Rsap possible on sensation? - HTC Sensation

Hello sensation owners,
I've got this amazing pioneer x3 with nav and bluetooth. Now the two are paired and the a2dp profile is running awesome, but there is one thing. I cant get the phonebook paired with my carkit.
I've study it last week and I know that
The sensation isn't supported by www.android-rsap.com
Hope this will be fixed. I've tried bluetooth file transport to send a vcard but no succes.
sent with unbranded htc sensation stock rom not rooted.

bmwsensation said:
Hello sensation owners,
I've got this amazing pioneer x3 with nav and bluetooth. Now the two are paired and the a2dp profile is running awesome, but there is one thing. I cant get the phonebook paired with my carkit.
I've study it last week and I know that
The sensation isn't supported by www.android-rsap.com
Hope this will be fixed. I've tried bluetooth file transport to send a vcard but no succes.
sent with unbranded htc sensation stock rom not rooted.
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Had a quick look and the sensation supports: http://www.htc.com/us/support/sensation4g-tmobile/help/bluetooth
The phone supports the following Bluetooth Profiles: A2DP, HID, HFP, AVRCP, PBAP, OPP, FTP, GAP, GOEP, HSP, MAP, SPP and SDAP profiles, as well as other standard profiles.
Can you not use PBAP ? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bluetooth_profile
Phone Book Access Profile (PBAP, PBA)
Phone Book Access (PBA)[5][6] or Phone Book Access Profile (PBAP) is a profile that allows exchange of Phone Book Objects between devices. It is likely to be used between a car kit and a mobile phone to:
allow the car kit to display the name of the incoming caller;
allow the car kit to download the phone book so the user can initiate a call from the car display.
SIM Access Profile (SAP, SIM, rSAP)
This allows devices such as car phones with built-in GSM transceivers to connect to a SIM card in a phone with Bluetooth, thus the car phone itself doesn't require a separate SIM card. This profile is also known as rSAP (remote-SIM-Access-Profile). More information on which phones are supported can be found here(German version only)
Does the Pioneer even have a built-in GSM receiver ? If I've read the info correctly the implication I took is that, rSAP allows a GSM enabled carkit to piggy back off the SIM in the phone. The car kit has to do all the GSM Transmit/Receive for the call and not the phone. I looked at some phones that support it and they're generally OLD ones, e.g. Nokia 6310i.

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Note: I know that there are bluetooth headset per se that may be paired with a PC, but I would like to know how to use my existing phone with this and understand whether this is technologically possible.
I am both interested in opportunities of bluetooth or wi-fi methods for connecting. In addition, you may supply info for software or hardware tools, but software fine tuning is preferred.
Thank you in advance for your assistance.
As far as I can clarify I want to use my mobile:
a) as a bluetooth connected headset
and
b) as a bluetooth connected microphone
Are those implemented in the bluetooth profiles which are running on my mobile phone? (or on any other phone).
In general it would be possible based on technology, hence there are bluetooth headsets with integrated microphones. But are the needed profile extensions on the bluetooth protocols implemented by the mobile phone vendors such as HTC?
In other words, is the protocol stack extended by the chip vendor of the bluetooth chip inside the HTC - probably not HTC itself? And is the protocol stack implemented into the operating system - Microsoft mobile 6.1 by either HTC or Microsoft?
i'd like this on my kaiser too..
just looking around still.

How can I force a specific bluetooth profile?

