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Why is no one porting MotoBlur and Pulse to the Sapphire MT3G? Why is everyone so stuck on Hero?
There HAVE been blur ports in the past. Do a little research before you make generalized statements. And Hero is more popular because it already came off an HTC device. It's easier to cook.
Please do just a little research before creating a new topic!
now the real question is why we dont see these for the 32a
Moto Blur & Pulse
Question, and maybe someone can direct me where to find it but whats the difference between Pulse, and Motoblur?
Polaris and Ronni... I did research before posting and found only one pulse rom and 3 motoblur roms compared to the hundreds of hero roms. My post was simple and just a question. Why? That was all. If I was a youngster with no forum know how, then your down talking would be understood. Thanks anyway.
zeroplace said:
Polaris and Ronni... I did research before posting and found only one pulse rom and 3 motoblur roms compared to the hundreds of hero roms. My post was simple and just a question. Why? That was all. If I was a youngster with no forum know how, then your down talking would be understood. Thanks anyway.
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Sorry but your post "Why is no one porting MotoBlur and Pulse to the Sapphire MT3G?" makes it seem like you didn't research at all. Like polaris0352 wrote is that Hero is easier to cook plus it's more popular. But i hope it won't be long before we start to see more non-htc roms for our magics!
I think part of the reason is that GPS and WiFi don't work, which means the uptake is a lot less. Once WiFi and GPS are working (which apparently won't happen until Dragon is available) then I'd bet more ports of these roms will start to appear. I like Blur and would make it my permanent rom if the wireless wasn't an issue.
ronni.rasmussen said:
Sorry but your post "Why is no one porting MotoBlur and Pulse to the Sapphire MT3G?" makes it seem like you didn't research at all. Like polaris0352 wrote is that Hero is easier to cook plus it's more popular. But i hope it won't be long before we start to see more non-htc roms for our magics!
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because hero comes from an HTC phone wich would lead one to believe it would be much easier to run on our HTC phones...
motoblur was alright didnt like the feel and its hard to make moto and HTC play nice
Pulse....welll.... i think pulse sucked others like it though
I know there are at least 3 pulse roms that are decent and there are 2-3 blur roms that run enough to use
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now the real question is why we dont see these for the 32a
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I've created 32A porting packages for both Pulse and MotoBlur ROM some time ago.
TomasTrek said:
I think part of the reason is that GPS and WiFi don't work, which means the uptake is a lot less. Once WiFi and GPS are working (which apparently won't happen until Dragon is available) then I'd bet more ports of these roms will start to appear. I like Blur and would make it my permanent rom if the wireless wasn't an issue.
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Im running a Blur Rom that WiFi is working on but there were no instructions on partition setup, if any. It is real smooth but when I put my own wallpaper on, it seems to slow down a bit.
zeroplace said:
Im running a Blur Rom that WiFi is working on but there were no instructions on partition setup, if any. It is real smooth but when I put my own wallpaper on, it seems to slow down a bit.
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is it for 32a??
if yes provide me the link
thx
zeroplace said:
Im running a Blur Rom that WiFi is working on but there were no instructions on partition setup, if any. It is real smooth but when I put my own wallpaper on, it seems to slow down a bit.
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Can you Post a Link to the WiFi working Blur?
I've not seen any Blur with WiFi working at all due to the Kernel requirements.
I will have to find the link for you guys. The Rom is running on my MT3G 32B Rooted. Im going to assume that the WiFi works for that Im using WiFi Tether to connect to the internet with my laptop as I type. I will get a link after while. The file name is MotoCliq_v0.5.zip. I think Drizzy put it out. Not for certain though.
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I will have to find the link for you guys. The Rom is running on my MT3G 32B Rooted. Im going to assume that the WiFi works for that Im using WiFi Tether to connect to the internet with my laptop as I type. I will get a link after while. The file name is MotoCliq_v0.5.zip. I think Drizzy put it out. Not for certain though.
