Is there really hope in sight for the droid charge? We dont really have many choices anf i was wondring if i should stick with my ole charge
Stick with it. AOSP is coming soon
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HTCluva said:
Is there really hope in sight for the droid charge? We dont really have many choices anf i was wondring if i should stick with my ole charge
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Sell it immediately.
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i am going to the bionic do what your gut tell ya lol
I have thought about it. Its still a good phone and I can stay optimistic about development right? Haha
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Doesn't heart but my father in law is giving me his charge for free so I have nothing to lose lol
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O id take it then haha gain a bionic
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I mean he is giving me his bionic already have a charge lol
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Development will likely continue for this phone. Official Gingerbread has barely been out for 2 weeks. Patience is a virtue.
I have looked at all the Verizon phones. I conclude that the Charge is the right phone for me.
I personally can't stand all the phones on Verizon except the Charge. The Nexus is decent, but I don't like it for various reasons:
1. Screen is fairly dim at full brightness
2. Pentile display, hard to notice compared to other displays but still noticeable
3. No Wolfson DAC or Voodoo Sound
4. No SD card
5. Cellular basebands are the same as the Charge
6. I don't really jive with the curved glass, kind of cool, but not my thing
7. GPU is the same as the Charge (although rougly a 53 percent clock boost, the display has 140% more pixels- furthermore, the Nexus only 60 percent more subpixels- this lends to a fairly taxed GPU)
8. The phone is big. I think the screen-size is great but the bezel should be reduced to make the phone feel more phone-like.
I can't stand the Bionic. The screen is pretty hideous IMO. Get what you want or works for you. If you want dual-core, go for it.
You can make your Charge fast, it just takes patience.
Try ICS Fugu, V-6, Change the scheduler to noop or deadline, change SD card cache, overclock, freeze all the bull**** you don't use, get a faster SD card, etc.
imnuts said is starting work on ICS, and he seems pretty optimistic about at least getting it going. The Nexus has almost identical radios, so that will help. It may not be perfect out of the gate, but getting a base out there will hopefully at least draw more interest.
Haven't heard of changing SDCard cache. How do you do that?
The easy way is with sd booster from market. I use sd tools to test my settings. I got my sd reads from 16MB to 21MB per sec.
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Haven't heard of changing SDCard cache. How do you do that?
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You can also use Rom Tool Box which gives you more options than just that.
xdadevnube said:
The easy way is with sd booster from market. I use sd tools to test my settings. I got my sd reads from 16MB to 21MB per sec.
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Just messed with this the first time today. Got mine from about 17MB/sec to 26MB/sec by changing the cache size to 1024.
xdadevnube said:
Development will likely continue for this phone. Official Gingerbread has barely been out for 2 weeks. Patience is a virtue.
I have looked at all the Verizon phones. I conclude that the Charge is the right phone for me.
I personally can't stand all the phones on Verizon except the Charge. The Nexus is decent, but I don't like it for various reasons:
1. Screen is fairly dim at full brightness
2. Pentile display, hard to notice compared to other displays but still noticeable
3. No Wolfson DAC or Voodoo Sound
4. No SD card
5. Cellular basebands are the same as the Charge
6. I don't really jive with the curved glass, kind of cool, but not my thing
7. GPU is the same as the Charge (although rougly a 53 percent clock boost, the display has 140% more pixels- furthermore, the Nexus only 60 percent more subpixels- this lends to a fairly taxed GPU)
8. The phone is big. I think the screen-size is great but the bezel should be reduced to make the phone feel more phone-like.
I can't stand the Bionic. The screen is pretty hideous IMO. Get what you want or works for you. If you want dual-core, go for it.
You can make your Charge fast, it just takes patience.
Try ICS Fugu, V-6, Change the scheduler to noop or deadline, change SD card cache, overclock, freeze all the bull**** you don't use, get a faster SD card, etc.
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Well spoken my friend- and it would help if the doom sayers would be quiet and maybe contribute a little more than skepticism... Imnuts is going to port over ICS for the Charge and this undoubtedly will help the development towards the charge. And we should be grateful that we have a dev that is still active- I have seen dozens of phones even in this forum that have hardly any development and some that did that have none now. There's also new people learning to write the android language constantly so there will always be new devs coming along, esp. since android is so progressive.
