've flashed 3 different OS's including having gone back to the stock ROM that AT&T included with all their phones, rooted, unrooted, updated and reverted several times today and I have yet to lose any information. I haven't synced, backed up, done anything to preserve my data, and I've gone from 2.1 to 2.2 to 2.2.1 to 2.2 to 2.1 back over again and haven't lost a thing besides the call history and my text messages. And if I REALLY wanted to, I could have backed those up as well.
So what's all this about OS versions and everything? Well, if you're an iphone user, your OS version probably wont be anything more than a number and a couple of features, unless you jailbreak. Minor bugfixes and such, fixing exploits so people can't jailbreak as easily, and maybe adding a couple shiney new features and that's really about it. The flavor is, well, apple pie. The next version of the apple OS will still be apple pie, maybe with a little more cinammon. The next version will be apple pie, maybe with more apple. The next version will be apple pie and it may even include a worm, removed (or maybe even left in there) with the next batch. It'll always be apple. With Droid, there's not so much apple. I had an OS earlier today that was strawberry. My next was chocolate. After that was grape, then orange, then a giant chewy moist brownie with vanilla ice creamed drenched in chocolate syrup and whipped cream. With apple, all you get is pie. With Droid, you get eclairs, ice cream and more, and you get it how you like it. How about some Gingerbread now? There may even be pickled herring for those that want it later.
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Remember this was just an off the wall comparison, I didn't go as far in depth and be as technical as I'd like to have, but I did have to be a little redundant as most all of my iphone using friends need things explained to them several times before they understand. If I missed any points, feel free to share. Sorry if I hurt your feelings over anything (this was an opinion thread, remember?)
I would enjoy an orange flavored one myself.
I'm enjoying my froyo (frozen yogurt for those of you that don't know...and if you don't........) for now but when i get the chance I'll probably enjoy a bit of gingerbread .
The best of 3 worlds
I´m enjoying my Windows Mobile Leo with the chance to use Froyo/Gingerbread and soon WP7 as well
dbzfanatic said:
I'm enjoying my froyo (frozen yogurt for those of you that don't know...and if you don't........) for now but when i get the chance I'll probably enjoy a bit of gingerbread .
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That was my little bit about ice cream at the later part though I probably should have said yogurt.
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I´m enjoying my Windows Mobile Leo with the chance to use Froyo/Gingerbread and soon WP7 as well
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I am glad to see some windows users are doing that as well, I had a windows mobile phone and I completely juggled the idea of going to linux on my phone for quite some time until I just ended up deciding against it (back when I hadn't even flashed my first ROM) because I needed it strictly for work. Now I have some room to play around. My biggest concern was the lack of functionality on my device, which is always the kicker. WSince I still have the phone laying around and it's still completely functional, I may have to try it now
I recently bit the bullet and goldcarded 3.14 onto my Leo, partly as I was fed up waiting for O2 to release it, and partly to dabble with Android again (I'd done it on my Blackstone and found it meh).
I run SPB MS on the Leo which I find the best interface.
Now I can easily flip between the two, still prefer WM but then SPB MS5 isn't out for consumers yet (dammit pull your finger out!).
Prefer huff n puff to angry birds, but AB has more levels.
So if I fancy playing any games or using any apps that are only available on android I can now use them, but as for it replacing WM as my main OS, it's still too "clunky" for my liking.
Either way, at least both started the year with working alarm clocks, unlike iphones
Apparently, the official update for the T-Mo USA HD7 is available now. I'm eager to get it, but I have one question. Do you lose any saved data on the phone? (Like Pics, emails, messages, multimedia, etc). Not really worried about the other stuff, but I can't lose the txt message because I need to keep them for legal reason. With no SMS backup utilitie for WP7 I'm just stuck in the mud.
Kept all my text messages...
Well I need more proof...More people reply please.
