Now we have ICS with sense 3.5 leaked rom,UI just look exactly like gingerbread,when the rom goes official,would the UI close to the current one?or will it look totally different?(E.G Sense 4.0)or any improvement(E.G Full hardware hardware acceleration)Leave comment and discuss here
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My guess is that there will be some minor changes to the look and feel of sense before the official release. But nothing too drastic.
And where is the pictures or prewiew os ICS ?
Can always hope for some nice changes, but as has already been mentioned probably only minor changes, shame really. Ah well, not the hugest fan of Sense in its current state anyway
I will express myself straight - i hate it. And honestly, i don't know what is going on with design section (or something like that) at HTC. Sense 3.0 is great, i like it, it looks good, works good. But Sense 3.5..arghhh, it's design is ugly, it doesn't look good. At all. And other than having Sense 3.5 i would much more like to see plain ICS.
Look of default applications (Yes, i'm talking about you - messages, contacts, calendar etc.) is much more nice on ICS than on Sense 3.5. I totally understood the effort of HTC to make something better on previous versions of Android, because UI was not so great...but with ICS this changes.
Of course I know that there is absolutlely no chance of HTC abandoning Sense, virtually non-existent chance of releasing ,,geek" version of HTC ROM (it would be against htc's will to do it, but this is a long story, not gonna discuss it here) so i guess i will have to bear with it.
If i wouldn't need to use HDMI cable, i would be installing pure ICS (CM9 presumably).
But i still believe in Sense 4.0...please, do something about this horrible monster that 3.5 is.
Of course it has some good functional abilites...but i want my UI look good. That's all.
Bornnover said:
I will express myself straight - i hate it. And honestly, i don't know what is going on with design section (or something like that) at HTC. Sense 3.0 is great, i like it, it looks good, works good. But Sense 3.5..arghhh, it's design is ugly, it doesn't look good. At all. And other than having Sense 3.5 i would much more like to see plain ICS.
Look of default applications (Yes, i'm talking about you - messages, contacts, calendar etc.) is much more nice on ICS than on Sense 3.5. I totally understood the effort of HTC to make something better on previous versions of Android, because UI was not so great...but with ICS this changes.
Of course I know that there is absolutlely no chance of HTC abandoning Sense, virtually non-existent chance of releasing ,,geek" version of HTC ROM (it would be against htc's will to do it, but this is a long story, not gonna discuss it here) so i guess i will have to bear with it.
If i wouldn't need to use HDMI cable, i would be installing pure ICS (CM9 presumably).
But i still believe in Sense 4.0...please, do something about this horrible monster that 3.5 is.
Of course it has some good functional abilites...but i want my UI look good. That's all.
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I agree..but the sense 3.5 actually is good for gingerbread,its way faster than sense 3.0 with more useful widget,i love sense,its user friendly and beautiful,but its combination with ICS just way look alot like gingerbread,many feature from ICS were missing in this leaked rom,im really hope HTC will make changes when it goes official
is there anyway to use the stock ics launcher until sense updates with the InsertCoin ICS rom?
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is there anyway to use the stock ics launcher until sense updates with the InsertCoin ICS rom?
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i suggest you to use trip's ICS,it quite stable and its pure nexus ICS experience
steling said:
And where is the pictures or prewiew os ICS ?
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Annonymous26 said:
i suggest you to use trip's ICS,it quite stable and its pure nexus ICS experience
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Trip's ICS is extremely UNSTABLE!! The phone will freeze for phone calls with 30s or more. The in-call volume is very low, and it freezes when you attempt to increase the volume. The graphic are very glitchy with screen flickers. If you do not wish to make phone calls with your phone, then trip's ICS is fine.
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Trip's ICS is extremely UNSTABLE!! The phone will freeze for phone calls with 30s or more. The in-call volume is very low, and it freezes when you attempt to increase the volume. The graphic are very glitchy with screen flickers. If you do not wish to make phone calls with your phone, then trip's ICS is fine.
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ok thanks
then what ROM do you recommend for ICS stock experience?
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Trip's ICS is extremely UNSTABLE!! The phone will freeze for phone calls with 30s or more. The in-call volume is very low, and it freezes when you attempt to increase the volume. The graphic are very glitchy with screen flickers. If you do not wish to make phone calls with your phone, then trip's ICS is fine.
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its not that bad,just when you make phone call,if you adjust the volume then it will just freeze,through its still a little buggy,but its the most stable ICS pure nexus rom for HTC sensation
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ok thanks
then what ROM do you recommend for ICS stock experience?
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currently most stable is trip's ics,)you can also w8 for Ultimite 1.0 4.0.1 ICS rom,its a new pure google ICS rom for sensation in sensation developement section,just look for it althought its still being uploading,just wait for it,i personally felt that it will be good and definetely better than trip's ics,but,im still prefer ARHD's ICS,its very stable,sense is not that bad
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is there anyway to use the stock ics launcher until sense updates with the InsertCoin ICS rom?
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Flash the zip from this thread to get the ICS default launcher
EDIT: For ICS 4.0.1 with Sense 3.5 Roms Only
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1405457
im on arhd 5.0.1 and its so lag with ics launcher..
I also prefere the design of pure ICS. Sense looks somehow ugly in comparism.
And the rosie lags like hell! Hope HTC will fix that.
So far only sense 3.0 is better for our phone...what if ICS comes with sense 3.0 UI? You may have noticed and compared sense 3.0 roms and sense 3.5 roms based on gingerbread, you'll be agree sense 3.0 is the clear winner in terms of stability and performance..sense 3.5 is too lagy...anyways left sense UI, if ICS comes as AOSP, then I have no problem declaring it as the most stable Rom made for our devices, sense is really a memory Hungary, and after seeing the leak, I got to know that ICS also needs good enough amount of ram CPU speed, how will we make most of it if sense keeps using all the resources and therefore left no room for ICS?