Hi all,
I am trying to use the factory bluetooth integration in my car, and from everything I've read, it requires SAP (or rSAP?) to work properly. I've never had trouble pairing to the bluetooth module, but the car still insists there is no phone.
After messing with it yesterday and installing SAPSettings, I can hear the speaker of the phone in the car's audio, but no microphone, and it still says "insert phone" in the car's phone menu as apposed to downloading the phone book and letting me dial on the screen.
The phone lists the SAP profile among many others, but if I go into the settings of the car's bluetooth connection, it only lets me choose "Hands Free", with an on/off checkbox. It seems like thats what it sensed was available from the car, and offers nothing else, but I'd like to force SAP instead.
Car: MB E-Class
Phone: Sprint HTC Touch
OS: WM 6.5
Thanks!
I'm going to put the official windows mobile 6.1 on it to see if it makes a difference.
bluetooth is a long list of various profiles
problem is that devices only need to implement 1 or 2 to call themselves
bluetooth devices and no if the maker of the bluetooth stack in both ends
didn't implement a profile you can't force it
I have this problem trying to get my HD to connect to my landrover freelander 2 hse. I can get it to connect to the phone, but cant get the call to play thru cars speakers.
Dont bother with winmo 6.1 or official rom, just doesnt work at then (cant connect).
Only way i can get it to work is with winmo 6.5 (manila 2.5) (profiles must have newer or more stable settings). Only thing i have to do then is to make a call (normally voicemail) turn privacy on, then off again and voila it plays thru speakers.
Downside is i have to do this everytime i start the engine.........
Now that probably doesnt help you much but you will probably find from your car manufacturer that you device is not supported with you cars handsfree bluetooth kit.
the only one fully compatible with the freelander 2 is................. an phone

interesting question possibley a stupid one

hello everyone i have question or maybe an idea for a talented dev i was wondering if it is possible to emulate a key fob (for a car alarm) using a windows mobile phone
Not the standard 433MHz transmitter.
But it would be possible to achieve similar with Bluetooth. Then you have to integrate a bluetooth receiver into your car alarm. Using serial communication you would then transmit lock/unlock commands. It would also be possible to auto-pair when in range and unlock the car automatically.
Slowmo said:
Not the standard 433MHz transmitter.
But it would be possible to achieve similar with Bluetooth. Then you have to integrate a bluetooth receiver into your car alarm. Using serial communication you would then transmit lock/unlock commands. It would also be possible to auto-pair when in range and unlock the car automatically.
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All thing are very "Techi" to me but if it possible then its defiantly proud to be WM user.
Anyway is it working with any other handsets...?
The Chevy Volt is suppossed to have an iPhone and BlackBerry app that will allow that, so yes its definitely possible. But their sollution may rely on 3G connectivity on both ends, I'm not sure.
" But their sollution may rely on 3G connectivity on both ends, I'm not sure."
if that is the case then the car would have to have a sim card too
otherwise you don't get a 3g connection more likely it's wifi based
In theory, you could use one of the phones with a USB port, with an adapter to 433 MHz to read in the pairing, then re-pair with a car.
But directly pair with a standard car-fob arrangement without additional hardware, no.

Bluetooth profile for SMS to car kit

Hi all
I have a bluetooth kar kit from Kufatec that, on some phones at least, is able to read SMS from the phone and display through its own interface in the car.
This works with my Nokia phone but not with my HTC Topaz. I guess it is missing a particular profile, but I have no idea which one. Any ideas?