Imnuts is the dev that we can always go to for a good rom. Him and donalo
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I have the Atrix 4G and am having too many issues with it. So I was thinking of transferring over to the Inspire.
Few questions:
-Hows the battery?
-Are the data speeds any better than the Atrix?
-Does the UI and the OS run smoothly?
UI is solid and runs well. Battery is good if you treat it nicely as far as wifi, data and brightness. Can't tell you anything about data speeds vs. Atrix. What kind of issues are you having with the Atrix?
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UI is solid and runs well. Battery is good if you treat it nicely as far as wifi, data and brightness. Can't tell you anything about data speeds vs. Atrix. What kind of issues are you having with the Atrix?
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The "HSPA+" is the same or slower than the 3G that my captivate had.
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The "HSPA+" is the same or slower than the 3G that my captivate had.
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HSPA+ wont be deployed til next month.
Just picked mine up today. LOVE it so far. Noticed that it seems to charge much faster than my friend's Incredible and doesn't seem to drain as quickly. This phone is infinitely better than the Captivate I returned. The only thing I miss at all is Swype. Gonna install that later today.
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there are people installing swype and they are saying it works well. I personally have never got to the point where I liked it. It just made me have to think too much when trying to compose anything but to each thier own...
I've had the Inspire for almost a week now.
Hows the battery?
- The battery isn't as bad as I thought. You still have to babysit it, though. Turning the desplay down and staying on top of Bluetooth and Wifi usage will help. I can get through the day with only 1 charge. 1 Push email, 2 other emails @ 30 min. syncs, half dozen calls, moderate texting, and moderate web browsing.
Are the data speeds any better than the Atrix?
- Don't have the Atrix to test. There are reviews on the web that have tried and tested both. It'd be best if you try to find those to make a conclusion. Keep in mind though, data speeds are only as could as the carrier. In this case, we're dealing with the Death Star. Read into that what you may.
Does the UI and the OS run smoothly?
- The US and OS run as smooth as warm butter over toast. Many reviews online also report the same. I see no lags. The 2nd generation Snapdragon processor definitely helps. You won't be disappointed in OS speed.
As for switching between the Atrix, you may need to look into battery life depending on how you use your phone. As far as data speeds, do a little research as I don't know the answer. You won't be disappointed with the Inspire though. I LOVE the phone!
I exchanged my inspire and got the atrix; big mistake. I had to go back to radio shack to get my inspire back. The atrix is not for me. I like HTC and sense.
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I am absolutely loving my inspire. Especially since I rooted and installed a custom Rom and overclocked kernel.
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I've never used the Atrix, but the Inspire is amazing. I took my phone off the charger this morning at ten and still have 48% left. This is with moderate texting, web browsing, market, and just messing around with the operating system, so the small battery doesnt affect me that much.
I'd go with it.
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I've never used the Atrix, but the Inspire is amazing. I took my phone off the charger this morning at ten and still have 48% left. This is with moderate texting, web browsing, market, and just messing around with the operating system, so the small battery doesnt affect me that much.
I'd go with it.
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I use my phone A LOT. I text, video chat, download apps, listen to music, call people, play games, and watch movies. So I think ill stick with the bigger 1930mAh battery in the Atrix.
Thanks though
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The "HSPA+" is the same or slower than the 3G that my captivate had.
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That is not your phones fault. It's att they locked it out of hsupa untill may. Same with inspire.
Battery is better than with mycaptivate. This phone rocks.
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Hows the touch screen keyboard?
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Hows the touch screen keyboard?
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I've been attached to a physical keyboard for years. I decided to let it go cause I wanted the Inspire, and I've found the keyboard very easy to get used to.
Magic_Bunny said:
I use my phone A LOT. I text, video chat, download apps, listen to music, call people, play games, and watch movies. So I think ill stick with the bigger 1930mAh battery in the Atrix.
