I bought an Australian (Telstar) HTC Mozart to use in New Zealand as the hardware specs match the NZ Telecom network. Now I an really worried that as Telecom dont sell this phone they will never "release" an update and I'll eventually be stuck with a very old version of WP7.
Anyone got an ideas if this will be a problem or if my phone will see the Telstra update and grab that?
I have a dev account so if anyone knows how a dev can load the update directly then that would be great to hear...
Thanks
they will Telstra aren't really ones to stop it though i know that they haven't released the update yet. my sister has a mozart from telstra and hasn't gotten an update yet. just be patient. i'm pretty sure they just rolled it all into one.
I also bought a phone from germany and I'm using it in Portugal with diferent carrier and I got the update! So I think you shouldn't worry
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they will Telstra aren't really ones to stop it though i know that they haven't released the update yet. my sister has a mozart from telstra and hasn't gotten an update yet. just be patient. i'm pretty sure they just rolled it all into one.
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But do you think it will update a phone running in NZ on a different network? Mt worry is that if teh carrier can block an update then that seems to suggest its tied to the phone + carrier combination. If i take a phone sold for an Australian carrier and use it in NZ then will it update?
In theory it should work as Telecom NZ provide the internet access and the phone is still branded Telstra. It still shows their NextG branding at start up etc but what if it doesn't?
I also cant think why developers are not allowed to run the update using dev only tools. How are we supposed to test our applications?
Seems a little up in the air. As for teh update I am patient and happy to wait but I really think MS need to explain stuff way more. Lots of people are complaining and that is bad for the image as a whole. A few more blog post from MS could really diffuse that.
Thanks for the feedback.
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But do you think it will update a phone running in NZ on a different network? Mt worry is that if teh carrier can block an update then that seems to suggest its tied to the phone + carrier combination. If i take a phone sold for an Australian carrier and use it in NZ then will it update?
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Yes. It's tied to the device+branding, so as long as Telstra releases the update you will get it.
The alternative is to unbrand your phone by flashing a non-branded (i.e. generic) ROM and you'll get the update as soon as MS seems fit rather than being dependant on any carriers.
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ive heard that unlocked devices that is without the at&t sim or tmobile sim donot recieve updates as a zune pass or smthn is required? i hav sources to buy a samsung focus and this has really got me confued
danyal hero said:
ive heard that unlocked devices that is without the at&t sim or tmobile sim donot recieve updates as a zune pass or smthn is required? i hav sources to buy a samsung focus and this has really got me confued
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Nah...not likely. The updates, if they ever do finally come, will be associated with the firmware for the specific carrier.
danyal hero said:
ive heard that unlocked devices that is without the at&t sim or tmobile sim donot recieve updates as a zune pass or smthn is required? i hav sources to buy a samsung focus and this has really got me confued
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Nothing is required to receive an update apart from having the Zune software on your pc and in the case of the useless carriers, their approval to MS to release the update. Unlocked devices should get updates with no restrictions or delays, barring technical issues.
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Nothing is required to receive an update apart from having the Zune software on your pc and in the case of the useless carriers, their approval to MS to release the update. Unlocked devices should get updates with no restrictions or delays, barring technical issues.
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i got mine unlock, still no updates. =(
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i got mine unlock, still no updates. =(
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That would be those technical issues then. Or just the result of a phased rollout, but you do not need to have a Zune pass or anything else, as the OP asked. And if you unlocked it yourself, are you referring to a SIM unlock but its still a branded device, if so the original carrier would still control when the update is released. Unbranding with a stock firmware would be the way to revert it complete "unlocked" state with no carrier ties but even then, its no guarantee of getting the update sooner.
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That would be those technical issues then. Or just the result of a phased rollout, but you do not need to have a Zune pass or anything else, as the OP asked. And if you unlocked it yourself, are you referring to a SIM unlock but its still a branded device, if so the original carrier would still control when the update is released. Unbranding with a stock firmware would be the way to revert it complete "unlocked" state with no carrier ties but even then, its no guarantee of getting the update sooner.
