Posted by LindsayC on 5 Dec 2011 2:52 PM
I was told by an HTC colleague, Stephanie, yesterday night, via e-mail that my phone, the HTC Inspire 4G (AT&T) would indeed be getting upgraded to the Android 4.0 IceCream Sandwich OS in "Early 2012"
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Found on the HTC support site I know that everyone is saying it wont get it due to no dual core but could they somehow optimize it for us? most likely AT&T wouldnt be getting the upgrade because they are lame but what about unlocked inspires? Just wanted to share this with the community
They lied.
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ICS ROM is already in beta here on xda. Was for no dual for being a reason, Google has already stated that it would run on any phone they could run Ginger.
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bilibox said:
Found on the HTC support site I know that everyone is saying it wont get it due to no dual core but could they somehow optimize it for us? most likely AT&T wouldnt be getting the upgrade because they are lame but what about unlocked inspires? Just wanted to share this with the community
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you haven't taken a stroll over to the dev section have you?
ICS is out (beta form) and there really isn't any need for another pointless ICS thread. It's been covered. The inspire will get it. Whether it's an official release from AT&T or not, the inspire has it. end of story.
MMM-BACONSTRIPS said:
you haven't taken a stroll over to the dev section have you?
ICS is out (beta form) and there really isn't any need for another pointless ICS thread. It's been covered. The inspire will get it. Whether it's an official release from AT&T or not, the inspire has it. end of story.
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Agreed. And the apgs patch released this week works for the ics port.
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Agps*
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MMM-BACONSTRIPS said:
you haven't taken a stroll over to the dev section have you?
ICS is out (beta form) and there really isn't any need for another pointless ICS thread. It's been covered. The inspire will get it. Whether it's an official release from AT&T or not, the inspire has it. end of story.
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Yes I have but just because a phone Can run it doesn't mean we will get it As so my friend has the incred. and He most likely wont be getting it but his phone could handle it and there are roms for his phone
I know rooted phones will obviously be getting4.0 but I'm talking about non rooted inspires
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Yes I have but just because a phone Can run it doesn't mean we will get it As so my friend has the incred. and He most likely wont be getting it but his phone could handle it and there are roms for his phone
I know rooted phones will obviously be getting4.0 but I'm talking about non rooted inspires
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Unless ist a custom Rom inspires have about a 5% chance of getting it. If they do get it then it won't be until next winter at least as the inspire has already been deemed EOL by ATT
zelendel said:
the inspire has already been deemed EOL by ATT
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Really? After 9 months? Why are they still selling it then?
pazzo02 said:
Really? After 9 months? Why are they still selling it then?
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Cause it's ahmazing.
Besides, officially, the latest we can get from HTC will ne the 2.3.5 and Sense 3.0 that just went out to unlocked Desire HDs over in Europe. That we should definitely see in "Early 2012".
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Yes I have but just because a phone Can run it doesn't mean we will get it As so my friend has the incred. and He most likely wont be getting it but his phone could handle it and there are roms for his phone
I know rooted phones will obviously be getting4.0 but I'm talking about non rooted inspires
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...oh yeah, non-rooted phones because you know, that was stated in the OP how silly of me to not infer this. Like I said and my comment speaks for itself, whether or not we get ICS officially isn't the question, the beta is out, rooted phones will get it. If you or anyone likes ICS that much and needs it, consider getting a phone that will support it non-rooted or just root your inspire if it means that much. Again, another pointless thread about ICS. Nothing has changed, it is still the same information.
AT&T always ends life of a phone after 2-3 updates. They don't support phones for very long because they're more worried about making money from new phones. If they supported their old phones, they'd lose their precious money.
I flashed the beta 4 build of ISC and am not real wild about the UI, anyone else feel that way?
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I flashed the beta 4 build of ISC and am not real wild about the UI, anyone else feel that way?
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I am exactly the opposite. The UI is awesome.
You must be a fan of sense. I prefer Goggle plain.
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i am exactly the opposite. The ui is awesome.
You must be a fan of sense. I prefer goggle plain.
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this this this!!!
Not only will ICS run perfectly fine on a single core fun (I have Beta IV) it uses less RAM than gingerbread does.
And I know this isn't the right place for it, but because I have no other posts I can't ask in development...
Have any of you guys found an Undervoltable Kernel that will work with ICS?
This really is gonna be a never ending issue. This will always be happening unless you get a nexus or euro unbranded version of the phone. As long as the carriers control the updates we may get one maybe two updates but that will be about it. This has always been and always will be the case
Absolutely love ICS. just waiting for it to be bug free. Unfortunately, I think driver support will be limited unless released by HTC.
