Worth moving from a Htc Desire? - Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I get a upgrade in a year but is it worth in the mean time to grab a nexus s for a year and give my gf my desire?

ScuzUK said:
I get a upgrade in a year but is it worth in the mean time to grab a nexus s for a year and give my gf my desire?
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Not sure what responses you were expecting from here but YES!
I came from a x10 and a Droid before that. The nexus s is easily one of the best phones on the market (software/xda support).
And considering you can pick one up for two bills its a no brainer.
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I agree. I upgraded from my Nexus One after reading initial reviews of the Galaxy Nexus and its sub par camera. The Nexus S is a significant upgrade. It is much snappier, has a great screen and a terrific form factor. Plus it runs ICS beautifully.

From my experience using the HTC Desire from a friend, yes. The Nexus S is faster and the screen is much better, plus you got ICS that is quite nice.

Worth switching from HTC Desire Z???/tmbile g2?
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Definitely an upgrade. Go for it. There's nothing better than having an oficial Google phone.
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ScuzUK said:
I get a upgrade in a year but is it worth in the mean time to grab a nexus s for a year and give my gf my desire?
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Its interesting you should post this, I've just done the same! Bought a Nexus S from cex cash and gave my missus my Desire, my upgrade comes next September, I'm loving this phone, its bizarre how much better it is than the Desire!
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I would upgrade to Nexus S from HTC Desire, yes.
I just upgraded (downgraded?) from LG O2X to Nexus S, and it was worth it. The Nexus phones are so sexy, and if you are in to rooting and tweaking you phone, Nexus S is the ****.
I just played around with my friends HTC Desire the other day, and I have owned a HTC myself (Legend). And your first impression as an HTC owner switching to Nexus S will probably be "PLASTIC". But you'll get used to it, and after a while using it, the plastic will just breathe future.

I switched from a G1 to Nexus S.. what a huge improvement XD..
and yes its truly worth the upgrade

yes it is! I had a htc desire then switched to a HTC HD2 and now a nexus s. And i will never look back

Jus bought it

ScuzUK said:
Jus bought it
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Welcome to the club, then.

Congratz for your new toy. For everyone else having the same question its defenately worth it. Im coming from a desire and got an ics updated ns. Once i installed the 2.3.2 oxygen rom and got rid of the ics system awake bug I was amazed by the nexus. Also Im not gonna update it back to ics unless its really worth it. Oxygen gb and a good oc uv kernel make this phone hell fast. The bad thing its I got the 9023 and the slcd drains the battery quite fast since Im a hard user. Thats why Im waiting for my 3 spare batteries from ebay.
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ScuzUK said:
Jus bought it
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Congratulations
Follow the leader @corythug

I'll just get an HTC Amazeeee
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the nexus s wifi has some problem,weak.

I did the same road, then I can evaluate.
Desire Pros:
- ringers volume is better (not the best)
- more grip on hands
- more rugged
- better display (I have SLCD Nexus S)
- I love Sense, better agenda, better widget, better contacts manage
- have the led for notification
- better single touch accuracy
- have trackball, very usefull to move cursor
- have SDCARD
- more RAM
Desire Cons:
- no more updated by HTC
- multitouch problem
Nexus S Pros:
- ICS (but you can unlock your Desire to have ICS with non official ROM)
- bigger display
- better audio call
- multitouch ok
- I like soft button (I would not have said before)
Nexus S Cons:
- Stand by and volume button are relief, so they are pressed involuntarily
- it is a soap! all shiny and smooth. Does not exist grip
- The colors of SLCD are bad
- the headphones jack on the bottom
- the front camera is useless to "normal" call
- single touch is not always accurate, often I must re-touch 2/3 times to "click"
- wifi signal is more weak than on Desire. On long distance Desire is better.
- does not have SDCARD
- no trackball
- no led !
so, I love my Desire

Moved from a Desire to Nexus S yesterday. Happy so far. Both running CM7, Nexus just so much slicker, the speaker is much better and so is the bigger screen. Can tell it's faster when doing the usual things too. I did think the no LED would be a problem but you can get the touch buttons to flash or stay on when there's a notification.
Will be trying ICS soon.
It's a nice little update for 6 months until my contract runs out and i can get something new, as it worked out to the handset costing £120, minus whatever i get for it in 6 months.

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What did you switch from?

