what a bunch of freaking losers!
after cellphone ban while driving, accident will continue to happen!
accident is accident! what are you going to blame after cellphone is banned while drivng and there' still accident? wait, they are wearing clothes when accident happens, let' ban clothes while driving and we must drive nude!
http://www.cnn.com/2011/12/13/us/ntsb-cell-phone-ban/index.html
Are you kidding me? You think it is ok to text and drive or talk and drive? It is not worth someone getting killed over.
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Are you kidding me? You think it is ok to text and drive or talk and drive? It is not worth someone getting killed over.
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are you closing your eyes while talking on phone when driving? then you doing it wrong! haha
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are you closing your eyes while talking on phone when driving? then you doing it wrong! haha
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Do you not look at the phone when you text? Honestly, I don't even know why I am responding to your post. It is quite clear that you are either a child or highly uneducated.
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Do you not look at the phone when you text? Honestly, I don't even know why I am responding to your post. It is quite clear that you are either a child or highly uneducated.
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fool! are you blind?? they also said NO TALKING on phone while driving! maybe you close your eyes while talking on phone when driving, but i dont!
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fool! are you blind?? they also said NO TALKING on phone while driving! maybe you close your eyes while talking on phone when driving, but i dont!
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So now the only sort of distraction is your eyes closed? Many states already have this law. LOL, and you call me a fool...to quote you..."accident is accident". Really?
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So now the only sort of distraction is your eyes closed? Many states already have this law. LOL, and you call me a fool...to quote you..."accident is accident". Really?
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look loser! there are accidents before this is cellphone! they must cause the accident by wearing clothes! let' all drive nude! haha
netnerd said:
look loser! there are accidents before this is cellphone! they must cause the accident by wearing clothes! let' all drive nude! haha
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Seriously? How old are you, 10? You can't even construct a single correct sentence, so how do you expect your opinion to hold any weight?
Well this is a very controversial matter. xD
Personally I approve this because I got into a small accident cuz of my phone. xD
I'm all for a Handset ban while behind the wheel but they should allow hands free.
Now hear me out first if your on the phone talking (hands free) it is no more distracting then having a friend next to you talking. With technology like Apples Siri and Google's Majel total hands free communication is becoming more and more possible.
As it is in the Province I live in Hand's free is legal while texting and using your hands is illegal
Using cell phones while driving has been banned for a while in some countries already. I approve of the ban. If you want to text or call, park your car. 2 hands on the wheel when driving
This is something I hoped would happen for such a long time. It will only help if the law is actually enforced, though. I don't know how many times I've been stuck behind someone driving 50% below the legal speed limit who was too busy chatting away on a cellphone to be bothered with paying proper attention to the road and obeying road rules and etiquette. It's actually worse than a woman fixing her face while driving to work.
My only hope is that the penalty for such a travesty as talking on a cellphone while driving will be severe.
This will stop texting accidents the same way this will stop drunk driving accidents, by that I mean not at all.
Stupid people are constantly looking for clever ways to hurt themselves and those around them
psijac said:
This will stop texting accidents the same way this will stop drunk driving accidents, by that I mean not at all.
Stupid people are constantly looking for clever ways to hurt themselves and those around them
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Maybe, but at least there will be penalties for them like there are for DWI offenders. It's worse to have DWC and no possibility of punishment. I would rather there be a punishment even if it didn't deter them. At least they would have to pay for their horrible and irresponsible behavior.
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Please guys keep on topic and friendly, otherwise I may have to shut down the business
EVERY ONE IS ALWAYS IN PEOPLE'S BUSINESS.
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I try not to use my cell phone in the car, I know a couple people who've gotten into accidents because they were too busy texting.
Hands free is no issue & safer than many other things you do while driving.
arguing with passengers, interacting with stereo & GPS systems, CB radio systems, eating, drinking fluids, smoking are all distractions but legal.
Health & safety has gone mad in the western world & the result is a collapsing economy as legal costs & limitations ruin economy & business growth.
The phone is not to blame but the idiots who text & call without handsfree kits are in need of harsher punishment.
Common sense & less nannying is what is required.
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hey loser, is that how you get through life by saying you know better grammer than others to feel better? haha
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Now hear me out first if your on the phone talking (hands free) it is no more distracting then having a friend next to you talking.
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That's not actually true. It is more distracting because the person you are talking with doesn't know what's going on around you and cannot help you react or pay attention. If you're talking to someone and they can see what you see, they'll slow down or stop talking at points where you need to concentrate, such as a busy intersection.
The human brain really isn't meant for multitasking like this so I would approve of such a ban.