Recent leaks come with Sense 3.5. There is no way Sensation gets anything less.
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Hey
Can someone pls post benchmark score of it
Like linpack smartbench 2011 quadrant
Thx wondering if dual core score is better now with ics support
Bornnover said:
I will express myself straight - i hate it. And honestly, i don't know what is going on with design section (or something like that) at HTC. Sense 3.0 is great, i like it, it looks good, works good. But Sense 3.5..arghhh, it's design is ugly, it doesn't look good. At all. And other than having Sense 3.5 i would much more like to see plain ICS.
Look of default applications (Yes, i'm talking about you - messages, contacts, calendar etc.) is much more nice on ICS than on Sense 3.5. I totally understood the effort of HTC to make something better on previous versions of Android, because UI was not so great...but with ICS this changes.
Of course I know that there is absolutlely no chance of HTC abandoning Sense, virtually non-existent chance of releasing ,,geek" version of HTC ROM (it would be against htc's will to do it, but this is a long story, not gonna discuss it here) so i guess i will have to bear with it.
If i wouldn't need to use HDMI cable, i would be installing pure ICS (CM9 presumably).
But i still believe in Sense 4.0...please, do something about this horrible monster that 3.5 is.
Of course it has some good functional abilites...but i want my UI look good. That's all.
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Mate I feel exactly the same, ICS should be left as is. Everyone knows that sense is a RAM hog and our phones aren't exactly bleeding RAM. ICS is best left untouched in my opinion.
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Personally I think Android without Sense is bland and boring...I love Sense, and the way it integrates everything, inclusing all the social media stuff.
I am happy to take a bit of a performance hit in order to get the great features of Sense
Proz00 said:
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Can someone pls post benchmark score of it
Like linpack smartbench 2011 quadrant
Thx wondering if dual core score is better now with ics support
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quadrant is useless,the best benchmark tool is antutu,my score goes higher after i flashed ICS rom,before ICS my highest score is about 4400,after ICS i got it 5000 in single test,when im using trip's ICS i even got 6200,im sure our phone can be compete with galaxy S2
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Personally I think Android without Sense is bland and boring...I love Sense, and the way it integrates everything, inclusing all the social media stuff.
I am happy to take a bit of a performance hit in order to get the great features of Sense
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yeah,i love sense too,but sense 3.5 UI look outdated compare to google ICS UI
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This is not a best rom question, but I'm curious what subjectively is your favorite and why? Every Rom thread seems to have at least one person chiming in with "tried them all, this is the best" comment, but surely there are some roms that just don't work out for people.
I'm running miui right now, and I love the level of customization and the little tweaks. One of my favorite features is turning on the flashlight from the lock screen, just a little tweak, but so useful. I also really liked honeysense, but I couldn't get it to stop sucking my battery 5% every hour. What do you all think?
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I love tpgb rom for the looks and outstanding battery life. But I also like miui for the pull down messaging and the customization
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Stability. Speed. Decent battery. Everything works. Professional presentation. Elegant.
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Stability. Speed. Decent battery. Everything works. Professional presentation. Elegant.
ROM in sig.
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I guess a feature I can highlight is the CPU clock management scheme. It's automated. I like jacking with my phone as much as the next guy, but CPU clocking is a feature I would rather have automated, and from what I can discern the Virtuous devs came up with quite an elegant solution.
[Edit] And I "build" CPU's for a living haha. Funny/strange and funny/haha in a way that is pretty much the one thing I'd just as soon not to have to eff with on my effin phone :-o .
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I guess a feature I can highlight is the CPU clock management scheme. It's automated. I like jacking with my phone as much as the next guy, but CPU clocking is a feature I would rather have automated, and from what I can discern the Virtuous devs came up with quite an elegant solution.
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I haven't tried that one yet, it seems very interesting. There seems to be a lot of hate for sense based roms out there, but they are often very polished. I'll have to try it out.
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I haven't tried that one yet, it seems very interesting. There seems to be a lot of hate for sense based roms out there, but they are often very polished. I'll have to try it out.
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I like the Sense UI. Yeah I know it takes up RAM blah blah blah but whatev's I like it. As far as this ROM goes, I can't find a d-thing wrong with it. Nothing. It's like what a stock ROM should be, and Virtuous is way better than the AT&T stock ROM.
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Stability. Speed. Decent battery. Everything works. Professional presentation. Elegant.
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Co-sign all of this
I need a panoramic option in cm7. :/
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Co-sign all of this
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Well I co-sign your co-sign, and double dog dare ya double down!...,,,it's a great ROM ey?
Well, I like the fact that we at least have *choices,* no matter what the ROM, sense or no-sense, this radio or that radio, etc...
This thread wouldn't be happenin' in iPhone-land.
Currently running Honeysense and I love the low battery consumption compared to other ROMs. Other ROMs have just drained my battery crazily. But running Honeysense has prolonged my battery life greatly while giving me my favorite Sense features on my phone. Couldn't be happier with it.
I like cm7 for tweaking the auto brightness settings, customizing the power widgets in the notification bar, and customizing the haptic feedback settings.
CM7 Nightly 6/19/2011 I'm new to this but I have had 3 roms and this one is superfast and runs Netflix like a champ
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Well, I like the fact that we at least have *choices,* no matter what the ROM, sense or no-sense, this radio or that radio, etc...
This thread wouldn't be happenin' in iPhone-land.
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When I was looking into buying a phone, I told the guy I was waiting for the iphone5 before making a decision. He then told me that's stupid because no matter what, you're still stuck with ios. I was a little offended because I had jailbroken my iphone and had tweaked it with lockinfo, five icon dock, sb settings, themed with winterboard and more. I showed him my phone thinking I would shut him up, and then he replied that I was half way to android. I couldn't believe this, but the more research I did, I realized that even jailbroken, I was still not able to do everything I wanted to on my phone.