I had the HD2. I thought I would never have a phone that would take it's place.
But I love the Sensation.
I was just wondering what phones did everyone have before the Sensation.
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HD2, same thinking as you
great minds think alike this was the ONLY phone i was considering to replace my superphone HD2!
Yet another ex-HD2 user here. And I too believe the Sensation is the only phone, worthy of replacing the HD2.
Hello,
had a Nexus One before getting my Sensation, love the screen size/resolution and the device is quite faster, the camera is also better but I don't use it much
too bad the battery drains a lot faster (almost twice actually)
iPhone 3GS. Big difference but I'm loving it so far.
Nexus S
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Bold 9700. The OS just got really boring for me and I wasn't taking advantage of the $30 I was paying per month for data. Really liking the Sensation so far, but there are some kinks that need to be worked out.
LG Optimus M. I traded it in for a $50 rebate and consider myself lucky. That phone was very frustrating - I went through three exchanges between February and April, it was very slow, and I could never get a Metro PCS representative on the phone when I had issues.
Motorola W755... My learning curve is steep.
Coming from the G2X
Switched from Touch HD
Same
Same as OP
from HD2 superphone to Sensation
And because I just loved the Gingerbread rom with Sense 3.0 ^^
Nexus One for 15 months, G2X for 2 months >>>>Sensation 4g
I came from the Nexus S as well and i love this phone wayyy better! and the NExus S has a like no development what so ever and that was supposed to be a 'dev phone'
thebowers131 said:
I came from the Nexus S as well and i love this phone wayyy better! and the NExus S has a like no development what so ever and that was supposed to be a 'dev phone'
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Yes I too came from a Nexus S. I bought the Nexus S thinking it would have the support that the Nexus One did.....boy was I mistaken.
Anyway, sold the Nexus S and and couldn't be any happier with the Sensation.
daveaep said:
Same as OP
from HD2 superphone to Sensation
And because I just loved the Gingerbread rom with Sense 3.0 ^^
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HD2 and it was the sense 3.0 that got me on board but must say I run Miui/froyo/sense 3.0 all still on the hd2 --Love the sensation can't wait till we can actually open er up
Nexus One. Hopefully we'll get lots of good devs for the Sensation like the N1 has!
Mytouch3G 1.0
I have a headphone Jack now lol
Nah but seriously it like going from a mini van to a sports car... Huge difference.
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Coming from a Vibrant (had iPhone 3G for 2 years before switching to Android). The Sensation is what I expected from an Android phone (the Vibrant fell far short of my expectations).

[Q] Which one: Nexus S Versus HTC Incredible S

Hey guys, quick question.
I currently have a htc desire that I passed on to a buddy of mine. I can get either a nexus s or incredible S. no price difference.
this new phone will be used for 3 months max, until my next upgrade
Which one should I keep?
Thanks
The Nexus feels like a cheap piece of plastic and is using very old hardware while lacking such basics as a notification LED and an SD card slot. Go with the quality HTC product.
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+ 1 on the htc quality. Screw samsung
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Thanks for the quick response guys.
Which phone has the best battery life?
The desire had decent battery life with leedriod rom, but I am looking for much better.
Thanks
I don't what to appear facetious but your question is like comparing Haagen Dazs and Ben and Jerry's ! I was very tempted by the Incredible S but in the end I sprung for an unlocked Nexus S (super lcd) and I don't regret my choice. The Incredible S has a more tempting specification but it just doesn't feel right. It feels heavy compared to the Nexus S and there's something about the feel and the curved screen on the Nexus S that makes it very special. Above all, I know that the HTC is due for an update to 2.3.4 very soon but I've been using Google Talk for a month now, and already I couldn't live without it. As for the solidity of Samsungs, I always believed that they were fragile but so far after 1 month (unprotected) in my jeans pocket my Nexus is pristine, although it gets wiped and polished at least twice a day. In conclusion my advice is to not underestimate the importance of the software and the speed of ota updates which so far for me have been lightning fast. One final BIG question : is the bootloader on the Incredible S still locked and signed by HTC ( S-ON or S-OFF) ? If it is, happy hunting when you want to root/flash it - despite the availability of AlphaRevX. I rooted my Nexus S in the time it took to plug in the USB cable + 2 minutes . Good luck, whichever you choose.
Shftup said:
Thanks for the quick response guys.
Which phone has the best battery life?
The desire had decent battery life with leedriod rom, but I am looking for much better.
Thanks
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I never got fantastic battery life with the Nexus S because the SAMOLED screen sucks it like crazy. It would easily account for more than a third of my battery usage throughout the day.
but when you guys think about it, the nexus is googles flagship model. not only is it meant for development, it gets official updates immediately
sweetnsour said:
but when you guys think about it, the nexus is googles flagship model. not only is it meant for development, it gets official updates immediately
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So does any rooted device with CyanogenMod support. Big whoop.
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TheBiles said:
So does any rooted device with CyanogenMod support. Big whoop.
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notice I said official
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TheBiles said:
I never got fantastic battery life with the Nexus S because the SAMOLED screen sucks it like crazy. It would easily account for more than a third of my battery usage throughout the day.
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Totally agree. I have an Evo 3D and Nexus S 4G (AMOLED) and the only reason I can't use the Nexus for more than a day at a time is because AMOLED eats so much battery when displaying white, which is in most of non-system apps/menus. I don't give a damn about the extreme contrast ratios (nice but highly inaccurate). I want battery life. My Evo 3D gets 15 hours minimum with medium usage, which is amazing considering that when I was using an Evo with an extended battery, that was above average.
EDIT: Also for some reason when typing on ANY keyboard, it doesn't register certain taps on keys and it REALLY pisses me off. On my Evo 3D I can type with barely any typos.
Nexus S lol. You would get better life gingerbread is always the best for it just like CM7 great life.
I have a epic im using and I love it so far over the evo 3d
Nexus S! Such a sleek phone when held in hand