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i got the unbranded htc hd7, some of my friends got the update and some of my friends dont.. we are all using an unlock, unbranded htc hd7
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i got the unbranded htc hd7, some of my friends got the update and some of my friends dont.. we are all using an unlock, unbranded htc hd7
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Then obviously its just down to being a phased rollout, based on whatever criteria MS is using.
There's only 7 days until Nodo gets released (theoretically), at this rate I'll not get this update before Nodo!
I hope Nodo doesn't get as delayed as this update did. Still nothing for me - UK O2 HD7 SIM-unlocked.
i got an email from HTC as i am using an unbranded HD7 and still to get the pre update, they told me to just wait for the march update...
they will not come out and say that MS have halt the 21st feb update or it was pushed out to only part of the WP7 owners....
so now i have to wait for march 8th or so and see what happens...
Just remember that March 8th was just a rumour, more than likely it wont be available then.
Hello All,
is Vodafone Sensation 'Locked to Vodafone Sim card only? anyone can test it? thank you.
Yep is it, i was in Vodafone shop today asking about it. They said it's locked but with pay monthly customers, they can unlock it...the girl said she had done it a few times with android devices...they just need a code she said.
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Yep is it, i was in Vodafone shop today asking about it. They said it's locked but with pay monthly customers, they can unlock it...the girl said she had done it a few times with android devices...they just need a code she said.
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im sure i read that someone here has put a tmo sim in and it worked
cant find the post right now but would suggest its not simlocked to vf
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im sure i read that someone here has put a tmo sim in and it worked
cant find the post right now but would suggest its not simlocked to vf
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fair enough
I'm just going by what the vodafone girl told me. I had a play with one of the phones in the shop, she did a little personal unboxing for me haha
Sense didn't lag at all. Had Vodafone branding on turn on and off and had those crappy voda apps.
My 3 sim works, so must be unlocked.
Are they selling this PAYG as I was debating using my monthly Vodafone SIM in it?
yes it is..
im sure i read that someone here has put a tmo sim in and it worked
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That was me!
My HTC Sensation from Vodafone was unlocked straight out of the box.
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yes it is..
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Thanks. Actually a bit surprised at that because normally they keep such new flagship devices for contract only. That's why I hadn't really looked for it on PAYG.
Thank-you all.
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is there any way by telling whether the phone is branded or not from preferably the box? ie, so i can go to vodashop and get one on contract, but checking the box labels first to make sure i get one unbranded...the one i had a play with in the shop today had the voda logo on start up and kinds of put me off as i'd like quick updates as-and-when they release...instead of waiting for voda
there is nothing showed 'vodafone things' on box, and nothing on outside of phone.
there is vodafone flash when turn on this phone, and several vodafone software already installed, and not allowed to uninstall (just several times, hope I didn't operate wrongly).
hope this helps.
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there is nothing showed 'vodafone things' on box, and nothing on outside of phone.
there is vodafone flash when turn on this phone, and several vodafone software already installed, and not allowed to uninstall (just several times, hope I didn't operate wrongly).
hope this helps.
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perhaps there are different codes or something on the box.
I really hope there's a quick way without having to physically ask the assistant to turn each phone on in the hope they have an unbranded one. guessing it'll just be one of the 2 though....a batch of branded or unbranded...can't imagine it's a mix
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is there any way by telling whether the phone is branded or not from preferably the box? ie, so i can go to vodashop and get one on contract, but checking the box labels first to make sure i get one unbranded...the one i had a play with in the shop today had the voda logo on start up and kinds of put me off as i'd like quick updates as-and-when they release...instead of waiting for voda
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As always if you want the quickest updates you have to go the SIM free route and I cannot see the Sensation being any different.