One of the biggest reasons I went Inspire over Atrix was the number of Roms available and the XDA support was much better. On a spec sheet, the Atrix has Inspire beat in almost every category, but I believe the user experience is better on Inspire. Can't be happier.
Finally, for those of you on Virtuous Unity, how would you compare that ROM with RCmix3D? I really liked RC, so I'm wondering what the differences are.
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When I was looking into buying a phone, I told the guy I was waiting for the iphone5 before making a decision. He then told me that's stupid because no matter what, you're still stuck with ios. I was a little offended because I had jailbroken my iphone and had tweaked it with lockinfo, five icon dock, sb settings, themed with winterboard and more. I showed him my phone thinking I would shut him up, and then he replied that I was half way to android. I couldn't believe this, but the more research I did, I realized that even jailbroken, I was still not able to do everything I wanted to on my phone.
One of the biggest reasons I went Inspire over Atrix was the number of Roms available and the XDA support was much better. On a spec sheet, the Atrix has Inspire beat in almost every category, but I believe the user experience is better on Inspire. Can't be happier.
Finally, for those of you on Virtuous Unity, how would you compare that ROM with RCmix3D? I really liked RC, so I'm wondering what the differences are.
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I keep hearing about the RCMix ROM. I will put that one on the list. One issue some of us did find the last day or so is we are not able to connect adb. Weird. I am just waiting for my phone to charge to 100% and I am going to re-flash the ROM full wipe with no apps restore in an effort to see if the issue is the ROM or something in my settings.
Edit" This was fixed with a full un-install / re-install of the Android SDK. Wjy the previous install worked on other ROM's and not this one is unknown. Totally enjoying Virtuous OC'd at 1.4M. I have delved into the built it CPU frequency management scheme and it blows away cheesy CPU apps. Totally elegant.
Running LeeDroid v3.2.1 with full sense 3.0/3D add-on and it's arguably the best rom I've ran to date. The battery isn't the greatest but I keep it plugged in at my desk for the most part so it isn't really an issue for me. I love the visual aspects and animations of this rom like the 3D UI/3D widgets, the lock screen with the Lord of the Rings modded ring and the Photo grid widget.
Favorite part about my ROM??
NO SENSE!!!
GingerBeast has been the longest ROM I've had installed (39 days and counting) since getting the Inspire back in March.
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Favorite part about my ROM??
NO SENSE!!!
GingerBeast has been the longest ROM I've had installed (39 days and counting) since getting the Inspire back in March.
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+1 for Ginger beast. Only ROM i have ever kept for more then 1 week. That includes my previous android Captivate. It was the same dev that and he always puts out great quality. Gb is simple/crazy fast/stable and record breaking battery life for me.
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+1 for Ginger beast. Only ROM i have ever kept for more then 1 week. That includes my previous android Captivate. It was the same dev that and he always puts out great quality. Gb is simple/crazy fast/stable and record breaking battery life for me.
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I was on gingerbeast for a good two weeks, and it is a great rom. The one thing that I couldn't get over was the lack of tap to focus on the camera. I know it's a little thing, but I just missed it so much from my sense based roms. I went to miui as a result, and was surprised at how many customizations it has. I just flashed virtuous unity today, and so far so good!
right now im loving cyanogenmod 7 nightly 110 which i think is good enough for a stable release but i love the power and battery i get from it, 46 hours and still going
Can I ask for an HTC Sense 2.1 rom? I really find the Sense 3.0 rosie a hassle and the carousel, though pretty cool, gets annoying when I need to quickly scroll to a certain homescreen. Also I prefer the smooth basic screen transitions of Sense 2.1 as opposed to the 3D effect transition on Sense 3.0 roms.
Actually, IMO, the best rom would be an HTC Sense 2.1 with Sense 3.0 features (lockscreen mainly) fusion. Can anyone make it happen? (aka Undeadk9)
FOR A BETTER IDEA OF WHAT I'M SAYING, here's a Tmobile G2/HTC Desire Z running an HTC 2.1 base+3.0 rom: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FQ-kNW-nGFA
Ummm no. Sense 3.0 is so much better. No dev would do that. It's not something a large group of people would use.
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Ummm no. Sense 3.0 is so much better. No dev would do that. It's not something a large group of people would use.
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You're right but I just want to make sure: Is it possible to downgrade our MT4GS's Sense 3.0 to Sense 2.1? If so, how? (I'd like to design a custom rom myself )
You would need to find a phone compatible with our device. I'm thinking the MT4G or Desire HD and port it to Doubleshot.
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From my developmental tests from Sense 2.1- Sense 3.0 on the HTC HD2 and Desire HD,
I realized that it's possible to port the Sense 3.0 rosie to a Sense 2.1 rom. I'm wondering if it's possible to port the Sense 2.1 rosie to our MT4GS's Sense 3.0?
Sense 2.1 sucks compared to 3.0 use undead sensless rom u wont be dissapointent
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I could probably do that, but I only make ROMS I intend on using, I'm pretty busy with school and work, but If I have a free weekend I might give it a try. However I don't think it would be worth it, a lot of features would be cut, since I wouldn't spend time optimizing it for the MT4GS, just the basic 2.1 ROM.
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I could probably do that, but I only make ROMS I intend on using, I'm pretty busy with school and work, but If I have a free weekend I might give it a try. However I don't think it would be worth it, a lot of features would be cut, since I wouldn't spend time optimizing it for the MT4GS, just the basic 2.1 ROM.
