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So, the official ICS RUU upgrade is here. I've had some experience with various custom ICS roms, and I found that I love Sense (3.6) and ICS.
Reading the prerequisites and other documentation got me thinking. I hope you guys can answer my questions, or some of them.
1. What does the ICS RUU have over custom ICS roms? I can't imagine anything, except for an updated radio perhaps?
This will help me determine whether I may get the ICS RUU or stay on a custom rom.
2. The prerequisite is having the HBOOT 2.00.2002 bootloader. Plenty links and instructions for backupping and flashing that, that will work.
However, *why* is is necessary to update it? Something to do with the size of the ICS RUU, which leads me to believe that the HBOOT 2.00.2002 is much smaller than my current alpharev 6.98.1002 HBOOT. But AFAIK (in general) bootloaders are quite small..
3. Are the any advantages to the HBOOT 2.00.2002 bootloader? Besides being to install the ICS RUU.
4. Since I'm thinking of updating other parts of my phone besides the OS itself (HBOOT, see point 2) I got thinking about the radio too.
My radio is version RADIO-3805.06.02.03_M
I have very poor reception in some parts of the country where I regurarly am (many weekends per year). Updating to the latest official Radio may give me better reception. Updating to what HTC considers the best radio firmware seems like a good idea, right?
Is this the wrong forum to ask these questions?
Quark^2 said:
1. What does the ICS RUU have over custom ICS roms? I can't imagine anything, except for an updated radio perhaps?
This will help me determine whether I may get the ICS RUU or stay on a custom rom.
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Not everybody cares, I know, but I do.
Quark^2 said:
3. Are the any advantages to the HBOOT 2.00.2002 bootloader? Besides being to install the ICS RUU.
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Let's see... no need to go the X-Clip route to root your phone, just do an unlock and that's it.
You should do your research first as almost all has already been answered.
1. ICS that came out is official from HTC. That means its more stable, faster, and less buggy from their eyes. And may also be true if compared to other Custom ROMs. Its a matter of preference and ROM testing to see the differences.
2. The untouched ICS ROM also works for HBOOT v2.00.002 (came from Sense 3.0 release, Gingerbread). The HBOOT v2.02.002 (came from Sense 3.6 release, Ice Cream Sandwich) is an updated version of the latter. There maybe great changes, or maybe not. I have not seen any changelog from the net. Based on my experience, HBOOT from ICS does not want the System/Lib partition to be formatted via ROM flash from recovery. But the HBOOT from the GB can.
3. Not known yet. See number 2.
4. Yes and no. Yes, because HTC wants you to use the radio that is included from the RUU as they see fit that that is the best for its ROM. No, because some ROMs or its developers, same as HTC, prefers certain radios to be used, that is if you plan to use custom ROMs. Regarding your reception, the Desire S has already been found to have a lesser or weaker reception compared to other phones. Even older Nokia phones sometimes are better from it. Depends on your area as well.
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HBOOT Upgrade for HTC Desire CDMA ?
Hi,
Just wondering if its possible to Upgrade the HBoot version of HTC Desire CDMA
I am currently on HBoot ver 6.06.1002
Plz let me know
Regs,
Praveen
Skanob said:
You should do your research first as almost all has already been answered.
1. ICS that came out is official from HTC. That means its more stable, faster, and less buggy from their eyes. And may also be true if compared to other Custom ROMs. Its a matter of preference and ROM testing to see the differences.
2. The untouched ICS ROM also works for HBOOT v2.00.002 (came from Sense 3.0 release, Gingerbread). The HBOOT v2.02.002 (came from Sense 3.6 release, Ice Cream Sandwich) is an updated version of the latter. There maybe great changes, or maybe not. I have not seen any changelog from the net. Based on my experience, HBOOT from ICS does not want the System/Lib partition to be formatted via ROM flash from recovery. But the HBOOT from the GB can.
3. Not known yet. See number 2.
4. Yes and no. Yes, because HTC wants you to use the radio that is included from the RUU as they see fit that that is the best for its ROM. No, because some ROMs or its developers, same as HTC, prefers certain radios to be used, that is if you plan to use custom ROMs. Regarding your reception, the Desire S has already been found to have a lesser or weaker reception compared to other phones. Even older Nokia phones sometimes are better from it. Depends on your area as well.