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32B here? http://htcpedia.com/forum/showthread.php?t=916
32A here? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=569329&page=5
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32B here? http://htcpedia.com/forum/showthread.php?t=916
32A here? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=569329&page=5
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The reason for the lack of ports is honestly the firmware being so tied to social aspects. All the "cool" features are in the UI with the social stuff, but the rest of the firmware... well... sucks. I ported both and got bored in a couple days. Hero has new dumps and new versions of sense and the prospect of updating to 1.6 and eventually 2.0 These are done. One dump, one version, no projected future. Not much room to grow. Hero has all the features this does and then some, with the exception of universal inbox and the way launcher reacts. Pulse isnt really much of a ROM, either. Its just a cool UI and a bunch of paid apps put together into a firmware.
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The reason for the lack of ports is honestly the firmware being so tied to social aspects. All the "cool" features are in the UI with the social stuff, but the rest of the firmware... well... sucks. I ported both and got bored in a couple days. Hero has new dumps and new versions of sense and the prospect of updating to 1.6 and eventually 2.0 These are done. One dump, one version, no projected future. Not much room to grow. Hero has all the features this does and then some, with the exception of universal inbox and the way launcher reacts. Pulse isnt really much of a ROM, either. Its just a cool UI and a bunch of paid apps put together into a firmware.
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I hear ya. I just get tired of looking at the same bottom bar and out of all the times I try to ask for help, no one wants to share on how to get started making my own with my own look. I have seen a hero rom with a somewhat Pulse bottom bar and it looked killer but the slowness of the rom was not bareable.
I actually flashed the new Andriod 2.0 Eclair to my phone. It is a stripped down Rom and has nothing in it but MAN do I like the lock screen and menu play. Very nice, clean and cool. I wish I had Eclair with a MotoBlur look and feel and Hero internals. I do like Blur's social widgets. Nice!
so one thing ive noticed is this app missing in all the new roms any ideas
No one will be completely happy with what they have...
Dude, its a 2.1 ROM for a device thats supposed to only be working with 1.5 for now. Just be glad we have it working close to 100%.
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No one will be completely happy with what they have...
Dude, its a 2.1 ROM for a device thats supposed to only be working with 1.5 for now. Just be glad we have it working close to 100%.
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it was simple question no need to be a freaking jerk
Then no. Simple answer.
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so one thing ive noticed is this app missing in all the new roms any ideas
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Is there some reason you don't just install whatever you think is missing?
it was a simple question that's all no need to get your panty's in a bunch you must be one of the people who want's everything for free and won't donate you must like obama to lol. i was just curios as to why it was missin thats all if it's not out it's not out no biggie
you should just install it if you think it is missing, and while you are at it make a new rom for the rest of us
i've looked around and can't find the apk anywhere
nbroneobi said:
it was a simple question that's all no need to get your panty's in a bunch you must be one of the people who want's everything for free and won't donate you must like obama to lol. i was just curios as to why it was missin thats all if it's not out it's not out no biggie
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What does (not) donating and liking Obama have to do with a ROM? Here is what I did. I took the base ROM, took out what I don't use, put in what I did use, and re-signed it to make my own custom ROM. The instructions are on this very forum. I suggest you try it.
I am not sure why this is not included in any of the 2.1 Roms it was in the leaked desire Rom that modaco ported to the nexus one.
I have already tried installing this to the Eris 2.1 and to the new Fresh 2.1 and it just FC's upon being started.
I am looking into why it does that but as of right now I have no idea.
I could be wrong on this but I am pretty sure that friendstream is part of the updated Sense that HTC is working on not an Android app. So this won't be out until we can get the new Sense working which I don't think anyone has had any luck with.
oops, wrong thread.
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I could be wrong on this but I am pretty sure that friendstream is part of the updated Sense that HTC is working on not an Android app. So this won't be out until we can get the new Sense working which I don't think anyone has had any luck with.
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We have a version of the new sense already. Modaco ported the Desire Rom to the Nexus one that has working FriendStream and NewsReader
I am not sure what is causing them not to work as of yet.
my guess is that this is the reason why the "get more HTC widgets" thing doesn't work. maybe the friendstream and news widgets can be downloaded once they get the support for verizon customers ready.
I don't know if this as already been requested or not (and before you start flamming me, I did search).
I want to ask the cook community if it's possible to release and apk of the sense ui for the official 1.6 rom (I know I could just flash a new rom, but I don't have the expertise to do it by myself).
My reasoning for making this request is the following.
If it's possible to include the Sense in several roms, them it should be possible to create an .apk to install it, like when you install htc home screen on windows mobile pocket pc.
thanks for reading.
p.s. unless you have something useful to add, no waste your time and the forum resources just to say, for example, "it can't be done" if you are not a developer.
