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Hey all,
Nice forum here, plenty of good information. I've got a basic question. I've searched (here and google) and I'm pretty sure I get it but I just want to confirm before I make any purchase. I want the HTC Kaiser but the price difference between that and the Tilt is about $500 (I plan to upgrade contract anyway). That's just too much to justify for the same exact device on a college student's salary. I do need it to be unlocked though. So, if I understand correctly, it is possible to fully unlock this phone like this:
- For the SIM unlock call ATT and get them to give you the unlock code. Since I've been a customer for 5 years or so that shouldn't be a problem.
- For the CID unlock, run the HardSPL found on the sticky in this forum and then flash with a standard HTC ROM.
That's it, the phone is fully unlocked then, right? It won't be locked again, it won't be killed over-the air, etc... Again, I'm really sorry if this is repeated information, I just really want to be sure before I buy anything. Thanks for understanding.
shellcode said:
Hey all,
Nice forum here, plenty of good information. I've got a basic question. I've searched (here and google) and I'm pretty sure I get it but I just want to confirm before I make any purchase. I want the HTC Kaiser but the price difference between that and the Tilt is about $500 (I plan to upgrade contract anyway). That's just too much to justify for the same exact device on a college student's salary. I do need it to be unlocked though. So, if I understand correctly, it is possible to fully unlock this phone like this:
- For the SIM unlock call ATT and get them to give you the unlock code. Since I've been a customer for 5 years or so that shouldn't be a problem.
- For the CID unlock, run the HardSPL found on the sticky in this forum and then flash with a standard HTC ROM.
That's it, the phone is fully unlocked then, right? It won't be locked again, it won't be killed over-the air, etc... Again, I'm really sorry if this is repeated information, I just really want to be sure before I buy anything. Thanks for understanding.
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1. If you're an AT&T customer, you won't need to SIM unlock the phone with the Tilt. But if you want to switch over to T-Mobile, then yeah, you can try calling AT&T and ask for them to for the unlock code.
2. Yep.
Hope that clarifies things.
shellcode said:
Hey all,
- For the SIM unlock call ATT and get them to give you the unlock code. Since I've been a customer for 5 years or so that shouldn't be a problem.
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Did you give this a try? What did they say?
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Did you give this a try? What did they say?
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I have done it and I am not even an ATT customer. Told them I bought the phone and I am going to England and need my international SIM to work. The guy immediately gave me an unlock code
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I have done it and I am not even an ATT customer. Told them I bought the phone and I am going to England and need my international SIM to work. The guy immediately gave me an unlock code
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I can verify that, I also unlocked tht Tilt, and am a T-Mo customer, ofcourse my first carrier was ATT, then Tmo, then Cingular and now am on Tmo for the past 2 years, so my info was already there.
Hey guys,
I just got an AT&T Tilt from ebay and getting shipped to Australia - can i call up AT&T and ask for it to be unlocked or is there a SIM unlock program that can do the job?
OK, I got the phone. Two more questions before I do this:
I downloaded RUU_Kaiser_HTC_WWE_1.56.405.5_radio_sign_22.45.88.07_1.27.12.11_Ship.exe. Once I run HardSPL, do I just transfer this file to the phone and run it and it will flash to stock HTC firmware or is there something else? I was a bit confused by all the other ROM's and files on this forum.
Also, before calling AT&T, do I need to have a SIM from another provider to do the SIM unlock or no?
no dont transfer the file to your phone. download it to your computer, establish an activesync connection, and then run it from your computer. make sure you follow the instructions in the sticky. good luck, the htc rom is much cleaner and quicker than the atnt rom
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Also, before calling AT&T, do I need to have a SIM from another provider to do the SIM unlock or no?