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Thanks dude, I appreciate it alot man. And I know what you mean about busy. 5 AP classes + a job leaves very little free time, let alone the fact that you have other stuff to do. But if you could get the basic Sense 2.1 rosie and perhaps provide me tips on how to implement the widgets (especially the clock widget, it's basically the trademark of Sense haha), that would be all I'd need.
Also, couldn't you literally just replace the Rosie from a MyTouch4g/DesireHD sense 2.1 rom, as well as the other htc widgets as Seo did to bring a Sense 3.0 port to Sense 2.1 roms?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1062962
The reason I want this is simply because I hate the carousel of Sense 3.0 (it still lags occasionally), but love the widgets.
I simply don't like the features of LPP or ADW because, in those launchers I can't use Sense widgets...
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Thanks dude, I appreciate it alot man. And I know what you mean about busy. 5 AP classes + a job leaves very little free time, let alone the fact that you have other stuff to do. But if you could get the basic Sense 2.1 rosie and perhaps provide me tips on how to implement the widgets (especially the clock widget, it's basically the trademark of Sense haha), that would be all I'd need.
Also, couldn't you literally just replace the Rosie from a MyTouch4g/DesireHD sense 2.1 rom, as well as the other htc widgets as Seo did to bring a Sense 3.0 port to Sense 2.1 roms?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1062962
The reason I want this is simply because I hate the carousel of Sense 3.0 (it still lags occasionally), but love the widgets.
I simply don't like the features of LPP or ADW because, in those launchers I can't use Sense widgets...
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The carousel lags? Apparently you never flashed my sense on crack rom. I never got any lag at all.
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The carousel lags? Apparently you never flashed my sense on crack rom. I never got any lag at all.
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You're right I haven't tried it yet. I'll give it a shot sometime later. Too lazy to s-off and sort it out. I just hate the 3d flip animation, I like the smooth screen transitions that were on the older Sense rosies.
I'm still contemplating whether I want this phone or return and exchange for a Sensation. Of course either way, it's Sense 3.0 carousel.
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You're right I haven't tried it yet. I'll give it a shot sometime later. Too lazy to s-off and sort it out. I just hate the 3d flip animation, I like the smooth screen transitions that were on the older Sense rosies.
I'm still contemplating whether I want this phone or return and exchange for a Sensation. Of course either way, it's Sense 3.0 carousel.
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KEEP IT. The Sensation is a piece of crap, I worked for T-Mobile and we have returns on them more than anything. They overheat, the touchscreen is highly unresponsive, and the screens look mediocre... Even after installing custom ROMs they still have issues.
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KEEP IT. The Sensation is a piece of crap, I worked for T-Mobile and we have returns on them more than anything. They overheat, the touchscreen is highly unresponsive, and the screens look mediocre... Even after installing custom ROMs they still have issues.
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Yea, but there's so many devs for the Sensation, I wish our MT4GS had more...
Oh and btw, those devs just ported over the HTC Amaze 4G's (aka MT4GS's) camera to their Sensations. WOOW is all I can say.
Plus, with the second coming of smartphones in the HTC Amaze and SGSII, there'll be even less reason for future devs to work on this phone.
Gotta admit though that I like the hardware keyboard as an additional option for typing. It may be crappy compared to the G2, but I've never used a slider-phone before.
And, I hate the designs of the Amaze and GSII, they're even more curvy than the MT4GS and Sensation, lol.
Sorry...to get back on topic, Undeadk9, would it be much simpler to port the Sense 2.1 rosie over onto a Sense 3.0 rom? Rather than modding an entire rom? And is it as easy as I think it is?
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KEEP IT. The Sensation is a piece of crap, I worked for T-Mobile and we have returns on them more than anything. They overheat, the touchscreen is highly unresponsive, and the screens look mediocre... Even after installing custom ROMs they still have issues.
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I agree. Keep the phone. Plus this cpu is meant to clock at 1.5ghz. The sensations is right where its suppose to be. Plus this device has a way better processor. And the keyboard is a huge plus.
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In another phone, you can just trick Rosie into thinking it's running on a Sense 2.1 device and it will run in 2.1 mode. However, I don't think it's possible with the native MT4GS Rosie since it's specifically compiled for us/TMO. I could be wrong though, worth decompiling it and taking a look at it.
I wouldn't run Sense 2.1 though. That's boring.
Or maybe you could exchange it for a desire hd or mytouch 4g since you're looking for older software. there's not going to be a whole lot of demand for older software on a newer device unfortunately.
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Or maybe you could exchange it for a desire hd or mytouch 4g since you're looking for older software. there's not going to be a whole lot of demand for older software on a newer device unfortunately.
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That's exactly what I don't want, as you can see the MT4GS is SUPERIOR to those devices. But I really prefer the simplicity of the old sense, and combined with a 1.2 GHz dual-core processor, it would be 1000000x faster + no lag. Why would I want to go back to the "Stone Age" so to speak?
Really and truly it's the carousel that bothers me, if I didn't have to deal with the carousel on Sense 3, it would be just fine.
And let's just put it this way: Sense 2.1 is exactly what Sense 3.0 is WITHOUT the carousel. So for those of you who don't prefer the carousel, this is what you want. Of course there's the lockscreen, but I'm talking purely on the basis of the rosies.
Sorry for the double post, my previous one was loaded.
I'll just say that Ima try and put one together myself.
I also posted a video on what I mean by Sense 2.1+3.0. (Check first post)
I also posted a poll to gather the opinion of users in this forum.
If there are too many No's, then I will stop this thread from further discussion.
So you just want the sense 2.1 interface but with sense 3.0 basically. Why don't you try a new launcher?
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You're right I haven't tried it yet. I'll give it a shot sometime later. Too lazy to s-off and sort it out. I just hate the 3d flip animation, I like the smooth screen transitions that were on the older Sense rosies.