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All of this GB radio leak talk has me extremely pissed and saddened. You guys saying "I'll take the chance, I have insurance" are committing fraud!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Seriously, do you have no Moral compass? You are breaking the LAW (committing a FELONY) and you are costing all of us NON-ASSHOLES money. I have a higher insurance rate than I used to because of all the fraudulent claims, we all have encrypted bootloaders because of all the fraudulent claims....
If you run unsigned code and the phone breaks, that is YOUR FAULT, not the OEM or anyone else's.
Honesty is a virtue, and many of you are lacking it, your families would be so proud.
It's a damn shame that jcase pointed out the error and you guys attack him and say that you don't care, you'll just defraud people. I hope Asurion subpoenas your IP addresses and files lawsuits against you all, criminal and civil. Seriously.
I would just like to point out the the OP that his message is in futility to anyone he intends it for. Just saying
This has always made me wonder...
I can drive down the street with my phone held out the window and when it drops I can have it replaced (via insurance) without hearing someone yell fraud. Sure its stupid, but I could do it.
How is this different?
Morkai Almandragon said:
This has always made me wonder...
I can drive down the street with my phone held out the window and when it drops I can have it replaced (via insurance) without hearing someone yell fraud. Sure its stupid, but I could do it.
How is this different?
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If you threw the phone out the window it would be fraud...
Right vs wrong. Deception vs honesty. Being a good person vs being an asshole.
Does no one ever look in the mirror anymore???
Fraud costs us all, and you have to be one selfish asshole to commit it. You are no more important than I, so why should you be able to cheat a company that will require ME to pay more?
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I would just like to point out the the OP that his message is in futility to anyone he intends it for. Just saying
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If 50 people read it I'll be happy. Just letting them know that there are still some honest people left who will look down upon them for their selfishness. I don't care if any of them change their ways, so long as they know they are assholes.
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If 50 people read it I'll be happy. Just letting them know that there are still some honest people left who will look down upon them for their selfishness. I don't care if any of them change their ways, so long as they know they are assholes.
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No offense but no one cares what people say on the internet. No one is telling it to their faces so they just shrug it off.
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Fine with me if someone wants to claim insurance fraudulently, but don't brag about it. Pretty obvious.
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All of this GB radio leak talk has me extremely pissed and saddened. You guys saying "I'll take the chance, I have insurance" are committing fraud!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Seriously, do you have no Moral compass? You are breaking the LAW (committing a FELONY) and you are costing all of us NON-ASSHOLES money. I have a higher insurance rate than I used to because of all the fraudulent claims, we all have encrypted bootloaders because of all the fraudulent claims....
If you run unsigned code and the phone breaks, that is YOUR FAULT, not the OEM or anyone else's.
Honesty is a virtue, and many of you are lacking it, your families would be so proud.
It's a damn shame that jcase pointed out the error and you guys attack him and say that you don't care, you'll just defraud people. I hope Asurion subpoenas your IP addresses and files lawsuits against you all, criminal and civil. Seriously.
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Just wondering with your strong moral compass do you let others know when you record their phone calls? Being that you not letting someone know they are being recorded could make you an asshole. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=14171309#post14171309
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Just wondering with your strong moral compass do you let others know when you record their phone calls? Being that you not letting someone know they are being recorded could make you an asshole. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=14171309#post14171309
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Nice try, but in my job I actually investigate fraud, and I start every phone call with "This call is being recorded" and then I ask them to state their name and say that they are aware of being recording. Having that built-in would make my job easier....
Want to try me again? This time in the bonus round where all rewards are doubled?
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Just wondering with your strong moral compass do you let others know when you record their phone calls? Being that you not letting someone know they are being recorded could make you an asshole. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=14171309#post14171309
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That could also be a crime. If you are in one of the twelve states listed in this article you would need consent from all parties on a call before you record. I wonder how this would work for cellphones with different area codes since they are mobile and all. For instance, if I have a Hawaii number but I travel to Florida would the law apply to my geographic location at time of making call or where my number is based out of?
http://www.rcfp.org/taping/
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I for one would feel bad about doing it in this case because we were warned before hand. I approach things like tethering differently because I feel like I already pay for data, etc, etc...But this seems different to me (albeit tethering is wrong too). I don't think I could send it in for warranty exchange after being careless and ignored warnings, but, I'm not one to throw stones either way.
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No offense but no one cares what people say on the internet. No one is telling it to their faces so they just shrug it off.
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They'll care when/if they are getting investigated and possibly sent to prison over a $500 phone. Insurance fraud nets you an average sentence of over 2 years in the penal system.... My investigations have led to almost as much jail-time as Denzel's character in "Training day"!!!!!
I'm sure you do. As for post, although I agree it's wrong to mislead someone. I feel it's not your position to pass judgment on to others since you benefit from their work.