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I want to ask the cook community if it's possible to release and apk of the sense ui for the official 1.6 rom (I know I could just flash a new rom, but I don't have the expertise to do it by myself).
p.s. unless you have something useful to add, no waste your time and the forum resources just to say, for example, "it can't be done" if you are not a developer.
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How is saying "it can't be done" not useful? That's like me asking someone to make my magic faster than a computer! Is that possible? Probably not and I think it'd be nice (if I actually thought it could happen) if someone informed me that it's not possible.
I'm not a dev, but I think I can come up with reasonable answers for your question.
Since you aren't even able to flash a new rom (which requires pressing about 5 buttons after root, I don't know how you're not able to do that?), I'm assuming you know almost nothing and I thought it'd be a good idea to inform you, that something like this would be a waste of time and almost impossible. so, it can't really be done. Installing an APK file goes into your system/app or data/app. The sense ui has a freak ton of APK files along with it so installing just 1 apk file well (in my opinion) would not work out well at all. I believe there are also these odex files or whatever (I don't know much about them) but if I'm correct, those will also cause more problems. I belive that the original sense ui has a bunch of apk files in the system/app/ folder and people here even have issues porting out stuff from it, so good luck getting the whole thing out into an APK file on an unrooted phone.
It makes no sense to do this when we could just flash a rom.
Maybe someone could do something like the dxtop or GDE or w/e but that stuff lags like crazy and would probably be missing a lot of things from sense ui. Sense UI is nice and smooth, but already has some lag. It would be horrible and totally a bad idea imo.
Oh and one last thing, it's being done on the 2.1 right now. Why go back to 1.6
I find it ironic that you complain not to waste time and to not post something like "it can't be done." I could've just said that instead of explaining it to you but whatever, I could be wrong. I doubt you understood anything anyways and I think you sort of wasted the time of whoever read this because you didn't do enough research. But if someone can actually do this! Then I'm sorry for wasting your time. But I doubt it.
Whoevers going to do this, good luck lol.
I almost forgot to mention, There's like 1 sense ui rom for 32b. If it was easy, there would be more. Sooo since you're requesting this for 32B, I'm pretty sure.. it's not possible
My friend your response was more than useful. Finally someone explain it like I was (which I am) a complete noob.
As for your strangeness on my inability to install a custom rom, well, let me put it this way, I don't understand half of the steps to get the phone rooted, the right spl, radio and so on... In fact, the only flaw I have to point to the xda-community is that most, if not all, simply assume that everyone knows the "technical" terms by heart, which is not true. And you my friend (allow me to call you that) just made me an huge favor, by putting it in very simple and plain terms.
I'm surprised you found it useful lol, I thought you'd find it more confusing.
The only way you'll really understand and learn it is to do it. For starters, do not touch your Hboot/SPL and Radio. That's the main reason people brick. For example, some people think it's a good idea to erase their Hboot and then reboot the phone. I don't know why, but as long as you don't touch the things which have high risk, you'll be fine. Just follow instructions and play with it (It will consume a lot of time though). Another advice is to get a recovery image on your phone first. Otherwise, you'll encounter a soft brick which may be a pain in the ass
sense for 1.6... i dont think its possible... but there is a tattoo rom out there if u look for it in the g1/dream forum... that is 1.6 with sense ui
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sense for 1.6... i dont think its possible... but there is a tattoo rom out there if u look for it in the g1/dream forum... that is 1.6 with sense ui
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normally i don't do this but i don't honestly think you have any idea what you 're talking about.
Sense was first run on 1.5 under the old hero framework last summer. The Droid Eris and Sprint Hero still haven't undergone OTA updates and are still running on 1.5 it was htc's decision to bypass 1.6 altogether.
So having said that, its possible if someone were to take the time to wade through HTC's garble and put it on a 1.6 OS, but why do that when eclair is out???
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My friend your response was more than useful. Finally someone explain it like I was (which I am) a complete noob.
As for your strangeness on my inability to install a custom rom, well, let me put it this way, I don't understand half of the steps to get the phone rooted, the right spl, radio and so on... In fact, the only flaw I have to point to the xda-community is that most, if not all, simply assume that everyone knows the "technical" terms by heart, which is not true. And you my friend (allow me to call you that) just made me an huge favor, by putting it in very simple and plain terms.