It does a full backup as step 6 or 7... backs up every bit of the data. The less you have on your phone the better because it will be faster. It took me about 50 minutes but it will back everything up.
oh ok, downloading now.
Ok, nvm. It backs up all data...Even my settings. Nice job MS.
Everything that was on my phone before the update is still there after.
Yeah thats one thing MS nailed with the update. The backup backs up EVERYTHING which rocks.
I was pleased to find everything in-tact and the majority of my issues fixed.
Hopefully Mango will be a bit more timely.
At this point I'm ready to fully place the blame on at&t, as all it took was unbranding my device to get the update delivered. I'm used to having to wait on carriers and manufacturers to update their software and relying on the hacking community to have reliable updates.
I came to WP7 from a samsung android phone, after all
Just poking through the news portal before work (I work at an electronics retailer that sells wireless) I came across a LOT of hate for the OEMs and their update schedule, even those who are very good at it (Sony, Samsung) and yet again realized the blinders of long-term XDA residency. A lot of people here complain about their updates, and with good reason sometimes (I'm looking at you, LG Thrill) but having worked with a LOT of people who are nowhere near the level of Android proficiency of the average reader of XDA, keep in mind a few things:
1. You as a high-level user make up a very low percentage of sales of mobile devices. 90% of those who buy (non-Nexus at least) smartphones, just want to make calls, text, and play games. For all intents and purposes, your opinion doesn't matter to the OEMs, because you make up a significant minority.
2. The average consumer can't deal with imperfect software. Most of us are content, or even more comfortable with, "beta status" software. We don't mind the occasional crash, having to flash a new nightly when the last one eats our bluetooth driver, etc. Unfortunately, for the average wireless user, this just gets in the way of phone calls, texts, or games.
3. Perfect software takes time. A LOT of time. Think about your favorite ROM. I'm going to take mine, AOKP. AOKP for JB-MR1 was made available in nightly form less than a month after the release of 4.2. A version considered "stable" took 6 months to release, and was available fully bug free for Nexus devices only (in my experience) and I still wouldn't have put my mother on it (actually I tried and she hated it, so we flashed her phone back to stock. She eventually traded out for an iPhone, and has loved it) Speaking of, even the iPhone takes time, and they're developing iOS 7 for 7 devices. My Nexus running AOKP nightlies has less issues than my iPhone 5 running iOS 7 Seed 4. Now take that and apply it to a company with 10-15 updatable devices, and you see where the problem lies.
I guess my point here is, the OEMs aren't developing for you. You don't care anyway, you probably didn't even run the stock software on your phone, you unboxed it, booted into fastboot, and unlocked your bootloader/flashed recovery/ROM/rooted/whatever before you even had a chance to. Just something I had to mention. I'm more than open to comments/criticism/general "stfu and go back to your iPhone fanboy"
Absolutely true; Most users don't even bother to update to begin with. They don't care that there is a new version out if the previous one does what they want it to do.
Hell, the average used doesn't even know what the android versions are called or which one their phone is running.
Indeed. Every time friends of mine get new smartphones (most of the time totally ignoring my advice and following the crowd) and I ask which android version their running they always say android 4 (or Android 2 back in the day) which obviously doesn't tell me squad. They really don't care, all they want is to fit in, so their either buying a S4 or i5.
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I was discussing the same subject with a friend couple of weeks back. One thing he suggested that was, if updates are more, then average people would consider that your software is not up to mark and that is the reason why OEM is updating it often. And before pusing out an update, the OEMs have to test the update thouroughly. Apple can do it becuase they don't have 30-40 models in the market at any given point of time.
Having said that, the way Apple updates and takes more than 90% of userbase to latest version is an achievement in itself. That's because most iPhone users don't understand what is an update. They just press update button when the notification comes.
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I was discussing the same subject with a friend couple of weeks back. One thing he suggested that was, if updates are more, then average people would consider that your software is not up to mark and that is the reason why OEM is updating it often. And before pusing out an update, the OEMs have to test the update thouroughly. Apple can do it becuase they don't have 30-40 models in the market at any given point of time.