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You don't need another sim until you get the unlock code from AT&T. Once you do, put the other sim in your phone, boot it up, and enter the unlock code. It will say passcode accepted and your phone will be unlocked
Just got off the phone with AT&T (1-(916)-843-4685). I told them I was taking a trip to England, gave the IMEI and got my unlock code. So now I've got a fully unlocked phone and saved $500. Very nice.
shellcode said:
Just got off the phone with AT&T (1-(916)-843-4685). I told them I was taking a trip to England, gave the IMEI and got my unlock code. So now I've got a fully unlocked phone and saved $500. Very nice.
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Exactly how I got mine unlocked. Free is good
Just a question, Did you get your unlock code while still on the phone?
In other words, they gave you the code right away!
or you have to way a couple a days to get the code?
I did the same one time with TMO and have to way a week to get the code.
I just called ATT and they got all my info and told me that htc will email me the info in a week.
They gave it to me while I was on the phone. HTC has nothing to do with AT&T's unlock codes. Did you call the 916 number posted above? Call again and get a different rep who knows what they're doing!
I've tried calling that ATT number multiple times with no luck.
I am a TMobile customer and have never had ATT. The first question they ask is for my account information. I tried calling back 5 times and spoke to 5 different people and they all want my account info.
If anyone here can do it I would greatly appreciate and i'd even paypal you some money for being able to pull it off.
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I've tried calling that ATT number multiple times with no luck.
I am a TMobile customer and have never had ATT. The first question they ask is for my account information. I tried calling back 5 times and spoke to 5 different people and they all want my account info.
If anyone here can do it I would greatly appreciate and i'd even paypal you some money for being able to pull it off.
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that seems like it'll work. have someone thats been on at&t for a while to call them up and give them your imei. What I'm not sure is if they have records of only at&t imei and they'll know if you have tmo imei.
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Thanks, I called the number and told them that I am going over seas, got mine unlocked. Will take a few days after AT&T puts in a request to HTC for the unlock code. They'll send it via email.
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I am a TMobile customer and have never had ATT. The first question they ask is for my account information. I tried calling back 5 times and spoke to 5 different people and they all want my account info.
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Drop $20 on a GoPhone and give 'em that number - YMMV of course, but it's a cheap fix if it works - as it did for me...
HTH,
Richard
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Exactly how I got mine unlocked. Free is good
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call today and they bluff me with the "if i give you the code the phone will never work again on at&t network and will became useful" i insist that i do these many times without any proble and they told me that will contact me in 3 to 5 days with the requested codes because they have to request it from someone ( i don't now who) but they will give it to me
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call today and they bluff me with the "if i give you the code the phone will never work again on at&t network and will became useful"
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Mine works just fine after unlocking. They are giving you a line of BS.
hackmania said:
call today and they bluff me with the "if i give you the code the phone will never work again on at&t network and will became useful" i insist that i do these many times without any proble and they told me that will contact me in 3 to 5 days with the requested codes because they have to request it from someone ( i don't now who) but they will give it to me
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Yeah, it took almost a month to get my V551 unlocked - between "misrouted" support requests, improper account information, and whatever real delays exist in getting codes from Motorola.
It's quite interesting that most Tilt people (myself included) have gotten codes immediately vs having them e-mailed - as had been ALL my previous experience.
Richard
Hello All,
is Vodafone Sensation 'Locked to Vodafone Sim card only? anyone can test it? thank you.
Yep is it, i was in Vodafone shop today asking about it. They said it's locked but with pay monthly customers, they can unlock it...the girl said she had done it a few times with android devices...they just need a code she said.
Barff1984 said:
Yep is it, i was in Vodafone shop today asking about it. They said it's locked but with pay monthly customers, they can unlock it...the girl said she had done it a few times with android devices...they just need a code she said.
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im sure i read that someone here has put a tmo sim in and it worked
cant find the post right now but would suggest its not simlocked to vf
cqms13 said:
im sure i read that someone here has put a tmo sim in and it worked
cant find the post right now but would suggest its not simlocked to vf
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fair enough
I'm just going by what the vodafone girl told me. I had a play with one of the phones in the shop, she did a little personal unboxing for me haha
Sense didn't lag at all. Had Vodafone branding on turn on and off and had those crappy voda apps.