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Absolutely love ICS. just waiting for it to be bug free. Unfortunately, I think driver support will be limited unless released by HTC.
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Well see thats the thing. HTC nor anyone else has or will ever release the driver source code as it is not theirs to give. This has always been my issue with AOSP roms. the open source drivers just cant stand up to the OEM drivers.
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So I was reading a blog about future upgrades for phones and saw no mention of our beloved MyTouch 4G. Any thoughts? http://m.blogs.computerworld.com/18077/android_23_upgrade_list
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http://m.blogs.computerworld.com/18077/android_23_upgrade_list said:
Android 2.3 Upgrade List: The Rest of the Phones
If a phone isn't listed here -- like the original Motorola Droid, for example -- it's likely because there just isn't much clear info available yet about its fate. Odds are, we'll soon be hearing more and more details with each passing week.
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There have been some reports of HTC reps saying we will have an update, and the site says they do not have info on all phones
I think the fact that the myTouch phones use the stupid, TMO customized version of Sense means OS updates will be slightly delayed compared to other phones that use more common user interfaces (only the myTouch phones use "mySense", but there are lots of HTC phones that use regular Sense). That being said, it would be shocking if a phone with hardware as powerful as the MT4G has doesn't get a 2.3 update, or even 2.4 if that comes out eventually.
Shocking yes, but typical in the logic of big business? Not at all.
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1) Do you really want an update from t-mobile?
2) If the G2 gets it, my guess is the MT4G would follow - considering the hardware similarities.
3) CyanogenMod7>Any OTA from T-Mobile.
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1) Do you really want an update from t-mobile?
2) If the G2 gets it, my guess is the MT4G would follow - considering the hardware similarities.
3) CyanogenMod7>Any OTA from T-Mobile.
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The vast majority of MT4G's and in fact all Android phones are not rooted. Although most XDA users don't want an OTA, most users of the MT4G would benefit from it. Also, the development community can benefit from a 2.3 OTA because of kernels and drivers that are Gingerbread compatible specifically made for our device, that we don't currently have.
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1) Do you really want an update from t-mobile?
2) If the G2 gets it, my guess is the MT4G would follow - considering the hardware similarities.
3) CyanogenMod7>Any OTA from T-Mobile.
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If CM7RC4 is as good as it is now, image what will happen if we get the official drivers, and various protocols.
as much as i like AOSP ROMs i'd love to see some HomeBaked goodies using the real deal.
And i know TeamRoyal would cook up some mighty good stuff as well.
Yeah it would deff be nice to see ASOP for us,that would open up so much for us.
If the g2 gets it, and they release kernel source, it wont matter if we get an official version or not.
Ive never like stock, stupid crap i didnt need, slow, and built how they want..Cm7 has everything i need. But if the mytouch 3g got froyo, dont see why this phone, which started at 2.2.1, wont see gingy.
humm... when the ginger comes out i bet the honey based custom will also be out. i take the honey then
man... im hungry
2.3
The MT4G will in fact be getting 2.3
We're definitely getting 2.3............ Multiple sources confirm!
great newss
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I think the fact that the myTouch phones use the stupid, TMO customized version of Sense means OS updates will be slightly delayed compared to other phones that use more common user interfaces (only the myTouch phones use "mySense", but there are lots of HTC phones that use regular Sense). That being said, it would be shocking if a phone with hardware as powerful as the MT4G has doesn't get a 2.3 update, or even 2.4 if that comes out eventually.
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If the g2 gets it, and they release kernel source, it wont matter if we get an official version or not.
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Guess what..... looks like we get 2.3 at the same time as everybody else
http://www.tmonews.com/2011/04/mytouch-4g-gingerbread-update-coming-soon/
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Guess what..... looks like we get 2.3 at the same time as everybody else
http://www.tmonews.com/2011/04/mytouch-4g-gingerbread-update-coming-soon/
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Sweeeeet.
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Sweeeeet.
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Thanks to me.
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Thanks to me.
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Thanks Michael2041, now... if we don't have our upgrade. You're dead... everyone will go after you... j/k bro nice job
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Lol I might consider letting u do that if theres no gingerbread...haha jk jk
So now we know there is going to be a gb update, cann't wait for the CM, Royal and faux to dig their teeth into the source and cook something even better for us. We are sooo hungry
I know we just got 2.3.3 but I'm just wandering why they getting an update so fast and who knows when we will get another one
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Probably never, there are rumors of the g2x getting ICS 4.0 sometime, although that is highly unlikely. You can try out CM7 for 2.3.5.