Thanks though
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The Inspire "only" has a 1230 mAh battery, but it's also a single-core, extremely efficient CPU. Talk time is rated about the same for both phones, but the standby on the Atrix is much, much lower (372 vs 250 hours, according to gsmarena). What does that mean? I suspect it means the Inspire is much kinder to it's battery.
Having said that, I rebooted my (mostly) stock phone today, and noticed the battery life was much, much worse. Loading Advanced Task Killer** I saw there were about 30 running apps, with about 111mb free. Killed the non-essentials, and things seem better now.
** I don't advocate task killers, and I never use them in automatic mode-- they are useful occasionally, though.
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I've been attached to a physical keyboard for years. I decided to let it go cause I wanted the Inspire, and I've found the keyboard very easy to get used to.
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Ok, I was asking because its the same with me. I really prefer a keyboard but I dont really think I want the LG Quantum (I have an upgrade coming up and I think im gonna go with the Inspire) so the inspire is the phone I'm considering, but I was never big on touch screen keyboards because of response and ease of use. Plus, all of my recent phones have been windows phones, but I wanna try an Android powered phone. As long as I can sync my contacts from Outlook and create word docs im fine.
i have the inspire and love it
im watching this right now
youtube com/watch?v=bf_w_BC-I68
apparently i cant post links
I really enjoy the Inspire. My battery life was ok until I loaded CM7 on it. Once I did that, my battery life improved astronomically. I'm torn between my iPhone 4 and Inspire. I wish there was a way to cross them because there are aspects I truly love about both.
Task killers are gay, they don't anything helpful. Not with Android 2.1 and up... they're useless. Android operating system.knows what processes to keep and kill when needed... freeing up RAM on an Android OS is not necessarily a "good" thing. Just saying.
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i have the inspire and love it
im watching this right now
youtube com/watch?v=bf_w_BC-I68
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Great link.. I don't regret my purchase
Title says most. I am going to be getting my charge on tuesday and have been doing some research about what rom to try, and gave it narrowed down to these two. which one do you like more and why? I have read the threads on both and they seem pretty even, just wondering which one you prefer and why...thanks for any and all responses!
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Perhaps you did not research enough, enjoy.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1171270&highlight=humble
they are both good but I prefer Humble because of the battery savings...Gummy is very snazzy looking though and works pretty much flawlessly and quick. Its a tough choice honestly but I personally want/need the battery to be as efficient as possible and for the Rom to do everything I need it to do.....Humble does that for me..as an example I have been unplugged for 9 hours---dropped 31% battery! I say thats a pretty nice win!
Of course your mileage may vary and everyones battery life is different...I think either way you will be happy...I say try both for a few days each and see
I will be trying both personally...but I have to flash one on both my daughters and wifes phones as well..and they hate it when I change their rom after they her their phone setup
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Heard that, thats why I never work on my familys phone anymore. Lol.
Why do you have to flash it on both of their phones? Just try it yourself and then give out the goods lol,
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I will be trying both personally...but I have to flash one on both my daughters and wifes phones as well..and they hate it when I change their rom after they her their phone setup
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No one seems to get that battery life is 99 percentinfluenced by the kernel....most framework mods that claim battery savings are either placebo or stupidity
Humble gets good battery life because it packagesimnuts undervolt kernel in
Use the same kernel with gc and you will get virtually identical results
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No one seems to get that battery life is 99 percentinfluenced by the kernel....most framework mods that claim battery savings are either placebo or stupidity
Humble gets good battery life because it packagesimnuts undervolt kernel in
Use the same kernel with gc and you will get virtually identical results
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I'm completely 100% as noob when it comes to this as my Charge is the first smartphone I've ever had and I really want gummyCHARGED but i want good battery life. So how do I do this?