Having said that, the way Apple updates and takes more than 90% of userbase to latest version is an achievement in itself. That's because most iPhone users don't understand what is an update. They just press update button when the notification comes.
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And because when Apple pushes an update, without fail it contains major improvements for the end user, no matter their level of skill. No one cares about 4.2/4.3 because the only real update between the two of them is the lockscreen, which takes a LOT of getting used to. I could take or leave 4.2 and 4.3, if I were on 4.1 I'd be content day-to-day. As is, I'm still on AOKP 4.2 and have no intention of ROM hopping to get the update sooner.
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I was discussing the same subject with a friend couple of weeks back. One thing he suggested that was, if updates are more, then average people would consider that your software is not up to mark and that is the reason why OEM is updating it often. And before pusing out an update, the OEMs have to test the update thouroughly. Apple can do it becuase they don't have 30-40 models in the market at any given point of time.
Having said that, the way Apple updates and takes more than 90% of userbase to latest version is an achievement in itself. That's because most iPhone users don't understand what is an update. They just press update button when the notification comes.
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It doesn't help that Apple forces the update on you. My iPad stopped working and I had to reset it, but in order to reset it I was forced to upgrade to iOS 6. There was literally no way for me to stay on iOS 5 even though I wanted to. Damn you Apple.
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gc84245 said:
It doesn't help that Apple forces the update on you. My iPad stopped working and I had to reset it, but in order to reset it I was forced to upgrade to iOS 6. There was literally no way for me to stay on iOS 5 even though I wanted to. Damn you Apple.
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unless you saved your shsh blobs on earlier devices. Too bad that's been closed
nerdfacenyan said:
unless you saved your shsh blobs on earlier devices. Too bad that's been closed
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Stop apple trolling before i report you.
nerdfacenyan said:
And because when Apple pushes an update, without fail it contains major improvements for the end user, no matter their level of skill. No one cares about 4.2/4.3 because the only real update between the two of them is the lockscreen, which takes a LOT of getting used to. I could take or leave 4.2 and 4.3, if I were on 4.1 I'd be content day-to-day. As is, I'm still on AOKP 4.2 and have no intention of ROM hopping to get the update sooner.
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GamerEvolving said:
Stop apple trolling before i report you.
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I can tell you're new here, so I'll spare you the lecture for the most part, but telling things like it is != apple trolling. Get a job in wireless sales and you'll start to see the benefit of both sides, especially when no matter whether the manufacturer, their commission is food in your pantry.
Seems like every phone has problems and Android itself has endless problems. The Nexus 6P has an LTE bug where you can't receive calls and it hasn't been fixed in months. The OnePlus forums are full of people hating their phones and the latest OTA for Marshmallow bricks some of their phones. I don't know what to buy. There are lots of complaints about the S7 here also. I am coming from BlackBerry and was totally satisfied but there is no way to live in the modern world without an Android phone or iPhone it seems.
Is the S7 still worth buying, all else considered equal?
I guess main problem is Android 6.
Further, you have to worry about Samsung knox, locked bootloader, etc. when you want to root.
But, the device itself is great. Just use another launcher and you will be happy (at least, I am... except for worrying that root may be gone due to updates on day)
Oh, also, I disabled all updates, so no security updates aer installed. That might be a problem too...
I am not sure I want to root. This will be my first Android phone. I need it for work and travelling and it has to work. I know the device itself is great and I really want one. I just don't know if I missed something since now that the phone has been out for a while people are complaining as much about this phone as every other phone
I don't know anything about launchers or Android or anything. How can I get started learning after I buy a phone? Thank you.