What he said
LG and T-Mobile won't come out with any updates. LG releasing the source code, they abandoned support.
XDA is only reason this phone gets any kind of love and support.
There is hardly anything noticeable between 2.3.3, 2.3.4, and 2.3.5.
If you want a newer version, do a custom rom. I can't understand why people, on XDA especially, fight so hard to stay on a stock rom that is old and lacking. My neighbor bought a G2x the other day and I NVFlashed his phone in like 4 minutes (mostly due to downloading and finding the XDA thread for the NVFlasher).
Gingerbread is available in a plethera of roms for our device. I'd much rather LG focus their efforts on a timely ICS release.
I just wish nvidia would release drivers. I would love a2dp on the newer roms
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Probably never, there are rumors of the g2x getting ICS 4.0 sometime, although that is highly unlikely. You can try out CM7 for 2.3.5.
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What information are you basing this on? I don't have any proof that you're wrong, but then again I don't believe you have any proof that you're right either.
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I'd much rather LG focus their efforts on a timely ICS release.
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I agree completely. This hardware won't be outaded any time soon. It has a lot of power. Hopefully LG will do a better job with the next update.
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I agree completely. This hardware won't be outaded any time soon. It has a lot of power. Hopefully LG will do a better job with the next update.
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I hope we don't get 2.3.4 or 2.3.6 if that comes. I want LG to just focus on getting out 2.4 as near as available as possible. All the learning from vanilla with driver fixes should make 2.4 a snap.
At this point nothing about 2.3 any variants makes any difference after 2.3.3
The G2X vanilla should easily be able to handle Android 4, or 2.4 whatever its named sandwich. The hardware is spec. And should be able to get onto the next version after Ice Cream, at that time it will be like a basic model that can still easily support.
I am expecting 2 more full releases on the phone, as the cost for LG to do, with the drivers worked out, should be very minimal.
Worse case, LG can license a custom ROM, and toss that out for a couple hundred K. 2 man years cost.
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I just wish nvidia would release drivers. I would love a2dp on the newer roms
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i dont understand what is that if nvidia releases driver, whats a2dp is?
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i dont understand what is that if nvidia releases driver, whats a2dp is?
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Bluetooth = a2dp
gypsy214 said:
i dont understand what is that if nvidia releases driver, whats a2dp is?
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Streaming audio via bluetooth
That's what she said...
even though
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I hope we don't get 2.3.4 or 2.3.6 if that comes. I want LG to just focus on getting out 2.4 as near as available as possible. All the learning from vanilla with driver fixes should make 2.4 a snap.
At this point nothing about 2.3 any variants makes any difference after 2.3.3
The G2X vanilla should easily be able to handle Android 4, or 2.4 whatever its named sandwich. The hardware is spec. And should be able to get onto the next version after Ice Cream, at that time it will be like a basic model that can still easily support.
I am expecting 2 more full releases on the phone, as the cost for LG to do, with the drivers worked out, should be very minimal.
Worse case, LG can license a custom ROM, and toss that out for a couple hundred K. 2 man years cost.
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It is nice to see you post something other than the CAL... if you really think LG is gonna release anything other than maybe a small updae which i also doubt. maybe youll join with the CAL.. This is it even LG has said they dont even plan on bringing out the camera appp which i thought they would at least do.
As burk said no proof either way. But history means a lot and sicne this debacle i have looked at lg and see this has been nothing new with them. and Updates have been only carrier pushed for bugs from what i have read.
Yes it would be nice to see something new and great for the phone from LG but dont hold your breath.
hmmm
I would rather LG focus on getting all the bugs fix with this phone rather than releaseing a new os version for it plauged with the same issues and froyo and gingerbread
My neighbor bought an airplane... I need to get a spaceship...
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i only want them to give us 2.3.4 because of gtalk video chat.. other then that i can careless. i know we can get it with custom roms but i actually love the stock rooted gingerbread rom. this is the only time i actually love the stock rom lol
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i only want them to give us 2.3.4 because of gtalk video chat.. other then that i can careless. i know we can get it with custom roms but i actually love the stock rooted gingerbread rom. this is the only time i actually love the stock rom lol
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Wouldn't actually work since gtalk works using NEON which our processors don't have. I haven't tried the alternatives (like vtalk our vtok, something like that) but they don't apparently work well. google has to fix it unless there's been a development I missed.
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After the fiasco of 2.3.3, LG is never going to touch this phone ever again. It's dead in the water for all they care, and Tmo isn't going to pressure them into updating because they're focused on pimping the Sensation right now.