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No one seems to get that battery life is 99 percentinfluenced by the kernel....most framework mods that claim battery savings are either placebo or stupidity
Humble gets good battery life because it packagesimnuts undervolt kernel in
Use the same kernel with gc and you will get virtually identical results
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I used the same kernel on both..not the same battery consumption..sorry
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I used the same kernel on both..not the same battery consumption..sorry
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There is little to nothing in a rom that would impact battery life unless there is an app that is not letting the phone sleep if something
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There is little to nothing in a rom that would impact battery life unless there is an app that is not letting the phone sleep if something
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well at any rate it is a truth..I have tried gummy on 2 totally separate occasions and battery life on Humble(which I have also tried switched back and forth from) is a decent amount better..I dont know why but it is......I always flash the same exact kernel which is Imnuts non OC one
I was using imnuts pbj voodoo kernel and decided to try gummycharged and it just locked up the phone, sloooooow reaction to moving screens, scrolling, opening apps, etc and would lock up all the time... might've been my imagination but data (3G/4G) seemed flaky too, even after several wipes and reflashes. Guess my Charge doesn't like it Oh well I just loaded up the debloated EE4 and it flies with imnuts kernel
blazing through on my VZ Droid Charge
hockeybpr25 said:
I'm completely 100% as noob when it comes to this as my Charge is the first smartphone I've ever had and I really want gummyCHARGED but i want good battery life. So how do I do this?
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First smart phone u have ever had and you want to mod it before u even have it? How do u even know about smartphone mods without having a smartphone as a frame of reference?
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First smart phone u have ever had and you want to mod it before u even have it? How do u even know about smartphone mods without having a smartphone as a frame of reference?
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uhmmmm i want better battery life. i'm a CS major too so i'm fine with technology, i just never wanted to pay the 30 a month for data until now. and i've had the phone for a few weeks now.
Humble has great battery life, don't want to disregard what Nitsuj said but I swear I have much better battery life switching over to Humble then I did on GC. It might just be the battery gremlins but the battery life was noticeably different, maybe it's just my imagination since its advertised to be a low power ROM.
Humble has some cool animations, it's sort of a love hate thing. You may get incredibly sick of it after awhile but you can easily turn the option off.
Humble is updated very frequently, that might not be a good thing for you. It's very easy to flash the updated versions if you're already on Humble but you may not want to keep downloading new updates every few days, I personally love it. Keeps the ROM fresh.
Humble doesn't have that nasty freeze/reboot issue that happened about once every day or two on GC. Might have been a bad flash but I read about others saying it happened to them as well.
I believe Humble has an increased Dalvik cache which supposedly is the source of increased battery life. I have personally never used GC, but flashed Humble on day one and fell in love with it compared to the stock ROM.
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well at any rate it is a truth..I have tried gummy on 2 totally separate occasions and battery life on Humble(which I have also tried switched back and forth from) is a decent amount better..I dont know why but it is......I always flash the same exact kernel which is Imnuts non OC one
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I hate it when people that obviously have no clue as to what they are talking about start making BS up.. Especially ones who disagree with people who obviously know a ton more than them like nitsuj17....
I can tell you right here and now that there is no way that Humble has significantly better battery life the GC or vice versa..
I am not here to rip on Humble its fine rom (Its built on the GummyCharges base) and if people like it better than GC than that is fine. But people who spread BS piss me off.
I have been making ROM's for the better part of a year now across multiple Phone(three) and will tell you that any ROM especially ones built from the OTA (such as these) will never see an increase of more or less than 5 ~ 10% better battery life with any tweak you can apply. The increase they do get is from removing bloat and install custom Kernels..
If both ROM's were set side by side with the same kernel they would more or lass last the same amount time under the same utilization.
Making a change to the heap size in the build.prop will not change battery life, anyone who tells you that is full of $hit or obviously clueless..
Sorry gotta call FUD when I see FUD
To the OP I suggest yo try out all the ROM's and make the decision based on your own opinion.. Most ROM's will be a vast improvement over stock.
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I hate it when people that obviously have no clue as to what they are talking about start making BS up.. Especially ones who disagree with people who obviously know a ton more than them like nitsuj17....
I can tell you right here and now that there is no way that Humble has significantly better battery life the GC or vice versa..
I am not here to rip on Humble its fine rom (Its built on the GummyCharges base) and if people like it better than GC than that is fine. But people who spread BS piss me off.
I have been making ROM's for the better part of a year now across multiple Phone(three) and will tell you that any ROM especially ones built from the OTA (such as these) will never see an increase of more or less than 5 ~ 10% better battery life with any tweak you can apply. The increase they do get is from removing bloat and install custom Kernels..