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I am not sure I want to root. This will be my first Android phone. I need it for work and travelling and it has to work. I know the device itself is great and I really want one. I just don't know if I missed something since now that the phone has been out for a while people are complaining as much about this phone as every other phone
I don't know anything about launchers or Android or anything. How can I get started learning after I buy a phone? Thank you.
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If you don't know anything about root, android, whatsoever, you won't have to worry. Just buy the thing and it'll work. That's enough for the average crowd. The non average are reading/posting on xda They want to know the ins and outs of their device. They want control of their device without being restricted by anything or anyone.
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If you don't know anything about root, android, whatsoever, you won't have to worry. Just buy the thing and it'll work. That's enough for the average crowd. The non average are reading/posting on xda They want to know the ins and outs of their device. They want control of their device without being restricted by anything or anyone.
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Oh I respect that completely. I am a developer and I have played around with phones in the old days, had a hacked Nokia with custom startup etc. As far as this device goes at this point I am too busy with other things and don't expect to play around with it. There is only so much time in a day!
I know you guys are the experts which is why I am asking. As far as Android itself goes, I hate it. It has a worse security track record than Windows and the quality is worse too! They just found the whole disk encryption with Qualcomm chips is broken[1][2][3]. It's one gigantic embarassment after the next with Android.
I want something that's going to work as well as possible given the crappy software environment it has to work with. If it wasn't for you brave guys breaking your phones the rest of us wouldn't have access to anything nearly as good as we have now! Thanks!
[1] https://bits-please.blogspot.com/2016/06/extracting-qualcomms-keymaster-keys.html
[2] http://www.zdnet.com/article/how-to-crack-android-encryption-on-millions-of-smartphones/
[3] https://lwn.net/Articles/693115/
Always remember people never go online to write compliments. I personally love this phone. There is also a google+ community where you will get some honest feedback. Most people in that community will be honest about their experience as well as here.
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Oh I respect that completely. I am a developer and I have played around with phones in the old days, had a hacked Nokia with custom startup etc. As far as this device goes at this point I am too busy with other things and don't expect to play around with it. There is only so much time in a day!
I know you guys are the experts which is why I am asking. As far as Android itself goes, I hate it. It has a worse security track record than Windows and the quality is worse too! They just found the whole disk encryption with Qualcomm chips is broken[1][2][3]. It's one gigantic embarassment after the next with Android.
I want something that's going to work as well as possible given the crappy software environment it has to work with. If it wasn't for you brave guys breaking your phones the rest of us wouldn't have access to anything nearly as good as we have now! Thanks!
[1] https://bits-please.blogspot.com/2016/06/extracting-qualcomms-keymaster-keys.html
[2] http://www.zdnet.com/article/how-to-crack-android-encryption-on-millions-of-smartphones/
[3] https://lwn.net/Articles/693115/
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Exploits are found all the time on ios,Windows and a android, basically if it's a system built by humans there's almost always going to be some type of flaw somewhere. As much as this is pretty big one the chances of it actually affecting you are probably nil. I would get the device and enjoy it for what it is, rather than worrying over this and that.
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I don't think that's true. There are more fanboys for Samsung phones than people willing to bash something they spent 800 bucks on.
I saw some scary threads here like the one on broken rear camera lenses. The replacements are on ebay by the millions already. I don't understand how companies can put out faulty products and charge so much for them. But silly me, I ordered one yesterday. It hasn't shipped yet. But I'll be unhappy if it has problems. It's supposed to be the best you can get. What else is there?
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So I am currently running a rooted S4 and am thinking it's time to upgrade. And don't hate me for asking this: Now that we have root available for the S7, is this the phone to get or should I hold out to see what the next Nexus phone actually is? Would like to keep the SD card port that doesn't seem to appear in any of the nexus rumors. Am worried that now the root method is out, it'll be patched before the Nexus release and my choice becomes moot. Thanks.