CyanogenMod is the only way this phone will ever see ICS, I would put money on that.
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Wouldn't actually work since gtalk works using NEON which our processors don't have. I haven't tried the alternatives (like vtalk our vtok, something like that) but they don't apparently work well. google has to fix it unless there's been a development I missed.
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Vtok has been working well with me. Gtalk mod works but with back camera.
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After the fiasco of 2.3.3, LG is never going to touch this phone ever again. It's dead in the water for all they care, and Tmo isn't going to pressure them into updating because they're focused on pimping the Sensation right now.
CyanogenMod is the only way this phone will ever see ICS, I would put money on that.
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Because of some impatient g2x owners.
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Because of some impatient g2x owners.
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No, because they don't know what the hell they are doing.
http://support.t-mobile.com/message/127344#127344
UPDATE on ICS rollout dates:
The Sensation 4G will not update in April. While I don't know with certainty when it is coming, I can tell you it will not be this month.
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UPDATE, most recent news is here. T-Mobile US testing is complete. OTA soon to come.
Update: T-Mobile confirms the Update will be available starting on Wednesday 5/16/2012.
Update: A flashable zip version of the T-Mobile Stock ICS OTA is already available here on XDA. Thanks to Paten for finding the thread and of course thanks to Steve0007 for making it available to the XDA community.
Update: WiFi Calling Mod ripped right from the T-Mobile ICS OTA is now up!
Update: Confirmation someone has received the official OTA.
No Big News...
No big news here. I think we already knew that it wasn't going to happen. And all because of a new phone that is severely crippled, the One S.
Once again, if you want ICS bad enough study and learn the fine art of rooting your phone and pulling a custom rom. Plenty of them out there!
http://www.tmonews.com/2012/04/t-mo...ors-says-no-sensation-4g-ics-update-in-april/
From The Article on TMONEWS: "If T-Mobile could have releases the Sensation update already, they would have. Trust me."
Ummm when I hear trust me, I want to check and make sure my wallet is in my back pocket, my watch is still on my wrist and my fillings are still in my mouth.
Oh yea and Marketing has no control... MY ASS it doesn't!
You can root and go back to stock with s on with ease, yet everyone still complains. Makes no sense to me. ARHD is pretty much stock and works perfectly. All of the T mobile stuff works flawlessly for me on my US 4G which leads me to my next point. T-Mobile US is definitely holding the release back waiting for the One to launch. Its their choice though.
Root and be happy. After all, this site is here for that sole purpose. Don't get why people are pissed off yet still holding out on rooting, when all of the tools are here for them. Its such a simple process!
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You can root and go back to stock with s on with ease, yet everyone still complains. Makes no sense to me. ARHD is pretty much stock and works perfectly. All of the T mobile stuff works flawlessly for me on my US 4G which leads me to my next point. T-Mobile US is definitely holding the release back waiting for the One to launch. Its their choice though.
Root and be happy. After all, this site is here for that sole purpose. Don't get why people are pissed off yet still holding out on rooting, when all of the tools are here for them. Its such a simple process!
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Agreed!
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No big news here. I think we already knew that it wasn't going to happen. And all because of a new phone that is severely crippled, the One S.
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You're just wrong, but whatever...
crisisinthecity said:
You can root and go back to stock with s on with ease, yet everyone still complains. Makes no sense to me. ARHD is pretty much stock and works perfectly. All of the T mobile stuff works flawlessly for me on my US 4G which leads me to my next point. T-Mobile US is definitely holding the release back waiting for the One to launch. Its their choice though.
Root and be happy. After all, this site is here for that sole purpose. Don't get why people are pissed off yet still holding out on rooting, when all of the tools are here for them. Its such a simple process!
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As if it can't be more likely that T-Mobile sent the buggy ICS update back. We already know HTC just released a patch for it. So even HTC is not trying to proclaim the first ICS release was perfect.
The Sensation is on EOL with T-Mobile, they want the last update to be good enough to walk away from. Not have to deal with complaints and another later OTA patch.
The T-Mobile update matters, because that could be why we got a patch from HTC so quickly. Also, there's no telling if the T-Mobile edition might have other updates.
Yea, we're all running custom ROMs already, so no big deal there is a delay. But just the same, the topic is worth keeping an eye on.
Wrong is a state of mind...
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You're just wrong, but whatever...
How Am I Wrong? This is not the first time something like this has happened, and it won't be the last time either. In addition, the One S is crippled... No removable battery and no SD card slot... I call that crippled.