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Rooting a rom is a big step but an easy step. Let me tell you the best place to begin sort of a precursor before you come to XDA and thats TheUnlockr.com...They have all the tutorials for rooting, etc with video links to make it a "nice transition". thats where i started...then come back here and get ya feet dirty
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normally i don't do this but i don't honestly think you have any idea what you 're talking about.
Sense was first run on 1.5 under the old hero framework last summer. The Droid Eris and Sprint Hero still haven't undergone OTA updates and are still running on 1.5 it was htc's decision to bypass 1.6 altogether.
So having said that, its possible if someone were to take the time to wade through HTC's garble and put it on a 1.6 OS, but why do that when eclair is out???
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i can see why u dont normally do it.. because u dont know what ur talking about... the htc tattoo is running sense ui on top of donut.. its the only phone that got it... so check your info before u accuse someone of not knowing what they are talking about..
heres some proof http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_tattoo-review-460.php notice where it says Android OS v1.6 (Sense UI) under specs....
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My friend your response was more than useful. Finally someone explain it like I was (which I am) a complete noob.
As for your strangeness on my inability to install a custom rom, well, let me put it this way, I don't understand half of the steps to get the phone rooted, the right spl, radio and so on... In fact, the only flaw I have to point to the xda-community is that most, if not all, simply assume that everyone knows the "technical" terms by heart, which is not true. And you my friend (allow me to call you that) just made me an huge favor, by putting it in very simple and plain terms.
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I can see your apprehension on rooting your phone, but you yourself said you did a lot of research on getting a sense APK for your unrooted phone. why not use some of the research time looking on this crazy website called google.com where you can search things like "how to root a MT3G 32B" upon doing so you will discover a WIDE selection of how to's, you also might find that they link you directly to videos on this other website called youtube.com that show you STEP by STEP how to root your phone. one might say its so easy a caveman could do it.
IMHO if you're too lazy to do any of these things, you probably shouldnt root your phone at all. people wouldnt flame you if didnt come off like an asshole in your first post.
ceas909 said:
i can see why u dont normally do it.. because u dont know what ur talking about... the htc tattoo is running sense ui on top of donut.. its the only phone that got it... so check your info before u accuse someone of not knowing what they are talking about..
hears some proof http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_tattoo-review-460.php notice where it says Android OS v1.6 (Sense UI) under specs....
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i didn't accuse you of anything shYtbrick...if tatoo is running sense ie 1.6 being greater than 1.5 then why make your first statement about it not being possible at all?
go play in traffic....
and btw, HERES some proof, not HEARS....F me
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i didn't accuse you of anything shYtbrick...if tatoo is running sense ie 1.6 being greater than 1.5 then why make your first statement about it not being possible at all?
go play in traffic....
and btw, HERES some proof, not HEARS....F me
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well if u looked at the op he was asking about getting the sense apk (rosie) and putting it in a 1.6 rom... and ur the dumb f*ck that stepped in with a pointless and idiotic response...idiotic because you didnt bother to search before saying i didnt know what i was talking about...
Tattoo is 1.6, but it's a WVGA device, G1 is a HVGA device then all object in Tattoo will be small than your G1 screen.
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Tattoo is 1.6, but it's a WVGA device, G1 is a HVGA device then all object in Tattoo will be small than your G1 screen.
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yea thats true.. but the rom that i was refering too had some framework edits still not perfect but its atleast good enough to try it out..
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well if u looked at the op he was asking about getting the sense apk (rosie) and putting it in a 1.6 rom... and ur the dumb f*ck that stepped in with a pointless and idiotic response...idiotic because you didnt bother to search before saying i didnt know what i was talking about...
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damned please don't reply because you keep getting worse..your inital quote,
"sense for 1.6... i dont think its possible... but there is a tattoo rom out there if u look for it in the g1/dream forum... that is 1.6 with sense ui"
Which is it shYtbrick? Sense IS or IS NOT POSSIBLE on 1.6?
You contradicted ya damn self
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normally i don't do this but i don't honestly think you have any idea what you 're talking about.