I yesterday moved from O2 to Vodafone and got the Sensation on a monthly contract. It is UNLOCKED and I still use my O2 SIM with it, waiting for my O2 number to port to Vodafone. As menntioned above. the Vodafone logo shows when power is turned on. I assume this means that it is branded and we will need to wait for software updates from Vodafone ruther than the general update.
It is unlocked and branded - but minimally.
Apart from the fugly Vodafone boot screen there were at least 3 Vodafone apps installed initially - the first one is visible as soon as you turn the phone on as it puts a nasty red icon in the notification bar!
First thing I did was load the "Vodafone 360 updates" program and disable automatic updates. I then ran the one outstanding update it was showing. The update downloaded and ran and then the other handful of Vodafone apps suddenly self-destructed! They all disappeared from the application drawer (for example there was initially a ****ty Vodafone Shop and Vodafone Music app). Now only the updates program is left and is set to be invisible.
I guess the Vodafone crapware was so crap that the self-update deleted all the apps! Excellent
Oh and I forgot to say. My last phone was the HTC Legend. When the froyo update came out for Legend, Vodafone had bribed HTC to release it on Vodafone branded handsets first and to hold back to unbranded handsets for a month's exclusivity! I suppose another benefit to branded handsets is that they should be correctly configured for the network - I never did manage to get O2 MMS working on my unbranded Legend.
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Thanks. Actually a bit surprised at that because normally they keep such new flagship devices for contract only. That's why I hadn't really looked for it on PAYG.
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They sell it PAYG or I misunderstood it?
Because I really want to buy it without any contract o-o
DSensation said:
They sell it PAYG or I misunderstood it?
Because I really want to buy it without any contract o-o
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On the Vodafone eforum a Voda mod stated that it will be contact only to start with, at a guess while they have it exclusive. Also all Vodafone contract phones are sent out unlocked apart from iphones and fully exclusive phones like the first blackberry storm was.
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The branding is VERY minimal on this. Quick Vodafone icon on boot up and shutdown, but it doesn't stay for long thankfully
how much does it cost at vodafone? and is it available on all of their shops?
Hi, I currently have a Orange UK htc 8X running the stock rom but I was able to install the first official OTA update from MS. Now I thought this first update would only be for the international unbranded phones. So my question is this. Does this mean that i am not on a locked Orange UK phone but that i actually have a unbranded international handset. Not that it makes that much difference at the moment, but for future custom roms it might. Many thanks in advance for any info.
I'm on Vodafone UK and got the update this morning. I think this update was pushed out by MS/HTC themselves so all handsets got it as there were general fixes and extras that are not reliant on any carrier specific restrictions.
On windows phone 8 MS is bypassing the carriers for updates. That said I have a Vodafone 8X and it came unbranded and sim unlocked.
Does anyone have any views on battery life since the update? When I tested the 8X I found it had a terrible idle drain issue leading to poor battery life and I am wondering if this is fixed?
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On windows phone 8 MS is bypassing the carriers for updates. That said I have a Vodafone 8X and it came unbranded and sim unlocked.
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I have a Verizon 8X and didn't get the update. The phone did came sim unlocked.
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On windows phone 8 MS is bypassing the carriers for updates.
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No, it is not. MS can't do that for many reasons. There is a so-called enthousiast program mentioned last summer that will allow users/enthousiasts to register their phones to receive early updates directly from MS. But that program hasn't kicked off yet and no one at MS is talking about it at this time. So branded WP8 phones still have to wait.
I have o2 UK branded 8X no update yet
No update yet with Bell, probably going to be updated at the same time as AT&T.
anyone know what the update actually does?
More stable than before (didn't really had the reboot problem personally) and persistent Wifi (looking forward to this!). That's pretty much what I know of.
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More stable than before (didn't really had the reboot problem personally) and persistent Wifi (looking forward to this!). That's pretty much what I know of.
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Really hoping they fix the bluetooth issues with the phone going into privacy mode, or not being able to pair at all..
Tmobile USA 8X.