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Darnell_Chat_TN said:
You're just wrong, but whatever...
As if it can't be more likely that T-Mobile sent the buggy ICS update back. We already know HTC just released a patch for it. So even HTC is not trying to proclaim the first ICS release was perfect.
The Sensation is on EOL with T-Mobile, they want the last update to be good enough to walk away from. Not have to deal with complaints and another later OTA patch.
The T-Mobile update matters, because that could be why we got a patch from HTC so quickly. Also, there's no telling if the T-Mobile edition might have other updates.
Yea, we're all running custom ROMs already, so no big deal there is a delay. But just the same, the topic is worth keeping an eye on.
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Agreed. Just sick of reading post after post of furious people waiting on this ota. Why be mad when there is a simple solution? Don't get it.
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I have T-Mobile USA as well and I'm enjoying ICS with Sense 4.0 with not a problem at all. You guys waiting on the OTA is just waiting for something u could of had MONTHS ago and honestly I feel its gonna b a letdown anyways because it probably wont even run as smooth as these roms our wonderful devs provide us
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crisisinthecity said:
Agreed. Just sick of reading post after post of furious people waiting on this ota. Why be mad when there is a simple solution? Don't get it.
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I am not mad, nor would I be over something like this. I could care less if TMO craps out tomorrow. I am just stating the obvious, sorry if no one else can see that...
At Tatdude806, I agree with you. Wrong is a state of mind.
Now about the post that page of the T-Mobile forum thread. I for one was not expecting the update this month. To be honest if it gets pushed middle to late next month it will suprise me. But thanks for the info Darnell_Chat_TN.
Last if anyone thinks T-Mobile does not want to compromise any potential profits for the HTC One S by updating the HTC Sensation 4G too early. Well let me tell you, start thinking it cause it is no doubt in my mind it is. Yes Marketing may actually have no control over a software update, but profits do. Meaning if the higher ups in the T-Mobile corperate offices see it as a potential damaging factor to possible profits of the release of HTC's New flag ship device..
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I am not mad, nor would I be over something like this. I could care less if TMO craps out tomorrow. I am just stating the obvious, sorry if no one else can see that...
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Wasn't aimed at you at all dude. You weren't complaining.
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Honestly I couldn't even imagine being stock waiting for a half assed ota TBH... Root your phone and give your self a better experience! just my two cents.
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ddizzy81 said:
I have T-Mobile USA as well and I'm enjoying ICS with Sense 4.0 with not a problem at all. You guys waiting on the OTA is just waiting for something u could of had MONTHS ago and honestly I feel its gonna b a letdown anyways because it probably wont even run as smooth as these roms our wonderful devs provide us
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True true wahahah let them wait lol we are having fun
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I'm sorry to hear it, though not really surprised. The vagaries of quality assurance between two companies makes it pretty inevitable that it would much longer than normal.
Though disappointing, I'd rather have a quality build with no errors - particularly in the trouble-some wifi calling app - than get a stock build that has to be patched ad nauseum.
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You can root and go back to stock with s on with ease, yet everyone still complains. Makes no sense to me. ARHD is pretty much stock and works perfectly. All of the T mobile stuff works flawlessly for me on my US 4G which leads me to my next point. T-Mobile US is definitely holding the release back waiting for the One to launch. Its their choice though.
Root and be happy. After all, this site is here for that sole purpose. Don't get why people are pissed off yet still holding out on rooting, when all of the tools are here for them. Its such a simple process!
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Not quite everything is in the ARHD release. I really miss the original swype keyboard from the stock rom. Maybe it could be added after ICS release by TMOUS, because I tried the swype beta, and did not like it as much as the original.
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Not quite everything is in the ARHD release. I really miss the original swype keyboard from the stock rom. Maybe it could be added after ICS release by TMOUS, because I tried the swype beta, and did not like it as much as the original.
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I totally agree and want to see some ROMs based on the official US update when it comes out.
I'm just saying its crazy to let yourself actually get upset about it when you can get a fully functional ICS Rom loaded on your phone with ease.
As far as the peeps who need WiFi calling to work, (we are all adults here for the most part), use GB until the official ota drops and stop complaining. We are 100% certain it is in the works. GB works perfectly fine until then.
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Restoring Stock
To those of you that are saying it is a relatively simple matter to restore the phone to stock and S-On if you want following an ICS upgrade, am I wrong that to be left with the impression from what I've read that it is actually somewhat risky to roll back from ICS on the Sensation to the stock GB. Maybe I'm misinterpreting what I've seen, but the feeling I have is that yes it is pretty easy to upgrade to ICS, but that the firmware upgrade required to get ICS is difficult to undo if you want to rollback to the T-Mobile stock GB Rom.