Is nexus s still relevant

Do you think there will be a new nexus X out in December, like the last two years. Tempted to jump on the free nexus S today but just not sure...doesn't seem that much better than my n1.
Maybe maybe not, but I just got one really like it. I figure I can always sell it on the 2nd hand market and it should retain some value!
I believe so, I got mine days for the evo 3d dropped and could care less about all the checkbox features and some of those beastly phones out there.
This phone works and battery life is great.
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Its more relavent than my g2 that i just replaced it with.
As far as i'm concerned, it is definitely still relevant.
I just bought the nexus S (off contract) because my samsung captivate decided to crap out on me and I don't regret it now for one second.
I was eyeing the EVO 3D when it came out up here in Canada but, due to my current situation, couldn't wait long.
I thought of a few points after I bought the Nexus S that made me realize it was the Google phone to get.
a) Much better chance of getting updates from Google with the Nexus S than I would've got with HTC, LG, etc. I learned that the hard with with the captivate.
b) Battery life. On my first full charge and I am over 15hrs with 50% battery life left. I imagine I would never get that kind of battery life on the EVO 3D because of the dual cores, 3d gimmick (can turn off though), and their UI sucking out the battery life very quick.
c) No carrier crap on the phone. (also can be a battery sucker)
Imho, keep your N1 if you don't need a new phone (or contract) right now. If you're due to a new contract/renewing old one later I'd wait until the "Nexus 3" is out some time this year or early '12. If you're just wanting a new phone, I'd wait as well
I love my Ns but my missus just got the Galaxy s 2, and its a BEAST!
Its stupid fast and just seems to take everything u throw at it, live wallpapers that make my Ns lag stay super smooth on the S2. But hey, she will only get 1 or 2 updates to Android at best I recon as opposed the Nexus getting much more. Still the S2 made me think a bit...
I would wait a bit if I were you, the NS dont bring much more to the table than you already have with your N1.
Isn't nexus one still popular
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CONTACTMC said:
I love my Ns but my missus just got the Galaxy s 2, and its a BEAST!
Its stupid fast and just seems to take everything u throw at it, live wallpapers that make my Ns lag stay super smooth on the S2. But hey, she will only get 1 or 2 updates to Android at best I recon as opposed the Nexus getting much more. Still the S2 made me think a bit...
I would wait a bit if I were you, the NS dont bring much more to the table than you already have with your N1.
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Which live wallpapers make your NxS lag? I tried a few, I only got the fireworks one from the market (Go! devs wallpaper team) to really stress my phone, but it was still fluent (initial drawer opening was not as fast as before though).
Wow NExus S is faraway better than other smartphones.
Nexus s is the worst phone I've ever owned. Had it a week as spare but getting rid at a loss.
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satan66 said:
Nexus s is the worst phone I've ever owned. Had it a week as spare but getting rid at a loss.
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What other phones have you owned?
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personally... absolutely love this phone.
I have about 13 different android phones laying around.. from the g1 all the way to the galaxy nexus... I picked this up a couple weeks ago just to keep up on my collection... and its the best phone I ha e used.
The form factor. The camera. Everything. Its just a nice phone all around.
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I dont think google will be updating this to ics.they have probably given up thats why carphone warehouse is giving them away.i bought one of these updated to ics but had too many problems.took it back and exchanged but still the same problems.the only rom that works on my device is 2,31.so yes this device is dated.im thinking of selling and buying the evo 3d
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I dont think google will be updating this to ics.they have probably given up thats why carphone warehouse is giving them away.i bought one of these updated to ics but had too many problems.took it back and exchanged but still the same problems.the only rom that works on my device is 2,31.so yes this device is dated.im thinking of selling and buying the evo 3d
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Have fun, I hear the 3D has a friendly and active development community
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satan66 said:
Nexus s is the worst phone I've ever owned. Had it a week as spare but getting rid at a loss.
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what was so bad about it? What other Androids have you/do you use? Ive used quite a few, and nexus s out performs just about ever single core comparable phone Ive tried.
I can respect anyones opinion, but just to say it was crap without qualifying that statement really doesnt give it much merit...
I loved my nexus s but it was time to move on. The sensation i have now is just as good with a better cam/video cam
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Id go as far as saying a highly tuned galaxy vibrant is a better phone than the nexus s bc of external storage and better camera.
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If your happy with running 2.3.1 good luck.there's nothing going for this phone.Disappointed in Google. That's the last time I buy one their phones.The phone ibought will not run properly on 2.36 or ics so had to downgrade.on ics some of my calls were coming in on mute when the volume was on max
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Sounds like you had a bad device. Had no issues with mine
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Any complaints about the Nexus S?