My 3 sim works, so must be unlocked.
Are they selling this PAYG as I was debating using my monthly Vodafone SIM in it?
yes it is..
im sure i read that someone here has put a tmo sim in and it worked
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That was me!
My HTC Sensation from Vodafone was unlocked straight out of the box.
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yes it is..
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Thanks. Actually a bit surprised at that because normally they keep such new flagship devices for contract only. That's why I hadn't really looked for it on PAYG.
Thank-you all.
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is there any way by telling whether the phone is branded or not from preferably the box? ie, so i can go to vodashop and get one on contract, but checking the box labels first to make sure i get one unbranded...the one i had a play with in the shop today had the voda logo on start up and kinds of put me off as i'd like quick updates as-and-when they release...instead of waiting for voda
there is nothing showed 'vodafone things' on box, and nothing on outside of phone.
there is vodafone flash when turn on this phone, and several vodafone software already installed, and not allowed to uninstall (just several times, hope I didn't operate wrongly).
hope this helps.
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there is nothing showed 'vodafone things' on box, and nothing on outside of phone.
there is vodafone flash when turn on this phone, and several vodafone software already installed, and not allowed to uninstall (just several times, hope I didn't operate wrongly).
hope this helps.
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perhaps there are different codes or something on the box.
I really hope there's a quick way without having to physically ask the assistant to turn each phone on in the hope they have an unbranded one. guessing it'll just be one of the 2 though....a batch of branded or unbranded...can't imagine it's a mix
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is there any way by telling whether the phone is branded or not from preferably the box? ie, so i can go to vodashop and get one on contract, but checking the box labels first to make sure i get one unbranded...the one i had a play with in the shop today had the voda logo on start up and kinds of put me off as i'd like quick updates as-and-when they release...instead of waiting for voda
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As always if you want the quickest updates you have to go the SIM free route and I cannot see the Sensation being any different.
I yesterday moved from O2 to Vodafone and got the Sensation on a monthly contract. It is UNLOCKED and I still use my O2 SIM with it, waiting for my O2 number to port to Vodafone. As menntioned above. the Vodafone logo shows when power is turned on. I assume this means that it is branded and we will need to wait for software updates from Vodafone ruther than the general update.
It is unlocked and branded - but minimally.
Apart from the fugly Vodafone boot screen there were at least 3 Vodafone apps installed initially - the first one is visible as soon as you turn the phone on as it puts a nasty red icon in the notification bar!
First thing I did was load the "Vodafone 360 updates" program and disable automatic updates. I then ran the one outstanding update it was showing. The update downloaded and ran and then the other handful of Vodafone apps suddenly self-destructed! They all disappeared from the application drawer (for example there was initially a ****ty Vodafone Shop and Vodafone Music app). Now only the updates program is left and is set to be invisible.
I guess the Vodafone crapware was so crap that the self-update deleted all the apps! Excellent
Oh and I forgot to say. My last phone was the HTC Legend. When the froyo update came out for Legend, Vodafone had bribed HTC to release it on Vodafone branded handsets first and to hold back to unbranded handsets for a month's exclusivity! I suppose another benefit to branded handsets is that they should be correctly configured for the network - I never did manage to get O2 MMS working on my unbranded Legend.
Super Chimp said:
Thanks. Actually a bit surprised at that because normally they keep such new flagship devices for contract only. That's why I hadn't really looked for it on PAYG.
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They sell it PAYG or I misunderstood it?
Because I really want to buy it without any contract o-o
DSensation said:
They sell it PAYG or I misunderstood it?
Because I really want to buy it without any contract o-o
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On the Vodafone eforum a Voda mod stated that it will be contact only to start with, at a guess while they have it exclusive. Also all Vodafone contract phones are sent out unlocked apart from iphones and fully exclusive phones like the first blackberry storm was.