No updates yet.
A friend of mine is flying over beginning of August and would be able to bring back a phone for me, does anyone know if the AT&T Lumia 1020 will work in Europe? Or does it have any drawbacks?
AT&T branded phones will be SIM-locked and won't work on other networks. You'll need to get it SIM-unlocked. It may be possible to do this when buying from AT&T, but if you can get it elsewhere I would do so. Expansys (online) is a great supplier of SIM-unlocked international phones...
was hoping to get it earlier
Too bad navifirmn is down or I could have flashed a Europe ROM to it...
But good to know the HW is the same!
thanks!
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was hoping to get it earlier
Too bad navifirmn is down or I could have flashed a Europe ROM to it...
But good to know the HW is the same!
thanks!
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I just use the CareSuite External mod for NCS. I downloaded my ffu from Data Package Manager 2012.18.0 (the latest requires a login.) If someone starts posting the product codes for it then it should be easy to get. The product codes can be swapped between other 1020s, but the different versions are limited to single product codes. I'm still trying to piece this whole ffu swapping thing together on my tutorial.
At least with the Lumia 920 the US variant was a different hardware model than the EU variant (RM-820 vs RM-821). You could not simply flash the other one. With respects to supported bands the 1020 should work in european 2G and 3G networks but LTE bands likely won't be compatible.
I dont see a reason why your phone cant work. Yes it will work as long as you unlock it.
already solved, got an EU model
FYI, according to Nokia Hotline the guarantee for US models doesn't count in EU, phone would need to send it in to USA for repair.
Hi all, looked around and even google'd but didn't find what I am looking for.
My question: With my unlocked AT&T phone on t-mobile, will I get the 8.1 update? If not how does one get it?
thanks
-brad
PS: for those that are interested, my at&t 1020 works just great on t-mobiles network here in orlando area.
bradley_e_smith said:
Hi all, looked around and even google'd but didn't find what I am looking for.
My question: With my unlocked AT&T phone on t-mobile, will I get the 8.1 update? If not how does one get it?
thanks
-brad
PS: for those that are interested, my at&t 1020 works just great on t-mobiles network here in orlando area.
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I have the Att 1020. I got it updated via Dev unlock it's easy and ur getting the same updates except its directly from MSFT. Also on tmobile here. Now if only I can have show box I can put down my xperia Z2
bradley_e_smith said:
Hi all, looked around and even google'd but didn't find what I am looking for.
My question: With my unlocked AT&T phone on t-mobile, will I get the 8.1 update? If not how does one get it?
thanks
-brad
PS: for those that are interested, my at&t 1020 works just great on t-mobiles network here in orlando area.
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Well like the other guy said, you can get WP 8.1 with the Preview for Developers app, but you won't get the Lumia Cyan firmware update which makes the camera noticeably better. In fact, if you install the dev preview, as it stands right now you won't get Cyan even when it comes out.
If you have the AT&T model and then unlocked it you will get the update when it is shipped to AT&T 1020s. In fact, I have the same problem. I unlocked my 1020 and put a T-Mobile SIM in there because I thought that it wouldn't say AT&T anymore. I thought I would be able to change my location to Canada and get Cyan because they have it in Canada already. It didn't work because it still says AT&T; however, we will get it when AT&T ships the update.
Thanks so much guys!
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Well like the other guy said, you can get WP 8.1 with the Preview for Developers app, but you won't get the Lumia Cyan firmware update which makes the camera noticeably better. In fact, if you install the dev preview, as it stands right now you won't get Cyan even when it comes out.
If you have the AT&T model and then unlocked it you will get the update when it is shipped to AT&T 1020s. In fact, I have the same problem. I unlocked my 1020 and put a T-Mobile SIM in there because I thought that it wouldn't say AT&T anymore. I thought I would be able to change my location to Canada and get Cyan because they have it in Canada already. It didn't work because it still says AT&T; however, we will get it when AT&T ships the update.
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