I've been considering trading my HTC Sensation for a Samsung Nexus S. Do you guys have any complaints about the phone hardware wise, build quality etc? The wifi death grip on this phone is about to nearly drive me insane.
My friend has the nexus s and its awesome but I say replace your sensation with HTC or T-Mobile and just root and load a custom rom to make it smooth/smoother.
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Drzfr3shboialex said:
My friend has the nexus s and its awesome but I say replace your sensation with HTC or T-Mobile and just root and load a custom rom to make it smooth/smoother.
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Did that already, phone is as smooth as a baby, but the wifi issue is hardware related, and oddly enough i use my phone landscape 80% of the time, which means wifi is non existent unless I hold it awkwardly. T_T.
The Nexus S is smooth. But the Sensation XE, That I own is smoother than my old Nexus S. With more time and optimization the Sensation will be alot smoother.
That's exactly what I did, I had a Sensation for a few days as an upgrade from Orange, but when I saw a Nexus S on special offer and got one for my daughter, I found it much lighter and the screen better than the Sensation. So I bought one for myself and put the Sensation on Ebay.
I also like the Nexus S OS because it is clean without any manufacturers customisations.
I updated mine from 2.3.1 to 2.3.6 stock ROM. Will wait for the OTA ICS update later this month.
I have found the WiFi to be a bit weak, this apparently is a known problem, otherwise just feels faster than the Sensation.
In future I'm going to stick to the Google phones because I prefer a vanilla Android install.
ashakeeluk said:
That's exactly what I did, I had a Sensation for a few days as an upgrade from Orange, but when I saw a Nexus S on special offer and got one for my daughter, I found it much lighter and the screen better than the Sensation. So I bought one for myself and put the Sensation on Ebay.
I also like the Nexus S OS because it is clean without any manufacturers customisations.
I updated mine from 2.3.1 to 2.3.6 stock ROM. Will wait for the OTA ICS update later this month.
I have found the WiFi to be a bit weak, this apparently is a known problem, otherwise just feels faster than the Sensation.
In future I'm going to stick to the Google phones because I prefer a vanilla Android install.
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Weak because of a software issue? I know the Sensation had a problem like that and a wifi range patch fixed that. Right now I'm seeing now downfall to trading my sensation for the nexus
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I've been considering trading my HTC Sensation for a Samsung Nexus S. Do you guys have any complaints about the phone hardware wise, build quality etc? The wifi death grip on this phone is about to nearly drive me insane.
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I had a sensation and traded it for my current nexus s. Not one ounce of regret.
I've had several android phones and this nexus s hands down is the best. I can see myself having this phone for a couple years and, for me, that says a lot.
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i really want to do the same as you right now. the sensation is getting a little too boring and there is a lack of development on the roms i want. do you guys suggest the nexus s or to keep the sensation? and does the single/dual core have much of a difference?
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i really want to do the same as you right now. the sensation is getting a little too boring and there is a lack of development on the roms i want. do you guys suggest the nexus s or to keep the sensation? and does the single/dual core have much of a difference?
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So far, I've seen no reason to not trade, benchmarks are about the same if not better. One last question, hows the camera?
Only complaint: dog slow compared to GSII. On the plus side, it has such a better form factor and it feels better in my hand.
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So far, I've seen no reason to not trade, benchmarks are about the same if not better. One last question, hows the camera?
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yeah, how is the camera, its 5mp compared to the 8mp in the sensation and theres no hd recording, but its still great for picture taking isnt it?
I had to make the same decision and I haven't looked back. One thing about the sensation that drove me insane was the touchscreen sensitivity. I would always miss keys on the keyboard and I'd have to press harder than I did on my old vibrant. The nexus s has a much better digitizer and is much more responsive over all IMO. Comparable to the galaxy s (not surprising). I will warn you, the screen isn't the sharpest, but the saturated colors and deep blacks are worth it IMO. Aside from that, I can't think of any downsides.
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yeah, how is the camera, its 5mp compared to the 8mp in the sensation and theres no hd recording, but its still great for picture taking isnt it?
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Quality seems great to me, so, switching it is for me!
Thats the thing with HTC. I love the build and Sense (less so since I got ICS on my Nexus S) but the screens are a POS and thats the thing that you interact with the most the screen. It really makes or breaks a phone.
HTC really need to get an Amoled supplier or something similar, else they will fall way behind Samsung in the next few years.
I will not touch another HTC phone because of this.
I've never actually compared my screen to the nexus s. So to me the screen quality seems fine haha. . Although, I used to have the HD7, and the quality of that screen was HORRID.
I had a Hero and the screen was nice.
Then I got a HD2 about 6 months ago and put Android on it. It ran it well but the screen was an abomination. Also, the digitizer was poor as it missed buttons pressed all the time. So I sold it and kept the Hero for another 6 months.
Then I saw the Nexus S for £199 and couldn't resist.
I can't get over how good this phone is.
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Amazing
Got the nexus s last week and what a phone. Super Amoled screen with contour display kicks ass. Very fast GPU
ashakeeluk said:
That's exactly what I did, I had a Sensation for a few days as an upgrade from Orange, but when I saw a Nexus S on special offer and got one for my daughter, I found it much lighter and the screen better than the Sensation. So I bought one for myself and put the Sensation on Ebay.
I also like the Nexus S OS because it is clean without any manufacturers customisations.
I updated mine from 2.3.1 to 2.3.6 stock ROM. Will wait for the OTA ICS update later this month.
I have found the WiFi to be a bit weak, this apparently is a known problem, otherwise just feels faster than the Sensation.
In future I'm going to stick to the Google phones because I prefer a vanilla Android install.
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I did exactly the same, and for the same reasons ;-)