Which Bluetooth Car Head Unit

Looking at getting a new Head Unit that is able to do hands free calls and streaming from the HTC Desire, but also connect up an Ipod discretely (ideally through a rear usb port). I would much rather it had a wired remote microphone rather than one in the head unit itself.
So, what have found to work with the Desire. Any info greatly appreciated.
I am currently looking at the following units if anyone has one:
Kenwood KDC-BT60U
Pioneer DEH-P7100BT
Pioneer DEH-600BT
Sony MEX-BT5700U
JVC KD-R901
I use a Parrot Kit with my original headunit and it works great with the desire. I've got the Parrot MKi9100 which as well as bluetooth for calls supports bluetooth audio streaming, 3.5mm input, usb input (can connect phone, choose usb drive and play music from the phone) and also an iPod input too
I have bought the JVC KD-R901 and am pleased with it.
Pairing and streaming works seamlessly. You don't get track names but that is the phone's fault, not the HU as it doesn't support it. I mainly listen to audiobooks or podcasts anyway so its not much of an issue.
Getting the phone book across was a bit more of a pain though. It would not do the auto sync so I had to do the following.
Using GMail contacts on the PC I selected all and exported as a VCF file. This created a single file onto the computer. I transferred this via dropbox to the root of the SD card on the phone.
Next I installed BlueX (Bluetooth file share) app onto the phone. I put the JVC Stereo into manual phonepook transfer mode and then initiated the transfer.
On the phone I ran BlueX and selected the VCF file with a long press and selected send via bluetooth. The next screen showed the stereo as JVC Unit (unclassified) and once selected the phonebook transferred in a matter of seconds.
I can now seen the listing in the phone. The only downside is new entries will need to be done manually, but given the whole phonebook can be exported and uploaded in about 5 minutes I am not too worried about that.
Hopefully this may be of use to others.
I have the Alpine CDE-103BT.
The phonebook synced correctly and calls can be made and received fine (both when I had the stock UK T-Mobile ROM and now with the Modaco Froyo ROM). Only thing that still won't work properly is voice dialling.
It has a wired mic, and iPod support is through a cable on the back of the unit. It also has front USB and line-in sockets, though I've never used them for music as I always have my iPod with me.
Hope this helps!
Cheers,
Bryan.
If you are on a budget like I was and don't mind something that works well but doesn't offer much for features, the Sony BT2800 isn't a bad purchase. I got it at some electronics website for $135 with free shipping, mounting kit and wire harness. Phone calls sound good, the caller can hear me well, music streamed sounds good and it's easy to setup/use. Display doesn't show caller ID (at least not on my TP2 and Desire), and no phonebook support. Also, the desire does not support voice activation through it (my tp2 it worked great) so not having phone book support is inconvenient but this is the Desires fault, not the radios. Overall, it does what I need it to and it was not expensive. A good bluetooth headset sells for about the same at retail.
Pioneer DEH-600BT
I do car audio installs on the side of my actual job and most of the peoples are I install stuff, are happy that I told them to go with Pioneer, because of the sound quality and functionality for price. iv had people install Sony and other brands and pioneer is unmatched right below them to me is Alpine but personally i think the products are over priced
if you have any other questions feel free to PM me
I'm very happy with my Parrot MKi9100 as well.
Jvc is a pile of %%#% my avx44 which cost £400 broke just a month out of warranty and they refused to fix it.
pioneer definately. i use one with my desire via bluetooth for calls and music and has ipod wired up to glove box. downloads phonebook from phone and show ipod music the same way it is set up on ipod
jjkshaughnessy said:
pioneer definately. i use one with my desire via bluetooth for calls and music and has ipod wired up to glove box. downloads phonebook from phone and show ipod music the same way it is set up on ipod
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Which unit did you get?
I've got a Kenwood BT-60U and it works quite nicely now.
Adressbook sync works, although there some strange entries in the HU and you can not choose a letter to begin you search with (well, you can but it always starts at A).
With 2.1 (or a Sense rom - I'm not sure if 2.2 or a AOSP rom made the difference) I always had connection losses.
I use it only to have a hands free car kit and for that purpose it works well enough - the sound quality is okay and its nicely integrated with e.g. USB playback (basically I can charge my Desire & listen to music from SD while having BT handsfree on )
Parrot Mki9000 here, its a deadly combination with upgradable software - unlike HUs.
Plus a wireless remote which I can mount anywhere and remove for security.
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Which unit did you get?
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mine was the older deh 500bt unit. also has 3 separate outputs so upgrading speaker equipment is a doddle.
On a budget?
Wharfedale ICS182
£49.99 from Argos, I got mine for £32 of ebay!
Bluetooth hands free, USB, SD Card, CD Player, its great and works brilliantly with the Desire, sound quality is great and better than the JVC unit I took out. Hands free works great and no one has a problem hearing me even if I talk low.
Just checked mine agin and realised i gave you the wrong model number mine is the pioneer deh p800bt. excellent bit of kit.
I have a Pioneer DEH-P75BT, but can not get it to connect my Desire automatically, can anyone help?
pnyg
pnyg said:
I have a Pioneer DEH-P75BT, but can not get it to connect my Desire automatically, can anyone help?
pnyg
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if you used to have another phone connected disconnect it and clear the phone book memory. then go through the reconnection process. after this ensure that automatic connection is turned on on the head unit. turn car off and blutetooth on the phone on. then turn the car back on with the stereo. leave for a few seconds and the switch to the phone setting on stereo. if still not connected leave for about a minute to see if it works.
i had to try a few times but after it connected once automatically it worked perfectly. also you could try setting it all ready for the automatic connection and then making a call. i find this helps if music streaming doesnt connect. just hit play and then all of a sudden bluetooth kicks in.

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