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The branding is VERY minimal on this. Quick Vodafone icon on boot up and shutdown, but it doesn't stay for long thankfully
how much does it cost at vodafone? and is it available on all of their shops?
Hi All.
I visited my local Carphone Warehouse shop in Dorchester yesterday where I was looking to buy the Samsung Galaxy Ace mobile phone. On all networks it was £199.99 except for ThreeUK which was only £120.00.
Having previously unlocked, rooted and custom ROM'd the Ace (thanks to XDA dev's) I thought I'd buy it on ThreeUK and put it on Vodafone when I got to the computer.
I asked the cocky know-it-all chump for the phone and got out my cash and he started ranting something about was I upgrading a PAYG mobile or did I need to transfer my number to the new SIM card.
I told him I did not need the SIM card as I had my own already but he informed me that the SIM the phone was sold with would be the only SIM that would work in it and using another SIM would IMEI block the phone.
Now I have never heard of this before and I regulary read stuff on XDA and I have seen any mention of it here either.
I thought he was just making sure he couldn't blag another 80 quid out of me so I decided to be the know-it-all chump and told him I didn't care as I was unlocking it and installing a different ROM anyway.
He told me that the PAYG SIM was tied to the IMEI number and I qoute, "as the networks are loosing too much money with unlocked phones".
I decided not to buy the phone as £120 was alot of money to lose if he was right and I could hardly go back with it blocked after this conversation.
Personally while a good idea, at least in principle from the networks point of view I can see too many negative issues arising from doing this.
Can anyone clarify any of this?
Can't believe that a different sim card could block the phone after it has been rooted?
Complete Bull. Impossible to do this as the network do not know if the handset you are using is unlocked or not. Also if you had your voda sim in the handset only voda would be able to nlock your phone as only they would see the IMEI being used. 3 would not know you are using another phone. Also the network only owns your sim not your phone. As a consumer it is up to you what you do with the phone. Hope this helps.
Not sure about those carriers but ATT has been locking phones to one sim card when activated. Only on prepaid at the moment but it shows it can be and is being done.
Utter bull****. As mentioned above if you are buying a sim free phone then you are buying a a free phone and you can do whatever you want with the lgone
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thre3aces said:
Utter bull****. As mentioned above if you are buying a sim free phone then you are buying a a free phone and you can do whatever you want with the lgone
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Think what you will. Try it for yourself and see. The carriers here have been trying to think of a way to only allow phones they say to work on the network. Take verzion and sprint. They can refuse to activate any phone that is not in their system. ATT is working on a way to do this also.
thre3aces said:
Utter bull****. As mentioned above if you are buying a sim free phone then you are buying a a free phone and you can do whatever you want with the lgone
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He was talking of a phone on a uk network subsidised by the operator called three, unless I misunderstood.
In uk phones subsidised by some networks are locked so they will only work with specific networks sims and some have been imei locked by using msin method where only one card will work in the phone.
However if you can root the device and flash non branded firmware I think that overwrites the lock and enables non three sims.
Dave
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he informed me that the SIM the phone was sold with would be the only SIM that would work in it and using another SIM would IMEI block the phone.
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His wording is misappropriated: what he probably meant was that the phone was locked to the carrier so you wouldn't get network access. IMEI blocking only happens when reported lost/stolen.
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However if you can root the device and flash non branded firmware I think that overwrites the lock and enables non three sims.
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Well I hope your right Dave. I think 'thre3aces' is pretty much on the money with what was said to me at CW. I'm hoping the way of countering this will be as you said, by rooting / debranding and/or flashing the ROM and not by simular more complicated methods (in most cases) of unlocking the networks.
I don't think though that there is too much to worry about. It has never been a long wait for us modders to hack our phones after some fantastic new security device is wrecked by the likes of George Hotz (blackra1n) and the MadTeam's of the world etc.