Some advance

Well I have a HTC sensation and I'm due for an upgrade around July I was wondering how do you guys feel about this phone? Is it a good upgrade or just wait for something else? And is development good here?
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I love this phone is fast great screen and great battery life.plus development has really picked up this month just look in three dev section so many new roms
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I owned a sensation for a long time, switched to a SGSII when they went on sale on T-mo, but got the One S as soon they released it on USA.
I consider the One S to be the Sensation's spiritual successor . Go for it, U wont regret
the one s rocks first android phone i have no need to put a custom rom on phone is a beast running stock
The display of the Sensation is a bit sharper and because the One S is very thin, the Sensation fits a bit better into your palm. Everything else is much better with the One S.
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I had a sensation & If you don't mind having a non-removeable battery or sd card slot then the I say go for it, it has an amazing camera, battery life, and nice design.
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It's definitely a better phone, but you might want to see if there is anything better on the horizon for T-Mobile. First off, you still have a couple months before you can upgrade anyway so it would be premature to decide which phone to get now. But also you don't know if the One X or SGS3 will come to T-Mo. If they do you'll definitely want to get those over the One S.
I like my One S but I was coming from an original Galaxy S so it was a more meaningful upgrade.
One S feels amazing in the hand, screen is very beautiful, and is one of the fastest devices, even though it is dual core. So far, battery is good and no issues. I highly suggest this device. I myself was going to wait for the SGSiii but decided against it. HTC has never let me down (3 devices).
As for development, it is very good. I am coming from a Nexus One which was a dev. phone. The only dev issues we currently have is no official kenerl source code release from HTC (waiting, they promise it is coming soon) and no true S-Off. This makes it harder for devs but still possible. It will only get better
@above, One X will NOT come to T-Mo. The only One family device T-Mo announced they will receive is the S; that's all. SGSiii is the only real competition on T-Mo.
Thanks guys, just one major question, camera both rear and ffc how does it compare to let's say an iPhone?
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sTyLeSz said:
Thanks guys, just one major question, camera both rear and ffc how does it compare to let's say an iPhone?
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Rear camera blows away the iPhone's camera and is possibly the best camera as of now along with the one X plus it has the option to take multiple photos by holding the shutter button & that's awesome, but in my opinion I think Apple's ffc is better
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+1 rear camera has amazing quality and speed. It is also real good in low lighting settings as the lense lets in more light. Burst mode is amazing and there is literally no shutter lag. An average image taken in good lighting for me is about 1.9MBs. I am not sure what it is on the iCrap phone.

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