Your insurance is higher because your holding a nearly $600 phone, not because of the minuscule % of people doing fraudulent claims. You would be shocked at the #"s of people that have droids to those who root. I work for vzw and honestly probably 1 out of every 20 droids I sell, does the person actually know what rooting is. On that note, they've heard of it, but don't know anything about it and when we explain the voided warranty, they quickly loose interest. It takes someone that is pretty confident in their PC skills to actually follow through with the root process. Plus the ones that actually do get through the process usually know enough to fix any issues they may come across. Ie. Everyone flashing older radios and going back to froyo. Bottom line its all about #s and it is NOT the reason behind Asurion raising monthly cost. Its the device...
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Does anyone find it funny that folks are getting bent out of shape over insurance claims, yet insurance companies screw the end user, be it medical, dental, whatever, constantly.
Just stop it with the moral compass crap and insurance talk. Neither belong together. The insurance company certainly has no moral compass. Two wrongs don't make a right...but a right and a wrong, still equals a wrong.
So you either win, or you lose. Moral compass doesn't pay any bills, and it doesn't make either side play fair, just because one side adheres to it.
--Sent from my phone, and off kilter moral compass.
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I'm sure you do. As for post, although I agree it's wrong to mislead someone. I feel it's not your position to pass judgment on to others since you benefit from their work.
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How do I benefit from people returning their phones fraudulently??
I don't get it?
Are you saying I benefit because they made a call recorder? In no way is any dev telling anyone to commit fraud, so I obviously am not passing judgement on any of them....
I am passing judgement on the people that cost me $$$$.
I work in the field, so let me tell you, BIG BROTHER IS WATCHING when fraud gets to the insane levels that they have here, and they will respond with appropriate rate hikes and litigation. In fact XDA developers themselves could face court fines if Asurion subpoenaed them and they didn't divulge the IP addresses of the admitted defrauders.
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Does anyone find it funny that folks are getting bent out of shape over insurance claims, yet insurance companies screw the end user, be it medical, dental, whatever, constantly...
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What a minute, did you peak at my latest medical bill? Their moral compass led them to my bank account.
I don't get how its fraud say I accidebtly dropped my phone out the window of my car...I knew before hand that I could drop it and break it but it happened so now let's say I rooted my phone and and it pricked I knew before that it could brick but it happened...it goes the same for swimming with your phone or doing anything else **** give me a break its not like people are breaking their phone on purpose I would agree when it comes to that but their not.
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What a minute, did you peak at my latest medical bill? Their moral compass led them to my bank account.
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hahaha!
Aint that the truth!
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Does anyone find it funny that folks are getting bent out of shape over insurance claims, yet insurance companies screw the end user, be it medical, dental, whatever, constantly.
Just stop it with the moral compass crap and insurance talk. Neither belong together. The insurance company certainly has no moral compass. Two wrongs don't make a right...but a right and a wrong, still equals a wrong.
So you either win, or you lose. Moral compass doesn't pay any bills, and it doesn't make either side play fair, just because one side adheres to it.
--Sent from my phone, and off kilter moral compass.
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If you feel like the insurance companies are screwing you, then don't get insurance. Very simple. I'm sure you can afford to pay for a catastrophic illness or disability out of pocket... Most people cannot, and rely on insurance to handle the burden...
You sign an agreement with them, actually a legally binding contract!!!! They don't violate it, so why should you be allowed to?? Because you want to stick it to "the man"????? Great reasoning.
Anyway, I'm out. Got business.
so, who's waiting in anticipation for the 3000+ ma battery for this infuse?
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so, who's waiting in anticipation for the 3000+ ma battery for this infuse?
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Not me! The thinness and lightness of this phone is the only thing that makes the giant screen tolerable IMHO.
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Not me! The thinness and lightness of this phone is the only thing that makes the giant screen tolerable IMHO.
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why would you... i don't even know why people need extra battery. like for reals I am a teen meaning i text browse the web listen to music like crazy and i get through the day at night with about 28% battery (last night).
and now that i got my iPod back battery should last even longer.
i really do not understand why people obsess over battery a lot. like don't you all go home and charge your phone??
i would understand if you phone isn't keeping charge then obsess over the battery but other than that it just pointless to me...
my 2 cents.
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why would you... i dont even know why people need extra battery. liek for reals Im a teen meaning i text browse the web listen to music like crazy and i get through the day at night with about 28% battery (last night).
and now that i got my iPod back battery should last even longer.
i really do not understand why people obsess over battery a lot. like don't you all go home and charge your phone??
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HAHA. This wins the award for best post ever.