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praveenrv said:
Hi,
Just wondering if its possible to Upgrade the HBoot version of HTC Desire CDMA
I am currently on HBoot ver 6.06.1002
Plz let me know
Regs,
Praveen
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Emm, im afraid this is the wrong thread, this is in the "Desire S" forum.
Hi Folks! I am completely new to XDA as well as all the android stuff, I used to be on Nokia before Forgive me if I have posted in the wrong section...
Basically I managed to upgrade my HTC Desire S to ICS 4.0.4 using the RUU on HTCDev.com. Having used it for about a month now, I want to go back to Gingerbread 2.3.5 Sense 2.1 as it is much easier on the battery as well as being much smoother to run. My problem is that from the shippedromes.com site, there are several gingerbread ruu's available, so out of this list (these are all europe), which one do i choose for Gingerbread 2.3.5 with Sense 2.1?:
1. RUU_Saga_S_HTC_Europe_2.10.401.5_Radio_20.4801.30.0822U_3822.10.08.04_M_release_219480_signed.exe
2. RUU_Saga_S_HTC_Europe_2.10.401.8_Radio_20.4801.30.0822U_3822.10.08.04_M_release_225161_signed.exe
3. RUU_Saga_HTC_Europe_1.28.401.1_Radio_20.28b.30.0805U_38.03.02.11_M_release_177977_signed.exe
4. RUU_Saga_S_HTC_Europe_2.10.401.9_Radio_20.4801.30.0822U_3822.10.08.04_M_release_234765_signed.exe
5. RUU_Saga_HTC_Europe_1.47.401.4_Radio_20.28I.30.085AU_3805.06.02.03_M_release_199410_signed.exe
To me they all look the same but obviously there is some difference as they have different numbers in their file names.
Thanks in advance!
The trouble is you can't just flash a ruu version lower than the one running on your device (downgrade), because by default you can just upgrade.
See this thread for the procedure to downgrading.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1318919
Be careful as you will probably lose your warranty doing this!
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The trouble is you can't just flash a ruu version lower than the one running on your device (downgrade), because by default you can just upgrade.
See this thread for the procedure to downgrading.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1318919
Be careful as you will probably lose your warranty doing this!
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Thnx for your quick reply,
My phone is already over 1 year, so warrenty is is gone anayway I think!
I understand the procedure to downgrade my phone, such as changing the HBOOT, unlock bootloader, S-off, revolutionary, clockwork recovery etc. But when it comes to actually installing/flashing the Gingerbread RUU, which RUU should I used? I wan to downgrade to Gingerbread 2.3.5 (the one that shipped with the phone originally) with Sense 2.1. I'm in the U.K, and my phone is unbranded. It is also currently running Ice Cream Sandwich 4.0.4 with Sense 3.6. If you could inform me which RUU I should use from the list in my first post I will be very grateful.
Thnx again
The ruus with 2.10 at the beginning are definitely sense 3.0, I don't know which sense version 1.47 and 1.28 ruus are, but 1.28 will be the oldest.
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The ruus with 2.10 at the beginning are definitely sense 3.0, I don't know which sense version 1.47 and 1.28 ruus are, but 1.28 will be the oldest.
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Thanks alot! I think I will flash 1.28 first and see what it is. If not, I will probably flash 1.47 instead, which should be possible without anymore tinkering as it's a higher RUU.
And I definitely don't want Sense 3.0, I would rather stay on ICS then!
Thanks again for the quick answers!
There was never Sense 2.1 for this phone to begin with. Sense 3.0 is the earliest you can get.
This makes your question, well, void.
Any Gingerbread RUU will be fine.
1.28 is Sense 2.1.
1.47 is the same but with some fixes. I suggest to go with this.
The rest higher versions are with Sense 3, except the ICS RUU of course
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make sure u get the lowest version to get Hboot 0.98.0000 in order to proceed with the revolutionary to root ur device , if u have problem with scanoob post with the misc version let me know , his one doesnt work , i got working misc to downgrade the hboot.
Now that we all have s-off (well, all can) would it be possible to port the Sense camera to non-Sense ROMs and use the ImageChip? Or is that a separate issue?
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Now that we all have s-off (well, all can) would it be possible to port the Sense camera to non-Sense ROMs and use the ImageChip? Or is that a separate issue?
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S-off will give us write permission basically any partition, lets say to be able to flash radios etc.
Sense camera and the image chip needs sense framework aka a sense rom. we will never see it unless HTC is going crazy and release their sources what they won't.