If both ROM's were set side by side with the same kernel they would more or lass last the same amount time under the same utilization.
Making a change to the heap size in the build.prop will not change battery life, anyone who tells you that is full of $hit or obviously clueless..
Sorry gotta call FUD when I see FUD
To the OP I suggest yo try out all the ROM's and make the decision based on your own opinion.. Most ROM's will be a vast improvement over stock.
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how is my personal experience making BS up? Like I stated I dont know why the battery life is better. I am not a dev or even super experienced in smart phones. but the fact is with the same Kernel and the exact same apps running that are restored from TB on all ROMs the battery life is different. I appreciate everything that everyone does here to improve and make these devices better than they originally came out. The things you guys do and the knowledge you have is crazy. Way more than I can ever understand personally.
Maybe it was an error on my part when I installed the other various ROM's. I dunno...but my own personal experience is not BS. Its upsetting to have someone claim that my honest experiences with my device are BS. I receive no benefit to claiming either is better or whatever. If you see post #3 I pretty much said what you said. try them out and form your own opinion.
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well at any rate it is a truth..I have tried gummy on 2 totally separate occasions and battery life on Humble(which I have also tried switched back and forth from) is a decent amount better..I dont know why but it is......I always flash the same exact kernel which is Imnuts non OC one
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how is my personal experience making BS up? Like I stated I dont know why the battery life is better. I am not a dev or even super experienced in smart phones. but the fact is with the same Kernel and the exact same apps running that are restored from TB on all ROMs the battery life is different. I appreciate everything that everyone does here to improve and make these devices better than they originally came out. The things you guys do and the knowledge you have is crazy. Way more than I can ever understand personally.
Maybe it was an error on my part when I installed the other various ROM's. I dunno...but my own personal experience is not BS. Its upsetting to have someone claim that my honest experiences with my device are BS. I receive no benefit to claiming either is better or whatever. If you see post #3 I pretty much said what you said. try them out and form your own opinion.
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Because like it or not your opinion is based on perception and perception is easily fooled when it comes to battery life on these phones. I have seen it again and again. People believe that one ROM has better battery life than another bla bla bla.. Most if not all those people have no numbers to back up their assumption.. To top that off I am sure you did not recondition your battery stats before using each ROM.
And on top of all that its almost impossible to create an environment where you actually test each phone equally.
So what we have to go by is what is actually changed.. And I can tell you here and now... Its almost nothing, nothing under the hood is that much different at least in the modules and drivers and radio and kernel. And as someone who is a dev I can tell you that nothing about either ROM can make that much difference in battery life.
I have gotten good results and battery life from humble. First time i used gc it didnt do well on my phone. Not sure why. Second time around it was much better.
I also used altered beast v4 and it was just awful on my phone. Exchanged my phone for a new one and installed the same v4 as before and it was like a totally different rom.
I have had similar experiences with blackberries as well and if i remember correctly people always said roms act differently with other same model phones
I always set my phone up the same way and with the same apps and widgets.
I come from an HTC Aria and I remember back in the Aria forums that people said that overclocking your device could fry your processor. The Aria comes packed with a 600mhz processor and it could overclock up to 800 mhz. Now on the Inspire forum I read posts from people who overclocks their phones up to 1.6ghz and apparently nothing happens. That's 60% more than what it is meant to run. I can't help to wonder:
1- Is it really that risky?
2- What's a safe speed to run my Inspire at?
I came from an Aria too. I have yet to find an app that needs more tha about 900MHz. I run mine at 883.200 just to save on battery. It's fun to jack it up to 1.804800GHz and get a quadrant screen capture(1), but I don't see any practical use for that much OC on a phone. As far as damage, I think you'll see erratic operation before you do any permanent damage.
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Mine is usually set with setcpu at 1305 using the smartass2 governor.
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I kept mine at 1.2 most of the time. I even took it up to 2ghz just to see what it was like
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OC is all dependent on the device. Some devices can handle it and some cant, best bet is to try it on yours and find where it can be OC to. Not all phones are made equale.