1) "like for reals I'm a teen..." ... that statement alone identifies this kid as the guy we all made fun of cause he was annoying and always corrected the teached.
2) like for reals dude, maybe you should spend more time in school because you'll quickly learn that no matter how many times a day you tweet that you just ate pizza for lunch, it doesn't compare to the data usage a corporate user that has multiple exchange accounts syncing constantly changing calendar, contacts, docs, and OCS chatter.
3) Sorry if it's not a big deal if your battery runs low and you're unable to jerk off to Justin Bieber's new video in the bathroom stall between getting beat up on the bus and getting beat up in first period... but to some people there's a bit more at stake when their phone stops functioning.
Oye... I need a shower. haha
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HAHA. This wins the award for best post ever.
1) "like for reals I'm a teen..." ... that statement alone identifies this kid as the guy we all made fun of cause he was annoying and always corrected the teached.
2) like for reals dude, maybe you should spend more time in school because you'll quickly learn that no matter how many times a day you tweet that you just ate pizza for lunch, it doesn't compare to the data usage a corporate user that has multiple exchange accounts syncing constantly changing calendar, contacts, docs, and OCS chatter.
3) Sorry if it's not a big deal if your battery runs low and you're unable to jerk off to Justin Bieber's new video in the bathroom stall between getting beat up on the bus and getting beat up in first period... but to some people there's a bit more at stake when their phone stops functioning.
Oye... I need a shower. haha
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Wow... You've been aggravating me the last few days with your rude, snarky posts. Leave people alone if you do not have anything productive to say. This isn't like some general forum to flame people in..
It is an android development forum, and if you cannot provide any useful feedback, instead of just flaming other users, then why dont you just stop...
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Wow... You've been aggravating me the last few days with your rude, snarky posts. Leave people alone if you do not have anything productive to say. This isn't like some general forum to flame people in..
It is an android development forum, and if you cannot provide any useful feedback, instead of just flaming other users, then why dont you just stop...
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Are you illiterate? I was responding to a flaming post. I clearly explained why someone might want to have a longer battery, because the poster portrayed that battery life should not be a consideration.
If you don't like my opinions, you're free to block me.... but don't post your opinion and say others cannot do the same, that makes you a hypocrite. Your entire post is exactly what you're *****ing about other people doing.
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Are you illiterate? I was responding to a flaming post. I clearly explained why someone might want to have a longer battery, because the poster portrayed that battery life should not be a consideration.
If you don't like my opinions, you're free to block me.... but don't post your opinion and say others cannot do the same, that makes you a hypocrite. Your entire post is exactly what you're *****ing about other people doing.
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Ya okay... First of all, Transformer27's post was not attacking anyone directly. Then you go ahead and respond by flaming all over him, ripping him to shreds, for what he posted, and how he posted it, and making fun of him directly as a person...
Your calling me a hypocrite? its not hypocritical to call someone out on abuse, sorry.
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Ya okay... First of all, Transformer27's post was not attacking anyone directly. Then you go ahead and respond by flaming all over him, ripping him to shreds, for what he posted, and how he posted it, and making fun of him directly as a person...
Your calling me a hypocrite? its not hypocritical to call someone out on abuse, sorry.
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Everyone's entitled to their opinion.
dam seriously guys/girls
first, i do pay attention in school just because I am tweeting and face book and listen to music, doesn't mean i don't pay attention, im actually graduating today top 10%!
second, i have my email accounts, calendars, and pretty much everything synced up to 1 hour intervals, college papers for my summer course are done through Google docs so yes i use a **** load of data to get my **** done.
and third, Justin Bieber dude really? that was so unnecessary if your going to put something some thing like that at least put porn hub or some thing else. get with the program... Justin Bieber... pffft.
So the weather is pretty nice out today in sandy eggo.
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cmjkxa said:
so the weather is pretty nice out today in sandy eggo.
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hahahahahahahahahaha
I agree with hoofadoo. Bella, he was merely stating his opinion. No reason to attack him. My opinion on the battery differs from his as well, but I don't feel a need to flame him. Play nice.
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LMAO at the weather.
i just think it really defeats the purpose of having the thinnest smartphone in the states.
and now that we have roms, battery life gets better from here. im currently running at 63% percent unplugged since 9:50is am. that more than 12 hours already and still have more than half.
I think we can all agree its good idea "IF" you need it to carry around a small portable external charger. That way no one looses the thinness or the light wighteness of the phone.
I might not need an "Executive" account to know that battery life on smart phones usually suck, but I am a teen and the "Constant " twitter posts I put out there leave me with battery to spare at the end of the day.
PS. I don't have a twitter. Lol
My thoughts on the subject.
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Everyone's entitled to their opinion.