This doesn't surprise me...tipical T-Mobile slowness!
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To those of you that are saying it is a relatively simple matter to restore the phone to stock and S-On if you want following an ICS upgrade, am I wrong that to be left with the impression from what I've read that it is actually somewhat risky to roll back from ICS on the Sensation to the stock GB. Maybe I'm misinterpreting what I've seen, but the feeling I have is that yes it is pretty easy to upgrade to ICS, but that the firmware upgrade required to get ICS is difficult to undo if you want to rollback to the T-Mobile stock GB Rom.
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In short, yes, you are wrong. If you are s-off rolling back software/firmware is simple and no more risky than it was to flash non-US ICS firmware and radio! Yes there is risk involved, but that same risk was there when flashing ICS so why worry now if you weren't worried before?
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To those of you that are saying it is a relatively simple matter to restore the phone to stock and S-On if you want following an ICS upgrade, am I wrong that to be left with the impression from what I've read that it is actually somewhat risky to roll back from ICS on the Sensation to the stock GB. Maybe I'm misinterpreting what I've seen, but the feeling I have is that yes it is pretty easy to upgrade to ICS, but that the firmware upgrade required to get ICS is difficult to undo if you want to rollback to the T-Mobile stock GB Rom.
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I've done it 4 times in the past two days... Just don't loose power in the middle of a radio flash...
T-Mobile has had leaked ICS Roms for both HTC devices running Sense 3.0. The Sensation 4G, and Amaze 4G. Most people felt like the Amaze would never get the 3.6 Update. But now they have a leaked RUU, bloat and all. Now that a good number of Sense 3.0 devices have an ICS update. I think it's time for the Doubleshot to get a ICS update. The Gingerbread RUU was leaked before this phone came out. I'm sure Football will manage to get a leaked Rom. We have all the proper specs, and I know we have 1 Million plus ICS Update threads. But with all the new updates, come on. It's about time.
Fail Xo I posted in the wroung Section! Mods, please move this thread. I'm sick right now, didn't know what I did.
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I sure hope you're right about this one...
Our phone will literally rocket off for development
Ya... But I just don't see any signs that T-Mobile or HTC is going to release a ROM like that for our phone. Hopefully they do tho!
Typed by ---- oh wait! I'm schizophrenic!
Either way, we've been making stunning progress even without an official update.
Have you checked out the sticky on ICS configuration tree in the dev section?
That's some great progress
I encourage anyone who knows anything dev to pop in and see if they can help. It will make cooking roms much easier and also greatly increase our chances of CM support.
aad4321 said:
think again, i can say that there WILL NOT be an official release of ICS, EVER for the MT4GS
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And your basis for this assumption?
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rawdaddymagraden said:
And your basis for this assumption?
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There is no definitive word either way yet...so everything is an assumption
rawdaddymagraden said:
And your basis for this assumption?
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Undeadk9 was claiming that he knew a "level 3" tech support at T-Mobile who told him there would not be any ICS for MT4GS. I heard all that sort of crap back when I had a Moto Cliq and the MT3GS, some "friend" in "tech support" telling bullsh*t. No doubt there is a friend, but believing that friend has information that nobody else has is very unrealistic.
T-Mobile updated even the ancient original MyTouch from 1.6 all the way to Froyo 2.2. I don't see them completely abandoning this phone, especially since the hardware is so similar to their other models like the Amaze 4G and Sensation 4G. HTC would only need to incorporate the Genius system.
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... reports of this phone being end of life'd very shortly, you can almost garentee they have no interest in updating this phone to ICS. Watch and see, it happens with almost all their phones.
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You just confirmed that you really don't know sh*t. EOL has no bearing on whether a phone receives an update. T-Mobile has updated many phones long after they went EOL in their system. The entire MyTouch lineup, including the original, got updated to Froyo within a few months of each other, LOOOOOOONG after they had all gone EOL.
And what's the crap about no development on this phone? You can't be taken seriously spewing crap like that. Look around, dude. Here and Virtuous are full of dev for this phone.
gtmaster303 said:
Official update or not, we already have a lot of stable ICS roms (primadonna, Inquisition, AOKP, insert whatever you please here). And the few kinks are just a matter of time
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I have to interject here. STABLE ROMs? Are you insane?
I'm sorry but MMS and Bluetooth not working (to name a few of your "kinks") is a pretty f**king big deal. I would never call that stable.