And this whole thing stinks of Apple!
The staff at phone shops (cpw/p4u) are full of bimbos whom have little or no knowledge of what they are talking about.
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Well I hope your right Dave. I think 'thre3aces' is pretty much on the money with what was said to me at CW. I'm hoping the way of countering this will be as you said, by rooting / debranding and/or flashing the ROM and not by simular more complicated methods (in most cases) of unlocking the networks.
I don't think though that there is too much to worry about. It has never been a long wait for us modders to hack our phones after some fantastic new security device is wrecked by the likes of George Hotz (blackra1n) and the MadTeam's of the world etc.
And this whole thing stinks of Apple!
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Thre3aces was on about sim free phones but if you were on about a carrier subsidised payg one then yes carriers tend to lock them though only 3 and I think vodafone have been known to imei lock to one sim card and even then not very often.
I would assume the lock is firmware related though that is an assumption but if it were hardware locked then users would need a new phone if sims got damaged and that would cost more money hence the reason a firmware lock is more probable as they could more easily alter that.
If you had problems though maybe you could get a friend on 3 to ring them and say they bought a 3 phone and tried to input their sim but it failed...as an existing customer maybe three would unlock it for them?
Dave
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hello,i'm a new member here and this is my first post.Since my Galaxy ace broke i'm looking to find a new phone and i think i'm going with the desire s.I found this guy on ebay who sells his used desire s as faulty and claims it can't make or receive calls inside the u.k but after i asked him he said that it will work ok outside the u.k.Is that possible or is he lying.I really need some help on whether i should or shouldn't buy this phone.Thank you in advance and sorry for my english!
Well you can try to ask the guy where, more precisely, the problem comes from...
If it's a hardware issue (antenna?), i don't think the phone will be able to receive or send calls, neither in the UK, nor anywhere else. On the other hand, if it's a ROM / settings / software issue, it will probably be possible to fix it by installing a new ROM...
However if you need to change your phone, it's just my opinion but I'd rather go to a more recent model like the One S or One X... Not the same price though I agree.
Hope this helps
It could be the stolen phone and blocked by networks in the uk
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try flashing the newest Radio Image.
Flashing a new radio won't do a thing if the phone is registered as lost or stolen, which is going to be the case unfortunately.
EDIT: If you get the IMEI number from him you can check it at http://www.checkmend.com/uk/ for a small fee.
If it is not getting signal in the UK only then it is because the phone has been lost/stolen and the owner has rang up the network and they have put a block on it
I would say its stolen and the original owner has reported it to there provider who has blocked the phone.
If you buy it you could be buying stolen goods, mrbishi is right get the IMEI number and check it.
If anyone has a good relationship with anyone in management at at&t ... warranty dept ideally..... can you please pm me .... i need help.....
long story but in a nut shell i had a warranty claim involving charging port on my phone and it got misdelivered by post office .... second phone came and i was late returning it because it was lost in the return envelope somewhere... well they charged my account for $2000 dollars!!!
A representative of the warranty dept took over the case and we were doing great.... i assured her the phone had been recovered and was in
the mail. She took the situation by the horns and went to management and smoothed everything out.... until yesterday that is.... first- she told me to do nothing i.e. pay anything on my bill, until she got back in touch with me .... she cautioned this could take several weeks but that the charges applied to my account were serious and needed to be resolved before anything else transpires on the account... well yesterday tried to log onto
my at&t and check status and was still locked out so I placed a call to inquire..... get this .... its weird ... and i see why they would feel this way....
but while i'm on the phone i get a call from a young kid with latino or spanish accent indicating that he was terribly sorry but about two months ago
he received a package for me in the mail and it was a phone.... I was like theres the missing phone right.... well i told him i was on the way and
about ninety miles later and couple hours of trying to decipher his location I found him and recovered the device.... refurbished white one xl with 1.85 1.09 hboot... so i called back to try and locate my lady helping me and got customer service so i told them what had just transpired and i needed to be transferred to that dept... well she would only say that i needed to return the phone to closest location immediately...so i hung up...