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And that's where you're wrong. You can have an opinion, but it it's rude to another person, i'd like you to keep it to yourself. You can correct someone, but stay polite. I don't like the tone you're setting.
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so apparently the German government (and other entities) have been using silent sms attacks to keep tabs on its civilians
they send a silent sms to someones phone, it dosent show up at all on their device, but it pings back Imei numbers and other info, which can be cross reffed with the operator log of the towers and used to compile an entire movement profile for an individual
now i dont know about you but as an upstanding citizen this kind of crap concerns the heck outta me.
i believe further exploration into some sort of defense against ssms attacks is in order but it is way above my paygrade
I'm not so sure about this.. So the mobile OS developers, operators and the government(s) are involved in this? To me this sounds like someone is a bit paranoid.
It is possible and may not be at the behest of the cell providers. Look at the things that the US government has done in this regard. The patriot act here in the states gives the government the right to view and track calls, emails, and so forth. Though it could be a false alarm it is possible. :s
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Eeroz said:
I'm not so sure about this.. So the mobile OS developers, operators and the government(s) are involved in this? To me this sounds like someone is a bit paranoid.
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Not the OS developers, it purely has to do with the carriers. I remember reading a lot about similar things in the past, like pinging a phone, class 0 sms', etc. Does anyone have any related links, whether relating to the governments use or these pinging sms' in general? Sounds like an interesting topic!
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It is possible and may not be at the behest of the cell providers. Look at the things that the US government has done in this regard. The patriot act here in the states gives the government the right to view and track calls, emails, and so forth. Though it could be a false alarm it is possible. :s
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I hear you there. Look at the new chip they want in all cell phones in the US starting this year for government based SMS for terrorist threats and amber alerts. Wonder why it is gonna be connected to the GPS and phone mic?
I'm pretty confident that the government and to be more precise law enforcement have all right to keep track of you and your movements if they see fit.
In saying this though, most governments and once again to be more precise law enforcement will only track you and record your activities should you be doing activities that would force them to.
You aren't doing anything you shouldn't be doing are you?
PS I had to give my mobile number to an officer of the law the other day, to say the least I'm kind of paranoid that they will look through previous texts that I have sent which could be incriminating, but in saying this I'm more than happy to accept my fate should such predicament come to haunt me.
My point is that if you need to ensure you aren't being recorded or tracked, do your illegal activities on a phone which cannot be traced back to you.
Edit this image is relevant to this thread.
http://www.philzimmermann.com/images/TinFoilHatArea.jpg
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Any proof about this?
Do a search for Fema chips in cell phones and see.
zeekiz said:
I'm pretty confident that the government and to be more precise law enforcement have all right to keep track of you and your movements if they see fit.
In saying this though, most governments and once again to be more precise law enforcement will only track you and record your activities should you be doing activities that would force them to.
You aren't doing anything you shouldn't be doing are you?
PS I had to give my mobile number to an officer of the law the other day, to say the least I'm kind of paranoid that they will look through previous texts that I have sent which could be incriminating, but in saying this I'm more than happy to accept my fate should such predicament come to haunt me.
My point is that if you need to ensure you aren't being recorded or tracked, do your illegal activities on a phone which cannot be traced back to you.
Edit this image is relevant to this thread.
http://www.philzimmermann.com/images/TinFoilHatArea.jpg
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To say if you are not doing anything wrong then you should not fear having no privacy in the eyes of the government and the law is dumb. People keep information other than criminal activites private for many reasons, And that has the potential for abuse or missuse by the wrong people. For example look at American presidential campaigns Quite often they have people digging up dirt on their rivals, quite often its inconsequential dirt, but the PR firms twist it and stretch it and convert it into a duststorm of contraversy, can you imagine how much easier that type of BS would be if one political contender / group had a supporter or supporters high up with access to this information? low risk move for them, and a goldmine for their marketing firms.
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To say if you are not doing anything wrong then you should not fear having no privacy in the eyes of the government and the law is dumb. People keep information other than criminal activites private for many reasons, And that has the potential for abuse or missuse by the wrong people. For example look at American presidential campaigns Quite often they have people digging up dirt on their rivals, quite often its inconsequential dirt, but the PR firms twist it and stretch it and convert it into a duststorm of contraversy, can you imagine how much easier that type of BS would be if one political contender / group had a supporter or supporters high up with access to this information? low risk move for them, and a goldmine for their marketing firms.
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Agreed. Oh and while he is at it might as well tell all those people that died protecting freedom that they died for no reason because he doesn't care about his freedom of privacy.
zelendel said:
Agreed. Oh and while he is at it might as well tell all those people that died protecting freedom that they died for no reason because he doesn't care about his freedom of privacy.