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So I am currently running a rooted S4 and am thinking it's time to upgrade. And don't hate me for asking this: Now that we have root available for the S7, is this the phone to get or should I hold out to see what the next Nexus phone actually is? Would like to keep the SD card port that doesn't seem to appear in any of the nexus rumors. Am worried that now the root method is out, it'll be patched before the Nexus release and my choice becomes moot. Thanks.
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If I could choose, then I would get a device with 128Gb memory without SD card.
Why? Because google f*cked up Android with SD cards. They just don't get it that we want control over the media on the SD card!
But, I like this S7 because of the camera, display and weather proof (let's try to be careful and don't drop the phone in the toilet please...)
I thought that this post was best placed on the Lenovo forum but apaarently not, as it mysteriously dissappeared straight after I posted it. Perhaps those ownsers will find this one -
"Why Lenovo P2 is not getting Nougat update in UK?" – 25 pages and counting…
"Update to Android O" – 31 pages and counting…
"Unable to sync gmail contacts properly" – 18 pages and counting…
"Re: P2 - Notification Problem!" – 4 pages and counting…
And that doesn’t include all the other threads relating to these subject, there and on other sites.
Lenovo, or more specifically, the people at Lenovo should be ashamed. Not because they have created something with defects, no-one/nothing is perfect, but because they aren’t willing (or able) to come out and admit it. It would save a great deal of time, effort and possibly money, if someone in a position we could trust would just state, in writing, that –
There won’t be any security or operating software updates for the P2.
There will be/is no software/settings fix for the lack of notification and/or contacts sync.
Software changes are fairly cheap and simple (if anything relating to modern tech could be described as such) whereas hardware is not.
Just admit that, embarrassing as it may be, the P2 is flawed.
Promise your P2 customers that you’ve made changes to the way you do things and that (hopefully) it won’t happen again.
Thank those same customers for buying the P2 in the first place and apologize that you’ve let them down. Maybe then, some of those customers (and new ones) might buy Lenovo products.
Or is it too much to acknowledge that Motorola could do it but they couldn’t?
Or are they too worried that Google, not wanting to be linked with the bugs, will end their agreement to allow them to use Android?
On paper, the P2 is a great piece of kit, that’s why I bought one. However, if all I wanted was something to make and receive calls and to send and receive texts (plus a few extras), I’d still be using my 5310 with its replaceable battery. If I could afford to, I’d buy something else now but, safe to say, when I can, it won’t be a Lenovo, or a Motorola, just in case they get infected by association. Maybe a Google phone, you’d think that they would know how the software and hardware will work together, and I’ll get updates.
I clearly understand why you're fed up with it. Lenovo does really nearly to nothing to support the P2.
In my case, I knew from the get to that I would reflash my phone with a custom rom since stock never came close to them. In any case.
I have used stock AOSP on this phone as well, bugless, fast and stable.
Custom rom can have bugs as well but they are fixable or at least not noticeable. Not all of them though.
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I thought that this post was best placed on the Lenovo forum but apaarently not, as it mysteriously dissappeared straight after I posted it. Perhaps those ownsers will find this one -
"Why Lenovo P2 is not getting Nougat update in UK?" – 25 pages and counting…
"Update to Android O" – 31 pages and counting…
"Unable to sync gmail contacts properly" – 18 pages and counting…
"Re: P2 - Notification Problem!" – 4 pages and counting…
And that doesn’t include all the other threads relating to these subject, there and on other sites.
Lenovo, or more specifically, the people at Lenovo should be ashamed. Not because they have created something with defects, no-one/nothing is perfect, but because they aren’t willing (or able) to come out and admit it. It would save a great deal of time, effort and possibly money, if someone in a position we could trust would just state, in writing, that –
There won’t be any security or operating software updates for the P2.
There will be/is no software/settings fix for the lack of notification and/or contacts sync.
Software changes are fairly cheap and simple (if anything relating to modern tech could be described as such) whereas hardware is not.
Just admit that, embarrassing as it may be, the P2 is flawed.