The imagechip uses closed source firmware and drivers. Unless someone somehow reverse engineered the chip (unlikely) or HTC released their source (extremely unlikely) then it's not possible.
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hi
after my flashing exploits and managing to brick my htc one xl i am a little weary of messing around with it this time
last time i was trying to achieve s-off and corrupted the boot and image
managed to get it repaired and it has come back with custom recovery and is now s-off
is it true that sense 5 has been officially released?
my htc used to be on Asia htc006
the guy fixing it has installed custom recovery for me
can i run a ruu to take me to sense 5 ? or should i just install a custom rom?
thanks in advance
Sense 5 has been officially released. No need to run an RUU or anything, just flash one of the Sense 5 ROMs from our development section here. There are a few to choose from, ranging from completely stock to custom features. They're all based on the official update though.
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Sense 5 has been officially released. No need to run an RUU or anything, just flash one of the Sense 5 ROMs from our development section here. There are a few to choose from, ranging from completely stock to custom features. They're all based on the official update though.
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does it matter what hboot and panel firmware i am on?
ps thanks for the reply
They shouldn't matter. Some users experience signal drops and reboots on those ROMs though, which can be fixed by either flashing the Beastmode kernel or updating the firmware to the 2.15 version.
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emu123 said:
is it true that sense 5 has been officially released?
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It would have taken you about 5 seconds to look in the Development section, and any number of other threads, and answer that question for yourself.
As mentioned, no need to run the RUU, and I'm not even sure RUUs are available for Sense 5 ROMs yet, anyway.
I want to try liberty rom and it needs newer hboot. I have a really old hboot and i wonder how/where to get a new one. And are there any disadvantages with the 2.16 hboot? Because i remember in the past my old hboot was good because i wiuld flash radios even with s-on. But now im s-off so maybe it doesnt even matter...just asking.^^
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I want to try liberty rom and it needs newer hboot. I have a really old hboot and i wonder how/where to get a new one. And are there any disadvantages with the 2.16 hboot? Because i remember in the past my old hboot was good because i wiuld flash radios even with s-on. But now im s-off so maybe it doesnt even matter...just asking.^^
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Disadvantages:
You have only the choice between cikoleko's [ROM][UNOFFICIAL][4.4.4][04-JUL] CyanogenMod 11 HTC One S [hboot 2.16] and bilals [ROM][4.4.2][Sense 6][SVN] LIBERTY One S - The Sixth Element, which are currently supporting hboot 2.16.
I've you decide to switch over to hboot 2.16, you may follow the steps described in {Discussion}{KK 4.4.2}{Sense 6}{S4} Liberty ROM & Flashing Instructions (thx to dd98) starting with point 5-15.
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Disadvantages:
You have only the choice between cikoleko's [ROM][UNOFFICIAL][4.4.4][04-JUL] CyanogenMod 11 HTC One S [hboot 2.16] and bilals [ROM][4.4.2][Sense 6][SVN] LIBERTY One S - The Sixth Element, which are currently supporting hboot 2.16.
I've you decide to switch over to hboot 2.16, you may follow the steps described in {Discussion}{KK 4.4.2}{Sense 6}{S4} Liberty ROM & Flashing Instructions (thx to dd98) starting with point 5-15.
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ok, and will i be able to go back on lower hboot if i later decide to use another ROM?
MarcTremonti said:
ok, and will i be able to go back on lower hboot if i later decide to use another ROM?
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Yes for sure!
alright, thats everything i wanted to know. ty very much!
Hboot 2.16 changes
Does anyone know what the changes are from Hboot 2.15 to 2.16? Is there more storage space for the user?
Thanks!
I'm sorry for being a bit ignorant but.. what's the reason to upgrade the hboot? I have s-off, hboot 2.15, and I had no problems with installing Liberty 6th Sense. Any suggestions?
This is actually the best ROM I had and tested for Ville S4, and I can recommend it for anyone (no major issues with battery life, ringtones, communication BT/WIFI/LTE/GPS, restarts). Still, the most stable was my old, original ROM, but... I wanted to taste something new ;>
6th Sense won with:
CandyCat (very good ROM but communication issues eliminated it),
MaximusHD (communication failures and no ringtones),
Liberty S4Max (ringtones and several lost communications)
ViperOne S 3-2-1 (reboots).
Looking forward for future updates of 6th Sense. Thanks for everyone for work on this.
Why does it clearly state in multiple places that HBOOT 2.15 is not supported?
I have no major problems with CandyKat at all.