I'm still contemplating whether I want this phone or return and exchange for a Sensation. Of course either way, it's Sense 3.0 carousel.
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"Too lazy to s-off and sort it out..."
But you're willing to "...design a custom rom myself"?
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"Too lazy to s-off and sort it out..."
But you're willing to "...design a custom rom myself"?
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All of this nonsense because you dislike the 3.0 carousel? Im sorry but you have lost your mind. And your to lazy to s off? Its a 5 min process Thats completely automated and pain free. But yet you want to design a rom which could take days maybe weeks? All Im seeing is a huge lack of common sense.
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as i know,cm7 and the miui are the most rocking rom in android,but im wondering that why our sensation forum is not ?isn't cm7 performance can beat over sense?
CM7 and Miui are great add-on fir Sensation, I buy HTC for Sense UI ,smooth scrolling, great email apps,navigation and great widget. Screw those who said Sense is slow. If I want AOSP I would've get Samsung. To me AOSP sux balls and boring.
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cm7 and the miui are the most rocking rom in android
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i've tried both and didn't like them at all
here's the bottom line. Sense is cooler looking (except the ICS sense 3.5, to me it looks like ****. seriously. wtf. ). It IS slower. People who said it isn't are in denial. Sense is just really heavy due to the framework and ****.
Aosp is boring. as EpSix said. but, it's fast. muuuuch faster than any sense rom. Doesn't matter what "aosp" rom it is. CM7, MIUI, CM9. It's all faster than sense. Problem is it doesn't look as good out of the box. The customizations are endless when a stable build comes out. Just take CM7 + ADW Launcher + Theme chooser. it's heaven.
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here's the bottom line. Sense is cooler looking (except the ICS sense 3.5, to me it looks like ****. seriously. wtf. ). It IS slower. People who said it isn't are in denial. Sense is just really heavy due to the framework and ****.
Aosp is boring. as EpSix said. but, it's fast. muuuuch faster than any sense rom. Doesn't matter what "aosp" rom it is. CM7, MIUI, CM9. It's all faster than sense. Problem is it doesn't look as good out of the box. The customizations are endless when a stable build comes out. Just take CM7 + ADW Launcher + Theme chooser. it's heaven.
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What part of this sense 3.6 looks ****.
Its also super fast now on this rom Elegancia 2.1.6, maybe not quite up to Aosp speed, but close enough.
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What part of this sense 3.6 looks ****.
Its also super fast now on this rom Elegancia 2.1.6, maybe not quite up to Aosp speed, but close enough.
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I'm sorry if I have offended you in any way, but I am a more minimalistic person. I do not like fancy neon colors. to me it's an eye sore. but that's what sense gives. so I guess my point wasn't valid. it's up to the user, but to me it's ****.
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I'm sorry if I have offended you in any way, but I am a more minimalistic person. I do not like fancy neon colors. to me it's an eye sore. but that's what sense gives. so I guess my point wasn't valid. it's up to the user, but to me it's ****.
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No offence taken. lol
I just seen it as a way to show off my device, and what can be done with sense. And the fact that you say sence is cooler looking.
Everbody has the on way, other wise we would all be using the same rom, like sheep.
The only thing that i dont get. Is why people buy HTC to use Aosp roms.
Im sorry if my post came across as being a little agressive.
Steve
I bought HTC because it was between the Sensation and the S2. The S2 woud've cost me 65,000won vs the Sensation's 56-57,000won. (In Korea, you don't buy the phone outright unless you want to drop 850,000won. So you pick a plan and a phone and pay off the phone in installments.)
I liked Sense but wanted ICS already so I flashed a custom ROM.
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The only thing that i dont get. Is why people buy HTC to use Aosp roms.
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Why shouldn't they? Unless you buy a Nexus device you're going to get a manufacturer GUI, whether it's Sense with HTC, Touchwiz with Samsung, Blur with Motorola, etc.
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Why shouldn't they? Unless you buy a Nexus device you're going to get a manufacturer GUI, whether it's Sense with HTC, Touchwiz with Samsung, Blur with Motorola, etc.
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Lol getting my ass kicked in hear
Sorry me being thick, not thinking others supliers use there own GUI like touchwiz etc.
Like i said above, everyone has diffrent ideas, i was just wondering.
Steve
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The only thing that i dont get. Is why people buy HTC to use Aosp roms.
Steve
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To me, I bought this device because of the dual core, and I don't want a Samsung. I would have gotten the gal nex if it was HTC.
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What part of this sense 3.6 looks ****.
Its also super fast now on this rom Elegancia 2.1.6, maybe not quite up to Aosp speed, but close enough.
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The nasty clock. The ****ty outerglow on all the icons, the ****e textured background and the horrendous weather icons.
Installed CM7 and MIUI and never looked back. ICS is awesome too!
the last good Sense was 3.0, which is why I'm still on it. 3.5 and 3.6 feel clunky and I haven't met anyone who prefers the soft gray over 3.0s hard grays and blacks.
AOSP roms offer the best battery life and smoothest experience, but there aren't any rock solid ones for the Sensation yet.
as for MIUI, it has always been very slow and laggy. maybe if it were GPU accelerated, but no goddamn way is that going back on my phone.
Sense for apps and widgets.
Miui for iphone look
Aosp for plain look
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Sense UI sucks!
First of all the calendar app doesn't even show titles of events on the boxes(you have to click on them to see it), which is USELESS if you use calendar. You might as well take an actual, physical wall calendar and just mysteriously draw boxes for all your appointments, because that's all you get with Sense calendar.
Personalize button stuck on the main screen is also retarded lol, who the bloody hell is changing their wallpaper/ringtone that frequently to need it stuck on their main screen! Calm down with the uber personalization, I just want to use my phone!