And the closest to stable is DeSensed, which is ridiculous considering imitation widgets are GARBAGE in comparison.
Let's remember: Virtuous sets the standard for "stable". Period. Don't get me wrong, the developer community is great and I have appreciated them very much so over the years. But don't go branding their work to save your argument.
I hope that an official ICS update comes, but I doubt it. With the 3G slide, at least they kept telling everyone that an update was coming and it eventually came. Not the same case here.
Wow ..... I love xda and all these stable roms. These guys do a hell of a job. Dont let people get ya down we love all the devs here.... Im running premadonna right now and its quite stable
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I'm sorry but MMS and Bluetooth not working (to name a few of your "kinks")
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Don't know what rom you are talking about MMS and Bluetooth, but Primadonna has MMS, Bluetooth and almost everything else working for me. The main feature it doesn't have is tethering, but Opengarden and Barnacle does the trick on that too...
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I have to interject here. STABLE ROMs? Are you insane?
I'm sorry but MMS and Bluetooth not working (to name a few of your "kinks") is a pretty f**king big deal. I would never call that stable.
And the closest to stable is DeSensed, which is ridiculous considering imitation widgets are GARBAGE in comparison.
Let's remember: Virtuous sets the standard for "stable". Period. Don't get me wrong, the developer community is great and I have appreciated them very much so over the years. But don't go branding their work to save your argument.
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I threw AOKP in the mix by mistake. Either way, you're missing the point. There are stable (DEFINE: something I can use daily, with features I won't miss - obviously that differs from person to person) ICS roms out there. And if something like autobrightness isn't working, and that's what got you in a hunch, then you need to stick to the stock rom. Honestly I could care less about little quibbles like that.
My point is 95% of what you would need, even on a daily basis is working. And for some roms, it's even more than that. That's pretty outstanding considering we don't even have an official kernel or update.
Honestly, this thread has spiraled into a pointless opinion thread.
I refrain from posting any further.
You may think what you wish
I keep seeing people on here saying "phones with sense 3.0". I hope yall realize that we don't even have a real version of Sense.. its a Rosie/Doubleshot version. I don't see HTC modifying/myTouching the new version of sense and ICS for the doubleshot.
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I am sticking with it and telling you that you will not see ICS for the MyTouch 4G Slide as an official T-Mobile USA Release.
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Which is simply your uninformed and unknowing opinion, no more credible than anyone which differs. You claimed to have "inside information", which is pure bullsh*t.
I hope so. None of the custom ICS ROMs are stable, always several things missing or not working that prevent me from using it long term and those ROMs havent been updated in over a month.
Like I've said in several ics threads like this, the mytouch 4g will not receive ics.
Reason being, the mt4g has T-Mobile's sense version(my sense). For the mytouch 4g to be able to receive ics, T-Mobile would have to get rid of their mysense version of sense which they won't do on a T-Mobile specific device or HTC would have to create 2 versions of ics, one compatible with mytouch 4g's mysense and a regular ics for the rest of the devices.
You guys also gotta realize we didn't even receive a sense 3.0 update.
U all keep forgetting that HTC rebranded the phone in canada to the HTC Panache...
So its not only a MYSENSE Tmobile phone
so it is possible that other carriers in canada request that ICS gets on this phone
thats my 2 cents on this subject
tradeware said:
U all keep forgetting that HTC rebranded the phone in canada to the HTC Panache...
So its not only a MYSENSE Tmobile phone
so it is possible that other carriers in canada request that ICS gets on this phone
thats my 2 cents on this subject
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yea i was thinking about that.. maybe the panache version will get the update
i hope so, but honestly i doubt it because i dont think there are many panache users here most would have went with the amaze or galaxy nexus
tradeware said:
U all keep forgetting that HTC rebranded the phone in canada to the HTC Panache...
So its not only a MYSENSE Tmobile phone
so it is possible that other carriers in canada request that ICS gets on this phone
thats my 2 cents on this subject
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Exactly, in Canada. If my memory serves me rights, they didn't even receive android 2.3.4.
But lets say he Canadian version of the mytouch receives ics, the US T-Mobile won't. Again same reason, panache=sense/T-Mobile mytouch 4g=mysense.
And away we go!
htcdev: Kernel source code for the HTC One S has been uploaded: http://t.co/oWFTzI51
very nicee
I'm putting an overclockable kernel from source together tonight.
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Can't wait to try it out!
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oooohhhh yheaaaa!! Gooo modding goooo!!