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I wouldn't go as far as saying died for no reason, I agree with freedom of privacy, but I also believe more or less that they would be doing this pinging for our protection.
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I wouldn't go as far as saying died for no reason, I agree with freedom of privacy, but I also believe more or less that they would be doing this pinging for our protection.
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I know that maybe a bit harsh but some of my freinds were those that stood up for our rights and freedom and for someone to say its OK for a government to remove that right rubs me wrong.
I would to if you were innocent until proven guilty but we all know that is not the case anymore. Now you are guilty until proven innocent.
I think the days of thinking that our government is out for the good of people is long over.
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I wouldn't go as far as saying died for no reason, I agree with freedom of privacy, but I also believe more or less that they would be doing this pinging for our protection.
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Oh for my "protection" well thats okay then.
So whats your stance on carrier IQ then? after all its only sending information that will make our phone using experiance better, And from a safety issue SOPA and the Australian internet filter are brilliant, Means I can not access those nasty sites that will put me at risk, Just like in China. It does not stink of isolationisim and control at all. And all no one should want ANYTHING kept private if they are not breaking the law should they? Infact privacy breeds suscpicion. How about for everyones safety you post your private details and smses as well as your daily schedule so we know you are not going around consorting with terroists or drug dealers.
Anyone who would sacrifice liberty for security deserves neither.
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forget the government, they don't need to do anything.
all they need to do is contact Google and Apple.
they have us all under lock and key... in the name of convenience and technology.
we are all just bunch of *****es and whores.
Mainspring said:
forget the government, they don't need to do anything.
all they need to do is contact Google and Apple.
they have us all under lock and key... in the name of convenience and technology.
we are all just bunch of *****es and whores.
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^^^^--- This.
Anyway, as far as being able to track you they would need probable cause to even begin to attempt to defend themselves if any government type decides to do this. At least enough to warrant a search a seizure. I don't know how the laws are outside of the states but I can imagine unless you're in a dictatorship or you live in a communist nation the laws are similar.
Higher-ups have always been able to do this, that's not the question. The question is the legitimacy of the situations that they decide to use their power.
LOL
I love you guys who born and grow up in the US. and Western part where democracy is practicing daily.
Coming off a communist country, I love freedom a lot but ......... if you do no harm to the nation, no harm to the country, no harm to the community and no harm to anybody, then you SHOULD NEVER worry about it.
If you say "Obama is suck and I hate him" you not gonna be jailed for that.
If you say "I hate white president and I never vote for those again", you not gonna be fined for that.
If you say "I just have sex with my g/f and she moans like crazy", they not gonna care to listen to your conversation.
But if you are up to something, potentially put the nation, commnunity at risk, yes, you are deserved to lock up for the rest of your life as the safety issue for the rest.
Period.
Yes a the moment the government can suboena Google or whoever and can get the info but at least there is a process to be followed paperwork and its all mostly in the open. So if this is the case why do they need to get this info via this chip? To me the potential for misuse outweighs the potential for safety removing a link in the chain does not nessicarily make the chain better or stronger
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Yes a the moment the government can suboena Google or whoever and can get the info but at least there is a process to be followed paperwork and its all mostly in the open. So if this is the case why do they need to get this info via this chip? To me the potential for misuse outweighs the potential for safety removing a link in the chain does not nessicarily make the chain better or stronger
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Look at all the articles about how carriers gave the FBI an open ticket to their systems. The government has been doing unwarrented wire taps for years now in the name of security which is BS.
As for the previous comment no you don't get in trouble for things like that but let me tell you a true story about a buddy of mine.
He and his girlfreind got into an argument where she made up lies about how he said he would kill her for threating to run away with their child. The cops find him on a bus leaving state. Tosses him in jail for 4 weeks until he sees a judge as their is no bail in the state for demestic issues. Then he get 6 months probation and has to pay $4000 in fines. Cant go to trial as she cant be found. Now he has assault on his record and is having trouble finding work as all it says is ASSAULT nothing else. All for words he never said. But even if he had it was still just words. Nothing more. No history of violence. Just an empty threat.
Yeah freedom right. Guilty until proven innocent
Wow, never heard this until now
Does anyone know how to see if someone is spying on my internet usage on my phone? I'm using wimax and 3g
I just want to see if the government is spying
Maybe this is a delicate topic
But pretty interesting
I would love an app for that.
Hahahahahaha.
Wait, you're being serious?
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Hahahahahaha.
Wait, you're being serious?
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Quote for emphasis.
seems to me someone has been watching to many sci-fi thrillers.
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Quote for emphasis.
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Quote because your username possibly answers the question.
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Quote because your username possibly answers the question.