The USB cable screen is a hulking behemoth of steaming poo, why are there like THIRTY THOUSAND OPTIONS FOR USING A USB CABLE?! The first time I saw it I had to change my undergarments. Stock Android just has "connect to pc" and then.....what do you know? "disconnect from pc."
And on the dialer screen, god help you if you decide to call someone you don't have a photo for. The giant huge ass green Android that pops up on the screen with a white background will blind you and scar your eyes forever with its obnoxious ugly huge size. Jesus phone, calm your ass down, I just want to make a call!
Want to use secure lockscreen? Good luck! You can't even see who's calling you, because they are so desperate that you use their nifty HTC lockscreen. You have to use two lockscreens! What a bunch of ****!
I also always hear people talk about their HTC widgets. Well who the bloody hell in their right mind would want a huge ass clock taking up half the screen? Not to mention you already have a clock(look at the top right corner of your phone) but why buy the Sensation and have a big screen just to put a clock that takes up half the screen on it?! I guess you can look "cool" to your friends, but I prefer a useful home screen!
Not to mention it's LAGGY!
I am currently using CM7, I was using VQ but couldn't stand the reboots. Waiting for a stable CM9 release.
sergeybrin said:
Sense UI sucks!
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Fair enough if that's your opinion.
First of all the calendar app doesn't even show titles of events on the boxes(you have to click on them to see it), which is USELESS if you use calendar. You might as well take an actual, physical wall calendar and just mysteriously draw boxes for all your appointments, because that's all you get with Sense calendar.
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Never use the Calendar so I can't comment on it.
Personalize button stuck on the main screen is also retarded lol, who the bloody hell is changing their wallpaper/ringtone that frequently to need it stuck on their main screen! Calm down with the uber personalization, I just want to use my phone!
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I don't think it's that big a deal. For 'normal' users who may not know about long pressing the home screen and going to the settings Menu it could be fairly useful. Besides, I believe you could re-assign it to something else if you want, at my old Hero could.
The USB cable screen is a hulking behemoth of steaming poo, why are there like THIRTY THOUSAND OPTIONS FOR USING A USB CABLE?! The first time I saw it I had to change my undergarments. Stock Android just has "connect to pc" and then.....what do you know? "disconnect from pc."
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Bit big of an exaggeration there ! There's only 5 options (On ICS).
Once again I do think it makes things like Tethering a bit quicker to use. I don't use HTC Sync but I can definitely see why it's on the cable screen, people who use Outlook may need to sync their Calenders every day or so and this just makes it easier.
And on the dialer screen, god help you if you decide to call someone you don't have a photo for. The giant huge ass green Android that pops up on the screen with a white background will blind you and scar your eyes forever with its obnoxious ugly huge size. Jesus phone, calm your ass down, I just want to make a call!
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I don't have photos for anyone and I always though it looked fine. Never bothered me since my phone is up to my ear so I don't look at it anyway apart from briefly.
Want to use secure lockscreen? Good luck! You can't even see who's calling you, because they are so desperate that you use their nifty HTC lockscreen. You have to use two lockscreens! What a bunch of ****!
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Not sure about this one since I had a call today and my phone was locked and I could see the caller fine. Maybe this is different on ICS and Gingerbread.
I also always hear people talk about their HTC widgets. Well who the bloody hell in their right mind would want a huge ass clock taking up half the screen? Not to mention you already have a clock(look at the top right corner of your phone) but why buy the Sensation and have a big screen just to put a clock that takes up half the screen on it?! I guess you can look "cool" to your friends, but I prefer a useful home screen!
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Me! Although, I didn't buy the Sensation just for the clock.
I keep it mainly because I find the weather section useful and it acts as a shortcut to alarms and the stopwatch etc.
So no it's not to look 'cool' (at least not in my case).
Not to mention it's LAGGY!
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I think it was always quick and smooth, didn't notice any lag on Stock Gingerbread.
With ARHD it's quick, the only thing that could be a bit quicker is the Settings Menu, but it's beta so that's a non issue.
I am currently using CM7, I was using VQ but couldn't stand the reboots. Waiting for a stable CM9 release.
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I look forward to CM9 as well.
big_sw2000 said:
The only thing that i dont get. Is why people buy HTC to use Aosp roms.
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This is my third Android Device. Two of them have been from HTC and the other from Motorola. I buy HTC not because of Sense, it does provide some 'eye candy' but its not for me. I go with HTC because of their great build quality and the fact that they are so developer friendly. With the number of ROMs under development, its hard to not find one that doesn't work for you.
AOSP CAN be boring, but with a few modifications, you can make look just as good as Sense:
Check out ADW EX as a launcher replacement. Tons of themes to choose from and easy to swap out icons.
I use Beautiful Widgets for a 'sense like' clock. IMO, it runs circles around the stock sense clock widget, much more customizable.
I do use the Calendar quite frequently. Pure Grid Calendar Widget is just as good as the sense calendar if not better.
Bottom line: to each their own. Some like a minimal look. Others like a flashy setup. Find what works for you and enjoy it. =D
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The nasty clock. The ****ty outerglow on all the icons, the ****e textured background and the horrendous weather icons.
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Like i said, everyone to there own. Thats exactly what i like about Sense.
As per title, what is the fastest sense Rom available? Is sense 3.0 faster than 3.5?
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As per title, what is the fastest sense Rom available? Is sense 3.0 faster than 3.5?
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Endymion is the fastest and best performing sense ROM for the ds, in my opinion.
I used to find sense 3 faster.... but that was before Endymion.
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Ditto. Before Endy, all Sense 3.5 roms were base on leaked betas, so they were laggy. Endymion is the fastest, and stable too.
+1
HTC optimized 3.5 for speed, functionally and efficientcy.