Sense was first run on 1.5 under the old hero framework last summer. The Droid Eris and Sprint Hero still haven't undergone OTA updates and are still running on 1.5 it was htc's decision to bypass 1.6 altogether.
So having said that, its possible if someone were to take the time to wade through HTC's garble and put it on a 1.6 OS, but why do that when eclair is out???
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no eugene made a tattoo 1.6 sense rom, but there was a MAJOR ISSUE WITH SCREEN SIZE. its fully functional, just everything is half as big...
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damned please don't reply because you keep getting worse..your inital quote,
"sense for 1.6... i dont think its possible... but there is a tattoo rom out there if u look for it in the g1/dream forum... that is 1.6 with sense ui"
Which is it shYtbrick? Sense IS or IS NOT POSSIBLE on 1.6?
You contradicted ya damn self
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ur an idiot.. the op wants to know if its possible to build a 1.6 rom and add sense to it... its not possible if not it would had already been done!... but htc did do it on the tattoo..and only works on the tattoo... there is a tattoo port out there for the mt3g/g1 but thats it.... yea my first post wasnt very clear.. but i was just letting the op know about the tattoo port incase he wanted to try it out...
now rebased off rvu 1.3.1 so that means 4g should be a go
I removed all HTC widgets and most HTC/sprint apps except for the needed ones people messages music etc. Plus a few I happen to like
Big thanks to Keith and gbhil over at Android central for an amazing Rom to base this off of
Also gotta thank toast maejrep and co. For root
Wipe is most likely needed haven't tried to flash yet without
and yes you will keep root if you flash this if you used toasts method haven't confirmed unrevoked
Changelog:
1.1 now based on rvu 1.3.1 com.HTC.utility no longer fcs
1.0 based of rvu 1.0 all HTC widgets/apps removed except for messages etc....
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/6316939/senseless-evo-v1.1.zip
http://www.4shared.com/file/kkuR1-0O/senseless-evo-v10.html
Looks great! I will load this later!
I highly recommend getting adw launcher it'd amazing
Does anyone know where com.HTC.rosieutility is located or what on here could still be causing it to fc on boot it doesn't affect the phone at all its just annoying seeing that every reboot
A couple of questions. Will you still be rooted if you flash this rom? Does it still have the market or 4G problems of other roms.
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A couple of questions. Will you still be rooted if you flash this rom? Does it still have the market or 4G problems of other roms.
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Yup you'll still be rooted with toasts method at least never touch the unrevoked root
I have no idea about 4g I would say probably not since I didn't change anything in that regard
I'll get back to u on the market
Aw, darn. I thought this was actually an AOSP ROM. This is basically already what I've done to my stock ROM.
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Aw, darn. I thought this was actually an AOSP ROM. This is basically already what I've done to my stock ROM.
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you will never get an aosp rom. 2.1 doesn't support wimax or the high video drivers. htc made the updates needed for those.
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Soo basically all I did was remove all HTC widgets and most
HTC apps from the newest Rom over on Android central by
Keith Newman so major thanks goes to him
Also gotta thank toast maejrep and co. For root ​
and finally I highly recommend wiping everything before you flash this...
and yes you will keep root if you flash this if you used toasts method haven't confirmed unrevoked​
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no homo but i love you OP. i've been waiting for this.
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Aw, darn. I thought this was actually an AOSP ROM. This is basically already what I've done to my stock ROM.
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Ya sry about that but to be honest I like the little HTC touches here and there it actually tends to complement vanilla more then you might realize
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Ya sry about that but to be honest I like the little HTC touches here and there it actually tends to complement vanilla more then you might realize
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by you saying this, does this mean some htc sense is still in this rom? i have a nexus one and i hate sense altogether, i'm looking for a rom that has no htc sense whatsoever.
p-slim said:
no homo but i love you OP. i've been waiting for this.
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WOW. almost 300 posts and you were WAITING for someone to rm a few apk's and then add one or 2? NO offense to you and i appreciate op just going thru the effort to share and ul, WE should all appreciate any contribution and if you have a problem with it just dont comment or use it. Just dont understand why you wouldnt just take 10 minutes and do it yourself. It takes ops longer cus hes also got wait for it to upload so he can share. This is not a crack and i am not a child. This is just my 2cents and what i thought while reading this comment.