Woooo
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Hah! I wonder if it has anything to do with the e-mail I sent to Peter Chou (htc's CEO) regarding their blatant disregard for GPL rules and continued dishonesty with the community? I'd like to think it was. I'll just pretend for the moment that I made it happen (lol, somehow I doubt it).
I called them on their BS on claiming that the community agreed that 90-120 days was acceptable.
Without a real kernel dev this isn't much worth, in the one x forum's are still not stable and there are real pro's.
Let's see..
I'm pretty sure I know why they waited. Today was the beginning of the update for the One S on T-Mobile US. If I'm not mistaken, T-Mobile's One S is the last one to get the radio and software update to match the rest of the One S devices. So it sort of makes sense, they didn't release the kernel sources until after the update was ready. I, personally, am not bothered cuz I just got my One S today, but I can completely understand the frustration for the 1st day buyers on T-Mo, and the global versions, since you guys have been waiting months now, it would seem. Either way, It's here now, and that means we all will get to reap the benefits. Now, where's my OTA already? LOL
Couldn't see U.S. listed in there.
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I'm pretty sure I know why they waited. Today was the beginning of the update for the One S on T-Mobile US. If I'm not mistaken, T-Mobile's One S is the last one to get the radio and software update to match the rest of the One S devices. So it sort of makes sense, they didn't release the kernel sources until after the update was ready. I, personally, am not bothered cuz I just got my One S today, but I can completely understand the frustration for the 1st day buyers on T-Mo, and the global versions, since you guys have been waiting months now, it would seem. Either way, It's here now, and that means we all will get to reap the benefits. Now, where's my OTA already? LOL
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I was thinking the same thing. Makes sense
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Without a real kernel dev this isn't much worth, in the one x forum's are still not stable and there are real pro's.
Let's see..
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True...should we start a pool to buy a 1S for a recognized developer?
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flamingblue8z said:
I'm pretty sure I know why they waited. Today was the beginning of the update for the One S on T-Mobile US. If I'm not mistaken, T-Mobile's One S is the last one to get the radio and software update to match the rest of the One S devices. So it sort of makes sense, they didn't release the kernel sources until after the update was ready. I, personally, am not bothered cuz I just got my One S today, but I can completely understand the frustration for the 1st day buyers on T-Mo, and the global versions, since you guys have been waiting months now, it would seem. Either way, It's here now, and that means we all will get to reap the benefits. Now, where's my OTA already? LOL
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While it does seem that HTC waited for the update to release the source... It's unfortunate that they didn't include the source for the US Tmobile version yet.... This probably won't be an issue since most run EU roms anyways(AOKP for me)... The One X for At&t is still waiting for source... As torxx mentioned source means nothing without someone to develop a kernel... Hopefully we will see something on the horizon sooner rather than later
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About time. HTC have dragged their heels for far too long.
Excited for all the new kernels.
Where is ProTekk??
Wohooo! Time to get building! If we're lucky, we can get CM9 running perfectly now. *Gets on it*
Does this mean aokp/cm9 roms will work better? Or better yet will they be able to be completed with working camcorder etc.?
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It's great to see that HTC is releasing kernel source code for devices even if they aren't releasing it for other devices, such as the HTC amaze 4G.
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S4 source should be fairly stable. I should have a kernel built for you guys later tonight. One x tegra source was a mess which is why tegra is taking awhile.
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ridearoundsolo said:
Does this mean aokp/cm9 roms will work better? Or better yet will they be able to be completed with working camcorder etc.?
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Yep. Should open the door to fix that remaining issue.
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ozzie1p said:
Couldn't see U.S. listed in there.
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I just noticed that myself. Seems odd. Maybe someone can find out what version the kernel is and compare it to the sources already posted. It seems, however, that this 1.84 update hasn't hit any XDA members yet, since I haven't seen anyone on here post that they received it yet. I saw a lot of talk about an unlocked bootloader being enough to prevent an update from being performed, but I think it's all rumor. I could be wrong though. I have yet to unlock the bootloader & root, because I'm waiting to find out what issues I will run into later. For instance, this Tampered banner sort of has me worried. Plus, re-locking the device has its own separate banner from Locked? Has me really concerned about any potential warranty exchanges in the future, should my device need one. Hopefully this all gets sorted out. I'm really liking Sense, this is my first time using it, and fortunately I got a slimmed down version, vs. 3.x & older. But I do have an itch to go back to some AOSP ICS like I had going on my G2x last month. Either way, I haven't even signed into my Google account yet, and I've had the phone about 7 hours now. There's plenty to do without needing to enter my Google credentials.