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I came from an Aria too. I have yet to find an app that needs more tha about 900MHz. I run mine at 883.200 just to save on battery. It's fun to jack it up to 1.804800GHz and get a quadrant screen capture(1), but I don't see any practical use for that much OC on a phone. As far as damage, I think you'll see erratic operation before you do any permanent damage.
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Hey Gene! Good to see you. Im afraid my phone would overheat. Whats a safe temperature for the phone? It is between 26 and 33 degress (celsius) isnt it? By the way Im using VU so my phone is running at 1.2ghz by default
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Any time you operate anything beyond its designed specifications/limits you are risking damage. This is whether it's a phone, computer, car, boat, or aircraft.
Most things are over-engineered to a certain extent, but there is not really much of a way to know whether their artificial limits are 10% below or 50% below their actual limit. It's the difference between an operating limit and a design or structural limit.
Now the good news for most computer type things is that they usually have some kind of safety built in. I remember seeing a video many years ago of a computer running without the CPU fan and heat sink. It ran for a little while, got too hot, and shut itself down. The guy put the heat sink and fan back on and it fired right up.
Short term you probably won't notice too much "damage," just a little instability if you get it up too high, but the servicable life of the components will be drastically reduced. This is probably not too big a deal on something people usually replace every 12 to 18 months.
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I came from the Aria as well; this phone doesn't react to overclocking as poorly as the Aria did, so you're pretty much good to go.
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Brad, tribestos and the rest of you. Thank you very much for the answers. You really cleared it up for me
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I'm running RCMix Bliss v1.3 w/Sense 3.5 on my Inspire. I'd like to overclock it and O/C Daemon has gotten good reviews. Where can I download it?
Tanx
I'm a dummy I found Daemon Controler!! I've installed it on my Inspire but it won't let me apply the settings. The "APPLY" button is GRAY. What is the problem??
My fiance has had her charge for a while now and she is starting to get fed up with the battery life and lag. We have gone as card as turning off the 4g but she is still unable to make it through the day on a cullen charge with very little use. What rom would be best for improved battery life while maintaining the look and feel of touchwiz?
Thanks
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I would say your best bet is eclipse or tweak stock. Not really touchwiz but very great roms.
Eclipse thread can be found here
forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1449643
Tweakstock you'll see in development section.
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I recommend using eclipse or tweakstock for a rom. But you may want to just try imnuts custom kernel first and under volt the cpu. http://rootzwiki.com/topic/137-01-30-12peanutbutta-jelly-time/ That would improve the battery. If you're still not satisfied then try a rom with the kernel.
If you phone is ROOTED. You can download "battery saver" by Antutu from the Market(free) and try out for 2 days. This may help you with your battery without too much hassle.
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If you phone is ROOTED. You can download "battery saver" by Antutu from the Market(free) and try out for 2 days. This may help you with your battery without too much hassle.
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I would recommend not doing that. I downloaded it and it broke the radio until i factory reset. The app is not made for this phone
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I would recommend not doing that. I downloaded it and it broke the radio until i factory reset. The app is not made for this phone
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What!! I'm running it right now with Tweakstock and PBJ kernel and it really really save me battery big time. I have tried to under volt, and turning off 4G, lower screen settings etc.. not help. Max I can get is 6-9hrs. After installed this, I hit 15 hrs normal use and 20hrs light usage. It controlled the CPU frequency and put my phone in very deep sleep. If I just make 1hrs of total calls and 20-30 text I can hit 20hrs easily. If I used Facebook heavily (65% screen on, about 3hrs total), I get 6-8hrs. Something is funky with your setup. During testing I uninstalled and reinstalled this app couple times and never any issue. Do me a favor while you're back to fresh stock, rooted and pop it back on see if it's working. I'm happy to provide screen shots if you don't believe me.
BTW, I have wifi,4g,gps on 24/7. While I'm in my house it automatically used wifi and when I'm out on the road it switched to 4g automatically. The samsung factory feature is working fine too.
Thanks for all the suggestions. I think I might give tweak stock a try
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The last few ROMs I tried, Tweakstock, Infinity, Gummy...all were very laggy. Didn't seem to matter what I did or how I did it. Camera was always a crap shoot on whether it would freeze up or not. I finally said the hell with it and went back to stock and then just plain rooted it. So far so good. It sucks cause I hate TW and the look of stock...but at least the phone is responsive.