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Ya sry about that but to be honest I like the little HTC touches here and there it actually tends to complement vanilla more then you might realize
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Good job. Thanks for the speedy contribution towards our shiny new evo rom collection I remember liking sense and aosp so i like both and i always wanted sense to run right. That was everyones complaint with sense. Well thats not an issue anymore. I thought i would be all on it, like with my hero w/o thinking.....well as soon as i got my evo i forgot all that i learned about root and why to do it....JK but i am very satisfied with it and i will wait until i can access recovery and rw to system from device before i do. I spent the whole time i had my hero trying to make it into a device like this.....well now i have it Gimme a week and i think ill go to work.......
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you will never get an aosp rom. 2.1 doesn't support wimax or the high video drivers. htc made the updates needed for those.
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Those two things I can live without. Some devs said there were going to port an AOSP 2.1 ROM, but they haven't posted updates.
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by you saying this, does this mean some htc sense is still in this rom? i have a nexus one and i hate sense altogether, i'm looking for a rom that has no htc sense whatsoever.
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This is just the stock ROM with Sprint apps, HTC widgets, and the Sense launcher removed. It is still loaded with Sense.
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Those two things I can live without. Some devs said there were going to port an AOSP 2.1 ROM, but they haven't posted updates.
This is just the stock ROM with Sprint apps, HTC widgets, and the Sense launcher removed. It is still loaded with Sense.
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nevermind, i thought htc sense was fully removed, not just a few apks
MagnusRagnarok said:
WOW. almost 300 posts and you were WAITING for someone to rm a few apk's and then add one or 2? NO offense to you and i appreciate op just going thru the effort to share and ul, WE should all appreciate any contribution and if you have a problem with it just dont comment or use it. Just dont understand why you wouldnt just take 10 minutes and do it yourself. It takes ops longer cus hes also got wait for it to upload so he can share. This is not a crack and i am not a child. This is just my 2cents and what i thought while reading this comment.
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as you can see i thougth sense was removed completely and if you think you can do that by just removing a few apks show me. also even if i had 1000 post, this could be my very 1st android phone and those 1000 posts wouldn't mean a damn thing, just my 2cents, if you don't have anything helpful to say, shut up.
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by you saying this, does this mean some htc sense is still in this rom? i have a nexus one and i hate sense altogether, i'm looking for a rom that has no htc sense whatsoever.
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Until we have fully functional aosp/froyo/2.2 you wont have a rom that will even work without a bunch of sense remnants wasting space on your internal storage and increasing rom size.HTC is a shiny ui htc used to lure in all the apple morons(no offense i used to have an iphone before my hero). and since they made the devices, they're plaguing software/htc sense is an integral part of the ruu they put together. This is the reason everyone always wants a non-sense rom or VANILLA. We will not have full function vanilla until toast or someone else here compiles an0ther makeshift kernel, or lastly when htc releases the source so that we can compile a kernel with the right device drivers, to give us a full function rom. It would be to say the least, very very very hard to just compile the right drivers for the htc device hardware, thus all the aosp/froyo with certain features such as cam, or 4G missing.......hope this helps you und3rstand what you are looking for a little bit more clearly. In theory, YOU or I could create the source code for the kernel and drivers. Is that going to HAPPEN?????????????????? Probably not. Dont worry though, we have toast, so we happen to have a head start in the race.....
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Until we have fully functional aosp/froyo/2.2 you wont have a rom that will even work without a bunch of sense remnants wasting space on your internal storage and increasing rom size.HTC is a shiny ui htc used to lure in all the apple morons(no offense i used to have an iphone before my hero). and since they made the devices, they're plaguing software/htc sense is an integral part of the ruu they put together. This is the reason everyone always wants a non-sense rom or VANILLA. We will not have full function vanilla until toast or someone else here compiles an0ther makeshift kernel, or lastly when htc releases the source so that we can compile a kernel with the right device drivers, to give us a full function rom. It would be to say the least, very very very hard to just compile the right drivers for the htc device hardware, thus all the aosp/froyo with certain features such as cam, or 4G missing.......hope this helps you und3rstand what you are looking for a little bit more clearly. In theory, YOU or I could create the source code for the kernel and drivers. Is that going to HAPPEN?????????????????? Probably not. Dont worry though, we have toast, so we happen to have a head start in the race.....
