Ok, so I have a kind of a weird issue here.
First of all, I want to make it clear: I do NOT want to S-OFF my Sensation, and I do NOT want to root my Sensation.
Ok so back to the point,
A little over a month ago, I bought a brand new HTC Sensation from a local retail store here in Malta. I paid full price for it, it was sealed, and it came sim-free from factory. Also, there was absolutely no apparent branding on it - not even in the deepest area of the phone.
I was happy, until I realised that my friend's Sensation updated to 2.3.4, whilst mine is stuck on 2.3.3. I contacted HTC, and they told me the reason is that I have an O2 UK branded phone (and O2 UK hasn't released the updates yet). I told them that mine is evidently (i.e. when using it) unbranded, at the shop I was told it's unbranded, there is no branding on it or the box at all, came SIM free and was sealed. HTC told me there is nothing I could do.
I feel frustrated at having a brand new phone, bought at full price, which I cannot update.
Browsing the Internet, I saw something about RUU. Is it possible to debrand the phone using RUU without ever making it S-OFF or rooting it? I want to keep it intact!
Also, if it is possible to debrand it with RUU, will it update OTA? Or am I stuck to RUU forever? (Since my IMEI shows up as branded with O2 on HTC's servers).
Or should I forget it? Or should I go to the shop and make him change the phone since it was paid for at full price (supposedly for an unbranded phone)?
Browsing the Internet, this seems to be my current software:
RUU_Pyramid_O2_UK_1.34.206.1_Radio_10.43a.9007.00U_10.51.9007.27_M3_release_196476_signed
Thanks
*bump* anyone?
francocm said:
*bump* anyone?
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You have 3 options I guess:
i) live with it;
ii) Take it back and get a refund, "not what was promised", i.e. it turned out to be O2;
iii) S-OFF and change cid and install the latest RUU or any other custom ROM.
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Does anyone know if the HTC Desire is branded and locked on Three UK? A lot of people on Three have already updated, but someone told me that the new batches of the HTC Desire on Three are all locked and therefore can't yet be updated. I'm going to receive my upgrade on Wednesday, so does anyone know if this is the case?
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P.S. If I decide to unlock my phone and debrand it with a generic 2.2 ROM, will I have to use the Goldcard every time I want to update the software, or will I just be able to upgrade OTA like those with unlocked and debranded phones?
I bought an Australian (Telstar) HTC Mozart to use in New Zealand as the hardware specs match the NZ Telecom network. Now I an really worried that as Telecom dont sell this phone they will never "release" an update and I'll eventually be stuck with a very old version of WP7.
Anyone got an ideas if this will be a problem or if my phone will see the Telstra update and grab that?
I have a dev account so if anyone knows how a dev can load the update directly then that would be great to hear...
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they will Telstra aren't really ones to stop it though i know that they haven't released the update yet. my sister has a mozart from telstra and hasn't gotten an update yet. just be patient. i'm pretty sure they just rolled it all into one.
I also bought a phone from germany and I'm using it in Portugal with diferent carrier and I got the update! So I think you shouldn't worry
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they will Telstra aren't really ones to stop it though i know that they haven't released the update yet. my sister has a mozart from telstra and hasn't gotten an update yet. just be patient. i'm pretty sure they just rolled it all into one.
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But do you think it will update a phone running in NZ on a different network? Mt worry is that if teh carrier can block an update then that seems to suggest its tied to the phone + carrier combination. If i take a phone sold for an Australian carrier and use it in NZ then will it update?
In theory it should work as Telecom NZ provide the internet access and the phone is still branded Telstra. It still shows their NextG branding at start up etc but what if it doesn't?
I also cant think why developers are not allowed to run the update using dev only tools. How are we supposed to test our applications?
Seems a little up in the air. As for teh update I am patient and happy to wait but I really think MS need to explain stuff way more. Lots of people are complaining and that is bad for the image as a whole. A few more blog post from MS could really diffuse that.
Thanks for the feedback.
vbgeezer said:
But do you think it will update a phone running in NZ on a different network? Mt worry is that if teh carrier can block an update then that seems to suggest its tied to the phone + carrier combination. If i take a phone sold for an Australian carrier and use it in NZ then will it update?
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Yes. It's tied to the device+branding, so as long as Telstra releases the update you will get it.