Try Eclipse
You should really give Eclipse ROM a try. It is extremely smooth and fast....very responsive and the devs and community over at the site are very helpful if you run into problems. Yesterday, with light use, my phone was at 60% (15h 11m 25s on battery) at the end of the day. Best battery life I have ever gotten out of my Charge yet. Give it a try....you will not be disappointed.
Sounds more like something with the way you are flashing and/or your data restore. I would suggest that if you ever flash anything again you start from a totally clean slate
Charged up post!
I did flash from a clean slate multiple times, first few days the new builds seemed OK. After awhile it just got worse and worse. I've been on the rooted stock build for over two weeks and it still is pretty good. I'm done tweaking this phone, I'll have an upgrade option in May and then I will probably get the Nexus or wait a bit if something else worthwhile is coming soon.
I opened this thread to help shed some light on the battery issues that keep occurring (and many ppl trying to downgrade end up bricking because of that).
I'm not sure the leak was meant for all revisions, because some have problems running it properly.
This guy made the connection, and i think he might be on to something:
moofree said:
I think there may be two different AT&T MB865's in the wild- the originally release fcc id IHDT56MV1 approved in September 2011 and the IHDT56MV2 that passed through the FCC in January 2012.
This may explain the 1.2ghz clock on your phones, cause mine is definitely still 1.0ghz.
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You can check it if you remove battery, its on a sticker on the back.
You can check your default clock with setcpu(2.23 avaliable for free on xda), OR search for "cpu" in play store, "antutu cpu master" will show up, its free and reports same values as setcpu.
I'll start: im running V1 /default 1.2clock /no batter issues (I was bootlooping at 1.2 on GB, so i used 1125).
Please vote so we can get an idea whats happening with the clocks and why do people have battery problems !!
Well I am a V1 and 1GZ clock, NEVER over or under clocked the phone before with any of the ROMs... so, I am thinking might have something to do with it... Also no battery issues.
V1 1ghz. And I was overclocked on 2.3.6 to 1.2 battery on ics is great for me
Motorola lied and I'm still locked mb865
V1, 1.2. I was overclocked through Romulus 2.0 which was at 1130 if i'm not mistaken.
And I have AMAZING battery life with ICS. Much better than GB.
I've found something interesting, not sure if the guy is talking hot air though, source:
Actually the 4430 isn't overclocked in the RAZRs, it's running at 1.2GHz "Turbo" mode, an undocumented clock speed for 4430 chips tested at the factory to be stable at 1.2 GHz and run at normal temperatures. These chips are separated from the rest of the production run and sold at a premium with the 1.2 GHz "Turbo" identification.
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It really isnt documented, this is from ti.com
OMAP4430 operates at up to 1 GHz
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And the RAZR was 1.2 from day one. Considering its realease date, and the start of sampling of 4430 (ti.com says "currently sampling" as of 28 March 2011) they well had enough "Turbo certified" samples to make a phone using only those.
In short, hes story seems legit.
But why do we have two different clocks and how does the rom determine which setting its going to run on.
I dont think CPUs themselves "know" if they are certified, they are just placed in another box after the tests(being a bit vague here).
Just like some OC edition video cards; fitted with a better cooler, placed in a different retail package(with higher price).
Then again some OC video cards do get a modded bios (but not at the OEM level).
If they had a different firmware/serial numbering like desktop cpus then it would be documented and listed on the ti.com site.
But could it be that they "know" it after all? I'm not even sure these ARM SoC-s have something like a GPU bios register that tells them the voltages per states and clock rates(that they could flash while still on the test line) at all.
The reason this is interesting is that if its burned in on an individual chip level, the hw revision holds no relevance at all.
OR There could be some test after first install and it falls back to 1.0 if you get a reboot... obviously I didnt stumble into this and it wouldn't seem like a professional method from motorola at all.
Anyone running 1.0 carefully watching(and remembering, lol) the process could clear this one up though.
I'm on V1, setcpu is reading 1 ghz, I think my battery on ics seems OK, maybe drains a slight slight bit faster than before, but maybe that's my imagination!