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Could you PLEASE not use that font color? With sugar on top?
Rosies gone and most of the apps that where randomly coming on and wasting mem/batt. Are gone this is all I'm worried and it runs nice as **** I mean has anybody that had something bad to say even try it
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as you can see i thougth sense was removed completely and if you think you can do that by just removing a few apks show me. also even if i had 1000 post, this could be my very 1st android phone and those 1000 posts wouldn't mean a damn thing, just my 2cents, if you don't have anything helpful to say, shut up.
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search my name in xda search youll find PLENTY of inter3sting things ive said. Do your own homework before instulting me or anyone else please.I meant neither of you any disrespect. I was explaining myself a little better and when i put up the 2nd post i saw this. This is an open forum right? well thats my opinion and some info. If you dl'd the rom you would see all the sense remnants yourself, resulting in less thread clutter,simultaneously answering your own question. I was trying to inform you in my second post. And please do not disrespect me by asking me to shut up. I do not disrespect anyone here on xda nor will i ever, and i expect the same treatment in return. I am here to help,learn,and contribute. Sorry you took offense. I guess i just dont ask others for answers that are readily available to myself. I would apologize but you offended me. please do not reply here again, as your response will be ignored by me. apologies to readers for momentary thread jack.......now, back to topic.....
bcnice20 said:
Rosies gone and most of the apps that where randomly coming on and wasting mem/batt. Are gone this is all I'm worried and it runs nice as **** I mean has anybody that had something bad to say even try it
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I noticed what you did when i looked. Just wondering, were you unhappy with your evo when you got it? or did you just make a new rom to give everyone another choice of rom? or maybe even your personal, like i do sometimes? Just curious.....
@ops. I never spoke ill of your work, jic you took it that way, im not that guy. I appreciate any contributions to the community and have spent months of my own time staying up finishing up things ive been working to complete my self in order to ul and share with the community. Needless to say, I KNOW WHERE YOURE COMING FROM. When i can give us a new choice of rom or theme i too will begin work.....
This thread is in Development because I mean to share a development idea that I had with the devs here. I don't have the knowledge or skill to work this out myself, so I'm hoping to start a discussion among devs who can do something with it.
Right. At the moment, Sense 2.1/3.0 hybrid ROMs are all using the Sense 3.0 lockscreen - but it's still an old version of that lockscreen, ported in the early days of the HTC Sensation (by seo if I'm correct). Resizing for the lower resolution on the Desire was necessary, and you can see that clearly on the lockscreen - icons and text appear slightly "squashed", and performance is slightly choppy as well.
However, on full Sense 3.5 ROMs ported from the HTC Runnymede, the lockscreen is graphically flawless, and it's lagfree as well, probably largely due to the fact that no resizing is involved. It's just a much better lockscreen than the Sense 3.0 one found in Sense 2.1/3.0 hybrids.
My question/idea is: could this properly sized Sense 3.5 lockscreen be ported from Bliss or Runnymede ROMs to work in Sense 2.1 ROMs?
I'm hoping for this to be a place for devs to discuss and hopefully work out this idea. Mods, if you still think this is in the wrong place, feel free to move.
Thanks in advance!
Question is whose ROM for Base?
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rzgomba said:
Question is whose ROM for Base?
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I suggest Rsk or Seb's ROM
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Both of which are based on Runnymede RUUs. Keep in mind that the question is to port the lockscreen from Sense 3.5, not from a single specific Sense 3.5 ROM - so the base will come from HTC, not from any custom ROM developer here.
In other words, this question is pretty much irrelevant.
Bump. I'm hoping at least one of the few developers still left here could look into this.
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Bump. I'm hoping at least one of the few developers still left here could look into this.
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Might have a go if you want. Something different. Not for a couple of days though. Sense isn't my thing but smali /apktool is. I'll pm when I can.
lenny_kano said:
Might have a go if you want. Something different. Not for a couple of days though. Sense isn't my thing but smali /apktool is. I'll pm when I can.
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Many thanks, man! Looking forward to it.
I was hoping we could do most of our communication in this thread, though. That way, other devs could chip in wherever help may be needed. And that could be welcome, if Sense really isn't your thing
Hoping to see as much dev input as possible here, and it seems we're off to a great start. Thanks again!
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Many thanks, man! Looking forward to it.