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Hahahahaha. Quote for FTW post.
detroit2hi said:
Does anyone know how to see if someone is spying on my internet usage on my phone? I'm using wimax and 3g
I just want to see if the government is spying
Maybe this is a delicate topic
But pretty interesting
I would love an app for that.
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No because if any spying was done it would be done after the data left your phone and therefore undetectable.
The usa and uk do have an agreement whereby each can monitor the others private citizens (yes it is real and has been discussed in the uk houses of parliament. Its called echelon and is a matter of public record in uk) but its highly doubtful you would be spyed on for no reason and not really something you could know if it did happen so not worth worrying over.
Dave
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No because if any spying was done it would be done after the data left your phone and therefore undetectable.
The usa and uk do have an agreement whereby each can monitor the others private citizens (yes it is real and has been discussed in the uk houses of parliament. Its called echelon and is a matter of public record in uk) but its highly doubtful you would be spyed on for no reason and not really something you could know if it did happen so not worth worrying over.
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I'm in japan and they take **** really serious here. Bittorrents and all that stuff.
You kids might laugh but this ****s serious.
Seems soon many times when I'm downloading the police park outside my building. Its not just this time.
For you that laughed I guess you never heard of "acta" or "sopa" these things are serious and not to be laughed at
But your ignorance is what makes you you I guess and makes them so so much money
The ones that they Sue for millions of $$$
I have my protection up
But these police keep parking out my building everytime I test the system.
I want to see what they see.
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I laugh because the way you worded it made it sound like some action movie ****.
I don't live in a box, I know what SOPA and ACTA are. Well, ACTA now. But how about, if they take that **** so seriously, you stop doing what they don't want you to do if you're afraid of the consequences.
It's like you're afraid of jail but you still have no problem robbing a store.
So chill with the illegal stuff and you won't have to worry about the police outside.
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I laugh because the way you worded it made it sound like some action movie ****.
I don't live in a box, I know what SOPA and ACTA are. Well, ACTA now. But how about, if they take that **** so seriously, you stop doing what they don't want you to do if you're afraid of the consequences.
It's like you're afraid of jail but you still have no problem robbing a store.
So chill with the illegal stuff and you won't have to worry about the police outside.
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Because the internet is free and should always be. Im just asking. Why do you have to be a web police??
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I once found an app that detects all wifi enabled devices that are using wifi or Mobile data connections. It was gone so fast I couldn't get it.
It used a live map to detect the location
I feel I'm touching a subject that's too sensitive.
Hahaha lol...
You being serious or not.. Still funny
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Hahaha lol...
You being serious or not.. Still funny
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You are obvious drunk
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I'm not being the internet police. I'm stating the obvious. Don't do illegal **** and you won't have to be all paranoid.
The internet isn't really free. You pay your monthly bill for it or whatever, but the content within the internet is free unless, of course, you're downloading repackaged programs that actually retail for real money in which case you should buy the stupid program or music.
Not saying that I'm not guilty of pirating either, but don't complain about consequences for your actions when you knew them before you even did it.
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Can I just marry you?
I saw this this morning on Flipboard, any thoughts? I would guess even custom ROMS do no good when it comes to Verizon collecting our browsing/internet habits?
http://news.cnet.com/8301-13578_3-5...ring-customers-app-usage-web-browsing-habits/
I don't like big brother monitoring.
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I saw this this morning on Flipboard, any thoughts? I would guess even custom ROMS do no good when it comes to Verizon collecting our browsing/internet habits?
http://news.cnet.com/8301-13578_3-5...ring-customers-app-usage-web-browsing-habits/
I don't like big brother monitoring.
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I didn't read the full thing but google has been doing this forever and then some. they even increased how detailed/how much data they collect with the new TOS they put out recently. I'm betting the only reason Verizon is drawing more fire is because of the phone aspect of it.
Also, big brother can and does whatever they want. The government monitors all sorts of stuff that you would think would be illegal to do. Welcome to the new socialist regime under Obama..
I don't see an opt out, unless its not out yet.
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I clicked it and it kept logging me out of my Verizon account and just showing the main splash page.
Mystikalrush said:
I don't see an opt out, unless its not out yet.
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Just log in to myverizon and go to privacy settings. Should bring up a page with all your lines under each section and you can select the bubble to opt out.
Custom ROM tracking?
Does this still apply to users with a custom ROM?
Brian Gove said:
I didn't read the full thing but google has been doing this forever and then some. they even increased how detailed/how much data they collect with the new TOS they put out recently. I'm betting the only reason Verizon is drawing more fire is because of the phone aspect of it.
Also, big brother can and does whatever they want. The government monitors all sorts of stuff that you would think would be illegal to do. Welcome to the new socialist regime under Obama..