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V1 at 1.0. Ran overclocked on 2.3.6 Roms at 1125.
1.2 bootlooped on every rom I flashed .
And I tried them all.
ICS leak is running sweet. Only interesting thing I've seen is uninstalling stock bloat, ATT crap, through Absolute System app (which is step 3 after every flash) is it says it uninstalls but it don't.
Like ATT family map or YouTube.
Says successful uninstall. Google restore is off, so no clue. Of course stopped trying after hard brick scare.
Battery is great, wifi and data fast. Only installed spare parts to set animation and window transition to fast. Originally it popped up on slow setting. That was odd.
Hit my upgrade date last week, but for some reason ATRIX is my choice. I had the original also.
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dicksteele said:
V1 at 1.0. Ran overclocked on 2.3.6 Roms at 1125.
1.2 bootlooped on every rom I flashed .
And I tried them all.
ICS leak is running sweet. Only interesting thing I've seen is uninstalling stock bloat, ATT crap, through Absolute System app (which is step 3 after every flash) is it says it uninstalls but it don't.
Like ATT family map or YouTube.
Says successful uninstall. Google restore is off, so no clue. Of course stopped trying after hard brick scare.
Battery is great, wifi and data fast. Only installed spare parts to set animation and window transition to fast. Originally it popped up on slow setting. That was odd.
Hit my upgrade date last week, but for some reason ATRIX is my choice. I had the original also.
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You know with ics, the at&t bloat can just be disabled, which is probably safer than uninstalling!
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big ach said:
You know with ics, the at&t bloat can just be disabled, which is probably safer than uninstalling!
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Yeah I agree just get a bloat freezer app, much safer.
I had a v1 and ICS was clocked @1200 for me. I have never been that high - always got unstable around 1175 on gb - but it was smooth as butter on ics.. recovery operations were so damn quick.
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My phone is V1 and I used to run at 1.335 on GB. I am now clocked at 1.0 ghz by default on ICS.
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Yeah I agree just get a bloat freezer app, much safer.
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No, I was saying that you don't even need a bloat freezer app, by default in stock ics you are able to disable (freeze) any system apps. Its a new feature in ics!
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No, I was saying that you don't even need a bloat freezer app, by default in stock ics you are able to disable (freeze) any system apps. Its a new feature in ics!
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So far, I haven't gotten a single app to show me the disable button, just force stop and uninstall.
My battery life is GARBAGE. I used to get 18 hours + on a single charge, but now I barely make it 12 hours.
V1 - 1000 Ghz - Battery Problems
Even though I didn't install the ICS leak, I wanted to chime in because I've been having battery issues for some weeks/months.
When I bought the phone the battery worked well. After the 2.3.6 update the battery lasted even longer than before. So I was happy and everything. Now a few weeks/months ago I get to the end of the night with only 20% or 10%. Sometimes it even dies! I tried everything, even replacing the battery, and nothing, still poor battery.
I think battery life is also subjective. There should be a standard as to what is good or bad. I have used my phone pretty heavily today with wifi on and im at 9 hrs and 30% remaining. This seems okay to me, but I noticed some people getting over 24 hrs on a charge so maybe half a day isn't that great.
My battery life is definitely better on ICS though. And it's also possible some of you are playing with all the fun stuff involving ICS for long periods of time which is making the battery die faster then boring GB where it stays in your pocket the whole day.
Anyway, I have a V1 and i'm at 1 ghz, ICS is noticeably faster. In GB I could run as high as 1.25ghz, and I would overclock using a script, not an overclocked ROM
I'm v1 clocked at 1.2 ics leak. I bootlooped at 1.2 on gb. At first I thought my battery wasn't right. Seemed to charge really slowly. After a couple cycles though I'm pretty happy with it. I have basically the same battery life as before.
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I was using Remus on gd.
I uninstalled all the at&t bloat with no problem.
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[email protected], no battery issues.
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has anyone else noticed that no one with a v2 has even voted? are we sure there is a v2? lol
where do i check my a2 versioN?
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where do i check my a2 versioN?
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under the battery look at the fcc number and compare to first post.