The alternative is to unbrand your phone by flashing a non-branded (i.e. generic) ROM and you'll get the update as soon as MS seems fit rather than being dependant on any carriers.
Hello All,
is Vodafone Sensation 'Locked to Vodafone Sim card only? anyone can test it? thank you.
Yep is it, i was in Vodafone shop today asking about it. They said it's locked but with pay monthly customers, they can unlock it...the girl said she had done it a few times with android devices...they just need a code she said.
Barff1984 said:
Yep is it, i was in Vodafone shop today asking about it. They said it's locked but with pay monthly customers, they can unlock it...the girl said she had done it a few times with android devices...they just need a code she said.
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im sure i read that someone here has put a tmo sim in and it worked
cant find the post right now but would suggest its not simlocked to vf
cqms13 said:
im sure i read that someone here has put a tmo sim in and it worked
cant find the post right now but would suggest its not simlocked to vf
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fair enough
I'm just going by what the vodafone girl told me. I had a play with one of the phones in the shop, she did a little personal unboxing for me haha
Sense didn't lag at all. Had Vodafone branding on turn on and off and had those crappy voda apps.
My 3 sim works, so must be unlocked.
Are they selling this PAYG as I was debating using my monthly Vodafone SIM in it?
yes it is..
im sure i read that someone here has put a tmo sim in and it worked
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That was me!
My HTC Sensation from Vodafone was unlocked straight out of the box.
asdfliuchen said:
yes it is..
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Thanks. Actually a bit surprised at that because normally they keep such new flagship devices for contract only. That's why I hadn't really looked for it on PAYG.
Thank-you all.
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is there any way by telling whether the phone is branded or not from preferably the box? ie, so i can go to vodashop and get one on contract, but checking the box labels first to make sure i get one unbranded...the one i had a play with in the shop today had the voda logo on start up and kinds of put me off as i'd like quick updates as-and-when they release...instead of waiting for voda
there is nothing showed 'vodafone things' on box, and nothing on outside of phone.
there is vodafone flash when turn on this phone, and several vodafone software already installed, and not allowed to uninstall (just several times, hope I didn't operate wrongly).
hope this helps.
everyday48 said:
there is nothing showed 'vodafone things' on box, and nothing on outside of phone.
there is vodafone flash when turn on this phone, and several vodafone software already installed, and not allowed to uninstall (just several times, hope I didn't operate wrongly).
hope this helps.
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perhaps there are different codes or something on the box.
I really hope there's a quick way without having to physically ask the assistant to turn each phone on in the hope they have an unbranded one. guessing it'll just be one of the 2 though....a batch of branded or unbranded...can't imagine it's a mix
Barff1984 said:
is there any way by telling whether the phone is branded or not from preferably the box? ie, so i can go to vodashop and get one on contract, but checking the box labels first to make sure i get one unbranded...the one i had a play with in the shop today had the voda logo on start up and kinds of put me off as i'd like quick updates as-and-when they release...instead of waiting for voda
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As always if you want the quickest updates you have to go the SIM free route and I cannot see the Sensation being any different.
I yesterday moved from O2 to Vodafone and got the Sensation on a monthly contract. It is UNLOCKED and I still use my O2 SIM with it, waiting for my O2 number to port to Vodafone. As menntioned above. the Vodafone logo shows when power is turned on. I assume this means that it is branded and we will need to wait for software updates from Vodafone ruther than the general update.
It is unlocked and branded - but minimally.
Apart from the fugly Vodafone boot screen there were at least 3 Vodafone apps installed initially - the first one is visible as soon as you turn the phone on as it puts a nasty red icon in the notification bar!
First thing I did was load the "Vodafone 360 updates" program and disable automatic updates. I then ran the one outstanding update it was showing. The update downloaded and ran and then the other handful of Vodafone apps suddenly self-destructed! They all disappeared from the application drawer (for example there was initially a ****ty Vodafone Shop and Vodafone Music app). Now only the updates program is left and is set to be invisible.
I guess the Vodafone crapware was so crap that the self-update deleted all the apps! Excellent
Oh and I forgot to say. My last phone was the HTC Legend. When the froyo update came out for Legend, Vodafone had bribed HTC to release it on Vodafone branded handsets first and to hold back to unbranded handsets for a month's exclusivity! I suppose another benefit to branded handsets is that they should be correctly configured for the network - I never did manage to get O2 MMS working on my unbranded Legend.