I was hoping we could do most of our communication in this thread, though. That way, other devs could chip in wherever help may be needed. And that could be welcome, if Sense really isn't your thing
Hoping to see as much dev input as possible here, and it seems we're off to a great start. Thanks again!
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Ok no probs. I have enough pms for porting and mods, a thread would be a good change
No promises, but ill do my best to have it done this weekend. It's not that I'm anti-sense, but I've always been on my miui builds (for at least 8 of the 11 months I've owned an android phone). Fingers crossed .
Which 2.1+3.0 Rom do you use at the moment? I already have a few 3.5 zips so can get the lockscreen easy enough, just need to know which Rom to use when doing the porting /testing? (and so I can see what you mean about the visual problems.)
Still won't know how big a task it is until I look tomorrow.
His signature says he is using the Alex-V's ROM.
I haven't tried Alex-V 1.8 ROM yet, but i use InsertCoin for years now. I'd love to see it in InsertCoin 1.1.4 as well. I'll stay tuned.
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Which 2.1+3.0 Rom do you use at the moment? I already have a few 3.5 zips so can get the lockscreen easy enough, just need to know which Rom to use when doing the porting /testing? (and so I can see what you mean about the visual problems.)
Still won't know how big a task it is until I look tomorrow.
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I'm on Alex-V 1.8 for cm7r2 now, the link is in my sig. I don't think there's much of a difference with other 2.1/3.0 ROMs (like InsertCoin), if any difference at all - as far as the lockscreen goes, that is. They all use different implementations of a2sd (standard, data++, ad2sdx, even int2sd), which probably needs looking into.
And take your time. It's already immensely appreciated that you're willing to look into it in the first place.
This looks like a very interesting project. To be honest though, I don't think a hacked up version of the ring lockscreen will go any faster on sense 2.1 roms.
If you check out any pure Sense 3 port you will see that the lockscreen is way smoother than any 2.1/3.0 hybrid or even a 3.5 rom, even with all the resizing.
In my opinion it all comes down to framework changes between sense versions.
But anyway, I guess a good starting point would be a smali by smali compare between an original sense3 htclockscreen.apk and one from the hybrid roms to roughly see what needs changing. Then you could try to apply the same modifications in the 3.5 lockscreen apk.
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This looks like a very interesting project. To be honest though, I don't think a hacked up version of the ring lockscreen will go any faster on sense 2.1 roms.
If you check out any pure Sense 3 port you will see that the lockscreen is way smoother than any 2.1/3.0 hybrid or even a 3.5 rom, even with all the resizing.
In my opinion it all comes down to framework changes between sense versions.
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Possibly, but in any case we'd still lose the graphical imperfections of the old, resized Sense 3.0 lockscreen. In Sense 3.5, the ring is a lot bigger too - it sticks out further from the bottom, making it easier to grab and unlock. Even just graphically, it's better than the current lockscreen.
Also, nobody's ever tried this, so we'd never know if it'll be faster.
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But anyway, I guess a good starting point would be a smali by smali compare between an original sense3 htclockscreen.apk and one from the hybrid roms to roughly see what needs changing. Then you could try to apply the same modifications in the 3.5 lockscreen apk.
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I concur. Thanks for your input!
Trust me, I know what needs doing
How hard it is to do is the question, porting apks between frameworks is fairly simple unless they are massively different and the apk is hugely dependent on it.
I had miui v4 themes working on evervolv by hand porting the code, and ported apks between frameworks before so have a fair idea what needs doing .
This thread will turn out to be highly educational then. Nice
Just fyi, due to a couple of things taking longer than I thought yesterday, will most likely get around to looking at this on Wednesday. I'll post when I have anything useful.
Alright. No worries, I've got plenty of revision to kill time until then.
Is there a way to "install" Sense 3.0 lockscreen on Sense 1.9 (stock HTC gingerbread for Desire)?
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Is there a way to "install" Sense 3.0 lockscreen on Sense 1.9 (stock HTC gingerbread for Desire)?
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Not without modifying it, and no, I have no plans to look at anything else sense related, sorry.
Please stay on topic.
Been trying to get Alex-Vs rom since yesterday, and download is stuck at 98% and has been disconnecting constantly. PITA and I'm tired so hopefully it'll finish tomorrow and I can have a look.