It's a much appreciated upgrade from 3.0
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Quadrant results:
CyanogenMod 9 alpha vs. Virtuous Quattro RC3
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Alright, even though the scores are appreciated, he asked for the Sense ROM.
OK, about the scores. W00t ?!?!?!?!
I knew cm9 was faster, but by 900? And Quattro, an AOSP ROM got 1300? That's too low. I have to test this myself
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Alright, even though the scores are appreciated, he asked for the Sense ROM.
OK, about the scores. W00t ?!?!?!?!
I knew cm9 was faster, but by 900? And Quattro, an AOSP ROM got 1300? That's too low. I have to test this myself
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Now you've pissed off the AOSP champion!!
Lol..
Been meaning to try out ICS myself... but am sticking to Reaper till HTC releases a new kernel and drivers specific to ICS... I'm all for bleeding edge experience, but dirty hacks for libs and drivers seem like a compromise to me (HD2 runs everything... but if you've run them, you'll know what i'm talking about)
So while i'll keep fooling around with the alpha betas and "RC"s, properly optimized ICS is still a couple of months away (I mean, we've had GB for ages now, and even today, ROMs like Reaper and Endymion are still exploiting more and more of it... milking out more juice than we knew we could) I'm looking at April or May as a timeline for an ICS ROM that will run as smoothly as most GB roms run on the DS today... and a little longer for something akin to Reaper on ICS.
Cheers.
Note to self : M...u...s...t .................. S...t...o...p .................. R...a...m...b...l...i...n...g...
Disclaimer : Before all you hardcore ICS fanboys gear up to flame me, please understand that i'm a fan too... but opinions are opinions, and just like you, unfortunalely i have mine too!!
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So while i'll keep fooling around with the alpha betas and "RC"s, properly optimized ICS is still a couple of months away
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Hit the nail right on the head. But still, i can't go to GB AOSP, i find ICS a lot better. I can't go back to sense, it doesn't play well with my apps. So I'm kinda stuck I still like Quattro, a score doesn't prove anything. My apps feel faster than GB, especially HD games like Blood and Glory.
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Endymion is the fastest and best performing sense ROM for the ds, in my opinion.
I used to find sense 3 faster.... but that was before Endymion.
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Same here. Endymion has really fast sense, imho faster than virtuous. But of course you should try them yourself.
AOSP - Reaper
Sense 3 - Hyperion
Sense 3.5 - Endymion
Endymion 100% in Sense 3.5
Fastest Sense Rom?
No doubt Endymion is the fastest but Energy RCMix 4.0 Energized BLUE Edition is also a good one. It is fast and very stable rom.
For me Runydroid v3.0 or v4.0 are lighters and fasters than the others rom. They are very stable too.
But it's only my opinion..
I'm can only recommend Saga 3D by proxuser, using it right now. It runs very smooth, stable and is amazingly fast thanks to lowveld's Hyperion Kernel.
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I'm can only recommend Saga 3D by proxuser, using it right now. It runs very smooth, stable and is amazingly fast thanks to lowveld's Hyperion Kernel.
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Have you ever tried a Sense 3.5 ROM before?
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I'm can only recommend Saga 3D by proxuser, using it right now. It runs very smooth, stable and is amazingly fast thanks to lowveld's Hyperion Kernel.
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LoL... you're happy your current ROM runs "amazingly fast thanks to lowveld's Hyperion Kernel".... Imagine what an entire ROM by Lowveld is like!!
It's like saying my Ford runs faster with a Merc engine.... Ever taken the SLS-AMG for a spin?
P.S. : Not my intention to insult anyone's work/ROM, and you're most welcome to stay on your current ROM... but hey, I'd like to quote Mr. Chris Martin here... if you never try, you'll never know.
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No doubt Endymion is the fastest but Energy RCMix 4.0 Energized BLUE Edition is also a good one. It is fast and very stable rom.
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did you join this forum in november and this is your first post right now?
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LoL... you're happy your current ROM runs "amazingly fast thanks to lowveld's Hyperion Kernel".... Imagine what an entire ROM by Lowveld is like!!
It's like saying my Ford runs faster with a Merc engine.... Ever taken the SLS-AMG for a spin?
P.S. : Not my intention to insult anyone's work/ROM, and you're most welcome to stay on your current ROM... but hey, I'd like to quote Mr. Chris Martin here... if you never try, you'll never know.
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Coldplay <3
Also I was just wondering, because this guy says Sense 3.0 is the fastest... But in fact its a fact that 3.5 is wayyy faster!
No quadrants or anything. You can actually feel the speed difference under your fingertips!
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Right, installed Endymion rom yesterday and its very good. Fast and very stable.
Its not far off my previous HTC sensation in terms of speed.
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did you join this forum in november and this is your first post right now?
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Because all the problems that i faced like bootloader unlocking, rooting and installing numerous roms on my desire s were already asked by other members so i didn't need to put any questions on the forum.
Now...before anyone goes crazy and gets mad. I'm not trying to be a troll here by any means. I don't hate ice cream sandwich. I know it has a lot of improvements, which is always great
But...Ice cream sandwich... is just plain ugly looking to me when compared to Gingerbread. Does anyone else feel this way?
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I don't just mean the wallpapers. Gingerbread just looks so much more "Android" ish. Ice cream sandwich looks... odd. By no means is it garbage. It just doesn't look like android to me.
And I've also heard they are removing the menu button. THAT alone, killed any chance of me ever buying another android phone/device. It's one of the main reasons I came to love android so much. I don't understand why they are removing the "technical" feel that it has in favor of a "apple-ish" feel. If you get me.
I don't mean to sound like I hate Google/Android...But...honestly. I kinda am, now...Maybe it will change as we go along. But honeycomb was a disaster to me. I hope it improves.
Maybe I am over stepping my grounds...but I am just very disappointed in it all. Just as much as I am disappointed in Windows 8 metro... *shivers* Ugh.