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Thanks. Actually a bit surprised at that because normally they keep such new flagship devices for contract only. That's why I hadn't really looked for it on PAYG.
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They sell it PAYG or I misunderstood it?
Because I really want to buy it without any contract o-o
DSensation said:
They sell it PAYG or I misunderstood it?
Because I really want to buy it without any contract o-o
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On the Vodafone eforum a Voda mod stated that it will be contact only to start with, at a guess while they have it exclusive. Also all Vodafone contract phones are sent out unlocked apart from iphones and fully exclusive phones like the first blackberry storm was.
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The branding is VERY minimal on this. Quick Vodafone icon on boot up and shutdown, but it doesn't stay for long thankfully
how much does it cost at vodafone? and is it available on all of their shops?
I have an HTC Sensation on Orange, but bought via dialaphone. I wonder if it is classified as branded or unbranded.
Is there any way to tell from serial nu,ber or software version?
It used to be possible with the first Desire.
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Massi
I got the XE through dial a phone on orange, it is unbranded, check for logos on the case or on the phones software (IE in the menu or anything)
I doubt yours is branded.
Hi, I'd be interested in this too. I bought mine instore at a high street T Mobile shop. There seems to be no form of branding at all. I've just got this after coming from a Desire HD (loved it, just fancied a change) and am used to doing updates via the RUU rather than waiting for operator OTA stuff. Just need to ensure that when available, I D/L the right one. Mine is an XE version and as it's still all shiny & new, I don't want to go down the rooting road just yet!
Cheers for any help. (Oh aye, is it just me or does the screen seem narrower than my Desire HD screen despite every tech' doc' telling me it isn't)?
ghislandi said:
I have an HTC Sensation on Orange, but bought via dialaphone. I wonder if it is classified as branded or unbranded.
Is there any way to tell from serial nu,ber or software version?
It used to be possible with the first Desire.
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Massi
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I bought mine too from Dial a Phone.
I know that it's factory unlocked because I popped a T-Mobile SIM in it and it worked fine.
Not sure about branding though, my guess is that it's unbranded.
ghislandi said:
I have an HTC Sensation on Orange, but bought
Is there any way to tell from serial nu,ber or software version?
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check your cid, steps are explained in the development sub-forum
Branded = Carrier Logos on the device itself, Carrier Apps, Carrier ROM
Unbranded = No Logos, Stock ROM, Stock Apps
Try putting a different providers sim card in, if it works its unbranded, if not, branded
Generally orange phones are unbranded in unlocked.
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First off, thank you for making a brilliant forum! Now that I dont get any further by searching for information I need som help from you guys.
Thing is: I have two sensations. Both are s-off, rooted, superCID and have the latest coindroid installed. Both are originally tmobile phones which were bought unlocked some while ago. They have both been used successfully in europe until now that im in the US.
For various reasons i have three simcards for these phones. And in one of them t-mobile doesnt seem to work at all. Neither before software modifications or after. The other phone with similar mods have no problems.
The other simcards are a norwegian one and another pay-as-you-go simcard which has been used since t-mobile doesnt work.
Since both phones are rooted and s-off I guess there is a setting somewhere. Where is this particular setting? Anybody that could come a newbie to the rescue?
Thanks!
no setting if phone dont ask for a unlock code or has been unlocked i am going to say bad/banned imi number call t-Mobile and ask them if your phone is black listed
The phone is blocked by tmobile it appears. Bought it off amazon nine months ago. The phone was sold as new and "unlocked" back then and w/o warranty, but not as stolen phone. Im angry right now.
Neither Tmobile or HTC are very helpful on the phone. Costumer service at Tmobile keeps failing to put me over to anyone who can help.
Any tips on how to proceed further? Showing up at one of their shops and stay there until someone is able to help?
Since the phone is without warranty its very tempting to do illegal stuff to it right now.
Suppehue said:
Since the phone is without warranty its very tempting to do illegal stuff to it right now.
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Like what free apps or fake call 911 lol not much you can do that's illegal
Only things you can do try att sim but may not work
resell on eBay for parts should get most of your money back or keep calling T-Mobile there the only ones who can if they will
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