Promise your P2 customers that you’ve made changes to the way you do things and that (hopefully) it won’t happen again.
Thank those same customers for buying the P2 in the first place and apologize that you’ve let them down. Maybe then, some of those customers (and new ones) might buy Lenovo products.
Or is it too much to acknowledge that Motorola could do it but they couldn’t?
Or are they too worried that Google, not wanting to be linked with the bugs, will end their agreement to allow them to use Android?
On paper, the P2 is a great piece of kit, that’s why I bought one. However, if all I wanted was something to make and receive calls and to send and receive texts (plus a few extras), I’d still be using my 5310 with its replaceable battery. If I could afford to, I’d buy something else now but, safe to say, when I can, it won’t be a Lenovo, or a Motorola, just in case they get infected by association. Maybe a Google phone, you’d think that they would know how the software and hardware will work together, and I’ll get updates.
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sm00th4f3 said:
I clearly understand why you're fed up with it. Lenovo does really nearly to nothing to support the P2.
In my case, I knew from the get to that I would reflash my phone with a custom rom since stock never came close to them. In any case.
I have used stock AOSP on this phone as well, bugless, fast and stable.
Custom rom can have bugs as well but they are fixable or at least not noticeable. Not all of them though.
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Another option to add to the list and something (as a newcomer to Android and mobile phone modding) I'm having to learn and it's a pretty steep learning curve.
After going round in ever decreasing circles until I very nearly disappeared up my own orifice over the last few months, I decided to do nothing and to just put up with things as they are. For every post that says what they did helped, there is another saying it didn’t work for them and for every updated OS there is one asking how to get back to Stock MM.
Stock ROMs, Rooting, 7, 7.1.2, 8, 8.1…the options seem endless and scary! If someone else bricks you phone, at least you can blame them but if you bring the misery on yourself…
You say you used a stock AOSP, If you don't mind, could you say which one and how you did it (with any snags you came across). You also note that there are still some bugs. What are they? If I can live with them instead of the ones I’ve got, I certainly consider doing it.
For first time you can't go wrong with the official LineageOS. Just go to their website and check the wiki, it has a comprehensive guide for flashing from the beginning and it will be fine if you follow it.
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For first time you can't go wrong with the official LineageOS. Just go to their website and check the wiki, it has a comprehensive guide for flashing from the beginning and it will be fine if you follow it.
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Apologies for being so hesitant but having never done it before, it's a big, scary step (where have I heard that before...oh, yes...). You used the word "official", there are lots of LineageOS for the Lenovo P2 but no mention of "official", is one of the nightly builds okay to use?
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Apologies for being so hesitant but having never done it before, it's a big, scary step (where have I heard that before...oh, yes...). You used the word "official", there are lots of LineageOS for the Lenovo P2 but no mention of "official", is one of the nightly builds okay to use?
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Yes, but I wouldn't recommend los 14.1
Use a Oreo rom by subham or firelord.
sm00th4f3 said:
I clearly understand why you're fed up with it. Lenovo does really nearly to nothing to support the P2.
In my case, I knew from the get to that I would reflash my phone with a custom rom since stock never came close to them. In any case.
I have used stock AOSP on this phone as well, bugless, fast and stable.
Custom rom can have bugs as well but they are fixable or at least not noticeable. Not all of them though.
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b50corei5 said:
Yes, but I wouldn't recommend los 14.1
Use a Oreo rom by subham or firelord.
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Many thanks for your time and advice.
[ROM][8.1.x][kuntao][OFFICIAL] Cardinal-AOSP - It's all a bit scary but I'm going for it! :fingers-crossed:
Wile_E_Coyote said:
Many thanks for your time and advice.
[ROM][8.1.x][kuntao][OFFICIAL] Cardinal-AOSP - It's all a bit scary but I'm going for it! :fingers-crossed:
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Good luck ?
Remember to do a backup before you start