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Yeah, if you don't think that Bush handed him the keys right before firmly pointing the economy at the iceberg and tying steering wheel in place before doing so, than your mistaken.. And being prior military and working in intelligence, I can tell you that every electronic ANYTHING is being archived and saved and scanned for keywords since way before Obama. Eery single one of your emails and voice conversations and IM's and posts. Hmm and who put the Patriot Act in place.. hmm.. Have a Lovely day talking to big brother.. Oh by the way.. They prefer sexting.
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Not that I want to get into a political conversation here, but I will, who made it a felony to protest, even peacefully, in front of the Secret Service? Who's had 4 years to fix said economy but has only steered it deeper into the hole. Obama has increased the national debt more in 4 years than Bush did in 8.
Now I'm not a Bush fan, I'm just saying Obama is bad news. Oh, as far as the Patriot Act, who renewed it once the majority of the terrorist alarm settled down years after 9/11??
I do agree the monitoring has been going on for a long time, but it has either taken steps that no one would before or at least taken steps publicly that every other regime did in secret. If it is just the same sh*t diff pile then doing it publicly is just a slap in the face to everyone. I'd rather they try to hide it then do it and blatantly step on our rights.
Oh, one more thing, who's given illegal immigrants more rights/help than the average American who is in need of help too?
I'm pretty sure most companies track your online habbits. They claim the use it for "market research". On my phone I'm not really that bothered by it, I don't do anything on it that I want to keep private, because I don't trust how private they are.
I wouldn't worry too much about it, unless you are embarassed you look at porn on your phone. Just keep things you would like to be personal and not tracked heavily on a properly secured connection at home, and possibly use TOR if you are that paranoid and want a little extra security.
Actually, I believe there is Tor available for android. It may help cut down on what they know your doing.
yawn, who cares???
Brian Gove said:
I didn't read the full thing but google has been doing this forever and then some. they even increased how detailed/how much data they collect with the new TOS they put out recently. I'm betting the only reason Verizon is drawing more fire is because of the phone aspect of it.
Also, big brother can and does whatever they want. The government monitors all sorts of stuff that you would think would be illegal to do. Welcome to the new socialist regime under Obama..
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Ya because Obama is a king and can just do whatever he wants with no one else in government having a say.
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Yeah, let's not make this a presidential debate thread.
I've always liked Verizon, but lately I'm getting tired of them. I'm following the link to opt out.
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I swear, everybody is monitoring search and usage results nowadays...
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Ya because Obama is a king and can just do whatever he wants with no one else in government having a say.
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Wasting your time. If someone says socialist regime and Obama together.. Let it go. And consider that statement with future debates with them.
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blestsol said:
Wasting your time. If someone says socialist regime and Obama together.. Let it go. And consider that statement with future debates with them.
Gs3
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Ignorance is bliss huh?
(Oh, and by the way, you just used them in the same sentence so are you including yourself in your comment?)
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Ignorance is bliss huh?
(Oh, and by the way, you just used them in the same sentence so are you including yourself in your comment?)
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Yes. That's exactly what I meant. When someone is referring to another comment they're automatically bunched in.
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Gs3
Democrat or Republican the only thing you can be sure of is they do NOT have your best interest in mind. They love that they factioned the people, makes it easier for them when we're fighting about who's the worst.
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Not that I want to get into a political conversation here, but I will, who made it a felony to protest, even peacefully, in front of the Secret Service? Who's had 4 years to fix said economy but has only steered it deeper into the hole. Obama has increased the national debt more in 4 years than Bush did in 8.
Now I'm not a Bush fan, I'm just saying Obama is bad news. Oh, as far as the Patriot Act, who renewed it once the majority of the terrorist alarm settled down years after 9/11??
I do agree the monitoring has been going on for a long time, but it has either taken steps that no one would before or at least taken steps publicly that every other regime did in secret. If it is just the same sh*t diff pile then doing it publicly is just a slap in the face to everyone. I'd rather they try to hide it then do it and blatantly step on our rights.
Oh, one more thing, who's given illegal immigrants more rights/help than the average American who is in need of help too?
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You may want to check your facts there....
Farabomb said:
Democrat or Republican the only thing you can be sure of is they do NOT have your best interest in mind. They love that they factioned the people, makes it easier for them when we're fighting about who's the worst.
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Best statement of the day! Now back to tech news, I hate politics.
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I swear, everybody is monitoring search and usage results nowadays...
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I don't mind some monitoring but when they collect everything!? That's a little overboard IMO. I want an option to op out. I don't care about their strategic advertisements for my use. I guess there's no way stop them until theyre a law suit against them.