How about you guys?
Menu is still there its just being moved to the upper right hand corner in most apps. Older apps not written for ICS have the legacy menu button appear. I do kind of wish they would just leave the button in one place. Besides for that you can always install a separate launcher. I don't really like the trebuchet launcher with CM9 so I installed ADW EX which gives a more GB feel.
I've been running ics for about a month, but I haven't used the galaxy nexus with the on-screen buttons though but I really prefer the layout over gb. I think the Widgets in the application drawer is amazing, I love the persistent search bar and the scrollable Widgets. I like gingerbread just fine but I like ice cream sandwich a lot more.
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Menu is still there its just being moved to the upper right hand corner in most apps. Older apps not written for ICS have the legacy menu button appear. I do kind of wish they would just leave the button in one place. Besides for that you can always install a separate launcher. I don't really like the trebuchet launcher with CM9 so I installed ADW EX which gives a more GB feel.
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Now... as always please pardon my android noob-ergy. So... Even with Cm9 I could somehow make it look like Gingerbread? That would solve most of my issues. But still...removing the menu button... Why google...
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Now... as always please pardon my android noob-ergy. So... Even with Cm9 I could somehow make it look like Gingerbread? That would solve most of my issues. But still...removing the menu button... Why google...
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I haven't gotten my hands on a device that will run CM9 (talk to me again next week, E4gT otw) but the beauty of CM was always full customization. It probably wouldn't be too hard to install a new launcher and theme etc.
Overall I love the look of ICS tho. Seems more modern. I'll def have a better feel for it when I get my new phone. I've loved every major release of Android tho, and I started on 1.6 on a G1. (Please bring back multicolor LED notify light!!! ha)
all the new things have a time to adapt in a few time you will accept as well
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Now... as always please pardon my android noob-ergy. So... Even with Cm9 I could somehow make it look like Gingerbread? That would solve most of my issues. But still...removing the menu button... Why google...
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Don't worry once ICS becomes stable on more devices you will see plenty of themes. It will take a bit as there have been a lot of changes but you will be able to make it look anyway you want. Like I have already started porting my Gotham theme to ICS.
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Now... as always please pardon my android noob-ergy. So... Even with Cm9 I could somehow make it look like Gingerbread? That would solve most of my issues. But still...removing the menu button... Why google...
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They are not removing the menu button. just moving it. on Modaco you can get the menu button to be visible at all times.
Maybe time to root if you get a ICS device?
Sounds like you haven't rooted before. Because the UI is the easiest to change on Android. You can even make ICS look just like GB
However i think it's look great than Touchwiz.
I actually agree. I like the new features that come with ICS, but the UI is ugly to me.
I do agree that Gingerbread looks more.. Android-themed whereas ICS looks.. slicker. Not a dealbreaker, of course. I do feel google seems to have caught the Apple bug of one-customization fitting all; I would love to see Gingerbread themes available by default, for example.
Not that I can really complain, considering that I added the menu button back (though looking completely different) with a custom ROM. But there's another option I wonder why they didn't just provide by default..
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but the UI is ugly to me.
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I think that might actually be a background issue. (The UI itself may not be "android", but I don't think it could really be called ugly.) It deemphasizes the icons. A deeper background actually helps to emphasize them.
(That messaging app is disconcerting, though.)
I could not disagree more on this. gingerbread to me was an eye soar. the puke green status icons never worked for me. I like the ICS annimations better. Over all the UI for ICS is just much more polished and refined IMO. I have a honeycomb tablet with an ICS port and it shipped originally with Gigerbread. The ICS port is not ready for everyday use but if just looks and feel is all I am going off for me ICS > Honeycomb > Gingerbread
Gotta concurr with mcord11758. ICS to me looks more professional than GB
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Gotta concurr with mcord11758. ICS to me looks more professional than GB
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+1. Totally agree.
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To the OP: Yes, yes you are.
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I do agree that Gingerbread looks more.. Android-themed whereas ICS looks.. slicker. Not a dealbreaker, of course. I do feel google seems to have caught the Apple bug of one-customization fitting all; I would love to see Gingerbread themes available by default, for example.
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How are they becoming more like Apple? You can still have custom home screens with widgets, etc. You can still install different launchers. They are just updating the default UI. If they didn't update the UI then they would be like Apple, I don't think iOS has seen a major UI overhaul since 2007.
Mha ... the end has not changed greatly in terms of graphics, they just made sharper contrasts. What I love ics is its multitasking, notifications and its all part of "technique" that is behind. The menu button, I've yet: D
i think pre ICS android looked rather gruesome, buttons, menues, popups, checkboxes, radiobuttons, all the basic elements shamefully awful even. it was evident that they didn't spend much time thinking about looks and usability. i'd say it's is a pretty good leap now, you feel right away they have put alot of thought in it. i like it so much i'd never install a ROM that changes it drastically and i'm happy to see CM9 und AOKP go along, widen the capabilities without distracting from the clear AOSP concept.
but keep in mind it was designed for nexus, high definition screens, maybe amoled, and software keys. seems like an OS that was envisioned for the hardware it runs on, not just random linux with buttons and checkboxes thrown onto whatever device is available.
I like ICS more, it's better then gingerbread or MIUI. All menu, etc..
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How are they becoming more like Apple? You can still have custom home screens with widgets, etc. You can still install different launchers. They are just updating the default UI. If they didn't update the UI then they would be like Apple, I don't think iOS has seen a major UI overhaul since 2007.
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I'm obviously exaggerating a bit, but the keywords here are custom and different. Yes, we can search far and wide to do these things ourselves, but I'd like the options to be already there by default. That, I feel, is more with the Android spirit. It's also helpful for non-technical users who aren't as daring as we are.