got distracted as usual trying to run two businesses and buy another.... just four kids four dogs and a cat on a rainy day and it didnt happen...but i felt i needed to communicate with warranty dept... so anyway i woke up yesterday and my phone is cut off ....now this is not good for me trying to deal with banks for funding on a new business venture and kids and all. So infuriated i proceed to the local store with there phone and after a two hour ordeal with local manager and his support system we come up with i need to return the phone and sometime on or around the 1-17-13 everything will clear out and i can restore my service... well i blew up and told them to just close my accounts.. that was not acceptable...
Anyway the deal is although there way too expensive (my bill is never less than $250 , there still in my experience hands down the best...at least in this area.... and until now every issue i have they more than handle the situation... But i dont appreciate being treated like a criminal stealing a phone when i got up and went out of my way to recover there device. I had no responsibility to this device and had been cleared a month ago by the warranty dept who had confirmed by tracing the device that i never received it..... I also really dont appreciate my phone being turned off on a moments notice when i have done nothing but what i was instructed to do by there management.....
so im at a huge loss today on what to do ....
1- flash both devices to Straight Talk...?
2- send device back? and wait a week to be exhonerated of these charges and restored?
3- call attorney general and file complaint? hire lawyer with money i dont have?
4- do i have rights ? no rights?
I'm really getting sick of big corporations just steam rolling over the little guy.....ive already had a debacle earlier this year with sprint/google nexus that has all but put me out of business... and mother google is becoming the worst ally of a small biz owner ive ever seen ....between adwords and adsense....and there phone i'm in tight spot.....
any help or advice would be greatly appreciated........
Joe Adams
well first off team one X is a GSM device therefore it cannot be flashed however you can obtain an unlock code so you can use a straight talk sim card. Or you could even buy an AT&T compatible SIM from straight talk which does not require an unlock code. Secondly I would talk to supervisor or a store Manager and see if they can help you and your situation.
But whatever you choose best of luck to you on a second note if you get a straight talk sim you know you may get the error mm 6 device not authorized in which case means AT&T has your device on the lost or stolen blacklist
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thanks
yea well im sending back one of the devices.... so hopefully they wont do that to the other one... im unlocked and rooted on one and about to unlock and root the other one and going to nearest straight talk... i cant go without a phone .... F atat
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well first off team one X is a GSM device therefore it cannot be flashed however you can obtain an unlock code so you can use a straight talk sim card. Or you could even buy an AT&T compatible SIM from straight talk which does not require an unlock code. Secondly I would talk to supervisor or a store Manager and see if they can help you and your situation.
But whatever you choose best of luck to you on a second note if you get a straight talk sim you know you may get the error mm 6 device not authorized in which case means AT&T has your device on the lost or stolen blacklist
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AT&T are a bunch of thieves. Can't wait to leave myself! You might want to speak with your attorney.
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1homeboi said:
yea well im sending back one of the devices.... so hopefully they wont do that to the other one... im unlocked and rooted on one and about to unlock and root the other one and going to nearest straight talk... i cant go without a phone .... F atat
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if you want to go to straight talk check out their website for GSM BYOP (Bring Your Own Phone) @ straighttalksim.com and make sure you choose the AT&T Compatible SIM, You get the same coverage because it uses att towers, for a fraction of the price, however i dont know if they offer LTE yet or not so you may want to do some research on different APN Configurations and what not.
A Word about Unlocked just remember that the bootloader unlock and a Network Unlock are 2 different things, where you need the bootloader unlock to be able to use custom roms, firmware, and radios. You will need a network unlock to be able to use the device on another network that does not operate on att towers, some examples are T-Mobile, SIMple Mobile, Vodaphone, etc, etc